[04:13] <Mirv> shadeslayer: not sure, the only benefit would be not having Qt5 libraries on a system so it's not a very big win. the Qt5 compiled Creator can be used to develop for both Qt4 & Qt5, but the Qt4 compiled version can only be fully used for Qt4. so it could also create a false impression that one needs qtcreator-qt4 for Qt4 development.
[04:15] <ScottK> Mirv: I think the majority of users will not care about Qt5 yet.  It's a lot to add a whole new Qt.
[04:24] <Mirv> well yes, depending on the perspective it may feel a lot extra to download as well
[04:37] <ScottK> There ought to be a way to only require the Qt you want.
[10:43] <dholbach> hiya
[10:44] <dholbach> does anyone have an idea about bug 1131636?
[10:44] <Riddell> hi dholbach 
[10:44] <dholbach> hey Riddell
[10:44] <dholbach> I'm asking because bug 1155327 (which is in the sponsoring queue) has a workaround for it - not sure how to go about this
[10:45] <Riddell> presumably a bit of binary incompatibility that slipped through somehow
[10:46] <Riddell> dholbach: you said there was a fix somewhere?
[10:46] <Riddell> that package is quite messy, there's not even any .symbols files :(
[10:47] <dholbach> Riddell, no, it was a workaround for the skype package
[11:04] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes
[11:04] <Riddell> apachelogger: yes which?
[11:05] <apachelogger> yes libs needs patching to pick up patched-l10n
[11:06] <Riddell> okay dokay
[11:06] <dholbach> Riddell, so is the workaround something you'd upload? or does skype need to make a new release? or will qtwebkit need a symbol file?
[11:07] <Riddell> dholbach: maybe all three, I need to look into it more
[11:07] <dholbach> ok, thanks
[11:24] <BluesKaj> "Morning all
[11:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[12:34] <Riddell> ooh new kscreen released
[12:34] <Riddell> !newversion kscreen 0.1-rc1
[12:34] <Riddell> kubotu: newversion kscreen 0.1-rc1
[12:35] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1163288
[12:57] <Riddell> hi skaet 
[12:57] <skaet> hiya RIddell.  :)  
[13:06] <Riddell> hi smartboyhw 
[13:06] <smartboyhw> Hi I'm back from Hangzhou!
[13:06] <Riddell> what did you see there?
[13:06] <jussi> bah
[13:06] <jussi> silly machine always running out of space on /boot
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Lake view of Xihu:)
[13:07] <Riddell> jussi: you keep a separate partition?
[13:07] <jussi> I wish there was a nicer way of dealing with /boot is full than dpkg just failing...
[13:07] <jussi> Riddell: I guess so - I have an encrypted system with the defaults...
[13:08] <Riddell> ln -s /usr/boot /boot
[13:08] <Riddell> (don't, might mess up grub)
[13:08] <jussi> heh
[13:08] <jussi> careful what you say :D
[13:36] <murthy> hello everyone
[13:36] <Riddell> hi murthy 
[13:52] <murthy> yofel: pm?
[14:04] <Riddell> hmm, pykde seems broken
[14:04] <Riddell> rdieter: it is compiling over at fedora?
[14:05] <rdieter> Riddell: I had to revert a #$#$?@# commit to make it work with python3 (and non-default sip dir)
[14:05] <rdieter> more silly "for install into user-prefix, instead of the right place" nonsense. :-/
[14:06] <rdieter> Riddell: see https://reviewboard.kde.org/r/101903
[14:06] <Riddell> rdieter: hmm I'm getting a compile failure on qsyntaxhighlighter.h http://paste.kde.org/714332/
[14:07] <rdieter> oh, that I didn't see
[14:46] <Riddell> phew kde-workspace is a beast
[14:49] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:50] <Riddell> smartboyhw: plenty of 4.10.2 or kscreen packaging to be fun if you're at a lose end :)
[14:50] <smartboyhw> I'm not at my computer
[14:50] <smartboyhw> So no
[14:51] <Riddell> you must have a psychic connection to the internet :)
[14:51] <smartboyhw> LOL
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Home wifi
[14:51] <smartboyhw> I use home wifi for both notebook and phone
[14:58] <murthy> i have logged inside the pbuilder, how can i find the architecture?
[14:59] <smartboyhw> murthy; You did specify the arch when setting up pbuilder-dist right?
[15:00] <Riddell> ldd /bin/ls  will let you know if it's 32 or 64 bit
[15:00] <murthy> smartboyhw: ya i did, just want to confirm that
[15:01] <murthy> Riddell: is shows x86_64, i need to arm
[15:01] <smartboyhw> arch ?
[15:02] <murthy> i ran this "sudo DIST=raring ARCH=arm pbuilder --create
[15:02] <murthy> "
[15:03] <Riddell> murthy: umm an arm chroot won't work on a PC
[15:03] <Riddell> "arm" isn't an arch, "armhf" is
[15:03] <Riddell> murthy: scottk has some arm machines available for use, but it might be restricted to ubuntu members only
[15:04] <murthy> Riddell: so how can i build a package for arm arch using pbuilder?
[15:04] <smartboyhw> murthy: Get Kubuntu membership;)
[15:04] <Riddell> murthy: you can't on your PC
[15:04] <murthy> Riddell: can you reassign nootka patch work to someone else?
[15:05] <smartboyhw> murthy even I can:-P
[15:05] <murthy> smartboyhw: soon :)
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Yay;)
[15:06] <smartboyhw> murthy: Do kscreen 1.0~rc1 upgrade packaging theb:)
[15:06] <smartboyhw> s/theb/then/
[15:06] <kubotu> smartboyhw meant: "murthy: Do kscreen 1.0~rc1 upgrade packaging then:)"
[15:06] <murthy> smartboyhw: I completed the copyright of nootka and then ended in a small bug, which i can fix in time, but can't test it, it is leaving me blind
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Riddell: Don't you have an ARM machine? I thought you did.
[15:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: I have a pandaboard but it's not running just now and I'm not at home
[15:08] <Riddell> smartboyhw: ScottK does have some
[15:10] <Riddell> playing with them now to check they still work
[15:12] <smartboyhw> Ok
[15:12] <murthy> Riddell: in the last patch i just replaced the fns qmax(A,B) and qmin(A,B) with qmax(qreal(A),B) and qmin(qreal(A),B). But actually its wrong, i have to do that only to a selective one, it feels silly to say this to a software guru 
[15:13] <murthy> Riddell: you won't mind be telling to you right?
[15:13] <Riddell> murthy: cast mechanisms in c++ are something nobody understands
[15:15] <murthy> Riddell: no i mean you must be knowing this already  and you wont get offended when i say this stuff to you right? you have a lot of programming experience and i am just a noob
[15:16] <Riddell> murthy: heck I reviewed your patch and didn't see it as a problem so I'm just as at fault :)
[15:17] <Riddell> murthy: /msg
[15:21] <murthy> smartboyhw: i am in wonderland :)
[15:25] <smartboyhw> murthy: LOL
[15:50] <murthy> Riddell: I am getting this error for apt-get source  . "E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list", i tried after uncommenting the deb-src in sources.list, didn't work
[15:52] <maco> murthy: did you apt-get update after uncommenting them?
[15:52] <murthy> maco: didn't try that, let me check
[15:53] <maco> always apt-get update after editing sources.list
[15:53] <murthy> ya, sorry for the silly mistake
[15:55] <murthy> maco: that solved, thanks
[16:24] <Quintasan> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=313479
[16:24] <Quintasan> what the fuck
[16:25] <Quintasan> >Can we schedule that for 5.0
[16:28] <Quintasan> lololololol
[16:30] <Quintasan> If this is a feature then what the hell
[16:30] <Quintasan> We migh ship everything written in Python then
[16:42] <Tm_T> maco hi, long time no tsatsa
[16:49] <maco> Tm_T: hi
[16:54] <murthy> Riddell: I am having trouble setting up the base environment, and also while meddling exited the screen, shall i try  this tomorrow ?
[17:04] <Mamarok> folpjs, there might be a dependency problem for people trying to install amarok 2.7 on 12.04: http://paste.kde.org/714458/
[17:04] <Mamarok> folks*
[19:31] <soee> hiho, i see 4.10.2 almost here :)
[19:49] <yofel> Riddell, murthy_: I uploaded kscreen rc1 (i.e. 0.0.81) a few days ago already
[20:23] <yofel> Mamarok: looking, in precise it does indeed not depend on kde-runtime (for whatever reason)
[21:44] <Riddell> yofel: you're ahead of us :)
[21:44] <yofel> well, scott was ahead of me ^^
[21:55] <yofel> on the other hand, I would appreciate it if someone could update tomahawk to 0.6.1. I already filed a bug, but have no time till sunday
[21:56] <yofel> murthy_ ^
[22:08] <Riddell> yofel: ssh don't distract murthy from nootka first :)
[22:10] <yofel> oops
[22:43] <Riddell> kde-workspace uploaded, someone might have to retry the various things that build-dep on that when it's running