[02:53] <plunger> Hello
[02:56] <plunger> Can anyone give me some quick help? I been searching all day... I removed LXDE and installed kubuntu-desktop and kde-full, when I log on and I click my menu it just shows a couple pre-selected favorites but none of my applications
[02:56] <plunger> I could likely add them manually, but there are so many.. D:
[02:58] <cole> What in the ever loving shit do I have to do to change my local timezone?
[02:58] <cole> No matter what I do, it displays the digital clock as being 3AM even though it's 8PM
[02:59] <cole> I've changed it in system settings, I've overridden it in the clock itself
[02:59] <cole> every time, it resyncs with NTP and has the wrong time
[02:59] <plunger> have you pressed the full retard button?
[02:59] <plunger> you might want to unclick it
[02:59] <cole> I'm mashing the damn fullretard button and it isn't helping, unfortunately.
[02:59] <cole>  /etc/timezone is correct too
[03:00] <plunger> well I think the problem is you clicked it too hard first
[03:00] <plunger> now you are so retarded that you cant click it again
[03:00] <plunger> death is the only option now
[03:00] <cole> "Current local time is set to America/Los Angeles (PDT)"
[03:00] <cole> Current time is: 3AM.
[03:00] <cole> Eeeennngh. Wrong.
[03:01] <plunger> lol
[03:01] <plunger> giving out your area
[03:01] <cole> actually since I left Konversation on it's defaults I'm giving away far more than that
[03:01] <cole> and I'm not in LA anyway.
[03:01] <cole> Just pissed off that everytime I look at this damn clock it's wrong
[03:02] <PWC> Is your hardware clock right?
[03:03] <cole> as far as I know/
[03:03] <PWC> Check your CMOS.
[03:03] <cole> I'm on a mac
[03:04] <cole> sadly
[03:04] <cole> I've never had this issue until I moved timezones.
[03:04] <plunger> well there is your problem
[03:04] <plunger> get a PC
[03:04] <cole> when they have one with magsafe, I will
[03:05] <plunger> I'm going to play some crysis 3 on my computer soon
[03:05] <plunger> because its not a stupid mac
[03:06] <cole>  /etc/localtime is right too
[03:06] <cole> cool story bro
[03:06] <plunger> j/k I like unix-based operating systems.. I use FreeBSD mostly
[03:20] <blondet> good evng
[03:53] <cjae_> how come i cannot browse /var/mobile on a ipad under kubuntu?
[03:53] <cjae_> but if I plug it into a gnome based box then I can
[03:58] <plunger>  Can anyone give me some quick help? I been searching all day... I removed LXDE and installed kubuntu-desktop and kde-full, when I log on and I click my menu it just shows a couple pre-selected favorites but none of my applications
[04:19] <Programmer_> how do i enable the window preview?
[07:24] <pierre___> Hello guys. I am facing issues with connecting external displays.  I connect a display and KDE asks me to configure it. i configure that display to be on the'left' of the existing one, set resolution etc.
[07:24] <pierre___> it works fine.
[07:25] <pierre___> but when i unplug the display, KDE doesn't go back to the earlier mode - i probably needs to 'bring back' the windows from the disconnected display and group it here
[07:25] <pierre___> it again asks me to configure thenew dsiplay arraagmenet, and even if i do it, the windows still are geometrically in the left corner
[07:26] <pierre___> i am forced to click on the app in the taskbar, do a 'move' and drag itback
[10:29] <sitarama> salve
[10:34] <sitarama> sto seguendo una procedura per linux ubuntu per scaricare dei video da youtube, come si può fare?
[10:34] <sitarama> qualcuno mi può aiutare?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> "Morning all
[11:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[13:36] <murthy> hello everyone
[13:36]  * genii-around slides murthy a coffee and doughnut
[13:36] <murthy> genii-around: hi
[13:37] <bradlee> murthy hello someone's actually alive on this channel
[13:38] <bradlee> genii-around hello
[13:38] <lordievader> bradlee: Lot's of idlers feed on activity ;)
[13:38]  * genii-around slides bradlee a coffee also, with a bagel
[13:38] <murthy> bradlee: :)
[13:38] <bradlee> murthy hello
[13:39] <bradlee> genii-around, I take the coffee and bagel careful not to let it slide all the way off the table and crash to the floor
[13:41] <murthy> BluesKaj: hi
[13:42] <BluesKaj> hi murthy
[13:47] <bradlee> why when I run jockey-kde it says my video driver is activated but not currently in use
[13:48] <murthy> bradlee: do you have a graphics card?
[13:49] <bradlee> yes
[13:50] <bradlee> geforce 9600 gt
[13:53] <bradlee> murthy: yes geforce 9600 gt
[13:53] <murthy> bradlee: have you disabled the onboard gpu?
[13:54] <bradlee> murthy: how would I know I don't think so but not sure
[13:54] <bradlee> murthy: should I google that maybe?
[13:54] <murthy> bradlee: no, we will see
[13:54] <genii-around> bradlee: Does lsmod  show the nvidia driver is actually loaded?
[13:55] <bradlee> yes
[13:55] <bradlee> murthy: yes lsmod | grep nvidia
[13:55] <murthy> bradlee: did you install drivers from the nvidia website?
[13:55] <bradlee> murthy: no I installed them from "current drivers"
[13:56] <murthy> bradlee: can you open nvidia-settings?
[13:57] <murthy> bradlee: just run nvidia-settings from terminal and see, if it says the driver is not loaded then we will try something
[13:57] <genii-around> I wonder if xorg.conf has  Driver  "nvidia" in it
[13:58] <bradlee> murthy: yes I can run nvidia-settings
[13:58] <murthy> genii-around: I am thinking the same
[13:58] <murthy> bradlee: can you see all the nvidia settings
[13:59] <bradlee> murthy: I see the x server information page
[14:00] <murthy> bradlee: in that case run this command "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart the system and see if that solves the problem
[14:00] <bradlee> murthy: okay
[14:00] <bradlee> murthy: do you use konversation for this what we are doing now?
[14:01] <bradlee> murthy: afk restarting computer
[14:02] <murthy> bradlee: ok
[14:15] <genii-around> murthy: I wonder if bradlee not being back yet is a good or bad thing
[14:15] <murthy> genii-around:  ha ha ha
[14:15] <murthy> sorry
[14:15] <lordievader> With video-cards that ^ is usually a bad sign...
[14:16] <murthy> nice he is back
[14:16] <bradlee> murthy: I am back
[14:17] <murthy> ya we were wondering if you got stuck
[14:17] <bradlee> nope, thanks
[14:18] <murthy> bradlee: did it work>
[14:18] <bradlee> murthy: driver activated but not currently in use.
[14:18] <bradlee> murthy: I don't think so
[14:19] <murthy> bradlee: can you paste this file "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"  ?
[14:19] <murthy> bradlee: use paste.kde.org
[14:19] <bradlee> murthy: okay...
[14:19] <murthy> I keep getting two notifications for any alert, is this a known issue?
[14:22] <bradlee> murthy: http://paste.kde.org/714338/
[14:22] <murthy> bradlee: checking
[14:31] <murthy> bradlee: from the logs the driver seems to be loaded
[14:31] <murthy> bradlee: *log
[14:31] <bradlee> murthy: yes
[14:31] <bradlee> murthy:is it active or maybe it does not matter
[14:32] <murthy> bradlee: when the nvidia-settings opens then it means the driver is active
[14:32] <bradlee> murthy:jockey-kde says it is activated but not in use...okay...so jockey-kde is confusing me
[14:32] <murthy> bradlee: if the driver is not active then nvidia-settings will complain
[14:32] <murthy> bradlee: we will test that now, wait
[14:33] <lordievader> bradlee: I've heard that the jockey is sometimes wrong with these things.
[14:33] <bradlee> lordievader:understood thanks
[14:34] <BluesKaj> murthy:  jockey can't be trusted , there are some bugs , it doesn't remove old modules
[14:35] <murthy> BluesKaj: oh
[14:35] <BluesKaj> best to use the package manbager as a reference and use it or apt-get to install the driver(s)
[14:35] <genii-around> I find it interesting it is trying to use EDID information from the CRT
[14:37] <murthy> bradlee: try running some thing that uses the gpu and see if it works, for example you could test with the hardware accleration in flash videos
[14:38] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you using the 310 driver?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> murthy: I was but I just installed the 313 from xorg.edgers , was assured by the guys at #ubuntu+1 that it would run fine with my 8400gs
[14:40] <bradlee> murthy: trying to figure out how to do flash videos with hardware acceleration
[14:41] <bradlee> okay
[14:41] <murthy> bradlee: hardware acceleration is enabled by default as far as i know and all you have to so is play some youtube video with 720p or more and  right click the video and see video info
[14:42] <murthy> BluesKaj: is it stable?
[14:42] <bradlee> murthy: I right clicked on a video on youtube and settings says enable hardware accelaration it's checked :)
[14:42] <BluesKaj> seems fine so far the gpu temp even dropped by 5C
[14:42] <BluesKaj> murthy: ^
[14:43] <murthy> bradlee: ya, its enabled by default, now play a video in 720p or more and right click the video and now select video info
[14:43] <murthy> BluesKaj: seriously? wow
[14:43] <bradlee> murthy:I need to find a video recorded in that resolution on youtube
[14:43] <genii-around> If everyone looks like The Hulk you might have to disable video acceleration
[14:44] <murthy> ha ha ha
[14:44] <murthy> genii-around: thats a known issue :(
[14:44] <murthy> BluesKaj: are you using in your regular system?
[14:44] <murthy> BluesKaj: i mean the driver?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> 13.04 atm'
[14:45] <BluesKaj> yes , 12.10 is gone , 13.04 is my main OS , murthy
[14:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: you i have to do that, i think i will upgrade tonight. the driver's improvement is tempting
[14:47] <murthy> bradlee: have you found a video ?
[14:47] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I always keep the last LTS on another partittion *just in case* .... :)
[14:47] <bradlee> murthy: yes
[14:48] <BluesKaj> murthy:  well actually the 310 driver was really quite good as well
[14:48] <bradlee> murthy: right clicked and got info
[14:48] <murthy> BluesKaj: ya using 310.40 now
[14:49] <bradlee> murthy: yes
[14:49] <bradlee> murthy:even captured it as a photo
[14:50] <bradlee> murthy:i tried using ksnapshot to upload it to picasa...did not work...not sure why...
[14:50] <murthy> bradlee: use imagebin
[14:50] <murthy> bradlee: http://imagebin.org/
[14:50] <bradlee> murthy:imagebin...okay...I am learning so much...thank you very much I am serious
[14:51] <murthy> bradlee: you are always welcome, if we are not active here, catch us at #kubuntu-offtopic
[14:53] <bradlee> http://imagebin.org/252531
[14:53] <bradlee> murthy:thanks again
[14:53] <murthy> genii-around: I always keep an unstable version as an option :)
[14:54] <murthy> bradlee: you are welcome
[14:55] <murthy> what scares me during an upgrade is always the boot ending up in the tty due to the nvidia driver, thats not happening anymore
[14:58] <BluesKaj> murthy: the nvidia upgrade shouldn't be done with jockey , do it with the package manager if you have to . or even apt-get
[14:59] <murthy> BluesKaj: ya, like you said jockey can't  be trusted
[15:00] <BluesKaj> murthy:  good
[15:00] <genii-around> I like apt-get, at least you get some informative messages if everything goes wonky
[15:01] <BluesKaj> murthy:  I'm not real enthusiastic about the 313 driver tho , it's herky jerky in glxgears where the 310 driver was nice a\nd smooth
[15:02] <BluesKaj> think I'm going to revert back to the 310
[15:04] <bradlee> murthy:the capture says software rendering, is this what its supposed to say?
[15:04] <bradlee> afk for a while
[15:09] <murthy> bradlee: when you right click a video you will see a an option "show video info" a embedded dialog should  show  "accelerated video rendering"
[15:16] <bradlee> murthy:the image does not show that
[15:16] <bradlee> murthy:it shows software video rendering
[15:17] <murthy> bradlee: then something is wrong with the driver i guess
[15:18] <bradlee> murthy:so should I use synaptic to install a different version...
[15:25] <murthy> bradlee: try reinstalling the driver using a package manager
[15:27] <bradlee> muon nvidia-current reinstall is ghosted...
[15:29] <bradlee> murthy:maybe try snaptic muon nvidia-current reinstall is ghosted
[15:30] <murthy> bradlee: try running this command "sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current"
[15:30] <HorusHorrendus> hey guys ... I don't find a way to set my screen resoltuion in raring :)
[15:33] <bradlee> murthy: when I click on one of the icons in my system tray, I expect a menu, but nothing...
[15:33] <murthy> HorusHorrendus: not in system settings -> display and monitor?
[15:33] <bradlee> murthy:it takes a few seconds just to show a menu...
[15:34] <HorusHorrendus> murthy: nope there is only screen saver & gamma
[15:34] <murthy> bradlee: check if some packages are missing, you can do that with this command "apt-get install -f"
[15:35] <murthy> HorusHorrendus: what is your kubuntu version?
[15:35] <HorusHorrendus> murthy: raring ... 13.04
[15:36] <HorusHorrendus> (just updated today to try it out)
[15:36] <bradlee> murthy:results of reinstall are at http://paste.kde.org/714404/
[15:36] <Pici> HorusHorrendus :Raring/13.04 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[15:37] <murthy> bradlee: checking
[15:37] <HorusHorrendus> Pici: yeah I know ... just thought maybe some Devs/Beta Users are here who know something ;)
[15:37] <HorusHorrendus> is there only
[15:38] <HorusHorrendus> #ubuntu+1 ... no
[15:38] <HorusHorrendus> #kubuntu+1 ;)
[15:38] <Pici> HorusHorrendus: Its the same.
[15:38] <HorusHorrendus> (wow do I have problems typing atm ;) )
[15:38] <Pici> We don't have separate channels for each flavor for +1
[15:39] <murthy> bradlee: you have to restart and see if it works
[15:40] <bradlee> murthy:afk restarting computer...
[15:43] <HorusHorrendus> ahh already fixed it ... kscreen is the name and somehow it was not under the expected place
[15:45] <BluesKaj> yup murthy , the 310 driver is much smoother then the 313 , the 313 still needs refinement IMO
[15:45] <BluesKaj> than the 313
[15:46] <BluesKaj> and the nvidia site doesn't recommend the 313 for my card yet
[15:46] <murthy> BluesKaj: oh, so should i hold on to 310 for now?
[15:46] <murthy> HorusHorrendus: nice
[15:47] <BluesKaj> murthy: yes I think so unless your card is more capable than my 8400gs
[15:47] <murthy> BluesKaj: we have a unified driver remember?
[15:48] <BluesKaj> unified as adriver but some applications run better on some cards than others even with the same driver
[15:51] <bradlee> murthy: I think this worked because now the info on a 720p shows accelerated video rendering
[15:56] <murthy> bradlee: thats cool
[15:57] <murthy> BluesKaj: phoronix ? :)
[15:58] <BluesKaj> murthy:  no ,the 313 is an xorg-edgers offering via their ppa
[15:59] <bradlee> murthy:My eyesight is not so good...so I have the default font at ubuntu/bold/16 and device notifier menu is garbled
[15:59] <bradlee> should I submit this issue to launchpad?
[16:00] <murthy> bradlee: sure if you feel you want to report
[16:01] <murthy> BluesKaj: i mean the nvidia driver benchmarks for various apps
[16:05] <BluesKaj> murthy:  bechmarks for apps and drivers ? never considered such a comparison since benchmarks to me always meant hardware testing not software
[16:06] <BluesKaj> using std software as control
[16:40] <tolpico> Hi, I have installed kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 12.10. How do I log into Kubuntu? I  restarted but there is no option to switch to kubuntu at the login screen.
[16:41] <genii-around> tolpico: Did you restart since this?
[16:41] <tolpico> genii-around: yes I did
[16:42] <genii-around> tolpico: Very odd. Is it still using the login scren from regular Ubuntu? May want to install lightdm-kde-greeter instead
[16:43] <tolpico> I only installed the package "kubuntu-desktop". Is there any other package which needs to be installed?
[16:43] <tolpico> ok I iwll try kightdm
[16:43] <tolpico> Yes it is still using the regular ubuntu login screen
[16:44] <tolpico> lightdm-kde-greeter is already the newest version.
[16:46] <tolpico> genii-around: Hey sorry, got it, we have to click the little ubuntu logo which brings in the desktop env switcher.
[16:47] <genii-around> Ah, good
[17:16] <spillo> hola
[17:16] <spillo> we
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !plop
[20:43] <genii-around> !fizz
[20:48] <BluesKaj> genii-around:  :)
[22:14] <kubuntu> Hi ?
[22:14] <Guest56039> Hi ?
[22:15] <rsaw> hello
[22:17] <Guest56039> uh ... trying to install (kubuntu 13.04 b1) ... installer doing nothing after "install this third-party... " ( clicked "continue" ) nothing happen since 15 minutes ... no disk activity, cpu activities ... Thus the Instasller is SCREWED UP ... uninstallable -- I would understand if I downloaded an alpha test - but beta means: testing last addition + bug fixes ...
[22:17] <Guest56039> "testing last"  -- no rather testing FINAL IMAGES/PACKAGES ...
[22:25] <rsaw> hmm he left. bummer.
[22:26] <rsaw> I don't know why newbies want to run betas/non-lts.
[22:48] <rosco_y> I"m new enough that I still consider myself to be a newbie:  I installed the non-lts version first, because someone someone said "it should work for you."  I thought it'd be nice to have the latest bells and whistles....
[22:49] <rosco_y> but it wasn't incredibily stable, (to put it mildly), so I switched to lts, and my system has been rock-solid ever since.  I'm hooked on lts
[22:52] <genii-around> The default upgrade path of LTS straight to next LTS should be the recommended path for new users
[22:55] <rsaw> genii-around: I've see LTS to LTSD upgrades bork many a box. Better to unmount /home, nuke and pavve, do a clean install and then remount /home, imho.
[22:55] <rosco_y> I agree.  It'd be a service to most new users....
[22:55] <rsaw> minus D
[22:56] <rsaw> Just have to make sure /home is on a seperate drive/parition.
[22:56] <rosco_y> I'm so pleased with my solid computer new, I don't know if I'll ever mess around with the latest and greatest anymore.....
[22:56] <rosco_y> it's just so nice to have computer that "just works"
[22:57] <genii-around> I've tried to share /home between different LTS/non-LTS and it never did anything except get pretty borked
[22:57] <genii-around> I have separate partitions for that now
[22:57] <rsaw> rosco_y: I suggest running an stable LTS version on your PC, and then if you want to play with the latest versions, do so in VirtualBox, as a VM.
[22:57] <rsaw> Once you install it as a VM, make a default snapshot to rollback to if the VM gets borked up.
[22:58] <rsaw> genii-around: that way works too.
[22:58] <rosco_y> rsaw: I've concidered that, but I have everything I need in LTS, and no need to experiment.  Although I have spent a few hours toying with the idea of setting up gentoo in a vm, as a "learning unix" exercise....
[22:58] <rsaw> VMing it is cleaner I think, but many ways to skin that cat.
[22:59] <rsaw> right on.,
[22:59] <genii-around> rosco_y: If you want a good exercise to do for learning, I recommend Linux From Scratch
[22:59] <rsaw> Gentoo or LFS is a good learning experience for sure.
[22:59] <genii-around> !lfs
[23:00] <rosco_y> genii-around: The thing is, I have enough exercise trying to get the things I need to finish completed, without inventing new exercises :)
[23:00] <genii-around> Hehe :)
[23:00] <rsaw> Another good way to learn was to install DVL (Damn Vunerable Linux, no longer made) and then pen test iwt with BackTrack, keep securing DVL until it's as secure as it can be.
[23:00] <rsaw> DVL had tons of holes on purpose.
[23:00] <rosco_y> that's why I'm hooked on LTS, it's really time-consuming to be farting around, rebuilding and reconfiguring
[23:01] <rosco_y> especially if it's happening once or twice a month
[23:01] <rsaw> me too. I just want stuff to work. I remember when I first got involved in Linux back in 1996, different world back then. I don'
[23:01] <rosco_y> with LTS, I just hit the on button and go.
[23:01] <rsaw> t want to tweak and geek for days, I have other things to do.
[23:01] <rsaw> LTS is for the most part, yeah.
[23:02] <rsaw> Is Kubuntu moving to Wayland?
[23:02] <genii-around> I don't see any mention of it being made in #kubuntu-devel
[23:02] <rsaw> Are they going to use Mir then?
[23:03] <rosco_y> rsaw: agreed.  I first played around with BSD back in the early 80's--I think it took me three days to download nearly 100 3.5" floppy images....
[23:03] <rsaw> X is going away, at least in Ubuntu it is.
[23:03] <rosco_y> Ubuntu rocks....
[23:03] <rosco_y> install it and go to work.
[23:03] <rsaw> rosco_y: heheh BSD, good stuff. Most secure OS right out of the box is OpenBSD
[23:03] <rsaw> My router runs pfSense, which is BSD-based.
[23:04] <rosco_y> The wireless functionality of my router is going kuptutz.  Can anyone recommend an affordable replacement that I might consider buying?
[23:05] <rosco_y> I upgraded the firmware last night, still doesn't work correctly.....
[23:05] <genii-around> The TP-Links aren't bad
[23:05] <rsaw> rosco_y: Whatever you buy, make sure it's ipv6 capable, not all of them are.
[23:05] <rsaw> Personally, I vote for making your own router.
[23:05] <rosco_y> rsaw: ty.  that is something I hadn't considered
[23:06] <monkeyjuice> dd-wrt
[23:06] <rsaw> Just take a PC, toss on 3 NICs, 2 wired, one for LAN, one for WAN, and a wireless.
[23:06] <rosco_y> "making" your own router....?
[23:06] <rsaw> then install pfSense
[23:06]  * rosco_y oops...I'm in the wrong room.....
[23:06] <rosco_y> jk...
[23:06] <rosco_y> I couldn't imagine what it would take to make a router
[23:06] <genii-around> monkeyjuice: tplink 8960 with openwrt is good also :)
[23:06] <rsaw> rosco_y: A PC with 2 NICs
[23:06] <monkeyjuice> indeed ;)
[23:07] <monkeyjuice> have 3 old linksys
[23:07] <rsaw> I bought a unit already made, because I wanted less power consumption, I bought a Netgate FW-7535 with 2GB of RAM, upgraded it to 4GB.
[23:07] <rosco_y> mine isn't really even that old in my opinion, it's a Linksys Wireless-g
[23:07] <rsaw> Yeah, the LinkSys have like 2MB RAM and run VxWOrks...
[23:08] <rsaw> Some can be changed out to DD-WRT, Tomato, etc, but not pfSense.
[23:08] <monkeyjuice> whats wrong with it rosco_y
[23:08] <rsaw> His wifi die.
[23:08] <monkeyjuice> ah
[23:08] <rosco_y> monkeyjuice:  It doesn't seem to be broadcasting continually anymore
[23:08] <monkeyjuice> i would try dd-wrt
[23:08] <rosco_y> sometimes people can see it, and then it goes away
[23:08] <monkeyjuice> might fix it
[23:09] <rsaw> rosco_y: You ever seen pfSense? If not, I think you'd be impressed. They also have a channel on here as well.
[23:09] <rosco_y> dd-wrt?
[23:09] <monkeyjuice> looks at pfsense
[23:09] <genii-around> rosco_y: dd-wrt and openwrt are alternate firmwares for many routers
[23:09] <rosco_y> rsaw: I've never even heard of pfSense,
[23:09] <rsaw> DD-WRT is a replacement firmware, but make sure your router's hardware version is supported.
[23:09] <rsaw> rosco_y: pfsense.org
[23:09] <rosco_y> genii-around: can I install dd-wrt on my router?
[23:09] <rsaw> It's free, and enterprise level.
[23:10] <genii-around> rosco_y: You'd have to look at their site and see if it's on the list
[23:10] <rsaw> rosco_y: maybe. Look at the HCL.
[23:10] <genii-around> And at this point I should probably do an !ot on us all ;)
[23:10] <rsaw> oh fine!
[23:10] <rosco_y> ok, thank you everyone, I'll go take a look--maybe save me a little of my hard-earned-pay :)
[23:10] <rsaw> :D
[23:10] <rsaw> !ot
[23:11] <rsaw> I deed it! I deed it!
[23:11] <genii-around> !helpersnack | rsaw
[23:11] <monkeyjuice> its still linux stuff ;)
[23:11] <rsaw> rosco_y:  Seriously, check out pfSense.
[23:11] <rsaw> mmmmmm cookie!!
[23:12] <rsaw> and on that note, I'm taking my delicious cookie and gong home. The work day has ended for me.
[23:12] <rosco_y> rsaw: I'm browsing there now....looking at their "new installs" section
[23:12] <rsaw> rosco_y: It's good stuff. If you use a PC, get the live CD. If you are using a CF card, that's what the nano 2G and nano4G is for,
[23:12] <rosco_y> I have the general idea that I'm looking to rewrite my firmware in my router--is that about it?
[23:13] <rsaw> rosco_y: yeah, if you go with DD-WRT or Tomato, yes.
[23:13] <rsaw> If pfSense, yopu'll need  to build a router for it, or use a PC.
[23:13] <rsaw> or buy one premade like I did.
[23:14] <rsaw> ok, cookie is gone, I've no milk, time to jet. cya all.
[23:14] <monkeyjuice> l8r
[23:14] <rosco_y> I kind of think I might have downloaded something like this directly from LinkSys last night--I didn't actually look at it, but it was open-source and had the makefiles and stuff to build it in linux
[23:17] <rosco_y> What is TFTP?  would that be selecting the bin file and flashing over the ethernet connect to the pc?
[23:18] <rosco_y> I have choices for a mini-build for initial flashing via TFTP,  and flashing via WEB (which doesn't sound all that appealing to me)
[23:19] <rosco_y> or, should I be looking at the "Standard Generic" version?
[23:30] <genii-around> rosco_y: tftp is like ftp without authentication/login