[00:42] <systemd0wn> Question, I'm going to use lubuntu for the first time. I've had problems with certain kernels. Will going back to 3.5-rc2 be detrimental?
[00:54] <melodie> systemd0wn do you know what type of problem this has been about ?
[00:55] <melodie> systemd0wn I rephrase : can you say more about the problems you met ?
[00:55] <melodie> and with which kernels ?
[03:11] <smoke_> hi, im trying to get my usb headset activated as the default audio output device for alsa but for some reason even when i set in my .asoundrc it does not activate it anybody know where the central config is located at?
[04:31] <donnie> Fresh install problems
[04:43] <donnie> is lxde famous for crashing?
[05:33] <donnie> How can any normal soul stand lubuntu? It crashes 99% of the time... shockwave, in chromium will not go without crashing
[07:21] <Gardo> hi people how can I start lubuntu in text mode
[07:33] <smoke_> does pulseaudio come default with lubuntu? i inistalled lubuntu a coupel days ago, and im having problems with my usb headset and alsa, and i discovered pulseaudio is controlling some stuff
[07:33] <smoke_> i thought it normally doenst come on lubuntu?
[09:10] <_frosty-> is lubuntu suited best for my old laptop?
[09:11] <_frosty-> running xp now is slow
[10:46] <i4c>  hi does anybody know how to copy "this application closed unexpectedly" full error report ? i tried ctrl+c and rightclick but nothing :(
[11:40] <grouver> Hello. What happend.  I installed Ubuntu a while ago. It crashed and my computer didnt boot anymore. Now I tried installing Lubuntu. During the installation it asked me to remove ubuntu completly. I confirmed. During the installation my computer crashed with the error: "stopping cpu interrupts balancing daemon [OK]"  I googled but cant seem to find a decent straigth forward answer to fix this.
[11:44] <i4c> hi grouver, have u tried going for the custom solution and erasing everything with gparted
[11:44] <i4c> then installing fresh
[11:44] <grouver> How can I do t his without a OS?
[11:45] <i4c> i am not 100% sure, but i think so, can anyone confirm ?
[11:45] <i4c> i am gonna ask on ubuntu channel
[11:47] <i4c> they say u can install o a clean disc grouver
[11:47] <i4c> if u have imporant setting backup home folder
[11:47] <i4c> i always do that
[11:49] <grouver> i4c, how do you mean? I dont have a OS to run gparted. I am stuck in the installation proces. So how do i suppose to clean the disk?
[11:50] <i4c> use the lubuntu cd, run the live version do not select to uninstall, it comes with gparted i think, from there select to delete ur whole disc
[11:51] <i4c> then the ubuntu clashing with lubuntu problems will go away
[11:52] <i4c> if u have any questions highlight me, i will be here for a couple more hours, so i can help u through the process
[11:52] <grouver> i4c, iam at work now. But I think i get it.
[11:53] <melodie> hi
[11:53] <grouver> instead of let lubuntu handle the whole removing I need to use gparted during the partion choose proces.
[11:54] <grouver> and do it manually myself.
[11:54] <i4c> yes, gparted is very intuitive to use
[11:55] <i4c> and after that goodbye unity and welcome lxde :P
[11:55] <melodie> i4c :)
[11:56] <melodie> I tried raring unity in my vbox yesterday, it almost killed me ! :D
[11:56] <grouver> i4c, thanks :)
[11:58] <melodie> bbl
[12:11] <AndreeeCZ> hello goog people: is there a way to make gloobus-preview work with pcmanfm?
[12:18] <i4c> hi AndreeeCZ i am not aware of how, u should ask the gloobus devs at #gloobus or https://bugs.launchpad.net/gloobus-preview
[12:21] <AndreeeCZ> i4c, the thing is that gloobus is unmaintained, the channel is empty etc
[12:22] <AndreeeCZ> i4c, i have managed to make it work under marlin/nautilus, but they are far from pcmanfm in terms of design and lightweightness and ui
[12:29] <i4c> sad to hear about that AndreeeCZ sounded nice, have u tried alternative file previewers like sushi ?
[12:30] <AndreeeCZ> i4c, havent heard of it.
[12:31] <AndreeeCZ> nautilus-only?
[12:32] <i4c> its a shame all the file previewers i find seem to be made with gnome in mind
[12:33] <AndreeeCZ> i dont mind gnome. (I personally use "sort of" xfce), but i do mind nautilus.
[12:34] <i4c> AndreeeCZ,  have u tried nautilus forks ?
[12:34] <AndreeeCZ> I have tried marlin
[12:34] <i4c> caja ?
[12:35] <AndreeeCZ> pcmanfm fits perfectly for me. The only thing im missing is a hide-menu option
[12:35] <i4c> i think caja is supervised by the guys forking gnome 2, because they disliked gnome 3 or something like that
[12:36] <AndreeeCZ> ill check it out
[12:36] <i4c> it is included in linux mint by default with the mate DE
[12:37] <i4c> http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/install-mate-14-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <i4c> or u can try it in ubuntu
[12:38] <AndreeeCZ> i use arch
[12:38] <AndreeeCZ> and it requires mate-common
[12:38] <i4c> oh :d ok, i always wanted to try arch, but the installation process always seemed a bit daunting
[12:38] <i4c> but the AUR is very appealing
[12:42] <rapid76> buon giorno a tutti
[12:43] <rapid76> c'e' qualcuno che mi puo' dare una mano ?
[12:43] <AndreeeCZ> bon giorno, englis please
[12:43] <AndreeeCZ> h
[12:43] <rapid76> :D
[12:44] <rapid76> my english is terrible
[12:44] <AndreeeCZ> my italian is non-existent
[12:44] <rapid76> ahahhaa
[12:44] <rapid76> :D
[12:44] <AndreeeCZ> mah, thats terrible, i4c. pcmanfm is just the best and the quick-view is awesome.
[12:45] <AndreeeCZ> I didnt know i need it at all, but then i saw a friend of mine using it on his mac a its just goo.
[12:45] <AndreeeCZ> d
[12:45] <AndreeeCZ> i4c, besides, i dont like gtk3
[12:47] <i4c> ah okay, do u know any easy install script or something easy to install arch, like achieving lubuntu with arch
[12:47] <i4c> sry i cannot help u anymore AndreeeCZ  :(
[12:47] <rapid76> tnx
[12:55] <AndreeeCZ> i4c, arch installation is not a difficult as it seams. You just follow the wiki step by step and youre done in 40mins with netinstall (inluding a DE)
[14:59] <k4jcw> Greetings. Does lubuntu use the apt repositories as ubuntu? I'm currently running a Gentoo server that I'm getting annoyed with, and thinking of switching it over to lubuntu. However, some of the packages in the lubuntu repository are a little behind where I want to be (mediawiki, for example). I know ubuntu unstable has more recent versions, and I'm curious if I can configure apt-get to use the unstables. (I'm a lot familiar with G
[14:59] <k4jcw> entoo than lubuntu, so I'm still learning here)
[15:04] <genii-around> k4jcw: Yes, all the official *buntu distributions use the same repositories, the main differences are in the different desktop environments they use as default
[15:05] <k4jcw> Excellent. I've been digging lubuntu. I liked KDE, but it's gotten so bloated, and so many features I don't use. And I've never like Gnome.
[15:05] <k4jcw> If you're one of the maintainers/developers/etc, thanks!
[15:06] <genii-around> k4jcw: I'm just a helper, but I'm sure some are around and will appreciate the kudos
[15:07] <k4jcw> The helpers are important. Everyone who contributes is important in the software eco-system. I'm more of an embedded guy myself, and try to contribute in that field.
[15:30] <k4jcw> Is there a testing/unstable installer or installer option? Or do I need to edit sources.list and change it testing or unstable? I see for ubuntu, the recommendation is to do a fresh install selecting unstable, but I don't recall that being an option when installing lubuntu.
[15:52] <i4c> same with me k4jcw i really like lxde+kupfer
[16:53] <wxl> _frosty-: the one you build yourself with no gui.
[16:53] <wxl> ooops wrong channel :)
[17:56] <Grouver> Damn. During installation of lubuntu i still get the error: "stopping cpu interrupts balancing daemon" . AFter advise from i4c (his name was i believe) i deleted all partitions and made a swap area and a ext4 partition. Still getting the error. :(
[18:26] <tweakster> isn't there a beginner lubuntu channel here?
[18:26] <wxl> tweakster: no, but feel free to ask questions
[18:26] <wxl> it's not like #ubuntu where they need a separate channel because there's so much traffic
[18:27] <tweakster> i have a question about bash, which i cannot solve by googling..
[18:27] <tweakster> i installed lubuntu core but the XTerm does not seem to have a history at the prompt accessible with the up arrows...
[18:28] <tweakster> at least i don't seem to be able to make it work...
[18:28] <wxl> that's strange
[18:28] <tweakster> i looked at the .bashrc, but I cannot see anything that indicated it should not have this feature.
[18:28] <wxl> should be standard bash functionality
[18:29] <wxl> does it work in lxterminal?
[18:29] <tweakster> let me give it a try there
[18:29] <wxl> works for me in xterm, too
[18:29] <wxl> echo $BASH_VERSION
[18:30] <tweakster> when i use the up arrow, i see this:  ^[[A
[18:32] <wxl> maybe some kind of keymap issue∆
[18:32] <tweakster> the command "echo $BASH_VERSION" does not return anything at all
[18:33] <wxl> huh?
[18:33] <tweakster> natha
[18:33] <wxl> what about
[18:33] <wxl> whereis bash
[18:34] <tweakster> as far as I have found, the commands work, but this history is missing, and apparently echo is having problems
[18:34] <wxl> echo $SHELL
[18:34] <tweakster> /bin/sh
[18:34] <wxl> ah ha
[18:34] <wxl> you're not using bash
[18:34] <wxl> thus your problem
[18:35] <wxl> let's be extra sure
[18:35] <wxl> ps -p $$
[18:35] <tweakster> so lubuntu core did not install it with XTerm
[18:36] <wxl> that is indeed strange
[18:37] <tweakster> i saw two lines with that command: first, PID TTY   TIME CMD      second, 9502  pts/5   00:00:00 sh
[18:37] <wxl> yep
[18:37] <wxl> you're running sh
[18:37] <wxl> so now try this:
[18:37] <wxl> whereis bash
[18:39] <tweakster> whereis bash showed this:   bash: /bin/bash /etc/bash.bashrc  /usr/share/man/man1/bash.1.gz
[18:39] <wxl> so you do have bash
[18:41] <tweakster> okay, i think i got it working now from what you said
[18:42] <tweakster> at the prompt after starting XTerm, I have to type bash
[18:42] <tweakster> now i have the right looking prompt and i have history
[18:42] <tweakster> so bash is apparently not loading automatically for this user
[18:42] <wxl> i'm trying to figure out where the default is set
[18:43] <tweakster> i created this user after installing the OS
[18:43] <wxl> then i bet that's the problem
[18:43] <wxl> does the user you first created use bash or sh?
[18:43] <tweakster> perhaps i need to assign bash to its default profile?
[18:43] <tweakster> that first user is gone completely, i had to remove it.
[18:44] <genii-around> Then you have no user with admin rights
[18:44] <tweakster> so at least now i know what i need to do. figure out how to assign bash to a user's profile
[18:44] <wxl> or maybe he created new; made admin; deleted original genii-around
[18:44] <tweakster> i have admin rights with a user named root
[18:44] <tweakster> and with sudo
[18:45] <genii-around> Hm
[18:45] <wxl> and that user's shell is…?
[18:45] <tweakster> which user are you referring to now?
[18:46] <tweakster> i only have two that i know of.  my regular one, which i created, and root.
[18:46] <wxl> root
[18:46] <tweakster> in any case, if i only have to type bash to get the bash shell, i am fine with that.
[18:47] <tweakster> let me see what happens with root shell. wait one
[18:47] <tweakster> i do not log on wit root normally
[18:47] <wxl> you can add SHELL="/bin/bash" to /etc/environment if you want to set it globally
[18:48] <wxl> interestingly none of my global environment files refer to shell
[18:49] <tweakster> root has bash shell
[18:50] <wxl> strange
[18:50] <wxl> that's what i'd expect in any case
[18:52] <wxl> tweakster: chsh -s /bin/bash
[18:53] <tweakster> i am looking in /etc/environment right now and there is only one line, which is PATH="...<folders>..."
[18:53] <wxl> tweakster: that's why i used the word "add"
[18:54] <tweakster> put SHELL="/bin/bash" as a second line, you mean, right?
[18:54] <wxl> right
[18:54] <wxl> or just chsh -s /bin/bash
[18:54] <wxl> which will change only your user
[18:55] <tweakster> put that command at the bash prompt right now, or back at sh prompt? "chsh -s /bin/bash"
[18:56] <wxl> tweakster: doesn't matter. not a shell-specific feature
[18:56] <tweakster> maybe it does not matter, i don't know
[18:56] <tweakster> :)
[18:57] <zleap> what are you trying to do
[18:57] <wxl> zleap: he created a new user and got /bin/sh as a default shell.
[18:57] <zleap> you can change the default shell in the user settings
[18:58] <zleap> shell
[18:58] <zleap> system tools - users adn groups,  select user and click advanced,
[18:58] <wxl> or you could do that
[18:58] <wxl> not sure that's part of lubuntu-core though
[18:58] <Grouver> During installation of lubuntu i still get the error: "stopping cpu interrupts balancing daemon" . AFter advise from i4c (his name was i believe) i deleted all partitions and made a swap area and a ext4 partition. Still getting the error. :(
[18:59] <zleap> well there has to be some sort of gui tool for adding / managing users
[18:59] <tweakster> it appears to be a command available to me, yes.
[18:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Here's a quickie: Is the latest (stable) Lubuntu image "dd-compatible"?
[18:59] <wxl> zleap: yep, the command line.
[18:59] <zleap> ok
[18:59] <wxl> SonikkuAmerica: afaik, they all are.
[18:59] <zleap> isn't the shell used by a  user also in /etc/passwd
[19:00] <wxl> zleap: yeah, that's what chsh affects
[19:00] <tweakster> thanks for the help, wxl. i should be good now for while anyway.  :)
[19:00] <SonikkuAmerica> wxl: Thanks. I've been thinking of downsizing to Lubuntu and since dd'ing to a hard disk is the only way to install the OS...
[19:00] <wxl> SonikkuAmerica: it is? :)
[19:00] <zleap> ok thanks too,  that is useful
[19:00] <wxl> Grouver: have you seen this? http://en.kioskea.net/faq/27144-lubuntu-error-message-stopping-cpu-interrupts-balancing-daemons
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> wxl: usb-creator-gtk doesn't work (of course), and I don't have a DVD or USB stick, but I do have an IDE hard drive that I can hook up via USB.
[19:01] <SonikkuAmerica> That's how I installed Ubuntu (with Unity) last time.
[19:02] <wxl> SonikkuAmerica: oh now i get it; yeah that works
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> wxl: lol, I wasn't too clear with that.
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> thx
[19:02] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll b back
[19:02]  * wxl waves
[19:02] <Grouver> wxl,  NICE!
[19:02] <Grouver> thanks :)
[19:05] <tweakster> i think i got logged out, so i'm not sure if my text posted.  thanks for the help, wxl. i should be good now for a while anyway.
[19:05] <wxl> tweakster: np
[20:29] <Grouver> wxl, hi are you still there? :)
[20:29] <Grouver> anyways, I worked it out. Its working now.
[20:30] <Grouver> Though the original problem i had was the following. I keep getting the message: "Disconnected your now offline"   then it retries connecting ... and then again: "Disconnected your now offline"
[20:31] <Grouver> i searched the net for similair problems.. but couldnt find a solution.
[20:31] <Grouver> Now somebody over here told me to not test the internet via the live cd but just install it first and then try to find the problem.
[20:31] <Grouver> so its installed now... but i still have the same problem.
[20:31] <Grouver> I hope somebody can help me.
[20:41] <Grouver> nobody I guess? :(
[20:49] <phillw> Grouver: soz, I've only just landed on the page
[20:50] <phillw> what version of lubuntu are you installing?
[20:51] <Grouver> phillw, uh, let me check.
[20:54] <Grouver> lsb_release -a tells me:  Ubuntu 12.04
[20:55] <Grouver> But I installed lubuntu.. so iam not sure how to check the version of lubuntu.
[20:55] <phillw> wxl: for the last person with a usb device they wanted to make an ISO copy  onto, I suggested https://launchpad.net/gdiskdump As they never came back to complain (and believe me... they would have!). I assume it works.
[20:56] <phillw> lsb-release will not show lubuntu... but assuming you used a lubuntu install disk, you will be running lubuntu 12.04 :)
[20:56] <Grouver> which is good? :p
[20:57] <phillw> Grouver: it is usual... kubuntu/xubuntu etc. will all show it as ubuntu :)
[20:57] <Grouver> okay. :)
[20:58] <Grouver> Its weird btw phillw.  I have checked t he cable with a other computer and it worked.
[20:58] <Grouver> I also checked the network card by installing windows xp or whatever... and it worked just fine.
[20:58] <Grouver> Now only with lubuntu it keeps reconnecting to the wired network.
[20:58] <Grouver> So I have a feeling its not about the hardware.
[20:59] <wxl> it won't connect to wired? that's bizarre.
[21:00] <Grouver> it keeps reconnecting and showing me the popup in the upper right corner that iam offline.
[21:03] <wxl> Grouver: pastebin the results of ifconfig
[21:04] <Grouver> pastebin is gonna be hard without internet xD
[21:04] <wxl> haahah oh yeah i forgot
[21:05] <wxl> well shoot.
[21:05] <Grouver> ill save it to notepad to a usb?
[21:05] <Grouver> besides ifconfig some more requets so i can do test/do it at once?
[21:05] <wxl> you can save it to a usb but you'll be hardpressed to use a windows program to do it
[21:07] <Grouver> anyways... ill go upstairs..
[21:07] <Grouver> be back in a bit.
[21:15] <Grouver> hmm well darn... it doesnt recocnize any usb device. =/
[21:15] <wxl> so do you have an ubuntu install on that machine?
[21:16] <Grouver> no, only a lubuntu install.
[21:16] <wxl> well
[21:16] <wxl> when you installed it, it checked to see if you were connected to the internet, did it not?
[21:16] <Grouver> yes. i wasnt connected.
[21:16] <wxl> hm
[21:16] <Grouver> but somebody advised overhere to just install and see later whats going on.
[21:17] <wxl> can you run the live cd on that machine?
[21:17] <Grouver> yes.
[21:17] <wxl> and did it have networking when you ran the live cd?
[21:17] <Grouver> no it didnt.  but again somebody here advised me to just install.
[21:17] <wxl> what card do yo uhave?
[21:18] <Grouver> I guess there is a command for that.. let me look that up.
[21:18] <wxl> lspci | grep -i eth
[21:19] <Grouver> hmm ok let me check.. after that i will go to bed. one sec.
[21:26] <Grouver> wxl, here we go: Intel Cooperation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 05)
[21:28] <Grouver> but it does work when i install xp or whatever.
[21:28] <wxl> that means little
[21:28] <Grouver> and its also not about the cable since if i hook up another ubuntu pc it works fine.
[21:29] <wxl> can't find anything specifically related to that
[21:30] <wxl> see if it persists in a live 12.10 environment
[21:30] <wxl> if it doesn't, install 12.10
[21:31] <Grouver> okay will try that tommorow. Thanks for you help.
[21:31]  * Grouver waves!
[21:31] <wxl> see yuz
[22:36] <Slappybag> =(
[22:36]  * wxl slaps Slappybag 
[22:36] <wxl> sorry, couldn't help it.
[22:36]  * Slappybag rubs face
[22:37] <Slappybag> Well, lubuntu has the least idlers on IRC of the main *ubuntu distros
[22:37] <Slappybag> WE NEED MORE POWER MEN!
[22:37] <wxl> is that per capita?
[22:37] <Slappybag> Yup.
[22:39] <Slappybag> I must return to my people.
[22:39] <wxl> good luck