| sary | try to update the archive , then see if there is available package upgrade. | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sary | which command you've used to install the .deb file! | 00:00 |
| sary | another thing to check , are you sure you're trying to install the correct architecture for your system! | 00:02 |
| duanedesign | is split pane viewing acailable still i Nautilus? | 00:05 |
| bjsnider | duanedesign, no | 00:30 |
| Guest53169 | hello | 00:48 |
| sary | hi | 00:49 |
| Guest53169 | I have a question about my wifi, I am not sure if I should ask here or regular ubuntu channel but I am using 13.04 | 00:49 |
| Guest53169 | basically, my wifi is still working just fine, but today it seems that I have to wait bout a minute after it boots to connect to my router, and I am wondering if that might be part of the 'joy' of the pre-release | 00:51 |
| Guest53169 | it used to be connected as soon as I booted | 00:51 |
| Guest53169 | am I in the wrong channel for tech support? | 00:53 |
| === Guest53169 is now known as KernelSandurs | ||
| bjsnider | you might check dmesg while that's happening to see if there's anything being spammed in there | 00:53 |
| KernelSandurs | ok, I am not sure where to find dmesg logs | 00:54 |
| sary | /var/log | 00:55 |
| KernelSandurs | thank you | 00:56 |
| KernelSandurs | I suspect this might also not be ubuntu's fault at all, I know I made a change to my network yesterday - I took my main PC off wired and put in wifi. | 00:57 |
| duanedesign | thanks bjsnider for the answer, despite my bad english typing | 00:57 |
| KernelSandurs | could that possibly cause my laptop to detect the network slower? | 00:58 |
| KernelSandurs | I know almost nothing about how to read a dmesg log, but I didn't see anything that looked like an obvious problem | 01:00 |
| sary | will, what changes you've made .. and also is this the first time you noiced the delay , or did it ever happend on a different ubuntu release with the same NIC chipt! | 01:00 |
| KernelSandurs | well, this laptop is the only machine running xubuntu consistantly, and I started with 12.10 and then upgraded to 13.04 after about a week of 12.10, that was about a month ago | 01:02 |
| KernelSandurs | so in short, no I have not tested with any other releases or hardware, I am kinda really thinking this is somehow caused by the network change, but that just seems strange that adding 1 pc would make that much difference | 01:02 |
| KernelSandurs | I suppose I will have to investigate this more thoroughly when I am in a mood to crawl around under my desk to mess with the cables | 01:03 |
| KernelSandurs | Is there a rolling release of Ubuntu? I remember a thread where someone said something about 13.04 being a rolling release | 01:06 |
| === nooneinstores is now known as airbander | ||
| Riley88 | hey guys have any of yall tried i3 on ubuntu | 03:34 |
| Riley88 | lightdm refuses to start it for some reason im in tty right now | 03:34 |
| Riley88 | hey did anyone see my previous comment | 03:53 |
| Riley88 | i rebooted | 03:53 |
| Riley88 | wtf | 04:08 |
| Riley88 | this channel is dead | 04:08 |
| repete | Hi all | 09:17 |
| repete | Anyone know how to get Unity Web Apps working with Chromium? | 09:18 |
| repete | I'm getting prompted inconsistently, and in the end... nothing happens :-/ | 09:18 |
| repete | Sorry, this is in Raring (not Quantal) | 09:18 |
| steveire | Hi. I can't seem to use icecc with raring. | 10:43 |
| steveire | * Starting distributed compiler daemon iceccd start-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/icecc/iceccd.pid' for writing (No such file or directory) | 10:43 |
| steveire | [fail] | 10:43 |
| zAo^ | steveire, does /var/run/icecc/ exist? | 10:50 |
| steveire | zAo^: Nope | 10:50 |
| zAo^ | create it then ;) | 10:50 |
| steveire | Hmm, that at least seems to get me onto the icecream network (I see myself in icemon), but I don't seem to be actually compiling through the network | 10:52 |
| steveire | stephen@hal:~/dev/build/qtbase-ns/qtbase-ns$ which g++ | 10:53 |
| steveire | /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ | 10:53 |
| steveire | stephen@hal:~/dev/build/qtbase-ns/qtbase-ns$ ll /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ | 10:53 |
| steveire | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 17 16:33 /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ -> ../../../bin/icecc* | 10:53 |
| BluesKaj | "Morning all | 11:24 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| === ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici | ||
| BluesKaj | installed the 310.14 experimental driver on Kubuntu 13.04 , but the 304.84 nvidia-current driver leaves the kernel module behind after the 310 install is finished and rebooted creating an API mismatch upon rebooting . Had to do a dpkg -r nvidia-304 to remove the left overs . The 310 kernel module / driver now boot into the OS just fine. Jockey isn't cleaning the old kernel module / drivers out whm installing the new driver | 12:36 |
| BluesKaj | . | 12:36 |
| k1l | i installed the 313 and it boots up to the 313 module just fine | 12:40 |
| BluesKaj | k1l: don't think my card can handle the 313 | 12:41 |
| BluesKaj | the 310.14 is about as bleeding edge my 8400GS can handle | 12:42 |
| k1l | got a 8600 gt m | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | are you using the first experimental driver at the top of the list in jockey ? | 12:43 |
| k1l | i did use the 310 experimental at 12.10. that was the first entry in 13.04 | 12:44 |
| k1l | just switched to the 313 some days ago. didnt had any püroblems with the 310 before | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | the 8400gs driver recommended for linux on nvidia's site is the 310.40 , which isn't available in jockey for my card afaik | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | unfortunately jockey doesn't give the driver numbers , just a name , so it's hard to tell what's being listed as experimental | 12:48 |
| k1l | jockey lists the numbers for me | 12:48 |
| k1l | BluesKaj: but you can install the nvidia drivers with apt. so you know exactly what to install | 12:48 |
| BluesKaj | unity eh, I'm a KDE guy , that probly expalins it | 12:49 |
| k1l | yeah. im on unity | 12:49 |
| k1l | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia is the list of available nvidia stuff | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | k1l: yeah I should have thought of that first ...not enough coffee yet this morning :) | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | i still use synaptic for refernceing packages , should have looked up the drivers first | 12:51 |
| BluesKaj | k1l: something odd , the 310 driver also installs the 313 settings updates , not the 310 settings updates | 12:56 |
| k1l | hmm | 12:56 |
| BluesKaj | anticipating a nvidia driver upgrade i guess | 12:57 |
| k1l | when opening nautilus on unity it seems to restart unity :/ | 13:14 |
| bjsnider | BluesKaj, the 313 will drive your card | 13:28 |
| bjsnider | all hardware prior to the geforce 8 was dropped, but you have a geforce 8 | 13:28 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider: nvidia's site recommends the 310.44 driver , and the 313 driver isn't listed in synaptic , but I can check again | 13:30 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider: there's no nvidia-313 driver listed in synaptic , only the dev , updates, and settings updates | 13:32 |
| bjsnider | ok, it's in xorg-edgers because it's still beta, but i assure you it will drive your hardware | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | updates-dev rather | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | the ppa , ok | 13:34 |
| BluesKaj | altho , the 310 seems to be doing fine atm | 13:35 |
| bjsnider | look for nvidia-313-updates | 13:35 |
| === murthy_ is now known as murthy | ||
| bjsnider | it's there | 13:35 |
| bjsnider | i expect users with old junk will be left on the nvidia-304 series and newer stuff will be on the 310 by the end of the raring cycle | 13:38 |
| BluesKaj | had to remove the nvidia-304 with dpkg -r in the tty..leftover modules created an API confict with the new 310 driver | 13:39 |
| bjsnider | they both create nvidia.ko, so i don't see how they could coexist | 13:41 |
| minas | i am using 13.04 and I have noticed that when I double click a script that has executable rights, I don't get promted to run it (that's what happen in 12.10). is this a bug? | 13:49 |
| BluesKaj | ok bjsnider here goes , installing nvidia-313 as we speak | 14:00 |
| bjsnider | lemme know if the same thing happens that happened with the move from 304>310 | 14:00 |
| BluesKaj | well I can remve the 310 module if need be | 14:03 |
| bjsnider | yes but if it happens again i want you to submitteth a buggeth | 14:03 |
| BluesKaj | ok bjsnider nvidia 313.26 successfully installed , no glitches or bugs needeth be reporteth | 14:32 |
| bjsnider | that's no fun | 14:32 |
| BluesKaj | well did some cleaning house before rebooting auttoremove /autoclean etc | 14:33 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider: what's the better setting in desktop effects , native or raster , or does unity even give the option? | 14:41 |
| BluesKaj | dunno how much Qt is used on ubuntu | 14:42 |
| bjsnider | desktop effects? | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | yeah kwin , not compiz | 14:44 |
| bjsnider | ask someone who knows something about kwin | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | ok , just figureed you might have heard some comments about it | 14:47 |
| bjsnider | i have some comments about it, but i can't say them in here | 14:48 |
| BluesKaj | hehe ok , to each his own | 14:49 |
| === ritz_ is now known as ritz|ud | ||
| BluesKaj | glxgears isn't very smooth ...herky jerky , was nice and smooth with the 310 driver :P | 14:54 |
| === afoo is now known as avu | ||
| oskar- | hi all, has anyone else experienced a broken /usr/sbin/python during the release upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04? | 16:18 |
| oskar- | i had to remove package "nscd" and then install the new version of the "libc6" package to be able to continue. | 16:20 |
| SonikkuAmerica | There seems to be no way to install Google Chrome in 13.04 Beta 1 due to the absence of libudev0 | 16:27 |
| === murthy is now known as murthy_ | ||
| sary | SonikkuAmerica: hi , what's wrong with Chromium! | 17:34 |
| wilee-nilee | sary, I don't think it is being maintained is it? | 17:35 |
| hachre1 | ? | 17:37 |
| hachre1 | why do I have a 1 | 17:37 |
| === hachre1 is now known as hachre | ||
| hachre | why should Chromium not be maintained?? | 17:38 |
| hachre | latest version is 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3 sounds quite up to date to me | 17:40 |
| SonikkuAmerica | One second... I'm getting out of a class | 17:44 |
| sary | wilee-nilee: hi :) sure it is, there i also PPA's for it ( stable,daily builds ) . | 17:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (btw my issue is with the Google Chrome .deb, not with ChromIUM) | 17:46 |
| hachre | SonikkuAmerica: where do you get that deb from? | 17:46 |
| hachre | current versions are 26.x for final, 26.x for beta and 27.x for dev... the 25->26. switch in final happened very recently | 17:47 |
| wilee-nilee | sary, the stable and daily were last loaded in 5-12-2012 ans 4-12-2012 | 17:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | hachre: Google's web site (using google-chrome-stable) | 17:47 |
| hachre | I'm using their ppa, but I'm using unstable | 17:48 |
| hachre | but it tells me | 17:48 |
| hachre | google-chrome-stable is 26.0.1410.43-r189671 | 17:48 |
| hachre | which is perfectly up to date | 17:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | One second. | 17:49 |
| hachre | deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main | 17:49 |
| hachre | that's what im using | 17:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5671167/ | 17:50 |
| wilee-nilee | I would look in the PPA's as far as last loads I believe none are really current, which does not necessarily matter it is a personal choice. | 17:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Stupid pastebinit pipe didn't copy what was important... | 17:51 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Here's what really shows up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5671181/ | 17:54 |
| hachre | So why don't you install libudev | 17:55 |
| hachre | 0 | 17:55 |
| wilee-nilee | yeah installed in my 12.04 setup | 17:56 |
| hachre | 175-0ubuntu19 is current in raring | 17:56 |
| wilee-nilee | 9.3 in precise | 17:57 |
| sary | I have 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3 | 17:57 |
| sary | in raring. | 17:57 |
| trism | it seems libudev0 was deleted a few hours ago, probably the issue | 17:58 |
| trism | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/libudev0 | 17:58 |
| trism | since we have libudev1 now | 17:58 |
| SonikkuAmerica | OK, I'm back | 17:58 |
| hachre | wb | 17:59 |
| hachre | i was saying | 17:59 |
| hachre | why don't you install libudev0 then | 17:59 |
| trism | because it is not in the archive anymore... | 17:59 |
| SonikkuAmerica | It won't install: "has no installation candidate" | 17:59 |
| hachre | oh | 17:59 |
| hachre | that must be very new | 17:59 |
| hachre | i only installed this raring two days ago | 18:00 |
| hachre | and it worked then | 18:00 |
| trism | 17 hours ago | 18:00 |
| hachre | ok | 18:00 |
| hachre | well you can have my deb if you want ;D | 18:00 |
| hachre | i got 175-0ubuntu19 | 18:00 |
| SonikkuAmerica | You could DCC it | 18:00 |
| hachre | ill upload it | 18:00 |
| hachre | to my server | 18:00 |
| hachre | sec | 18:00 |
| hachre | whoops | 18:01 |
| trism | you don't really need to do that, it is still on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/175-0ubuntu19 click on builds | 18:02 |
| otend | well, this is strange. 13.04 is more stable than 12.04 LTS on my setup. | 18:02 |
| otend | I'd usually have a GPU crash or two by now | 18:02 |
| wilee-nilee | otend, Both installs no upgrades, many possible variables. | 18:03 |
| otend | probably, yes | 18:03 |
| otend | I think it's a small thing within the versions, from 12.10 that was backported to 12.04 | 18:04 |
| wilee-nilee | lol " probably, yes" ;) | 18:04 |
| hachre | it's vey small | 18:04 |
| otend | which seems to have been a bug fix for most, but constant crashes for me | 18:04 |
| otend | or, at least, implies it was a bug fix for most | 18:04 |
| hachre | SonikkuAmerica: http://hachre.de/forumhost/ubuntu/libudev0_175-0ubuntu19_amd64.deb | 18:05 |
| otend | still, other than some very minor issues, I've been having a nice, smooth experience so far | 18:05 |
| otend | it's shaping up quite well | 18:05 |
| bjsnider | theoretically gpu drivers should be getting more and more stable over time | 18:07 |
| genii-around | The key word being "theoretically" | 18:08 |
| sary | am trying to unmount (safely remove) my exteirnal hdd from the devices section in nautilus , is this normal! http://imgur.com/AYu5L66 | 18:08 |
| hachre | sary: I don't see anything abnormal there | 18:09 |
| sary | when i rright-click the ejact button the trash message shows instead of the submenu for options. | 18:12 |
| benmoose | At any rate, udev needs back into Raring's main repos, or else a lot of ChromE users are about to get wiped. | 18:12 |
| === benmoose is now known as SonikkuAmerica | ||
| SonikkuAmerica | I'm benmoose. Apparently I force-closed XChat when I restarted. | 18:13 |
| hachre | SonikkuAmerica: hi | 18:13 |
| hachre | SonikkuAmerica: http://hachre.de/forumhost/ubuntu/libudev0_175-0ubuntu19_amd64.deb | 18:13 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Good to go. Processing normally. Any way to get that upstream? | 18:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Thanks btw | 18:15 |
| hachre | np, no idea why it is gone... maybe it has been replaced and google has to drop the dependency | 18:17 |
| hachre | or maybe it needs a transitinoal dummy package | 18:17 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: there are a couple bugs about it, although one is marked fixed, so it might just be a debian packaging issue: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=145160 | 18:17 |
| trism | SonikkuAmerica: the bugs are for other distros of course (suse/fedora) | 18:17 |
| SonikkuAmerica | But still, libudev0 is needed to provide the .so.0 file. | 18:18 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (At least in Debian/Ubuntu) | 18:18 |
| qengho | SonikkuAmerica: what was your question? | 18:33 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I had an issue with Chrome not installing due to libudev0 (libudev.so.0) missing. We fixed it with hachre's version of udev. | 18:34 |
| qengho | SonikkuAmerica: chrome or ubutu chromium? | 18:34 |
| SonikkuAmerica | (Google) Chrome. | 18:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Chromium works fine, but I need Chrome for March Madness Live | 18:35 |
| SonikkuAmerica | 'cuz of the Flash Player version. | 18:35 |
| qengho | Ah. | 18:35 |
| === knitt1 is now known as knittl | ||
| SonikkuAmerica | And besides, if companies continue using Flash, Chrome will be the only viable browser for Linux machines after 2016. | 18:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | At least YouTube will still be usable (HTML5 will hopefully be in a more perfect state by then) | 18:38 |
| qengho | SonikkuAmerica: are you using the internal "Pepper" flash, or a plugin for Flash? | 18:39 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Pepper Flash (still getting the multicolored spots). (Chromium uses the Flash plugin, of course) | 18:40 |
| hachre | is there any way currently to play videos on the web, i dont care with what or how, but with 3d acceleration? | 18:58 |
| hachre | i have minitube for youtube which works great, but thats just for youtube.. | 18:59 |
| johnjohn101 | seems like 3.5 weeks to release is taking forever | 19:51 |
| genii-around | johnjohn101: The last hours in #ubuntu-release-party seem to last for days | 19:53 |
| bazhang | hehe | 19:54 |
| johnjohn101 | i personally can't wait until QT unity and mir. | 19:54 |
| bazhang | eons even | 19:54 |
| johnjohn101 | this is looking like another nice solid release. still can't believe they wanted to futz with the current model. but considering i don't pay anything, it's ok | 19:56 |
| FernandoMiguel | hey | 20:59 |
| FernandoMiguel | and after over 2 months | 20:59 |
| FernandoMiguel | the gsettings bug seems to have been fixed | 20:59 |
| FernandoMiguel | we will see how long I manage to be online :D | 20:59 |
| boldfilter | Could you use an older version of gnome-panel from 12.10 on 13.04 | 21:07 |
| FernandoMiguel | boldfilter: because of the notify area? | 21:08 |
| boldfilter | ApplicationPlaces | 21:09 |
| boldfilter | --no space | 21:09 |
| boldfilter | See | 21:13 |
| boldfilter | https://www.dropbox.com/s/r6fdzjwtpl1cyby/NoSpace.png | 21:13 |
| FernandoMiguel | humm | 21:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | I have nothing like that | 21:14 |
| boldfilter | Really? | 21:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | isn't global menu supposed to replace that? | 21:14 |
| boldfilter | Oh, this is classic | 21:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | AH | 21:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | can't comment | 21:14 |
| FernandoMiguel | stock unity here | 21:14 |
| boldfilter | I like to use Docky so I use it | 21:17 |
| FernandoMiguel | I loved gnome-do | 21:17 |
| FernandoMiguel | still do :) | 21:17 |
| FernandoMiguel | but unity conflicted too much with it | 21:17 |
| === azend_ is now known as azend | ||
| Malgorath | Are there any beta releases we can d/l yet of 13.04? | 21:58 |
| === Atlantic777 is now known as elerac_atlantic7 | ||
| k1l | sure | 21:59 |
| boldfilter | $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 21:59 |
| === elerac_atlantic7 is now known as elerac_atlantic | ||
| Malgorath | I have a new system i was going to install so its not got any OS on it yet to upgrade with, was hoping for an ISO but I'll just go 12.10 for now then | 22:00 |
| === elerac_atlantic is now known as Atlantic777 | ||
| k1l | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ | 22:01 |
| Malgorath | thanks k1l | 22:02 |
| === sary_ is now known as sary | ||
| Elfin | i have some questions about raring ringtail | 23:48 |
| Elfin | why is unity not included? | 23:49 |
| IdleOne | who said it wasn't? | 23:51 |
| IdleOne | Ubuntu comes with the Unity shell. | 23:51 |
| Elfin | hmm.. i'm confised then. i seem to only have gnome | 23:52 |
| IdleOne | Did you download Ubuntu GNOME? | 23:52 |
| Elfin | i've installed from the 28 Mar daily build and ran all updates. and no, this is basically stock ubuntu | 23:52 |
| IdleOne | where are you getting the iso? | 23:53 |
| Elfin | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ | 23:53 |
| Elfin | I happen to be downloading the Apr 2 daily build now | 23:53 |
| k1l | whats the .iso called you downloaded? | 23:53 |
| IdleOne | those should be the default ubuntu | 23:54 |
| Elfin | raring-desktop-amd64.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 23:54 |
| Elfin | when logging in, i see the gnome greeter (if thats the name for it) not the unity greeter, and I only have GNOME under session | 23:55 |
| Elfin | i installed unity from the software center and it worked fine except i'm missing the themes. I'm forced to use unity with the gnome theme | 23:58 |
| k1l | are you sure you didnt slip to the ubuntu-gnome dailies? | 23:58 |
| Elfin | i'm positive | 23:59 |
| Elfin | i guess my only hope would be to reinstall from the apr 2 daily im downloading now | 23:59 |
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