[00:00] try to update the archive , then see if there is available package upgrade. [00:00] which command you've used to install the .deb file! [00:02] another thing to check , are you sure you're trying to install the correct architecture for your system! [00:05] is split pane viewing acailable still i Nautilus? [00:30] duanedesign, no [00:48] hello [00:49] hi [00:49] I have a question about my wifi, I am not sure if I should ask here or regular ubuntu channel but I am using 13.04 [00:51] basically, my wifi is still working just fine, but today it seems that I have to wait bout a minute after it boots to connect to my router, and I am wondering if that might be part of the 'joy' of the pre-release [00:51] it used to be connected as soon as I booted [00:53] am I in the wrong channel for tech support? === Guest53169 is now known as KernelSandurs [00:53] you might check dmesg while that's happening to see if there's anything being spammed in there [00:54] ok, I am not sure where to find dmesg logs [00:55] /var/log [00:56] thank you [00:57] I suspect this might also not be ubuntu's fault at all, I know I made a change to my network yesterday - I took my main PC off wired and put in wifi. [00:57] thanks bjsnider for the answer, despite my bad english typing [00:58] could that possibly cause my laptop to detect the network slower? [01:00] I know almost nothing about how to read a dmesg log, but I didn't see anything that looked like an obvious problem [01:00] will, what changes you've made .. and also is this the first time you noiced the delay , or did it ever happend on a different ubuntu release with the same NIC chipt! [01:02] well, this laptop is the only machine running xubuntu consistantly, and I started with 12.10 and then upgraded to 13.04 after about a week of 12.10, that was about a month ago [01:02] so in short, no I have not tested with any other releases or hardware, I am kinda really thinking this is somehow caused by the network change, but that just seems strange that adding 1 pc would make that much difference [01:03] I suppose I will have to investigate this more thoroughly when I am in a mood to crawl around under my desk to mess with the cables [01:06] Is there a rolling release of Ubuntu? I remember a thread where someone said something about 13.04 being a rolling release === nooneinstores is now known as airbander [03:34] hey guys have any of yall tried i3 on ubuntu [03:34] lightdm refuses to start it for some reason im in tty right now [03:53] hey did anyone see my previous comment [03:53] i rebooted [04:08] wtf [04:08] this channel is dead [09:17] Hi all [09:18] Anyone know how to get Unity Web Apps working with Chromium? [09:18] I'm getting prompted inconsistently, and in the end... nothing happens :-/ [09:18] Sorry, this is in Raring (not Quantal) [10:43] Hi. I can't seem to use icecc with raring. [10:43] * Starting distributed compiler daemon iceccd start-stop-daemon: unable to open pidfile '/var/run/icecc/iceccd.pid' for writing (No such file or directory) [10:43] [fail] [10:50] steveire, does /var/run/icecc/ exist? [10:50] zAo^: Nope [10:50] create it then ;) [10:52] Hmm, that at least seems to get me onto the icecream network (I see myself in icemon), but I don't seem to be actually compiling through the network [10:53] stephen@hal:~/dev/build/qtbase-ns/qtbase-ns$ which g++ [10:53] /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ [10:53] stephen@hal:~/dev/build/qtbase-ns/qtbase-ns$ ll /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ [10:53] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 17 16:33 /usr/lib/icecc/bin//g++ -> ../../../bin/icecc* [11:24] "Morning all === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === ZarroBoogs is now known as Pici [12:36] installed the 310.14 experimental driver on Kubuntu 13.04 , but the 304.84 nvidia-current driver leaves the kernel module behind after the 310 install is finished and rebooted creating an API mismatch upon rebooting . Had to do a dpkg -r nvidia-304 to remove the left overs . The 310 kernel module / driver now boot into the OS just fine. Jockey isn't cleaning the old kernel module / drivers out whm installing the new driver [12:36] . [12:40] i installed the 313 and it boots up to the 313 module just fine [12:41] k1l: don't think my card can handle the 313 [12:42] the 310.14 is about as bleeding edge my 8400GS can handle [12:42] got a 8600 gt m [12:43] are you using the first experimental driver at the top of the list in jockey ? [12:44] i did use the 310 experimental at 12.10. that was the first entry in 13.04 [12:45] just switched to the 313 some days ago. didnt had any püroblems with the 310 before [12:45] the 8400gs driver recommended for linux on nvidia's site is the 310.40 , which isn't available in jockey for my card afaik [12:48] unfortunately jockey doesn't give the driver numbers , just a name , so it's hard to tell what's being listed as experimental [12:48] jockey lists the numbers for me [12:48] BluesKaj: but you can install the nvidia drivers with apt. so you know exactly what to install [12:49] unity eh, I'm a KDE guy , that probly expalins it [12:49] yeah. im on unity [12:50] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&searchon=names&keywords=nvidia is the list of available nvidia stuff [12:50] k1l: yeah I should have thought of that first ...not enough coffee yet this morning :) [12:51] i still use synaptic for refernceing packages , should have looked up the drivers first [12:56] k1l: something odd , the 310 driver also installs the 313 settings updates , not the 310 settings updates [12:56] hmm [12:57] anticipating a nvidia driver upgrade i guess [13:14] when opening nautilus on unity it seems to restart unity :/ [13:28] BluesKaj, the 313 will drive your card [13:28] all hardware prior to the geforce 8 was dropped, but you have a geforce 8 [13:30] bjsnider: nvidia's site recommends the 310.44 driver , and the 313 driver isn't listed in synaptic , but I can check again [13:32] bjsnider: there's no nvidia-313 driver listed in synaptic , only the dev , updates, and settings updates [13:33] ok, it's in xorg-edgers because it's still beta, but i assure you it will drive your hardware [13:34] updates-dev rather [13:34] the ppa , ok [13:35] altho , the 310 seems to be doing fine atm [13:35] look for nvidia-313-updates === murthy_ is now known as murthy [13:35] it's there [13:38] i expect users with old junk will be left on the nvidia-304 series and newer stuff will be on the 310 by the end of the raring cycle [13:39] had to remove the nvidia-304 with dpkg -r in the tty..leftover modules created an API confict with the new 310 driver [13:41] they both create nvidia.ko, so i don't see how they could coexist [13:49] i am using 13.04 and I have noticed that when I double click a script that has executable rights, I don't get promted to run it (that's what happen in 12.10). is this a bug? [14:00] ok bjsnider here goes , installing nvidia-313 as we speak [14:00] lemme know if the same thing happens that happened with the move from 304>310 [14:03] well I can remve the 310 module if need be [14:03] yes but if it happens again i want you to submitteth a buggeth [14:32] ok bjsnider nvidia 313.26 successfully installed , no glitches or bugs needeth be reporteth [14:32] that's no fun [14:33] well did some cleaning house before rebooting auttoremove /autoclean etc [14:41] bjsnider: what's the better setting in desktop effects , native or raster , or does unity even give the option? [14:42] dunno how much Qt is used on ubuntu [14:42] desktop effects? [14:44] yeah kwin , not compiz [14:45] ask someone who knows something about kwin [14:47] ok , just figureed you might have heard some comments about it [14:48] i have some comments about it, but i can't say them in here [14:49] hehe ok , to each his own === ritz_ is now known as ritz|ud [14:54] glxgears isn't very smooth ...herky jerky , was nice and smooth with the 310 driver :P === afoo is now known as avu [16:18] hi all, has anyone else experienced a broken /usr/sbin/python during the release upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04? [16:20] i had to remove package "nscd" and then install the new version of the "libc6" package to be able to continue. [16:27] There seems to be no way to install Google Chrome in 13.04 Beta 1 due to the absence of libudev0 === murthy is now known as murthy_ [17:34] SonikkuAmerica: hi , what's wrong with Chromium! [17:35] sary, I don't think it is being maintained is it? [17:37] ? [17:37] why do I have a 1 === hachre1 is now known as hachre [17:38] why should Chromium not be maintained?? [17:40] latest version is 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3 sounds quite up to date to me [17:44] One second... I'm getting out of a class [17:45] wilee-nilee: hi :) sure it is, there i also PPA's for it ( stable,daily builds ) . [17:46] (btw my issue is with the Google Chrome .deb, not with ChromIUM) [17:46] SonikkuAmerica: where do you get that deb from? [17:47] current versions are 26.x for final, 26.x for beta and 27.x for dev... the 25->26. switch in final happened very recently [17:47] sary, the stable and daily were last loaded in 5-12-2012 ans 4-12-2012 [17:47] hachre: Google's web site (using google-chrome-stable) [17:48] I'm using their ppa, but I'm using unstable [17:48] but it tells me [17:48] google-chrome-stable is 26.0.1410.43-r189671 [17:49] which is perfectly up to date [17:49] One second. [17:49] deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main [17:49] that's what im using [17:50] Here's the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5671167/ [17:51] I would look in the PPA's as far as last loads I believe none are really current, which does not necessarily matter it is a personal choice. [17:51] Stupid pastebinit pipe didn't copy what was important... [17:54] Here's what really shows up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5671181/ [17:55] So why don't you install libudev [17:55] 0 [17:56] yeah installed in my 12.04 setup [17:56] 175-0ubuntu19 is current in raring [17:57] 9.3 in precise [17:57] I have 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3 [17:57] in raring. [17:58] it seems libudev0 was deleted a few hours ago, probably the issue [17:58] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/amd64/libudev0 [17:58] since we have libudev1 now [17:58] OK, I'm back [17:59] wb [17:59] i was saying [17:59] why don't you install libudev0 then [17:59] because it is not in the archive anymore... [17:59] It won't install: "has no installation candidate" [17:59] oh [17:59] that must be very new [18:00] i only installed this raring two days ago [18:00] and it worked then [18:00] 17 hours ago [18:00] ok [18:00] well you can have my deb if you want ;D [18:00] i got 175-0ubuntu19 [18:00] You could DCC it [18:00] ill upload it [18:00] to my server [18:00] sec [18:01] whoops [18:02] you don't really need to do that, it is still on launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/175-0ubuntu19 click on builds [18:02] well, this is strange. 13.04 is more stable than 12.04 LTS on my setup. [18:02] I'd usually have a GPU crash or two by now [18:03] otend, Both installs no upgrades, many possible variables. [18:03] probably, yes [18:04] I think it's a small thing within the versions, from 12.10 that was backported to 12.04 [18:04] lol " probably, yes" ;) [18:04] it's vey small [18:04] which seems to have been a bug fix for most, but constant crashes for me [18:04] or, at least, implies it was a bug fix for most [18:05] SonikkuAmerica: http://hachre.de/forumhost/ubuntu/libudev0_175-0ubuntu19_amd64.deb [18:05] still, other than some very minor issues, I've been having a nice, smooth experience so far [18:05] it's shaping up quite well [18:07] theoretically gpu drivers should be getting more and more stable over time [18:08] The key word being "theoretically" [18:08] am trying to unmount (safely remove) my exteirnal hdd from the devices section in nautilus , is this normal! http://imgur.com/AYu5L66 [18:09] sary: I don't see anything abnormal there [18:12] when i rright-click the ejact button the trash message shows instead of the submenu for options. [18:12] At any rate, udev needs back into Raring's main repos, or else a lot of ChromE users are about to get wiped. === benmoose is now known as SonikkuAmerica [18:13] I'm benmoose. Apparently I force-closed XChat when I restarted. [18:13] SonikkuAmerica: hi [18:13] SonikkuAmerica: http://hachre.de/forumhost/ubuntu/libudev0_175-0ubuntu19_amd64.deb [18:15] Good to go. Processing normally. Any way to get that upstream? [18:15] Thanks btw [18:17] np, no idea why it is gone... maybe it has been replaced and google has to drop the dependency [18:17] or maybe it needs a transitinoal dummy package [18:17] SonikkuAmerica: there are a couple bugs about it, although one is marked fixed, so it might just be a debian packaging issue: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=145160 [18:17] SonikkuAmerica: the bugs are for other distros of course (suse/fedora) [18:18] But still, libudev0 is needed to provide the .so.0 file. [18:18] (At least in Debian/Ubuntu) [18:33] SonikkuAmerica: what was your question? [18:34] I had an issue with Chrome not installing due to libudev0 (libudev.so.0) missing. We fixed it with hachre's version of udev. [18:34] SonikkuAmerica: chrome or ubutu chromium? [18:35] (Google) Chrome. [18:35] Chromium works fine, but I need Chrome for March Madness Live [18:35] 'cuz of the Flash Player version. [18:35] Ah. === knitt1 is now known as knittl [18:36] And besides, if companies continue using Flash, Chrome will be the only viable browser for Linux machines after 2016. [18:38] At least YouTube will still be usable (HTML5 will hopefully be in a more perfect state by then) [18:39] SonikkuAmerica: are you using the internal "Pepper" flash, or a plugin for Flash? [18:40] Pepper Flash (still getting the multicolored spots). (Chromium uses the Flash plugin, of course) [18:58] is there any way currently to play videos on the web, i dont care with what or how, but with 3d acceleration? [18:59] i have minitube for youtube which works great, but thats just for youtube.. [19:51] seems like 3.5 weeks to release is taking forever [19:53] johnjohn101: The last hours in #ubuntu-release-party seem to last for days [19:54] hehe [19:54] i personally can't wait until QT unity and mir. [19:54] eons even [19:56] this is looking like another nice solid release. still can't believe they wanted to futz with the current model. but considering i don't pay anything, it's ok [20:59] hey [20:59] and after over 2 months [20:59] the gsettings bug seems to have been fixed [20:59] we will see how long I manage to be online :D [21:07] Could you use an older version of gnome-panel from 12.10 on 13.04 [21:08] boldfilter: because of the notify area? [21:09] ApplicationPlaces [21:09] --no space [21:13] See [21:13] https://www.dropbox.com/s/r6fdzjwtpl1cyby/NoSpace.png [21:14] humm [21:14] I have nothing like that [21:14] Really? [21:14] isn't global menu supposed to replace that? [21:14] Oh, this is classic [21:14] AH [21:14] can't comment [21:14] stock unity here [21:17] I like to use Docky so I use it [21:17] I loved gnome-do [21:17] still do :) [21:17] but unity conflicted too much with it === azend_ is now known as azend [21:58] Are there any beta releases we can d/l yet of 13.04? === Atlantic777 is now known as elerac_atlantic7 [21:59] sure [21:59] $ sudo do-release-upgrade -d === elerac_atlantic7 is now known as elerac_atlantic [22:00] I have a new system i was going to install so its not got any OS on it yet to upgrade with, was hoping for an ISO but I'll just go 12.10 for now then === elerac_atlantic is now known as Atlantic777 [22:01] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ [22:02] thanks k1l === sary_ is now known as sary [23:48] i have some questions about raring ringtail [23:49] why is unity not included? [23:51] who said it wasn't? [23:51] Ubuntu comes with the Unity shell. [23:52] hmm.. i'm confised then. i seem to only have gnome [23:52] Did you download Ubuntu GNOME? [23:52] i've installed from the 28 Mar daily build and ran all updates. and no, this is basically stock ubuntu [23:53] where are you getting the iso? [23:53] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ [23:53] I happen to be downloading the Apr 2 daily build now [23:53] whats the .iso called you downloaded? [23:54] those should be the default ubuntu [23:54] raring-desktop-amd64.iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [23:55] when logging in, i see the gnome greeter (if thats the name for it) not the unity greeter, and I only have GNOME under session [23:58] i installed unity from the software center and it worked fine except i'm missing the themes. I'm forced to use unity with the gnome theme [23:58] are you sure you didnt slip to the ubuntu-gnome dailies? [23:59] i'm positive [23:59] i guess my only hope would be to reinstall from the apr 2 daily im downloading now