[06:12] <r4y> Hello, I am running lubuntu and flash is working but it has gecko as well
[06:12] <r4y> duandesign
[06:13] <r4y> I am wanting to setup Ubuntu Lucid so that it has the same setup Lubuntu has if possible but I think Lubuntu does have totem so
[06:13] <r4y> doesn't have I meant
[06:15] <r4y> I am trying to take a screenshot, I tried the print screen key but nothing happened and I couldn't find take a screen shot, so I guess I might have to install something
[06:15] <r4y> AH, I see
[06:16] <r4y> It automatically takes screenshots when that key is tapped and put into the home folder
[06:16] <r4y> neat
[06:19] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/252495
[06:19] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/252496
[06:19] <r4y> http://imagebin.org/252497
[06:37] <r4y> I am going to take the installed files of gecko and put them in lucid lynx and take out flash 10.3 to see if that will work, but from what I have gathered totem might get in the way, so then I will have to disable totem in Firefox and not un-install totem
[06:37] <r4y> I will be back
[07:42] <duanedesign> hi ry
[08:55] <r4y> Hello, I am looking for a package called libgmlib0 1.0.5-1 which lubuntu has but ubuntu 10.04 doesn't
[08:57] <r4y> I am wondering why gecko doesn't work for Ubuntu 10.04 and does for lubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso, maybe I should have tried Ubuntu 12.04 with Gecko but when I tried booting Ubuntu 12.04 through an iso file I have it was really really really slow
[08:57] <r4y> but Ubuntu 12.04 installed from usb was fine whenI tried it
[09:19] <r4y> I am lost, how can I get the gecko plugin to work with Firefox with Ubuntu 10.04.4 ?
[09:20] <r4y> Ah, I forgot that Lubuntu has Firefox 11
[09:21] <r4y> I have Firefox 18 on this setup of Ubuntu 10.04
[09:21] <r4y> I am not sure still but what ever
[09:24] <r4y> OK, it works I think
[09:42] <r4y> I am confused, I don't know why but there are no plugins in the filesystem but youtube video are playable, haha crazy, I don't know what's going on
[09:42] <r4y> I should do another search again for something before saying that
[09:55] <r4y> I've undone everything I think of that I did, except this command sudo ldconfig, so unless Ubuntu took a plugin I dropped into the filesystem and somehow put somewhere else with a different name, but I would know what's going in anyway it's sliced
[10:01] <r4y> OK, I didn't realize it but I was watching an html5 video, I am going to leave sorry for flooding, bye
[10:50] <isiah> morning all
[18:15] <soul108> anyone there?
[19:16] <stevew007uk> Hi, I want to dual boot my windows 8 machine with ubuntu but am worried that grub will not load windows 8 after the ubuntu install, any words of advice?
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> !uefi
[19:24] <stevew007uk> thanks for the reply, I am using a UEFI laptop, I'll have a readof that article
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> stevew007uk, Cool make sure you have windows backed up no matter what you can save images at least once on a OEM install, and many in  the pro version to ultimate.
[19:27] <stevew007uk> thanks wilee, I'm not that used to windows 8, I have recovery disks burnt for my laptop are these what you refer to?
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> stevew007uk, Cool, and the ubuntu forums besides here have some daily helpers and a ton of threads with people installing and questions, good luck and enjoy. ;)
[19:28] <stevew007uk> just to explain, I have used ubuntu for about 3 years but my last machine came with it pre-installed. I have installed in on other machines since but never dual boot
[19:29] <stevew007uk> but even though I prefer ubuntu to win 8, my family prefer win 8, hence the desire to dual boot!
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> stevew007uk, Excellent you are a great candidate for understanding the installs. I am with msdos setups and dual booting I have % OS's on my one SSD drive, but am clueless on UEFI/
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> %=5
[19:30] <stevew007uk> Cool, you sound like a distro hopper like me! I cant understand this UEFI much though, prefer BIOS!
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> hehe you don't have to justify the windows use the ubuntu community is full of people dual booting and many understand the concept of there are OS for specific situations that are more applicable to a users needs. WE have out fanboi's so does windows, but they are easy to spot. ;)
[19:35] <stevew007uk> cheers wilee, I'll do some more research and become brave and go for it, I can always recover the laptop back to windows if I chicken out!
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> I have run every major distro except any bsd, and many small ones, it has been an interesting adventure on returning to college at middle age having never used a computer, and the first one I purchased was from mom-profit computer refurbisher that sends them out with the latest Ubuntu LTS.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> n0n*
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> non* Doh
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> Yeah enjoy. ;)
[19:36] <stevew007uk> Cheers, looking forward to full speed ubuntu instead of the virtual box version.
[19:36] <stevew007uk> Thanks for your help
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> no problem, is my pleasure.
[19:40] <isiah> good deed of the day, right wilee-nilee
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> lol, I try at my best to give pertinent info, however fail often. ;)
[22:05] <L2_Alan> Hi All
[22:06] <isiah> hi L2_Alan
[22:06] <L2_Alan> I have some issues after installing latest version of Ubuntu
[22:06] <L2_Alan> Most likely due to some beginner mistakes ;)
[22:06] <L2_Alan> Anyhow
[22:07] <L2_Alan> I had a Windows xp installation with multiple partitions and multiple boot options
[22:07] <L2_Alan> I chose to use one for the Ubuntu install
[22:07] <L2_Alan> During install I created partitions and chose a larger one for /boot and a small one for /root
[22:08] <L2_Alan> so after a short while I had a problem with free space :D
[22:08] <isiah> and that brings us today?
[22:08] <L2_Alan> Thus I downloaded gparted and created a live usb and did some resizing and here the issues start
[22:09] <L2_Alan> I ended up having 3 partitions that I wanted to use for /home
[22:09] <L2_Alan> I learned that was not possible so I want to load them permanently on a few directories
[22:09] <L2_Alan> I added some lines to fstab (after some research but that does not seem to do the trick
[22:10] <L2_Alan> although ... they are mounted now in the correct directory but not during boot
[22:10] <L2_Alan> I have to click on a disk icon and then they are mounted
[22:10] <L2_Alan> any way to automate that
[22:11] <L2_Alan> This is what I added to fstab
[22:11] <isiah> automating mounting?
[22:11] <L2_Alan> # sda9 is 60GB
[22:11] <L2_Alan> UUID=718426a3-6768-4aef-89c2-e617afcf5240 /home/alain/Documents btrfs defaults 0 2
[22:11] <L2_Alan> # sda10 is 6GB
[22:11] <L2_Alan> UUID=78ad15bb-414c-465d-bc7e-9d779d0ae1c6 /home/alain/tmp btrfs defaults 0 2
[22:11] <L2_Alan> UUID=EE54D3BA54D3842D /home/alain/Data1 ntfs defaults 0 0
[22:11] <L2_Alan> UUID=01CC2983071DCD70 /home/alain/Data2 ntfs defaults 0 0
[22:11] <L2_Alan> I expected that to take care of things
[22:11] <isiah> yeah you can automount
[22:11] <L2_Alan> but ......helas no
[22:12] <L2_Alan> can you tell me what is wrong in these lines ?
[22:12] <L2_Alan> why are the volumes not automounted
[22:12] <L2_Alan> the last two are from my Windows partitions that I would like to access
[22:13] <isiah> when the computer boots do you see any messages about mount failing?
[22:13] <L2_Alan> no
[22:13] <L2_Alan> I just get 4 drive icons
[22:13] <L2_Alan> when I click them, they mount without problems
[22:13] <L2_Alan> when I go to Documents, I go to the correct volume
[22:14] <isiah> when your computer boots up does it normally show a lot of details or just splashscreens?
[22:14] <L2_Alan> so all is working fine .............. but not during boot
[22:14] <L2_Alan> no details
[22:14] <L2_Alan> just the splashscreens
[22:14] <isiah> ok, can you mount these partitions from the command line?
[22:15] <L2_Alan> if I umount them and then type mount -a it works
[22:15] <L2_Alan> I think, let me try :)
[22:16] <L2_Alan> well I've umounted 3 now, one is busy (logical my /Documents folder
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda1                   ntfs        TinyData     (not mounted)                   EE54D3BA54D3842D
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda4                   ntfs        HP_RECOVERY  (not mounted)                   01CC2945F97972B0
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda5                   ntfs        Data         (not mounted)                   01CC2983071DCD70
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda6                   swap                     <swap>                          61a1fcd7-b874-4428-82cc-b0fbd9541e0f
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda7                   btrfs                    (not mounted)                   f64730cf-ad0c-4e43-bdca-ddc31d8bd3ae
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda8                   ext4                     /boot                           582f9f30-76e5-40f7-b616-3b4a0923f7f8
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda9                   btrfs                    (not mounted)                   718426a3-6768-4aef-89c2-e617afcf5240
[22:17] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda10                  btrfs                    (not mounted)                   78ad15bb-414c-465d-bc7e-9d779d0ae1c6
[22:17] <L2_Alan> blkid -o list
[22:18] <L2_Alan> hmm sudo mount -a did not work
[22:18] <isiah> ok do the log files show them mounting before?
[22:18] <isiah> grep mount /var/log/dmesg
[22:18] <L2_Alan> strange because blkid shows not mounted but they are mounted now
[22:19] <isiah> I have never enjoyed guis, it might be better to stick to the comman line here
[22:21] <isiah> ahh, I take that back use grep mount /var/log/boot
[22:22] <L2_Alan> ok
[22:22] <L2_Alan> let's see
[22:23] <L2_Alan> hmm
[22:23] <L2_Alan> I'm quite new to this
[22:24] <L2_Alan> like this ? cat /var/log/boot | grep ...something
[22:24] <isiah> so are we all, so if you look at that boot you should see something about failure to mount. Correct?
[22:25] <isiah> no make it simple
[22:25] <isiah> cd /var/log
[22:25] <isiah> su
[22:25] <isiah> grep mount boot.log
[22:25] <L2_Alan> nothing
[22:26] <isiah> were you root?
[22:27] <L2_Alan> yes
[22:27] <isiah> so literally no text at all?
[22:28] <L2_Alan> root@alain-HP-Compaq-dc5700-Small-Form-Factor:/var/log# grep mount boot.log
[22:28] <L2_Alan> root@alain-HP-Compaq-dc5700-Small-Form-Factor:/var/log#
[22:28] <isiah> type
[22:28] <L2_Alan> now you know what computer I have :)
[22:28] <isiah> head boot.log
[22:28] <isiah> any text now?
[22:28] <L2_Alan> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:28] <L2_Alan> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:28] <L2_Alan> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:28] <L2_Alan> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:28] <L2_Alan> fsck from util-linux 2.20.1
[22:28] <L2_Alan> Btrfs Btrfs v0.19
[22:28] <L2_Alan> Btrfs Btrfs v0.19
[22:28] <L2_Alan> Btrfs Btrfs v0.19
[22:28] <L2_Alan> Btrfs Btrfs v0.19
[22:28] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda8: clean, 268/81920 files, 56916/327423 blocks
[22:29] <isiah> ok good, it is writing to the boot.log. not sure why nothing is being written about the mounts through
[22:30] <isiah> i am going to assume grep failed in some way, can you open it with a text editor and using something like cntrl+f to find the text about mount?
[22:30] <L2_Alan> sure
[22:32] <L2_Alan> I'm using gedit now
[22:32] <L2_Alan> no entries on boot
[22:32] <L2_Alan> the lines I just copied are the only ones regarding the volumes
[22:33] <isiah> ok, my assumption was wrong try this instead
[22:33] <isiah> grep mount dmesg
[22:33] <L2_Alan> strange, now the blkid lists the partitions again in use
[22:33] <L2_Alan> ok
[22:34] <L2_Alan> [   23.826600] EXT4-fs (sda8): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[22:34] <L2_Alan> that's all
[22:34] <isiah> so it found sda8, does that mean anything to you?
[22:34] <L2_Alan> yes
[22:34] <L2_Alan> a small leftover on the disk that is assigned a partition
[22:35] <isiah> :/
[22:35] <L2_Alan> 1GB or 512MB I think
[22:35] <L2_Alan> was not planning on using that
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda7        19G  4.5G   13G  27% /
[22:35] <L2_Alan> udev            490M   12K  490M   1% /dev
[22:35] <L2_Alan> tmpfs           199M  920K  199M   1% /run
[22:35] <L2_Alan> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[22:35] <L2_Alan> none            498M  3.1M  495M   1% /run/shm
[22:35] <L2_Alan> none            100M   68K  100M   1% /run/user
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda7        19G  4.5G   13G  27% /home
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda8       1.3G  203M  993M  17% /boot
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda9        64G   20G   41G  33% /home/alain/Documents
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda10      6.2G  120K  5.6G   1% /home/alain/tmp
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda1        65G   57G  8.0G  88% /home/alain/Data1
[22:35] <isiah> my temptation to tell you to set your hd on fire and restart from scratch grows by the moment
[22:35] <L2_Alan> /dev/sda5       298G  212G   87G  71% /home/alain/Data2
[22:35] <isiah> haha
[22:35] <L2_Alan> haha
[22:35] <L2_Alan> yes
[22:36] <L2_Alan> I would if it weren't for my 2nd problem :)
[22:36] <isiah> which is?
[22:36] <L2_Alan> grub does not boot my windows :(
[22:36] <L2_Alan> I was thinking the same, you know - removing all the partitions and just start from scratch
[22:37] <isiah> do you have the original windows install disc?
[22:37] <L2_Alan> no
[22:37] <L2_Alan> pre-installed on the disk
[22:37] <L2_Alan> and if I use that, all gets erased
[22:37] <L2_Alan> isn't live nice
[22:37] <isiah> so you can recover windows?
[22:37] <L2_Alan> no
[22:37] <L2_Alan> it will do complete factory restore
[22:37] <L2_Alan> I could do a backup first
[22:38] <L2_Alan> or maybe get my hands on a windows cd and they do a MBR RESTORE
[22:38] <isiah> were you running two distros of windows?
[22:38] <L2_Alan> yes
[22:38] <isiah> ok now its becoming a bit clearer
[22:38] <L2_Alan> long story ;)
[22:39] <isiah> so, at what point did grub lose windows contact?
[22:39] <L2_Alan> well it starts Windows
[22:39] <L2_Alan> but then windows crashes
[22:39] <isiah> but?
[22:39] <L2_Alan> like it reads the files slightly off
[22:39] <isiah> this occurred after you sharnk its partiion correct?
[22:39] <L2_Alan> no
[22:39] <L2_Alan> right from the start
[22:40] <L2_Alan> I think it's a Windows thing
[22:40] <isiah> wait it always did this but you sharnk the windows parition anyway?
[22:40] <L2_Alan> something with the boot sector of the disk
[22:40] <L2_Alan> I did not touch the Windows partitions
[22:40] <isiah> ok
[22:40] <L2_Alan> and I can mount them without problems from linux
[22:40] <L2_Alan> well Ubuntu :) better get used to that one
[22:41] <L2_Alan> anyhow I can read all the info
[22:41] <isiah> so...grub still sees the windows paritions but they are unstable when ran?
[22:41] <L2_Alan> from Windows
[22:41] <L2_Alan> they are plenty stable from Linux
[22:41] <L2_Alan> I had a similar issue when I installed Windows 7 with multiboot
[22:42] <L2_Alan> had to uninstall Windows 7
[22:42] <L2_Alan> must be a xp thing
[22:42] <isiah> well, from your linux system can you mount the windows system and see its files?
[22:42] <L2_Alan> yes Isiah
[22:42] <L2_Alan> no issues
[22:42] <L2_Alan> I can read docus
[22:42] <L2_Alan> see movies
[22:42] <L2_Alan> whatever
[22:42] <L2_Alan> it's very strange
[22:42] <isiah> ok, in that case I would look into using your linux system to do data recovery on your windows system then wiping the HD
[22:43] <L2_Alan> yes
[22:43] <isiah> at least I would do that at this point
[22:43] <L2_Alan> that is an option
[22:43] <L2_Alan> just a lot of work
[22:43] <L2_Alan> 500gb of data  where to leave it :)
[22:43] <L2_Alan> needs investing in some external disk or so
[22:43] <isiah> nobody put a gun to your head and told you to torrent ;)
[22:43] <L2_Alan> lol
[22:44] <L2_Alan> well if it was just that
[22:44] <isiah> ok, well there are other options
[22:44] <L2_Alan> I would erase in a blink of an eye
[22:44] <L2_Alan> uploading to a web server you mean ?
[22:44] <L2_Alan> is going to take some time
[22:45] <isiah> first off I have no idea how to fix your windows system. I remember once doing something like this to it and put a restore disc in and it fixed it
[22:45] <L2_Alan> I suppose I can try that
[22:45] <isiah> from that point on, you can get your dual windows boot stable
[22:45] <L2_Alan> my worry is that after that linux will not be accessible
[22:45] <isiah> and reinstall linux
[22:45] <L2_Alan> if that does not work then I can't access anything anymore
[22:45] <isiah> yeah the restor disc is going to grab the whole hd
[22:46] <L2_Alan> well if it works - no issue
[22:46] <isiah> well you always have a live ubuntu cd, so if windows restore fails you can just run live, get your data, and try again
[22:46] <L2_Alan> gives me an idea
[22:46] <L2_Alan> if I use the live cd
[22:46] <L2_Alan> and then copy all my windows files
[22:47] <L2_Alan> can I copy them to a non ntfs partition ?
[22:47] <isiah> btw, you might want to look into VMs this multi-boot thing can be a real pain.
[22:47] <isiah> I think so
[22:47] <L2_Alan> well I suppose that 's the way to go then
[22:47] <L2_Alan> start the live cd
[22:48] <L2_Alan> then delete all the linux partitions
[22:48] <L2_Alan> I think the bootloader of Windows is on sda1
[22:48] <L2_Alan> and that is creating the issue I reckon
[22:48] <isiah> how will that fix windows?
[22:48] <L2_Alan> it will not
[22:48] <L2_Alan> but
[22:49] <L2_Alan> then I have free space to copy what I need
[22:49] <L2_Alan> to one big partition
[22:49] <L2_Alan> just delete windows then
[22:49] <L2_Alan> and only install Ubuntu
[22:49] <L2_Alan> this pc is for testing
[22:49] <L2_Alan> although I should have taken a backup of my data somehow :)
[22:49] <isiah> haha why not just burn it all to CD?
[22:50] <L2_Alan> I could use DVD's but still will need about 20 of them, once again a lot of work
[22:50] <L2_Alan> but if that is the only option............
[22:50] <isiah> dont look at me, pretty sure my boss would be pissed about me lending out 500gb on the cluster
[22:51] <L2_Alan> it might have to do something with the hidden partition as well
[22:51] <L2_Alan> (system restore partition)
[22:51] <L2_Alan> oh well you gave me some ideas, thank you
[22:51] <L2_Alan> one more question but then I have to go
[22:51] <L2_Alan> early day tomorrow :)
[22:51] <L2_Alan> my swap partition is not used either
[22:52] <L2_Alan> I have to manually start it using swapon
[22:52] <isiah> no idea
[22:52] <isiah> sorry, its outside my realm
[22:52] <L2_Alan> for playing with Ubuntu one week, I've read quite a bit ;)
[22:52] <L2_Alan> no issues
[22:52] <L2_Alan> out of mine as well
[22:53] <L2_Alan> that's why I'm asking :)
[22:53] <isiah> i would look into vmware, kvm etc I use it at work and it is a lot easier
[22:53] <L2_Alan> well thank you for brainstorming with me
[22:53] <L2_Alan> I'd better go now
[22:53] <isiah> np
[22:53] <L2_Alan> cu around ?
[22:54] <isiah> yeah i am here often
[22:54] <L2_Alan> ok talk to you later
[22:55] <isiah> its work releated so during nyc buisness hours
[22:56] <L2_Alan> ok
[22:56] <L2_Alan> well here it's nearly midnight
[22:56] <L2_Alan> so have to crash
[22:56] <L2_Alan> talk to you later