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jibelgood morning07:02
didrockssalut jibel, ça va?07:03
jibelsalut didrocks! ça va et toi ?07:03
didrocksça va bien :)07:03
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xnoxdidrocks: is lp:bamf actually in the auto-landing mode atm? I have FTBFS fix to upload and I'm not sure if I should do a direct upload + MP or just a MP?10:26
didrocksxnox: it's in auto-landing mode10:27
didrocksxnox: you did fix the test due to new glib?10:27
didrocksxnox: Trevinho was working on it AFAIK10:27
xnox.... i was more about ftbfs due to new gir....10:28
xnoxhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/135635599/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.bamf_0.4.0daily13.03.07-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz10:28
Trevinhodidrocks: I fixed the tests,,,10:28
didrocksTrevinho: ah nice, I didn't spot it in trunk :)10:28
didrocksTrevinho: did you see my and cyphermox's ping?10:28
didrocksTrevinho: about the missing changelog entry, he didn't want to manually publish yesterday because of that10:29
Trevinhodidrocks: I saw the cyphermox one... I thought I had linked the bug actually10:29
didrocksTrevinho: linking is too late once merged10:29
didrocksTrevinho: you need to add a changelog entry then10:29
didrockscyphermox: ^10:29
didrocksthis is clear in the daily release FAQ though :/10:30
Trevinhodidrocks: was it related to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/fix-trunk-compilation-tests/+merge/156049 ? since the other ones have a bugs10:30
didrocksTrevinho: yes10:31
Trevinhodidrocks: ah, I didn't open a bug for that, sorry :/10:31
Trevinhodidrocks: I didn't think it was needed10:31
didrocksTrevinho: seems cyphermox wants a mention in the changelog at least10:31
didrocksas you changed something in the packaging10:31
Trevinhodidrocks: ah, right... I was thinking to that as well10:31
didrocksTrevinho: can you please do that?10:32
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, need a new branch or direct push?10:32
didrocksTrevinho: direct push is fine by me10:32
Trevinhodidrocks: ok10:32
didrocksthen cyphermox can rebuild I guess bamf10:32
didrocksand manually publish it today10:32
Trevinhodidrocks: however.... that sounds weird since I had a bug for https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/class-to-index-file that actually was the one that changed the debian code (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/1161430)10:33
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1161430 in bamf "Bamf index file is not used to store the .desktop class name or the OnlyShowIn parameters" [Medium,New]10:33
Trevinhodidrocks: that's why I didn't change the changelog manually10:33
Trevinhodidrocks: I thought about doing it, but since I had a bug I just linked to it to make your bots to write it10:33
didrocksTrevinho: this bug is in10:33
Trevinhodidrocks: ah, ok10:33
didrocksTrevinho: is it linked to that packaging change? I don't see the link with the gir thing10:34
Trevinhodidrocks: I didn't change anything gir-related in the last days... I only changed the indexer10:34
Trevinhodidrocks: the gir was something older that had a changelong10:35
Trevinhochangelog*10:35
didrocksTrevinho: can you check with him?10:35
Trevinho0.4.0daily12.12.05-0ubuntu210:35
didrockswill be quicker10:35
Trevinhodidrocks: ok10:35
didrocksthan having me being the man in the middle :)10:35
Trevinhodidrocks: you're always the man in the middle... Our security hole! :D10:36
didrocks:p10:36
Trevinhodidrocks: just one thing about changelog... Should I edit the last revision, or adding a new one?10:36
didrocksTrevinho: if the last changing is UNRELEASED, just add an entry to it10:37
didrocksTrevinho: if it's a released one (raring… so on) dch -i and then add an entry10:37
Trevinhodidrocks: it seems relased: bamf (0.4.0daily13.03.07-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low10:38
TrevinhoAutomatic snapshot from revision 52310:38
didrocksTrevinho: yep10:38
didrocksTrevinho: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#I_have_a_big_change_that_needs_to_be_mention_in_debian.2BAC8-changelog.2C_but_not_bug_for_it_.28or_I_didn.27t_link_to_a_bug_before_merging FYI10:43
didrocks(just wrote it)10:43
Trevinhodidrocks: nice, however in my case I did linked it before merging, but that's another story :)10:44
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Trevinhodidrocks: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/bamf/trunk/revision/52810:45
didrocksTrevinho: hum?10:47
didrocksTrevinho: no, that one is not needed10:47
Trevinhodidrocks: I've just added it, is it fine?10:47
didrocksTrevinho: for the linked one10:47
didrocksTrevinho: I guess cyphermox was complaining about   * libbamf: use scanner-flags for introspection, fixes a compilation error.10:47
didrocksthis one was not linked to a bug10:47
didrocksthe others are not needed10:47
Trevinhomh, misunderstanding then -_-10:48
didrocksTrevinho: see https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/cu2d/view/Raring/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-raring-3.0publish/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/packaging_changes_bamf_0.4.0daily13.04.02-0ubuntu1.diff10:48
Trevinhodidrocks: ah, I was not seeing them in trunk...10:49
Trevinhodidrocks: so I just add the libbamf compilation fix to the changelog..10:49
didrocksTrevinho: sounds good :)10:50
Trevinhodidrocks: I keep the debian/bamfdaemon.postinst line though, so that it can be more clear what it changes packaging side...10:51
xnoxyou can reject https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/bamf/fix-ftbfs/+merge/156514 it's not needed.10:54
xnoxfixed in trunk already.10:54
GunnarHjseb128: Hi Seb, can you please take a look at bug 1163142? Think it is an aptdaemon thing, but I'm anything but sure.11:00
ubot2`GunnarHj: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1163142 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163142). The error has been logged11:00
seb128GunnarHj, try maybe asking cjwatson on #ubuntu-devel, that seems like a dpkg (or debconf) issue11:01
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GunnarHjseb128: Ok, I'll try that.11:02
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Sweetsharkseb128: ping?13:06
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seb128Sweetshark, hey13:11
seb128sorry, compiz fail, had to close xchat and restart it to be able to focus it13:11
ogra_use Mir !13:13
xclaessehm, gnome3 ppa does not have eds 3.8 neither... anyone planning to push it there? :-)13:18
xclaesseah, it is in gnome3-staging13:19
seb128xclaesse, I guess it's a bit tricky since it breaks api/abi and will break softwares using e-d-s13:19
xclaesseseb128, ah... :/13:21
xclaessemaybe I should just stick to 3.6 API in my app then13:22
seb128xclaesse, well, I didn't check what libs changed13:22
seb128desrt, hey13:50
seb128desrt, did you see glib's gdbus-close-pending test fail like on https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135923939/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-armhf.glib2.0_2.36.0-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz before?13:51
seb128g_main_context_wakeup: assertion `g_atomic_int_get (&context->ref_count) > 0' failed13:51
desrtgod do i ever hate that test13:52
desrtno.  i didn't see that.13:52
desrtonly on arm?13:52
seb128yes13:53
seb128doko is doing a test rebuild on the archive13:53
desrtwell awesome13:53
seb128he hit that one, twice now13:53
seb128he did a retry and still get it13:53
desrti wonder if our atomic ops are somehow not up to snuff on arm13:53
desrthuh.  reliable is nice.13:53
desrti wonder if i could reproduce it locally on my rasp-pi or something13:53
desrtonly started recently, i guess?13:54
seb128desrt, seems so13:54
desrtthat's weird13:54
seb128or the ppa builders are different from the archive ones13:54
seb128which is possible13:54
desrti was poking around in that testcase the other day because i had caused a bug13:54
seb128like virtual builds13:54
desrtbut it was on a branch that i didn't merge yet13:54
desrtah... tricky.13:54
desrtis this the first archive build you've done?13:55
desrtiirc we've had 2.35.x releases in the distro for a while, no?13:55
seb128it's like the second one13:57
seb128but we didn't have the new glib at the time of the first rebuild13:57
seb128but rebuilds are not different from ppas13:57
desrti'm confused.13:58
desrtwhat is the last passing version that we had building on the same system?13:58
desrtand what is the system that produces the failure?  real hardware?13:58
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seb1282.34 was the last one13:59
desrtthat doesn't make sense...14:00
seb128we don't get a lot of arm builds on ppas14:00
desrtOH14:00
desrtthis is a paa?14:00
desrt*ppa14:00
seb128yes14:00
desrtso this is virt?14:00
seb128yes14:00
desrtok14:00
desrtso probably i should not try using my rasp-pi to reproduce :)14:00
seb128feel free to say that it's a doko or #is bug :p14:00
desrtwell14:01
desrti'd like to know more :)14:01
desrtwho do i query about those builders?  #is?14:01
seb128desrt, /j #ubuntu-devel to start14:02
seb128I'm asking doko there14:02
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didrocksSweetshark, qengho, jasoncwarner, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, robru, desrt, tkamppeter, attente: meeting time in 2 minutes!15:28
qenghoEuropeans, welcome to summer time.15:28
mlankhorst:(15:28
seb128didrocks, thanks15:28
seb128(I'm around but in a call)15:29
didrocksseb128: continue slacking off, I'll cover you :)15:29
didrocksshhh, I hope jasoncwarner_ doesn't listen :p15:29
seb128roooh15:29
didrocksSweetshark, qengho, jasoncwarner, mlankhorst, cyphermox, mterry, robru, desrt, tkamppeter, attente: hey!15:30
desrtHI!15:30
attentehi!15:30
didrockshope that everybody had some good easter holidays (if any ;))15:30
cyphermoxhey :)15:31
tkamppeterhi15:31
didrocksIRC was finely quiet, appreciated to be in a quiet (but lonely) place!15:31
didrocksanyway: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2013-04-0215:31
desrtdidrocks: no vacation for you?15:31
didrocksdesrt: no, planning first to land the 100 scopes15:32
desrt:(15:32
didrocksbut when it was descoped, planning to land the in dash payment15:32
didrockswell, at least, quiet days, like no ping in 5 hours, no world record! :-)15:32
didrocksnew*15:32
mterry:)15:32
didrocksthe wiki is a little bit sparse, do not forget to update it if you have done anything noteworthy ^15:32
didrockssame with blueprints/WI, do not forget to update them :)15:33
didrocksok, let's start15:33
didrocksSweetshark: hey!15:33
* Sweetshark reports slacking off for eastern and april fools (that was actually some work). And working on 4.0.2~rc2. I hope everyone tried the 'libreoffice does print on tuesday only' extension. thats all.15:33
jcastrodidrocks: if we want to follow along with smart scopes should we keep the preval PPA around?15:33
jcastroor will that turn into exploding things?15:33
qengho- Testing chromium-browser on some specialty ARM hardware. SIGBUS fun.15:33
qengho- Preparing new chromium-browser stable release for security team.15:33
qengho- (low priority) Cross-compiling chromium-browser on 64-bit hardware to work around address-space problem at link time.15:33
qengho- (low) search-exten$ions packaging.15:33
qenghoEOL15:33
didrocksjcastro: meeting time, will handle more discusion for the end ;)15:33
jcastrook15:33
didrocksthanks Sweetshark (and for the google+ post)15:34
didrocksqengho: did you heard about qtscripts?15:34
qenghodidrocks: no.15:34
didrocksqengho: so Qt 5 has a v8 copy15:34
qenghoOf course.15:34
didrocksqengho: I think the security team is scared about having to maintain 2 copies15:34
didrocksqengho: can you check with chrisccoulson on this subject?15:35
didrocks(I think their copy is slightly modified and on older version)15:35
qenghoWill do.  Add this, with webkit, to the externals list, I guess.15:35
didrocksright ;)15:35
didrocksthanks qengho15:35
qenghoFun.  That's all for me.15:35
didrocks:)15:35
didrocksv8, webkit15:36
didrockssmall projects :p15:36
didrocksmlankhorst: hey!15:36
mlankhorstrt stuff, hard hard hard15:36
mlankhorstplymouth race continued15:36
mlankhorsteod?15:36
didrocksshort and concise :)15:36
didrocksthanks mlankhorst15:36
didrockscyphermox: your turn :)15:36
mlankhorstsorry to be so terse, I was just preparing to leave to think the whole concurrency and rt determinism* problem over while enjoying some nice weather *) https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/4/2/233 *gone*15:37
cyphermoxah!15:37
* didrocks pulled cyphermox from other channels back here :p15:38
cyphermoxI did the review/prepare (at least until it was waiting to build) for the qtbase/appmenu-qt/dbusmenu-qt uploads15:38
cyphermoxthanks15:38
didrocks\o/15:38
* cyphermox drops the leash15:38
didrocksthanks sil2100 for helping on that too ;)15:38
cyphermoxyup, very much!15:38
cyphermoxI also continued working on getting the phablet stuff assigned to me ready for landing15:38
cyphermoxalmost done!15:39
cyphermoxtoday I'm putting a few things aside to try and finally fix that dbusmenu/nm-applet bug.15:39
cyphermoxgot a reproducer script now, so with a bit of debugging it should be relatively easy to fix.15:39
cyphermoxEOF15:39
didrocksexcellent :)15:39
desrtcyphermox: is this the one we were poking at in london?15:40
cyphermoxdesrt: yeah15:40
desrtdo you know if the network indicator is on the gmenumodel rewrite list any time soon?15:40
cyphermoxdesrt: https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/+junk/test-indicator-update15:40
desrt(i know... you need to do the work for the SRU...)15:40
cyphermoxafaik aruiz or someone is already looking at rewriting a proper indicator15:41
desrtcool15:41
desrtthanks15:41
didrocksbtw xnox, robru, cyphermox, mterry: on the spreadsheet I shared on Friday, do not hesitate to poke directly upstream to get every cells to "yes" for the phone stuff. If you get any blocker, do not hesitate to ping me if discussing with upstream didn't help (or if we missed some reverse-deps) ^15:41
mterrydidrocks, I think we need to start to land some of the basic packages like platform-api in the PPA and such that other apps depend on15:42
didrocksyeah, xnox is doing them, right? ^15:42
mterryplatform-api's packaging branch landed15:42
didrocksmterry: mind adding to the platform stack and deploying?15:43
didrocksmterry: I think elements will move stacks once sergio is back from vacations15:43
didrocksbut we can start landing15:43
mterryk, I can look into it15:43
didrocksspeaking of who… mterry! hey ;)15:43
mterry- Fixing up some phablet apps and packaging for automerging/autopushing15:43
mterry- Released new Deja Dup, now with less resource hogging and less everyone-in-the-world-uploading-to-U1-at-midnight-UTC15:43
mterry- Uploaded a crash fix for sessioninstaller to raring and started a precise SRU for it15:43
mterry- Filed a merge to add indicators to the UnityNext welcome screen15:43
mterry- Started a fork of UnityNext to work on next generation unity-greeter (to be later merged back into UnityNext)15:43
mterry- Ate so many Reeses chocolate eggs...  :-/15:43
mterryEOF15:43
desrtmterry: i'm jealous15:44
desrt(about that last part)15:44
mterrydesrt, too many, I should have written15:44
* didrocks sees "chocolate" and ":-/" in the same sentence15:44
didrocksdoesn't fit!15:44
didrocks:)15:44
cyphermoxno such thing as too many15:44
didrocksheh, right15:44
didrocksthanks mterry :)15:44
didrocksrobru: hey, awake?15:44
desrtdidrocks: maybe not yet.  it's 8:44 there15:44
didrocksyeah, it's my guess…15:45
didrocksok, desrt then, missing some chocolate? ;)15:45
desrthad my fair share of chocolate, but in the form of mini eggs -- the ones with the hard candy shells15:45
didrockssad ;)15:45
desrtspent some time planning and starting to write the ability to define overrides for default values on gobject properties15:46
desrtwhich has been on my list for about a year15:46
desrtdid a lot of optimisations to g_object_new() in the meantime (~30% improvement in common cases) ready to land after being reviewed15:46
didrockswaow, g_object_new() is this small function almost never used, isn't it? ;-)15:46
desrtfinished up and finally merged a patch for GMenuModel section flattening that hopefully can be used by everyone now to get a common implementation of the functionality (gtkmenu, mac os menus, qmenumodel, even gnome-shell)15:47
desrthelped attente with his work on the keyboard indicator15:47
desrtreviewed some patches... including one from larsu to help him with the new sound indicator15:47
desrtand did some work on action stuff in gio (thanks to attente for reviews there)15:47
desrtthat's all i remember15:47
desrtoh15:48
desrti also spent a long time pressing down a french press _very_ slowly15:48
desrtand the coffee tastes great15:48
didrocksbonus point for it :-)15:48
didrocksthanks desrt15:48
didrocksattente: here?15:49
attentedidrocks, yep15:49
attentekeyboard indicator is starting to coming together with thanks to desrt and larsu (desktop so far, not phone), has very very basic functionality, and still needs a lot of work and polish15:49
attenteneed to talk to mpt and #gnome-design about how the corresponding g-c-c region/input sources panel should look, but may have to postpone this till Oakland15:49
attentethis week will start working on how to implement the phone backend of the indicator, lots of other small things to think about e.g. fcitx integration, icons15:49
attenteEOF15:49
didrockskeyboard indicator \o/ a long awaited one :)15:50
didrocksthanks attente15:50
didrockshey tkamppeter15:50
attentethanks didrocks :)15:50
tkamppeter- Posted MuPDF-printing-related project ideas for GSoC 201315:51
tkamppeter- Contacted potential students for participation in GSoC 201315:51
tkamppeter- Closed Blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-cups-bonjour-browsing15:51
tkamppeter- Reported several laptop-related regressions: Suspend stopped working, mobile broadband stopped working15:51
didrocksgreat tkamppeter!15:52
didrocksok, my turn I guess15:52
didrocks* Misc daily release features and fixes.15:52
didrocks* Prepare and continue on supporting multiple release delivering to the same channel.15:52
didrocks* Helped and coordinated for touch apps first packaging and evaluation.15:52
didrocks* Handle de-100ification, but still having the ppa running15:52
desrtdidrocks: you forget seb128 and larsu ;)15:52
didrocks* Got in my ppa unity + in dash payment for design review and mark's approval in ppa:didrocks/ppa15:52
didrocksdesrt: I hope we'll get larsu, seb128 didn't do anything and he's sleeping right now ;)15:53
didrocksI heard he even took German holidays!15:53
desrt:)15:53
desrti don't know why that would surprise you15:53
desrtwhat happened with the 100 scopes stuff?15:53
didrocksI'm not :-)15:53
desrtjust decided it was too much work?15:53
didrocksnot good enough quality-wise to be released15:54
desrtah.  good reason :)15:54
didrocksso better to postpone for a release than shipping a broken experience15:54
didrocksyeah :)15:54
* didrocks is really happy with that decision15:54
* desrt might have guessed ;)15:54
didrocksdespite the huge amount of work :)15:54
didrocksbut well, better in the end, and most of people testing the ppa agrees it's a better experience15:54
didrocksbut it needs a little bit of enhancement15:55
didrocksdesign-wise and performance-wise15:55
didrocksthe ppa will stay automagically daily-releasing15:55
didrockson top of raring15:55
didrocksso people using the ppa will get updated and there won't be a conflict with distor15:55
desrtneat15:55
didrocksthey should as well install the new pinning package: ubuntu-unity-experimental-prevalidation15:55
didrockswhich ensures it will prefer stuff from the ppa15:56
didrocksjcastro: I think that will answer your questiont ^15:56
didrocksquestion*15:56
didrocksany other question?15:56
mterrydidrocks, for the phablet packaging stuff...15:57
didrocksyeah?15:57
mterrydidrocks, do we need a bootstrap comment in debian/changelog?   You made some comment before that made me think yes, but I thought those comments were just for switching to inline debian/15:57
didrocksmterry: good question! :-)15:57
didrocksso since Friday, this isn't needed for a feature branch15:58
didrocksas this will land on ubuntu-unity/next15:58
didrocksit will first take revision 115:58
didrocksand then, build from that15:58
didrocks(adding in the end: * blablabla from rev xxx (ubuntu-unity/next))15:58
didrocksthe 2 sets of commits are not mixed with the "distro ones"15:58
didrocksso once we get into distro, we'll need it15:58
didrocksif you think we should wait, it's up to you15:59
didrocksjust be aware that before delivering to distro, we'll need it15:59
mterry...  ok15:59
didrocksmterry: also, we don't need the trick of "at least one commit anymore"15:59
didrocksof difference16:00
* didrocks likes hacking on quiet days, enabling to do a lot of work :)16:00
didrocksanymore question?16:00
didrocksseems not, ok thanks everyone! have a good short week :)16:00
desrtnormal week for canadians :/16:01
didrocksmterry: xnox is on #ubuntu-devel, you can maybe trick him if needed for reverse-deps :)16:01
didrocksdesrt: like short week is normal? ;)16:01
desrtno... like no holiday monday16:01
* xnox is not entirely happy with all the pings on this channel =)16:01
mterrydidrocks, post-meeting question.  My unity build-dep branch got rejected by -ci because the version of libunity doesn't exist yet...  How have we gotten around this in the past?16:01
didrocksmterry: oh, I've been stupid, we should have handle it as a NEW API16:02
didrocksmterry: like in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#My_package_B_depends_on_a_new_symbol_I_just_added_on_A16:02
didrocksmterry: see some lines above :)16:03
didrocksof the previous paragraph16:03
davmor2hey guys with software-updater it seems to of locked up doing the Preconfiguring packages.... this is todays iso + using software updater for the first time16:03
mterrydidrocks, so bump version of libunity?  This wouldn't help with -ci though, right?  That new version of libunity still won't be in the PPA yet16:04
didrocksmterry: right, there is a local repository16:04
desrtAHHH!!!!!!!16:06
* desrt head explodes16:06
mterrydidrocks, I'm leaning towards just building unity twice tomorrow  ;)16:06
desrtsomeone needs to die16:06
didrocksmterry: that's fine with me :)16:06
mterrydesrt, ?16:06
didrocksmterry: well, the full build16:06
desrti just got a book delivered in the mail16:06
didrocksmterry: and then, you will just kick an unity rebuild16:06
mterrydidrocks, right16:06
desrti'm supposd to help review it16:06
didrocksmterry: you will need something though to build16:06
desrtit's a new book on gnome3 development16:07
didrocksmterry: I'm sure we'll find a branch, somewhere… ;)16:07
didrocksdesrt: "nice"? ;)16:07
desrti opened the book to the middle16:07
mterrydidrocks, wait it won't rebuild unity if there aren't any new branches?16:07
desrtvery first page is on the topic of gsettings16:07
desrt"hey!  this is cool!"16:07
desrtso i read a little.....16:08
didrocksmterry: no, as there is the filter of "we need something to build"16:08
desrtand this is what i see:16:08
didrocksmterry: as you bump the changelog when doing an upload :)16:08
desrthttp://imgur.com/uSk5Fp616:08
mterrydidrocks, :(  but I'm asking it to manually build.  It should trust me16:08
didrocksahah :)16:08
* didrocks sees desrt in despair16:08
mterrydesrt, heh16:08
didrocksmterry: well, it would trust someone else16:08
desrtmy review of the book, having read one page, is VERY VERY negative16:08
didrocksmterry: but you? come on! :)16:08
mterrydesrt, you try so hard to crash people's programs, and they still don't get the message16:09
desrtmterry: SERIOUSLY16:09
didrocksyeah, it seems crashing wasn't enough :p16:09
mterrydidrocks, OK.  I *think* I just added platform-api to platform.cfg and gallery-app to apps.cfg in head.  Does anybody need to push a button to actually use my config changes?16:11
didrocksmterry: you need to run cu2d-update-stack16:12
didrocksmterry: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/FAQ#Adding.2BAC8-removing_components_to_a_stack16:13
didrocksmterry: also, you need to specify the generic jobs and the list of package + autopilot jobs to run for the integration tests16:14
mterrydidrocks, ah, fair16:14
didrocksmterry: do you want that we coordinate/handle that together tomorrow?16:14
mterrydidrocks, are you close to EOD?16:15
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didrocksmterry: more than close, I didn't get time to exercise today, so no break from the past 11 hours :)16:15
mterrydidrocks, OK, go16:15
mterry:)16:15
davmor2seb128: Hey dude Who would be the best person to talk to ref software updater/apt?16:21
davmor2seb128: myself and vila are both hit by the same issue in that it locks up doing precofiguring packages ...16:21
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seb128davmor2, hey, I think your issue could be the bug cjwatson fixed in aptdaemon today16:25
viladavmor2, seb128: http://paste.ubunu.com/5670927/ with 2 zombies may be relevant16:25
vilaseb128: oh, so trying to upgrade later may be enough ?16:25
seb128the update should be available16:26
davmor2seb128: right so update via the terminal and no via software-updater till the fix is in then yes?16:27
seb128the fix should already in, but otherwise yes16:28
seb128need to restart, my intel driver is in a weird state16:28
* didrocks is escaping and waves good evening!16:30
davmor2seb128: Yeap that has pulled in the new apt-daemon by the look of it so I'll try it again tomorrow and see if it works as expected then :)16:33
seb128davmor2, good16:34
davmor2seb128: thanks for the info :)16:40
seb128yw16:40
GunnarHjseb128: Can you please take a look at my latest comment at bug 1162836?16:48
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1162836 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "$PATH does not contain /usr/games - /etc/environment not sourced or environment not preserved" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116283616:48
seb128GunnarHj, what did you change in the version you asked him to test?16:49
GunnarHjseb128: I commented the "pam_env.so readenv=1" call at the bottom and added such a call in the beginning.16:51
seb128GunnarHj, do you think he has a PATH in ~/.pam_environ or something?16:51
GunnarHjseb128: Then he should have had a problem before as well, shouldn't he?16:52
seb128GunnarHj, well, not if his userdir is protected16:53
seb128GunnarHj, but that seems too much guessing at this point, let's wait for extra infos or other reports16:53
GunnarHjseb128: Aha, you are right.16:53
GunnarHjseb128: But you agree we wait and see?16:54
seb128yes16:54
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, thanks.16:54
seb128thank you for looking at those bugs ;-)16:54
seb128mterry, howdy16:54
seb128mterry, did you get reports about unity-greeter making a sad face if you hit "esc" while entering a password?16:55
mterryseb128, no?  a couple cycles ago i think we did16:56
seb128mterry, ok, that started recently, I will file a bug16:56
seb128mterry, didrocks confirmed it16:56
seb128the password field vanish if you do that16:56
mterryseb128, :(16:57
seb128mterry, I downgraded unity-greeter and still happening, I guess it's a lightdm bug16:59
seb128mterry, seems like a robert_ancell bug, I will assign to him ;-)16:59
mterryseb128, or maybe we only noticed it recently17:00
seb128mterry, no, I do esc at least once a week17:00
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seb128when I'm unsure of what I typed I tend to esc and retype17:00
mterryseb128, heh ok  :)17:01
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seb128mterry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1163456 for info17:09
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1163456 in lightdm "unity-greeter password prompt vanishes when hitting "esc"" [High,New]17:09
mterryseb128, thanks17:10
seb128mterry, ok, and confirmed that downgrading to lightdm 1.5.1 (just the server and gobject lib) fixes it17:18
BigWhaleIs there a way for Kazam 1.4.1 in Raring to become 1.4.2? Before the release?17:24
mitya57BigWhale: if it's bugfix release, feel free to propose an upload (I see you did some in previous cycles)17:29
mitya57... or contact Andrew to get it into Debian and then sync17:29
mterryseb128, nice.  Yeah, robert_ancell's then  :)17:30
BigWhalemitya57, it is a bugfix yes.17:30
seb128mterry, ;-)17:32
seb128BigWhale, no problem to get a bug fix update still in17:33
BigWhaleseb128, awesome, I made the release a few days ago and everything is in order... I'll bug Ken about it when he's online. :)17:34
seb128BigWhale, ok17:35
seb128desrt, the arm builders hate you for some reason17:40
seb128desrt, the build I tried failed with17:41
seb128"  /gdbus/codegen-peer-to-peer:                                         g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting."17:41
desrthuh17:44
desrtseb128: i wonder if we have some weird threading issues on arm or something17:46
desrtgdbus is one of the more aggressive threads users....17:46
desrtand maybe it could be that our atomic operations are not up to snuff or something like that17:47
seb128could be...17:47
desrtbut why all of the sudden?17:47
seb128it might be worth trying to kick a build on your nexus17:47
seb128yeah, not sure what changed17:48
* desrt needs to figure out a good way to get his nexus semi-permanently setup17:51
seb128dual boot?17:51
desrtnah17:51
desrti mean so i can just have it in my house somewhere and ssh it to when i need to17:51
seb128ah, I see17:52
seb128desrt, btw, any chance you could look to https://launchpadlibrarian.net/135746178/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.telepathy-glib_0.20.1-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz as well?17:52
seb128"ERROR:util.c:282:test_utf8_make_valid: assertion failed: (!tp_strdiff (tmp, test[i].target))"17:52
desrtPASS: test-signal-connect-object17:52
desrtinteresting17:52
seb128desrt, not sure what changed, the same version used to build, I wonder if it doesn't like glib as well ;-)17:52
desrti got a ping on this very topic earlier today17:52
desrtbut it was from a telepathy hacker happy that we finally changed the glib behaviour17:53
desrti wonder if this is related17:53
desrtie: new behaviour of glib automatically disconnecting signal handlers for objects-as-observer when the object is finalized17:53
seb128I don't see any obvious commit in http://cgit.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-glib/log/ that looks like it could address that17:54
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desrti'll take a look at the testcase17:55
seb128desrt, thanks17:55
desrtis it 100% reliable failure?17:55
seb128xclaesse says he get it on his box since he upgrade to raring17:55
seb128I didn't test yet17:55
xclaesseI can reproduce here (raring)17:55
xclaesseall the time17:55
seb128but it seems to be17:55
desrtxclaesse: you're who i'm going to bug to fix it :p17:55
desrti guess not...17:55
seb128lol17:56
desrtmy guess is the glib upgrade causes the issue17:56
xclaessedesrt, if you fix a nasty gdbus deadlock I'm experiencing atm: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697128 :D17:56
ubot2`Gnome bug 697128 in gdbus "deadlock in g_dbus_connection_get_type()" [Normal,Unconfirmed]17:56
desrtxclaesse: lol.17:56
desrtvery well-known gobject bug there17:57
xclaessereally?17:57
desrtyes17:57
xclaessedamned :(17:57
desrteasy workaround, though17:57
xclaessehow?17:57
desrtcall g_ensure_type(G_TYPE_DBUS_CONNECTION) from the top of main17:57
desrtie: before any threads are created17:58
xclaesseg_type_ensure() you mean :)17:58
desrtya... that one.17:58
desrtlong story short: there is a relatively simple lock-inversion deadlock in gtype.c that will be very difficult to fix17:58
xclaesse<desrt> PASS: test-signal-connect-object --> we had tp_g_signal_connect_object() for a few years ;)18:05
xclaessedesrt, it's a re-implementation of it using  g_object_weak_ref()18:06
xclaessebut I'm happy to deprecate that func as soon as we depend on 2.3618:06
desrtxclaesse: ya... this is exactly what i suspect18:09
desrtthat there is a conflict here18:10
desrtbtw: g_signal_connect_object() is still not threadsafe18:10
desrtbut i think absolutely nobody is using it for this purpose so that's probably OK18:10
rickspencer3hey guys, QtCreator is not showing up on my launcher :/18:38
seb128rickspencer3, did that start recently?18:43
rickspencer3seb128, yeah18:43
rickspencer3since I dist-upgraded this morning18:43
rickspencer3seb128, first time since Thursday18:43
rickspencer3but now the menu integration works, which is nice18:44
seb128rickspencer3, dpkg -l | grep qtcreator?18:44
rickspencer3ii  qtcreator                                     2.7.0-0ubuntu1                                                            amd64        lightweight integrated development environment (IDE) for Qt18:44
rickspencer3ii  qtcreator-doc                                 2.7.0-0ubuntu1                                                            all          documentation for Qt Creator IDE18:44
rickspencer3ii  qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu                       2.7.0-0ubuntu1                                                            amd64        Ubuntu plugin for Qt Creator IDE18:44
rickspencer3rc  ubuntu-qtcreator-qt5libs                      0.1-1ubuntu7~raring1                                                      amd64        Qt 5 libraries for Qt Creator18:44
rickspencer3sorry18:44
seb128rickspencer3, do you have it pinned in your launcher?18:44
rickspencer3seb128, no18:45
seb128oh, ok, so you are starting it and it's not showing in alt-ab/launcher?18:45
rickspencer3seb128, correct, does not show up in alt-tab either18:45
seb128Trevinho, ^18:45
seb128seems like a bamf issue18:45
* rickspencer3 logs bug18:46
seb128rickspencer3, I somewhat have the feeling that a session restart might fix your issue18:49
rickspencer3seb128, hmmmm18:49
rickspencer3seb128, I think I restarted since I dist-upgraded18:49
seb128still18:49
rickspencer3let me log the bug and then do the session restart18:49
seb128bamf didn't change for over 3 weeks18:49
rickspencer3seb128, should I not log the bug?18:50
seb128you can18:50
rickspencer3seb128, yeah, but something changed in Qt, right?18:50
seb128but I've the feeling it's going to be one of those one time things18:50
rickspencer3or QtCreator18:50
seb128qtcreator didn't change18:50
rickspencer3it's all integrated into the menus know and such18:50
seb128could be qt yes18:50
seb128I guess we will know if other people get the issue, or if it's persistent after a session restart for you18:50
rickspencer3bug #116352218:51
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1163522 in Unity "QtCreator Not Appearing in Launcher or Alt-Tab" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116352218:51
rickspencer3seb128, of course, you were right18:55
rickspencer3;)18:55
seb128rickspencer3, ;-)18:55
seb128rickspencer3, some days I hate being right on those sort of things :p18:55
seb128that used to be a frequent issue with bamf, I didn't hit it for a long time (which is good)18:56
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