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Davieyhola o/16:01
roaksoaxo/16:01
zulhi16:01
arosaleshello o/16:02
DavieyIs my TZ correct, that we should be expecting the meeting now?16:02
* arosales looking at chair in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting16:02
arosalesDaviey: looks correct on my calendar16:02
Daviey#startmeeting Ubuntu Server Meeting16:02
hallyn_spamaps is not around16:02
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hallyn_oh ok :)16:02
Davieym_3: You didn't do the minutes :(16:03
hallyn_didn't arosales run it last week?16:03
arosalesI don't think jimbaker or Ursinha are available this week.16:04
arosaleshallyn_: m_3 was last week16:04
hallyn_order on wiki page seems weird then16:04
arosaleshallyn_: I chaired on 2013-03-1916:04
hallyn_oh, bc m_3 didn't udpate it :)16:04
DavieyI am trying to quickly scan it now16:04
hallyn_sorry, carry on16:04
arosalesrbasak: are you available to chair this week?16:05
arosaleshmm . . . going down the list I think jamespage is out so next would be zul16:06
DavieyOkay, seems to be contentless :)16:06
zuluh?16:06
Davieyarosales: I suspect I am on the hook.16:06
arosalesah, ok16:06
zuli think i agree with daviey ;)16:06
arosales:-)16:06
rbasakarosales: it looks like Daviey is chairing?16:06
Daviey#topic Raring Development16:06
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DavieyRelease Tracking Bug Tasks16:07
Daviey#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server16:07
Davieycould someone else take bug 1157918 ?16:07
ubottubug 1157918 in horizon (Ubuntu Raring) "Network selection tab when starting instance renders incorrectly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115791816:07
Davieyadam_g is back this week., so might make sense16:08
Davieyadam_g to follow up from back scroll16:08
Davieyroaksoax: bug 106452716:08
ubottubug 1064527 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "detect_ipmi needs improvement. detects non-existant device in nested kvm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106452716:08
Davieyroaksoax: Do you understand the use case for this?16:08
roaksoaxDaviey: yes! I haven't gotten to an effective solution but disable auto probing seems to fix it16:09
roaksoaxDaviey: i don't yet know the implecations of disabling it since it would be disabling in-band checking16:10
Davieysuper16:10
Davieyroaksoax: isn't there some fingerprint it's Qemu?16:10
Davieyhallyn_: ^ ?>16:10
Davieyhallyn_: What fingerprint is best exposed to the guest that it is a Qemu instance ?16:11
zulDaviey:  its in the dmidecode isnt it?16:11
hallyn_cpuinfo?16:12
Davieyroaksoax / hallyn_: can you work together to find something that allows you to make ipmi detection conditional ? :)16:12
Davieyroaksoax: bug 1073463 ?16:13
ubottubug 1073463 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "User-configurable files are not installed in /etc" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107346316:13
roaksoaxDaviey: looking at it now16:14
Davieysuper16:14
DavieySo........... who wants to volunteer for bug 116213916:14
ubottubug 1162139 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Raring) "mysql-5.5 still built using GCC-4.4, should be built with the default GCC" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116213916:14
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DavieyLooks like a low hanging, high reward tasty fruit16:15
Davieyhello doko16:15
* Daviey prepares to spin the bottle.16:16
doko?16:16
Davieyrbasak, i fear the bottle landed on you.16:16
rbasakHmm, OK.16:16
rbasakI am doing +1 maintenance this month so it might fall into that anyway.16:17
Davieythat was my thinking :)16:17
rbasakThat's a clever bottle you have there :-)16:17
Davieyzul: bug 1066845 ?16:17
ubottubug 1066845 in nova (Ubuntu Quantal) "nova-novncproxy is not running; Suggest: novnc should be Depends" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106684516:17
zulDaviey:  uploaded like this morning16:18
Davieyso it is!16:18
Davieybug 1121874 .. hmmmm16:18
ubottubug 1121874 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Raring) "MySQL launch fails silently if < 4MB of disk space is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112187416:18
dokowhile you are at mysql-5.5 ... it's still built using gcc-4.4 :-(16:19
Davieydoko: If you were here earlier.... that would have been good timing16:19
Davieyrbasak: Does it make sense to try and do someting with that, whilst tackling 1162139?16:19
rbasakDaviey: ack16:20
dokomaybe configure using openssl?16:20
DavieyTOPIC Blueprints16:21
Daviey#TOPIC Blueprints16:21
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Daviey#LINK http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html16:21
Davieylets look at the Reds16:22
Davieysmoser: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-image-access16:22
Davieycan you comment on it?16:22
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smoserwe're in much better position now.16:22
Davieyoutstanding is, collect complete list Ubuntu server bits to be supported: TODO16:22
smosersimplestreams client has been uploaded to cloud-init16:22
smoseri think we have the list16:22
smoserbut we don thave data for everything16:22
smoserstill to get data produced for maas and for installer files16:23
Davieyright.. Doesn't sound concerning.. progress looks good.. thanks smoser16:23
utlemmingsmoser: I'm going to be working on MAAS this week to get that data16:23
DavieyNext.16:23
Davieyhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow16:23
Daviey .. I will comment in lieu of jamespage16:23
smoserutlemming, oh, good.16:23
DavieyIt's mostly dep-8 stuff making it look so poor.16:23
DavieyI think we will have to defer some of them, but we should probably all try and nab a test.. It's good to learn how dep-8 works16:24
DavieySo,16:24
Daviey#ACTION ALL, please look to hijack a dep-8 test from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow16:24
meetingologyACTION: ALL, please look to hijack a dep-8 test from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow16:24
DavieyCookies for those that do this.16:24
DavieyNEXT16:25
Daviey#TOPIC https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-cloudarchive16:25
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Davieycanary testing of cloud-archive pockets with 12.04 on a daily basis: TODO16:25
Daviey .. Probably needs Jamesage or adam_g to comment16:25
Davieysame with, bug reporting apport stuff for cloud-archive to ensure bugs get to the right location: TODO16:26
DavieyAnd Doc's and Communications.  We should get to this16:26
Davieybut generally, it seems we are looking OK16:26
DavieyNEXT16:26
Daviey#TOPIC https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-mysql16:26
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DavieyNobody has been able to pick this up from Spamaps yet16:27
arosalesDaviey: ya I need to follow up with Norvald on this16:27
Davieyarosales: Are you happy to do that?16:27
arosalesyup, I will follow up with norvald16:27
Davieyreducing the delta should be postponed for this cycle IMO16:28
Davieybut packaging percona for Ubuntu still seems a good idea IMO16:28
DavieyDepending on complexity16:28
Daviey#ACTION arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU16:28
meetingologyACTION: arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU16:28
arosalesDaviey: ack, on the postpone16:29
Davieyzul: Would you have capacity to review complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu?16:29
zulDaviey:  sure16:29
Davieythanks16:30
Daviey#ACTION zul to review complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu NEW16:30
meetingologyACTION: zul to review complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu NEW16:30
DavieyNEXT16:30
Daviey#TOPIC https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-openstack-ubuntu-images16:30
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Davieysmoser: can you comment ?16:30
Davieysmoser: mostly tieing juju into simplestreams data, right?16:31
smoserwe're making progress there. that work is in simpelstreams client.16:31
smosera glance mirror is in trunk right now.16:31
smoserand it needs to be taught how to write to swift.16:31
smoserbut then we'll be really close.16:31
Davieysmoser: is py-juju or juju-core the intended target?16:32
DavieyAnd is it still on target for Raring?16:32
smoserjuju-core.16:32
smoserits on the juju todo lists, but i think of not significant priority compared to other things16:33
Davieysmoser: Can you reach out to juju-core and discuss what we can achieve for Raring?16:33
smoseryeah. i will16:34
Daviey#ACTION Smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.16:34
meetingologyACTION: Smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.16:34
Davieythanks16:34
Daviey#TOPIC https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-apt-improvements16:34
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Davieyrbasak: ^ ?16:34
rbasakNo progress on this. Sorry. It will miss Raring.16:35
rbasakI'll mark the WIs as postpoooooooooooooned.16:35
DavieyThanks16:35
Davieyrbasak: Can you make steps to make sure it is nailed for Raring+1 ?16:35
Daviey#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:36
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DavieyAny events?16:36
rbasakWill do16:36
Daviey(rbasak, thanks)16:36
DavieySo, openstack summit is starting to creep up on us16:37
DavieyA bunch of Ubuntu Server developers will be in Portland, Oregan 15th-18th April16:37
DavieyAnything else?16:37
Daviey#TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)16:38
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Davieyplars: Are you here?16:38
DavieyAnybody waving the QA flag here?16:39
Daviey.. shame.16:39
Daviey#TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:39
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smbI would like to get two features we were asked to add into Raring Xen.16:39
smbPackage is prepared, tracking bugs have ubuntu-release-team subscribed16:39
smbbut no feedback for a week. Is there something else I should do?16:39
Davieysmb: Have the bug numbers handy?16:39
smbbug 1160373 and bug 116037816:40
ubottubug 1160373 in xen (Ubuntu) "Support for APIC Virtualization in Xen" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116037316:40
ubottubug 1160378 in xen (Ubuntu) "TSC offset support for Xen" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116037816:40
Daviey#ACTION Daviey to follow up on bugs bug 1160373 and bug 116037816:40
meetingologyACTION: Daviey to follow up on bugs bug 1160373 and bug 116037816:40
plarsDaviey: hi, yes16:40
Davieysmb: I will provide resolute today.16:40
smbDaviey, thanks16:40
smbI got nothing else if nobody has any questions.16:40
Davieyplars: wb16:40
DavieyAnyone have any Kernel questins?16:40
plarsDaviey: I thought the meeting was supposed to start at 15:00 UTC - that's what it is on my caldendar and I didn't see anyone around, sorry16:41
plarsDaviey: I don't have anything at the moment though16:41
Davieyplars: Ok, thanks.. We are pretty thin today16:41
DavieyThanks smb16:41
DavieyI'll move on.. thanks both16:41
Daviey#TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:41
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rbasakNo updates from me this week.16:41
DavieySplendid16:41
Davieyanyone for rbasak ?16:42
Daviey#TOPIC Open Discussion16:42
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DavieyAnyone have anything?16:42
DavieyOkay!16:43
Daviey#TOPIC Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:43
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DavieySame time as this week, but 9th April.  I suspect most of the world is on their summer timezone now.16:43
DavieyChair, i fear will be rbasak16:43
rbasakAck16:44
* Daviey will clean up the rota, as it's currently not accurate 16:44
Davieylets go home16:44
Davieythanks all o/16:44
Daviey#endmeeting16:44
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jsalisbury##16:59
jsalisbury## Kernel team meeting in 1 minute16:59
jsalisbury##16:59
jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Apr  2 17:00:20 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury##17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
jsalisbury#17:00
jsalisbury# NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.17:00
jsalisbury#       'o/' indicates you have something to add (please wait until you are recognized)17:00
jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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jsalisburyWe can come back to this topic.17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:01
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:01
jsalisbury..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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ogasawara[LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork17:02
ogasawara[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html17:02
ogasawara|| apw       || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara||           || hardware-r-delta-review               || 3 work items ||17:02
ogasawara||           || foundations-r-secure-boot             || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara||           || foundations-r-aarch64                 || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara||           || foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements || 1 work item ||17:02
ogasawara||           || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item ||17:02
ogasawara|| ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 3 work items ||17:02
ogasawara||           || hardware-r-kernel-version-and-flavors || 2 work items ||17:02
ogasawara||           || hardware-r-kernel-misc                || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara||           || mobile-power-management               || 3 work items ||17:02
ogasawara|| ppisati   || hardware-r-kernel-config-review       || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara|| rtg       || hardware-r-delta-review               || 1 work item  ||17:02
ogasawara|| sforshee  || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item ||17:02
ogasawaraThe above summarizes the remaining work items owned by individuals on17:02
ogasawaraour team for the rest of the 13.04 cycle.17:02
ogasawara..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:03
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ogasawaraHighlights from this past week include rebasing Raring to the latest17:03
ogasawarav3.8.5 upstream stable kernel, adding Highbank support, and renaming our17:03
ogasawaraomap arm flavor to generic to better reflect is new nature of a17:03
ogasawaramutiplatform arm kernel.  We have also rebased our unstable-3.917:03
ogasawarabranch to the latest upstream v3.9-rc5.17:03
ogasawaraPlease be aware that Beta Release for Raring is fast approaching, ie17:03
ogasawarathis Thurs Apr 4.  Kernel Freeze is next week on Apr 11.  All patches17:03
ogasawarasubmitted after Kernel Freeze must adhere to our SRU policy.17:03
ogasawaraImportant upcoming dates:17:03
ogasawara * Thurs Apr 04 - 13.04 Final Beta Release (~2 days)17:03
ogasawara * Thurs Apr 11 - Kernel Freeze (~1 week)17:03
ogasawara..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)17:03
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sconklin== 2013-04-02 (weekly) ==17:03
sconklinCurrently we have 73 CVEs on our radar, with 7 CVE retired this week.17:03
sconklinSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:03
sconklinOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
sconklin..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/henrix)17:04
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bjfStatus for the main kernels, until tiday (Feb. 26):17:04
bjf  *   Hardy - Nothing this cycle17:04
bjf  *   Lucid - In Prep; (2 commits)17:04
bjf  * Oneiric - In Prep; 4 upstream releases; (100 commits)17:04
bjf  * Precise - In Prep; 1 upstream releases; (150 commits)17:04
bjf  * Quantal - In Prep; 1 upstream releases; (164 commits)17:04
bjfCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
bjf  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
bjfFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:04
bjf  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:04
bjfFuture stable cadence cycles:17:04
bjf  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock17:04
bjf..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:04
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:04
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:04
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