| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 07:42 |
|---|---|---|
| bigcalm | Dave2: you wanted a reminder | 07:42 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk | ||
| AlanBell | morning | 07:51 |
| popey | https://twitter.com/FarnhamBeerex looks like it's been hacked/compromised | 07:53 |
| kvarley | Where are the stock icons stored that notify-send uses? | 07:53 |
| popey | dpkg -L notify-osd | 07:55 |
| popey | /usr/share/notify-osd/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/notification-power.svg | 07:55 |
| popey | for example | 07:55 |
| kvarley | Thanks popey :) | 07:55 |
| AlanBell | popey: yeah, it was sending me DMs | 08:00 |
| kvarley | Am I right in thinking that RSync can't do date time stamped destination folders? | 08:00 |
| === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g | ||
| popey | kvarley: why? | 08:12 |
| kvarley | popey: I expected a flag for doing date but I've just made a bash script and got the date via the date command. Doing backups to an external hard drive, need each one to have the date on | 08:13 |
| popey | you could use rsnapshot or rdiff-backup which does this for you | 08:14 |
| popey | and will save space | 08:15 |
| popey | by only backing up what's changed | 08:15 |
| kvarley | popey: I've setup rsync to do checksum checks, is that enough or should I switch to either of the tools you recommended? | 08:16 |
| popey | well I dont know what your goal is or what you've done with rsync | 08:18 |
| popey | but for regular backups those two tools kinda beat stock rsync | 08:18 |
| kvarley | Basically it's to backup my parents home folders. So it will probably be run daily via cron. Would something like owncloud be better? They do a lot of work in LibreOffice and have family pictures on there - that's about it aside from email which is on the server anyway. | 08:20 |
| JamesTait | Happy World Autism Awareness Day, folks! :-D | 08:21 |
| popey | for my mum I use the standard backup tool in ubuntu - deja-dup | 08:23 |
| SuperMatt | urgh, I have the kernal install problem again. Anyone able to remind me of the fix? | 08:28 |
| popey | you shouldn't have | 08:29 |
| popey | same machine? | 08:29 |
| SuperMatt | different | 08:29 |
| popey | kill it and then "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo apt-get --fix-policy" | 08:29 |
| popey | and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure | 08:29 |
| SuperMatt | thanks | 08:30 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 08:37 |
| kvarley | brobostigon: \0 | 08:41 |
| brobostigon | kvarley: o/ | 08:42 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: fix-policy doesn't exist? | 08:44 |
| SuperMatt | oh... it's gone stuck again on the dist-upgrade | 08:45 |
| popey | sorry, install --fix-policy | 08:45 |
| SuperMatt | oh wait... it's not | 08:46 |
| SuperMatt | it's doing the headers now, just taking it's sweet time | 08:46 |
| knightwise | hey everyone | 08:48 |
| brobostigon | morning knightwise | 08:48 |
| popey | SuperMatt: all sorted? | 08:56 |
| knightwise | hmm.. rummaging around in Azure at the moment | 08:57 |
| knightwise | creatin databases and stuff. | 08:57 |
| MartijnVdS | Windows Azure? | 08:59 |
| SuperMatt | popey: looks like it, thanks | 09:04 |
| SuperMatt | *sigh* excluding all crons and nagios warnings, etc, I only have 21 emails | 09:05 |
| knightwise | MartijnVdS: correct | 09:05 |
| SuperMatt | and none of them require any action | 09:06 |
| SuperMatt | email needs to diaf | 09:06 |
| DJones | Are there any known issues with pidgin in 13.04? For some reason, mine doesn't update the timeline, it just shows the tweets from last time I connected using it which was 340 days ago (been using polly since then), tried removing and re-adding the account with no effect | 09:07 |
| AlanBell | my desktop background appears to have gone | 09:09 |
| AlanBell | been absent for a week or so, and isn't there in a guest session either | 09:09 |
| * popey wonders if AlanBell is missing packages | 09:10 | |
| * AlanBell updates and does ubuntu-desktop^ | 09:19 | |
| BigRedS | pidgin does twitter? | 09:53 |
| brobostigon | thats new to me. | 09:53 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:00 |
| brobostigon | morning davmor2 | 10:01 |
| davmor2 | Everyone have a nice long weekend? | 10:01 |
| * BigRedS spent it at work | 10:03 | |
| DJones | BigRedS: brobostigon Whoops, I meant Gwibber | 10:04 |
| brobostigon | DJones: :) | 10:04 |
| SuperMatt | BigRedS: you poor thing :( | 10:05 |
| davmor2 | BigRedS: :) you mean at the coffee machine twiddling your thumbs desperately trying to stay awake right ;) | 10:13 |
| bigcalm | Morning davmor2 | 10:18 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: How are you Mucka | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: glad for a 4 day weekend. Didn't work myself to death either. You? | 10:19 |
| bigcalm | Not so glad about the 2 4 day weeks though | 10:20 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: mostly I just crashed out :) Very nice relax. | 10:22 |
| BigRedS | davmor2: Haha, I watched a lot of TV :) | 10:22 |
| BigRedS | Having periods of time where you sit around waiting for stuff to break is good incentive to spend the rest of the time making things not arbitrarily break | 10:23 |
| SuperMatt | I spent 10 hours of my weekend playing bioshock infinite | 10:23 |
| SuperMatt | totally worth it | 10:23 |
| mungbean | is there a way to find out which argos stores have stock of an item? it just says 10 nearest stores dont have it, but doesn't say which ones do | 10:25 |
| DJones | mungbean: Don't think so, only trial and error with the stores | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | mungbean: sure it does :) | 10:25 |
| mungbean | seems like a complete fail. unavailable to reserve otherwise | 10:26 |
| popey | works here | 10:27 |
| AlanBell | click "check other stores" | 10:27 |
| AlanBell | you can do 2 at a time | 10:27 |
| popey | or scroll down | 10:27 |
| mungbean | Sorry, this item is currently out of stock in the 10 nearest stores | 10:28 |
| popey | put in a further away postcode? | 10:29 |
| mungbean | what if i have to do that for every postcode in england to discover the only store in stock is in aberdeen? | 10:30 |
| mungbean | shouldn't it allow me to say find stores with stock | 10:31 |
| AlanBell | mungbean: you don't want reserve and collect in that case | 10:32 |
| mungbean | home delivery is unavailable | 10:32 |
| AlanBell | it is probably a discontinued item | 10:33 |
| mungbean | but why are they selling the item if its out of stock everywhere? | 10:33 |
| mungbean | i found a website to search further afield | 10:33 |
| AlanBell | probably because they are based around the printed catalog | 10:34 |
| mungbean | i guess if its out of stock for delivery, then general availablity is low | 10:34 |
| AlanBell | so if it is in the current printed dead tree website then it is in the online website | 10:34 |
| mungbean | its something on good offer atm so maybe just all snapped up | 10:34 |
| popey | i would imagine thier backend would get a kicking if everyone was able to search stock in all stores | 10:35 |
| popey | ..and be accurate | 10:35 |
| mungbean | this is a handy site http://www.icheckstock.co.uk/Argos-Popular-Searches.aspx | 10:36 |
| AlanBell | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ get a ticket for a train instead | 10:40 |
| AlanBell | easy availability checking | 10:40 |
| popey | \o/ | 10:41 |
| SuperMatt | http://divshot.github.com/geo-bootstrap/ | 10:42 |
| AlanBell | classy | 10:49 |
| zleap | does anyone know the command arguments for graphics magic to place a small creative commons logo in the corner of an image | 10:50 |
| zleap | trying to work it out but having problems finding instructions for what i need | 10:51 |
| mgdm | zleap: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/annotating/#watermarking ? | 10:52 |
| zleap | ok | 10:52 |
| mgdm | GM shouldn't have diverged too far from IM | 10:52 |
| zleap | thanks | 10:52 |
| zleap | i can do it manually in gimp but want this for a large number of images | 10:52 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: have you considered the importance of attending http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ ? | 10:57 |
| popey | http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/f487/?cpg=fbl_f487 | 10:59 |
| mgdm | I have | 10:59 |
| popey | awesome 3d printer ☺ | 10:59 |
| mgdm | the issue is that it's *miles* away | 10:59 |
| bigcalm | popey: that is cool! | 11:00 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: not quite as far as oggcamp was 2 years ago (close though) | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | man kids have all the cool things | 11:01 |
| mgdm | wasn't that an april fool one | 11:01 |
| mgdm | ? | 11:01 |
| popey | yes | 11:01 |
| mgdm | bigcalm: that doesn't really help :-) | 11:01 |
| bigcalm | mgdm: poop | 11:02 |
| bigcalm | I'm travelling some distance to attend, but then I'm crazy like that | 11:02 |
| mgdm | heh | 11:02 |
| mgdm | I'd have to get to London first, then along there | 11:03 |
| mgdm | so I'll have a think, but I'm not hopeful, sadly :( | 11:03 |
| bigcalm | The thought counts, so thank you :) | 11:06 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: why did you add "like that" to your last line | 11:06 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: oh you are a card | 11:07 |
| bigcalm | s/are a / | 11:08 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I've been called a lot of things in my life A card is the politest :D | 11:08 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: I'm a nice person really :) | 11:09 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: there is a difference between polite and nice :D | 11:09 |
| bigcalm | I can be both | 11:10 |
| bigcalm | Screw you guys, I'm getting lunch | 11:10 |
| davmor2 | Ah there is the bigcalm I know :) | 11:10 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: joining us tomorrow night? | 11:11 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: I am | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | Grrrr | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | Why is Thunderbird only updating when I switch the workspace with it on | 11:11 |
| bigcalm | davmor2: didn't see your ml reply until just now by switching to thunderbird | 11:12 |
| bigcalm | Anyway, lunch | 11:12 |
| davmor2 | bigcalm: save on power and bandwidth the same as firefox maybe | 11:14 |
| DJones | In a day and age where everything about everybody seems to be online, you wouldn't think it would be so hard to find somebody who's gone missing | 11:46 |
| davmor2 | DJones: they can easily go offline | 11:50 |
| DJones | I think this is more a case that they disappeared before friends reunited, facebook etc appeared, possibly changed names, left the country and not had contact with anybody from their previous life | 11:52 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| BigRedS | bigcalm: One of the reasons I stopped using tb was that it seemed to never update without being asked to | 12:32 |
| BigRedS | and *still* ran away with all my memory. I kept thinking I had no mail, then clicked on the inbox and suddenly had 30 messages | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | I just used whatever was the default mail client at the time | 12:32 |
| bigcalm | Happy to try another client that will cope with 5 IMAP accounts and give me calendars | 12:33 |
| BigRedS | I use Mutt and Google Calendar. Two extremes :) | 12:33 |
| bigcalm | :D | 12:33 |
| BigRedS | I couldn't find a GUI mail client that wasn't rubbish | 12:33 |
| bigcalm | I don't want a web client and I prefer using the GUI | 12:33 |
| DJones | What alternatives are there to thunderbird though, multi account capeable, still being actively developed etc | 12:34 |
| BigRedS | Evolution? Someone here uses that and it seems a lot better htan it was | 12:34 |
| BigRedS | which, admittedly, isn't hard | 12:34 |
| BigRedS | but nobody develops mail clients any more. It's all about webmail. | 12:34 |
| DJones | I though Evolution was the one that wasn't being actively developed | 12:34 |
| popey | BigRedS: i dont get that with tb, but I have every folder set to be subscribed, and the tickbox to check for mail in this folder | 12:34 |
| popey | and I have about 30 folders set as "favorite" | 12:35 |
| popey | and only view those | 12:35 |
| BigRedS | popey: yeah, I had that. I spent a long time experimenting it 'cause I really like Mozilla and didn't want to dislike any of their software | 12:35 |
| BigRedS | this was ~11.10 though. I've been told it's better now, but mutt/offlineimap/msmtp is serving me pretty well | 12:35 |
| BigRedS | especially since configuring my mail client is now just a git checkout away :) | 12:36 |
| * popey hugs mutt | 12:37 | |
| DJones | I like the look of geary but I don't think its multi account capeable yet | 12:37 |
| popey | i think it does now | 12:39 |
| DJones | I'll have another look at it tonight | 12:41 |
| * penguin42 is a mutt user as well - albeit directly rather than via imap; I did remember finding it tricky to get imap connections to stay open | 12:42 | |
| popey | i use mutt directly now too | 12:43 |
| popey | offlineimap as a cron job which syncs imap mail to my machine and back | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 12:43 |
| shauno | yeah, mutt & maildir ftw | 12:43 |
| popey | which means mutt is super quick | 12:43 |
| penguin42 | popey: It's nice being able to check my 10k entry spam folder in about 30 seconds | 12:43 |
| mgdm | I use Mutt occasionally, directly on my mail server | 12:44 |
| bigcalm | Silly VirginMedia outages :( | 12:45 |
| * penguin42 has to admit that it's not *that* easy to read mail from a touchscreen phone with an ssh to mutt, but it does work :-) | 12:45 | |
| shauno | I just use my phone's native client via imap for that. but that's for putting out fires in the inbox, not sitting down witha glass and far too many MLs | 12:46 |
| bigcalm | popey: any news on a native email client for the touch os? Will it support multiple accounts? | 12:47 |
| popey | we're working on it | 12:48 |
| bigcalm | :) | 12:49 |
| popey | you're welcome to help ☺ | 12:49 |
| mgdm | what's it built in? | 12:49 |
| popey | it isnt yet | 12:49 |
| penguin42 | the tricky bit on a phone is getting the message density while still being able to navigate with big thick fingers | 12:50 |
| popey | we looked at trojita as a possible base | 12:50 |
| mgdm | I once experimented with tinymail for something like that | 12:51 |
| mgdm | though that just covers the IMAP part | 12:51 |
| popey | trojita doesn't do pop, needs a qml frontend made | 12:52 |
| bigcalm | geary looks nice, think it'll get multi-account support? | 13:00 |
| DJones | bigcalm: The website suggests its a known issue being worked on | 13:03 |
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| bigcalm | DJones: ah, I couldn't see it from my quick glance. Is it an old ticket? | 13:08 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|reboot | ||
| DJones | bigcalm: Looks like its already there http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03/desktop-e-mail-app-geary-adds-multiple-accounts | 13:11 |
| === slvr_ is now known as slvr | ||
| kvarley | How can I mount my nexus 10 in ubuntu? | 13:46 |
| kvarley | In MTP mode it doesn't appear in nautilus, only if I switch to PTP mode does it work but that seems to be just for camera pictures | 13:46 |
| kvarley | Ah, feature confirmed for 13.04 | 13:47 |
| popey | !info gmtp | 13:47 |
| lubotu3 | gmtp (source: gmtp): simple MP3 player client for MTP based devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.3-1 (quantal), package size 117 kB, installed size 394 kB | 13:47 |
| === Mez_ is now known as Mez | ||
| bigcalm | !ping | 14:22 |
| lubotu3 | pong! | 14:22 |
| bigcalm | !ding | 14:22 |
| lubotu3 | dong | 14:22 |
| bigcalm | !king | 14:22 |
| lubotu3 | kong | 14:22 |
| bigcalm | \o/ | 14:22 |
| mgdm | !pong | 14:23 |
| lubotu3 | pong is an old atari game. It's fun! | 14:23 |
| bigcalm | !kong | 14:23 |
| * bigcalm looks at Dave2 | 14:23 | |
| * Dave2 looks at bigcalm | 14:30 | |
| bigcalm | Choochoo | 14:31 |
| bigcalm | ? | 14:31 |
| Dave2 | oh, yes | 14:31 |
| Dave2 | I've just been looking at stuff for moar beer | 14:31 |
| Dave2 | (Reading beer festival) | 14:31 |
| bigcalm | Handy link for you: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ | 14:31 |
| Dave2 | thankse | 14:33 |
| davmor2 | Dave2: Why would you want to Read a beer festival, surely the aim is to drink :) | 14:33 |
| Dave2 | har har. | 14:33 |
| Dave2 | bigcalm: booked | 14:38 |
| bigcalm | ooo, The page shows my mug shot in the comments now, yay | 14:39 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: yayb \o/ | 14:39 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: yay beer \o/ | 14:39 |
| bigcalm | Dave2: add yourself in the comments :) | 14:39 |
| === RaycisCharles is now known as GentileBen | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea | ||
| Dave2 | bigcalm: done | 14:41 |
| bigcalm | Hazar | 14:41 |
| bigcalm | That's 6 people so far. Wonder if we'll get more | 14:44 |
| bigcalm | Erm, 7 people | 14:44 |
| bigcalm | Where's that aquarius gone? | 14:46 |
| aquarius | am provisionally up for it, but not yet sure, hence no response :) | 14:47 |
| bigcalm | aquarius: good show :) | 14:47 |
| bigcalm | aquarius: I shall be grilling Adam Sweet at the LUG tomorrow night | 14:47 |
| bigcalm | (in case that's an incentive) | 14:47 |
| dogmatic69 | I have a pc that is close to full (hdd). What are some good things to clean up on ubuntu? | 14:54 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: personal downloads, apt-cache | 14:54 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: log files | 14:54 |
| dogmatic69 | I have cleared out /var/log before with not much difference | 14:55 |
| AlanBell | use baobab to find the stuff | 14:55 |
| dogmatic69 | just looking at ~/ now and will try the apt-cache | 14:55 |
| dogmatic69 | hmm. I will check that. | 14:55 |
| dogmatic69 | AlanBell: I guess that lists big files? | 14:56 |
| AlanBell | it maps out directory sizes recursively | 14:56 |
| AlanBell | and shows you pretty pictures | 14:56 |
| bigcalm | dogmatic69: Disk Usage Analyser | 14:56 |
| dogmatic69 | bah. and its a server. no gui | 14:58 |
| davmor2 | dogmatic69: du -ha > file.size.txt | 15:02 |
| davmor2 | dogmatic69: do that from where ever you want to analyse | 15:03 |
| davmor2 | dogmatic69: it'll produce a huge file by the way and you'll get stuff like 1.2M./Pictures/2008/05/07/hpim0733.jpg | 15:04 |
| dogmatic69 | ye | 15:04 |
| dogmatic69 | I see. | 15:04 |
| === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g | ||
| dogmatic69 | davmor2: actuall baobab will work fine. I just run it from my pc like baobab /server-drive | 15:09 |
| davmor2 | dogmatic69: oh well there you go then | 15:09 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|life | ||
| andylockran | Anyone have recommendations on a home energy monitor ? | 19:00 |
| andylockran | reckon this looks good? http://www.edfenergy.com/products-services/for-your-home/ecomanager/ | 19:01 |
| dogmatic69 | andylockran: http://openenergymonitor.org/emon/ | 19:03 |
| andylockran | dogmatic69: that looks like too much effort :p | 19:07 |
| dogmatic69 | hehe | 19:07 |
| mungbean | andylockran: what do u want it to do | 19:18 |
| mungbean | i have a currentcost one i got for free | 19:19 |
| mungbean | gathers power and temperature readings and sends them to my low powered linux box, (think rasbpi type thing) | 19:22 |
| Seeker` | has anyone been skein hashing today? | 19:56 |
| mgdm | been what now? | 19:59 |
| mungbean | sounds a bit scottish | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | skein = password hashing thing, right/ | 20:00 |
| MartijnVdS | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skein_(hash_function) | 20:00 |
| mungbean | i been snipping rose bushes and mowing the lawn | 20:01 |
| Seeker` | MartijnVdS: yeah, related to yesterdays XKCD | 20:08 |
| zleap | hey tom | 20:23 |
| penguin42 | popey: I remember you were measuring some house temperatures; were those air temperatures or on the heating system itself? | 20:32 |
| popey | general house temp | 20:34 |
| penguin42 | popey: Thanks; I'm currently video recording the display on my boiler | 20:38 |
| popey | hows that working out? | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | sounds exciting | 20:38 |
| AlanBell | a youtube hit in the making | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | popey: Well I'm trying to get to the bottom of why my shower sometimes runs cold and it's a bit difficult to tell - the boiler doesn't really have enough info | 20:39 |
| penguin42 | AlanBell: Be careful, I was thinking of uploading it | 20:39 |
| popey | after how long does it go cold? | 20:40 |
| popey | while you're in it I guess? | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | popey: Yeh, and the problem is it's very very variable | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | popey: Some nights it doesn't do it, some just at the end, some fairly early on (and that's when it pisses me off) | 20:40 |
| penguin42 | http://www.treblig.org/daveG/boiler/ has videos | 20:41 |
| penguin42 | popey: The boiler display only shows the heating system temp not the hot water temp, so it's difficult to follow what's really going on | 20:41 |
| popey | and there's no hot water from taps either? | 20:42 |
| penguin42 | popey: on the one or two times I've managed to test that, no there isn't | 20:42 |
| * penguin42 suspects it might not do it tonight, it's a bit warmer | 20:45 | |
| popey | enthralling video penguin42 | 20:56 |
| penguin42 | popey: I like to think as the director, and special effects expert I did the most to make it interesting | 20:56 |
| penguin42 | popey: The bit I'd like to understand is about 9:50 or so into it, when it's starting to go cold and then the rest drops | 20:58 |
| bigcalm | popey: when was the last time you tried to ssh into a machine on your home network from an external source? | 21:13 |
| popey | uhm | 21:15 |
| popey | 3 seconds ago | 21:15 |
| bigcalm | Okay, so hopefully it's not a VirginMedia issue | 21:15 |
| bigcalm | I can't ssh into my home lan or even connect on port 80 | 21:16 |
| popey | what happens if you nmap yourself from outside? | 21:18 |
| bigcalm | Running that right now | 21:18 |
| * bigcalm twiddles thumbs | 21:19 | |
| bigcalm | It scanned 1000 ports and says they were all filtered | 21:23 |
| bigcalm | I haven't changed anything on my router recently, so I don't understand why it's stopped working now | 21:23 |
| popey | what is the router uptime? | 21:25 |
| bigcalm | 4h 20m 1s | 21:26 |
| bigcalm | Going to try rebooting the modem in a bit | 21:26 |
| popey | have you ssh'ed since then? | 21:26 |
| bigcalm | That shouldn't make a bit of difference :S | 21:26 |
| bigcalm | No | 21:26 |
| bigcalm | I've tried | 21:26 |
| bigcalm | Doesn't work for me | 21:27 |
| bigcalm | I've just added port forwarding to allow ssh to a workstation. That's timing out as well | 21:28 |
| bigcalm | What's the default IP address of the VM super hub? | 21:32 |
| bigcalm | 0.1 | 21:32 |
| bigcalm | Ta | 21:32 |
| popey | wb | 21:39 |
| bigcalm_ | That's interesting. The SuperHub had switched out of Modem Only Mode | 21:39 |
| popey | odd | 21:39 |
| bigcalm_ | Thanks | 21:39 |
| popey | that explains it | 21:39 |
| === bigcalm_ is now known as bigcalm | ||
| bigcalm | I'm guessing that VM forced a modem update upon the hardware | 21:42 |
| bigcalm | Sod, IP address has changed now :) | 21:43 |
| bigcalm | That'll be why I cannie connect on the old IP address | 21:44 |
| bigcalm | That's Blue Shift finished | 22:41 |
| bigcalm | Now to start up Opposing Forces | 22:43 |
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