ahoneybunDo I need to be running the latest Kubuntu image to help out>01:17
Riddellahoneybun: hi08:20
Riddellyou don't need to be running the latest although it helps for a lot of things, virtual machines can be used if you don't want to install it directly08:21
Mamarokyofel: don't know if this is worth updating the package, but we have quite a few 12.04 users for Amarok 2.7, and 2.5 is really too old now08:53
Riddellgo go beta testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds09:47
Riddell!ninjas | beta testing09:47
ubottubeta testing: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel09:47
smartboyhwRiddell: Wrong factoid?09:48
Riddell!testers | beta testing09:48
ubottubeta testing: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.09:48
smartboyhwAnd why aren't Murthy + me in the Ninjas factoid? LOL09:48
Riddellsmartboyhw: feel free to update it :)09:49
smartboyhwRiddell: I'm on mobile.....09:49
smartboyhwHow to?09:49
Riddellsmartboyhw: /msg ubottu I think09:50
smartboyhwRiddell erm that will kill me typing in my small smartphone (GALAXY Pocket, old 2.3 version)09:51
Riddellubottu: no ninjas is apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy 09:52
Riddellthink that did it09:52
ubottuNinja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel09:52
smartboyhwRiddell no09:52
Riddellsmartboyhw: it needs to be manually approved09:53
Tm_TRiddell: on it09:55
soeeRiddell, ninjas ppa ?09:57
soeeah its iso09:57
ubottuNinja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel09:57
Riddellthere is also 4.10.2 in ninjas PPA for the testing09:58
Tm_Tubottu: no, ninjas-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Ninja Time! apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy09:59
ubottuI'll remember that Tm_T09:59
soeeRiddell, it is ready ? 09:59
Tm_TRiddell: does that factoid be needed elsewhere than in this channel only?09:59
RiddellTm_T: nope09:59
Riddellsoee: dunno that's what the testing would be about :)10:00
Tm_TRiddell: thanks, I'll drop the global one10:00
soeeRiddell, i see pykde4 failed to build ?10:00
Riddellsoee: yeah, a mystery so far that one10:01
Riddellwhee Muon 2! http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/muon-suite-2-0-0-released/10:11
* smartboyhw hopes his application for Ubuntu RMB will get througj10:22
Riddellright mouse button?10:23
Riddellyou have a context menu to show the world?10:23
smartboyhwLOL Regional Membership Board10:23
smartboyhwRiddell: You making post-April Fools Day joke!?10:23
Riddellnope, I'd never seen that acronym before10:24
Riddellbe careful not to overreach yourself, very easy to get spread too thin in open source development10:24
smartboyhwAnyway it just one meeting per month10:24
smartboyhwNot too much10:24
smartboyhwI really hate April Fools Day this year10:25
RiddellI'm sure you'll think of a way to get ogra back10:26
Riddellreject his application to be a member of ubuntu in asia :)10:26
smartboyhwRiddell nah 10:26
smartboyhwWe solved the thing in yesterday's #ubuntu-release10:26
smartboyhwRiddell:It is the first joke that hit me a lot more10:27
Riddellwhich one was that?10:27
smartboyhwRiddell: Change of project lead in Ubuntu Studio10:28
smartboyhwI miss ScottL10:28
smartboyhwRiddell: Isn't ogra an Ubuntu member?10:28
Riddellsmartboyhw: yes, but I trumped him by 2 minutes to be the first ubuntu member10:28
Riddellalthough I'm restricted to only uploading packages beginning with a k10:29
lordievader I'm afraid I don't have much time the coming weeks to test the beta. My test week is coming up, I really need to study. Sorry, hope I can squeeze in a test here and there.10:36
smartboyhwuh oh10:36
* yofel is on a trip till weekend and can't test anything - crappy connection10:38
smartboyhwRiddel wait a minute how come an Ubuntu membership application cost 2 min? (According to time diff between you and ogra_)10:38
smartboyhwOH NO10:38
smartboyhwI might not be able to either10:38
Riddelllordievader: good luck testing10:39
Riddellyofel: have fun tripping10:39
smartboyhwI have a lot more to do tmr for Ubuntu Studio (testing + release)10:39
Riddellsmartboyhw: well it might have been 5 minutes I beat him by, it was many years ago10:39
smartboyhwNaming me Release Manager just makes it worse lol10:39
smartboyhwRiddell, 5 minutes is also very short10:40
smartboyhwmine took 1310:42
smartboyhw(Accorrding to the IRC logs10:42
Tm_Tsmartboyhw_: it's anything between 2 minutes to 3010:45
Tm_Tsmartboyhw_: and the process was bit different back then... (:10:46
smartboyhw_Tm_T never saw one having 2 min10:46
Tm_Tsmartboyhw_: did you see any approvals back in 200...5 6 or 7 ? (:10:47
smartboyhw_Tm_T trying to see logs of Riddell and ogra application10:48
Riddellclaydoh, SteveRiley, Darkwing, valorie: anyone fancy doing the beta 2 notes?10:48
Riddellsmartboyhw_: 2004 I think10:49
smartboyhw_Riddell: Weird according to Launchpad you are 14 days later then pgr10:49
kubotusmartboyhw_ meant: "Riddell: Weird according to Launchpad you are 14 days later then ogra_"10:49
Riddellbah, I always said launchpad was buggy10:50
smartboyhw_Riddell BAH can't find the logs10:59
Riddelllost in the mists of time :)11:00
smartboyhw_Riddell you remember getting membership through CC or TB?11:03
yofeldid those even exist in 2004?11:04
Riddellthey were both finding their feet11:04
smartboyhw_yofel: They do11:04
RiddellI think it was CC for membership then TB for universe then TB again for main11:04
smartboyhw_Riddell you remember where your membership meeting was held? #ubuntu-meeting right?11:08
Riddellsmartboyhw_: probably, but it was a long time ago!11:10
Riddellthat channel might not have been logged then11:10
smartboyhw_Riddell: It is logges11:11
smartboyhw_But I can't find membership things im 200411:11
smartboyhw_Hmm the membership process seems weird at that time11:17
smartboyhw_You sign the CoC and send it to somebody11:17
smartboyhw_Riddell: It makes sense niw11:18
Riddellit wasn't built into launchpad11:18
smartboyhw_Anyways, quest stop11:19
Riddellshame I was looking forward to old memories :)11:20
smartboyhw_Riddell: How many people you know have special Kubuntu Members user Avatars in Ubuntu Forums?11:25
BluesKajHey folks11:26
smartboyhw_Hello BluesKaj11:28
BluesKajhey smartboyhw_11:28
Riddellsmartboyhw_: mm what's a special Kubuntu Members user Avatar?11:29
Tm_Twhich forums?11:36
Riddellgosh, the low disk space warning just popped up11:37
RiddellI'd forgotten enturely about that11:37
Riddellbest delete some things :)11:37
Riddellrm -r  4.8  4.8.5  4.8.80  4.8.90  4.8done  4.9.0  4.9.1  4.9.2  4.9.3  4.9.80  4.9.90  4.9.95  4.9.97  4.9.98  that should free up some11:38
soeeyofel, 4.10.2 for raring is ready ?11:50
Riddellsoee: needs testing11:51
soeeRiddell, i can try it here on my work machine as its runngin raring11:51
soeeRiddell, what pa is it ? i have only yofels here at work on my list :)11:54
soeeyuo its 4.10.2 there, just tell me if i should use them 11:58
smartboyhwRiddell: Ubuntu Forums at ubuntuforums.org11:59
smartboyhwIf you are a Ubuntu member you get "Ubuntu Member" with five Ubuntu logos12:00
smartboyhwunder your username12:00
smartboyhwFor Kubuntu Members you get "Kubuntu member" with a Kubuntu logo12:01
smartboyhwLike me:)12:01
smartboyhwUbuntu Forums is indeed sponsored by Canonical BTW12:01
Tm_Tlike this? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=171527812:03
Tm_Tvbulletin ):12:03
Tm_Tit needs its own registration, no likey12:04
Tm_Tand I don't see openid option, no likey12:04
Tm_Tsame here btw http://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php12:05
smartboyhwDo Kubuntu members get special things like in the Ubuntu Forums? LOL12:07
smartboyhwRiddell: ^12:07
Tm_TI presume we don't use forums much12:07
* Tm_T doesn't, never learned 'em12:07
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Riddellsmartboyhw: special things?12:24
smartboyhwLike what Tm_T postes12:25
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Like what Tm_T posted"12:26
smartboyhwRiddell: ^12:27
Riddell svgpart (4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu4:4.10.2~ubuntu12.10~ppa1~ppa1) quantal; urgency=low12:35
Riddellhmm I might not have quite understood this backport script12:35
yofelis that the up-to-date version from bzr?12:35
yofelas I remember seeing that12:36
Riddellyep, I ran it with  ./kubuntu-batch-backport -v 4.10.2 -f raring -t quantal -V 4:4.10.2~ubuntu12.10~ppa112:36
kubotuyofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"12:36
soeeyofel, can i use your ninja to update to 4.10.2 /12:36
Riddellsoee: yes, please do, testing needed12:36
yofelsoee: yes12:36
smartboyhw!testers Please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds12:37
ubottusmartboyhw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:37
Riddellsmartboyhw: needs a pipe I think12:38
smartboyhw!testers | Please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds12:38
ubottuPlease test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.12:38
shadeslayer"Pipe this into that"12:40
shadeslayerwhen saying that around normal people they'll think you're a plumber12:40
yofelnormal people are weird12:43
soeeRiddell, no errors when upgrading12:50
soeewill reboot now12:50
BluesKajthe ninjas ppas are disorganized jumbled , and poorly linked .. a proper url containing the build is in order here.12:54
soeeRiddell, upgrade 4.10.1 => 4.10.2 on Raring - finished without problems12:54
Riddellsoee: awooga12:55
Riddellsoee: able to do any iso testing?12:55
yofelBluesKaj: there is only one ninja PPA, and that is private. So you need to be either a ninja, or need to ask one to get access to it. And that's intentional12:55
soeeRiddell, not now - im at work but i can test later after 20:00 cet12:56
BluesKajyofel:  fine , but if you want testers then they should have access to a site containing said app. 12:59
RiddellBluesKaj: app?  it's a PPA and we give out details to anyone willing to test13:00
BluesKajanyway , if you guys can come up with a link , I'll gladly give KDE SC 4.10.2 a try13:01
BluesKajapp ok , I meant the conting ppa 13:02
RiddellBluesKaj: /msg'ed13:02
BluesKajcontaining rather13:03
Quintasantesting 4.10.213:04
QuintasanI might as well as reinstall to raring13:06
smartboyhwWhat happened?13:07
ScottKyofel: Why do we need a Kubuntu backport script?  Why not just use backportpackage?13:08
yofelScottK: does backportpackage support package-specific sed commands that should be run during the backport?13:09
ScottKLike what?  What are you trying to change?13:09
BluesKajok ,installing now13:09
yofelScottK: various things like boost version in control files, kde-runtime needs a patch and a few runtime deps removed for precise and so on13:10
yofelyou need to do that *every* time13:10
ScottKI see.13:10
ScottKNo, it doesn't, but it might make sense to see about merging that into the regular backportpackage rather than maintain something entirely our own.13:10
ScottKI can imagine use cases for such things outside Kubuntu.13:11
yofeltrue, would require porting the stuff to backportpackage then. it's python while kubuntu-batch-backport is bash13:12
smartboyhwRiddell: I saw that Kubuntu guys will meet with CC tmr right?13:12
Riddellsmartboyhw: it's in my calendar, not heard anything from them, do you know who would be good to contact?13:13
apacheloggerScottK, yofel: doesn't kbackport work on bzr?13:13
yofelwhat's kbackport?13:14
apacheloggerif so we'd still want a harness anyway13:14
apacheloggerour backport script thing13:14
apacheloggerwhatever it is called13:14
apacheloggerisn't that crappy to use then?13:14
smartboyhwRiddell: Go to #ubuntu-community-team and find czajowski or lyz (aka pleia2) or even dholbach13:15
yofelapachelogger: how is using pull-ppa-source + debuild crappier to use than bzr branch and bzr builddeb?13:15
apacheloggerperhaps I don't get what the script does13:15
yofelessentially pull-ppa-source, dch, run a script, debuild -S -us -uc13:16
apacheloggersounds slow what with pull-ppa-source13:16
yofelthat in a loop for all packages in the backport list13:16
yofelit is a bit when launchpad is starved on bandwidth :/13:17
yofelsure you *could* pull the original tars from somewhere else, but that's more special-handling than I wanted to do13:17
apacheloggerhence why I thought it woudl use bzr13:17
apacheloggerbut oh well13:17
yofelthis is the portable version of a script I wrote on a whim. It's not like changing it to use bzr would be a lot of work13:18
shadeslayer-- Installing: /build/buildd/ktp-common-internals-0.6.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libktpwidgetsprivate.so.0.6.013:20
shadeslayer-- Installing: /build/buildd/ktp-common-internals-0.6.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libktpwidgetsprivate.so.513:20
shadeslayerI don't even ....13:20
BluesKajwhat's the word on the kde framework 5 , saw some artcles about it yesterday and how it's supposedly paving the way for wayland to replace X in the not too distant future ...is this just speculation or is there some truth to it?13:22
Riddellshadeslayer: you can do all sorts of weird things with library versions13:22
murthyhello everyone13:26
smartboyhwHey murthy:)13:27
smartboyhwGot some time to do some testing?13:27
BluesKajok ,reboot ..hope to be back soon :)13:27
murthysmartboyhw: nope, busy with nootka13:27
murthyBluesKaj: hi13:27
murthyRiddell: pm?13:32
Riddellmurthy: can do13:34
BluesKajKDE SC 4.10.2 seems ok so far , but the pager icons bug is still apparent , a small issue but annoying13:34
Riddellpager icons bug?13:35
smartboyhwpager?! Who uses that?13:35
BluesKajin the pager settings there;s a show icons option in the virtual desktops in the panel , they aren't showing up13:36
BluesKajI do . aamof I prefer them13:36
* smartboyhw would want a old Macintosh rather than a pager13:38
BluesKajuhm smartboyhw , not a pager device , the virtualk desktop pager in the panel 13:39
BluesKajyeah sure :)13:40
smartboyhwshadeslayer: What happened to http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/?14:08
shadeslayerI could keep using ec2 instances14:13
shadeslayeryofel: does lxc work yet?14:14
yofelwith some manual adjustment of the pre-upgrade OS, it does.14:14
yofelI was a bit short on time lately, so I haven't worked out a scripted setup of that yet14:15
Quintasanit werks(TM)14:21
Riddellmurthy: nootka compiling away now in screen session14:22
murthyRiddell: ya, i have been watching all the way14:23
Riddellmurthy: all yours :)14:23
QuintasanWhat is nootka anyways?14:23
murthycan you give me the log of what you did now, so that i will so the next time14:23
murthyRiddell: ^14:23
smartboyhwQuintasan: Music app14:23
Quintasansmartboyhw: I could guess that since it sounds like one, what does it actually do14:24
Riddellmurthy: you can get one through running "history" I guss14:24
murthyok. so next time i have to just ssh and screen -x ?14:24
Riddellmurthy: assuming screen is still running yes14:26
QuintasanThat Nepomuk Cleaner should really inside the KCM14:26
murthyRiddell: ok14:26
Quintasansame for the Nepomuk Database backuping application14:26
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Quintasanwhy the hell icedtea-7-plugin has deps on gnome15:09
Quintasanthis is useless15:09
tsimpsonit doesn't, it has deps on glib/gtk+15:13
Quintasanostaną zainstalowane następujące dodatkowe pakiety:15:13
Quintasan  desktop-file-utils gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common gvfs gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs icedtea-netx icedtea-netx-common libatk-wrapper-java15:13
Quintasan  libatk-wrapper-java-jni libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgconf-2-4 libgconf2-4 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-bin libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libidl-common libidl015:13
Quintasan  liborbit2 libsecret-1-0 libsecret-common libudisks2-0 openjdk-7-jre policykit-1-gnome ttf-dejavu-extra udisks215:13
tsimpsonthough someone obviously thought it would be funny if openjdk-7-jre recommended libgnome2-015:13
Quintasanthat's otally not gnome15:13
tsimpson--no-install-recommends to the rescue15:14
Quintasanthis shouldn't be there15:14
tsimpsonit was a hard dependency in oneiric it seems, became a recommend in precise15:17
murthysmartboyhw: are you there?15:25
smartboyhwmurthy: yep15:26
murthysmartboyhw: nootka error,15:26
murthysmartboyhw: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/nootka/usr/bin/nootka contains an unresolvable reference to symbol __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr1@GCC_3.5:15:26
murthysmartboyhw: build succeeded for arm with 1 file, 1 line changed15:27
smartboyhwRiddell: ^15:27
smartboyhwmurthy: good15:27
murthysmartboyhw: you did the control file for nootka right?15:27
smartboyhwmurthy: Wait a minute you are using the version from my main ppa right?15:27
smartboyhwThat's the old version15:28
Riddellmurthy: you fixed the patch?15:28
murthysmartboyhw: dont know, we have to ask Riddell15:28
murthyRiddell: ya, build succeeded15:28
murthyRiddell: except for the signing part15:28
murthyRiddell: gpg key error15:28
Riddellmurthy: great15:29
murthyRiddell: how do i scroll up?15:29
smartboyhwmurthy: Ah I remember: You need to delete qtmultimedia-dev and remove debian/docs15:29
smartboyhwNice job on getting ARM done15:29
murthysmartboyhw: i had removed debian docs, have to remove qtmultimedia-dev15:29
murthysmartboyhw: credit goes to Riddell15:29
smartboyhwmurthy: sure he is:)15:30
smartboyhwmurthy: Strange why is gpg key having an error?15:30
murthysmartboyhw: i guess there is no key 15:31
smartboyhwmurthy: What do you mean? 15:31
murthysmartboyhw: http://paste.kde.org/715088/15:31
smartboyhwYou don't create a GPG key for packaging?15:32
smartboyhwDamn use your name instead of mine LOL15:32
Riddellit's a chroot on an insecure machine, no gpg key on there15:33
murthyRiddell: wait15:35
murthyRiddell: i did dpkg-source --commit already15:35
murthyscreen just got terminated15:35
smartboyhwmurthy: You clearly didn't change debian/changelog15:35
murthysmartboyhw: no15:35
murthysmartboyhw: I was just testing a change15:35
murthysmartboyhw: there wont be any changes to the changelog15:35
murthyi am not sure15:35
murthyRiddell: whats happeniing?15:36
Riddellmurthy: I'm grabbing your patch15:39
Riddellprobably I killed the screen session in the process15:39
murthyRiddell: shall i put it in my bzr branch?15:39
murthyRiddell: will you be updating what smartboyhw said in debian/  ?15:40
Riddellmurthy: yes can do15:42
Riddelli'll add a changelog15:42
Riddellmurthy: uploaded!15:43
murthyRiddell: cool15:44
Quintasanthat reminds me I need to copy my gpg keys to mah laptop15:44
murthyRiddell: where can i see the build log?15:44
Riddellmurthy: it'll appear on launchpad when it's built15:44
Riddellyofel: can you make a magic status for 4.10.2 in quantal and precise?15:46
Riddellright, time to get on with some ISO testing15:46
Riddellgo go iso testers!15:46
BluesKajhow long before KDE SC 4.10.2 is in the backports so i can remove the ninja ppa ?, the gpg error is annoying15:50
yofelRiddell: should be up, no?15:52
BluesKajfunny how little things annoy me nowadays :)15:52
smartboyhwRiddell: Would it be good to add nootka into the repos after it has been built?15:53
yofelBluesKaj: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0945A8E215:54
yofelshould resolve the key warning on ninjas15:54
BluesKajthanks yofel :)15:56
smartboyhwIsn't 15:56
smartboyhwBluesKaj  a ninja?15:57
smartboyhw(testing purposes)15:57
yofelgpg warnings have nothing to do with that ^^15:57
BluesKajyes ninja ppa , smartboyhw_15:58
murthyRiddell: this is the changelog for nootka? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/nootka/+changelog15:59
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murthysmartboyhw: can you help me?16:01
smartboyhwmurthy: With what?16:01
murthysmartboyhw: i need to see the patch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/nootka16:01
smartboyhwmurthy: BTW all builds has failed for new -0ubuntu316:04
yofelmurthy: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/nootka/raring-proposed/files/head:/debian/patches/16:04
smartboyhwyofel: -0ubuntu2 or -0ubuntu3?16:05
yofelah, that's ubuntu216:05
yofelstupid bzr importers16:05
murthywrong patch i guess16:06
murthyRiddell: are you there?16:06
murthyyofel: this is the new patch?16:07
murthyyofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/nootka/raring-proposed/view/head:/debian/patches/qmaxqminarm.patch16:07
murthysmartboyhw: thats the new patch?16:08
smartboyhwmurthy: -0ubuntu2 old patch16:09
murthyyofel: smartboyhw  this is the patch that has to be used http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka/files/head:/debian/patches/16:10
smartboyhwmurthy: Make sure your patch doesn't break16:10
murthyis this one used?16:10
smartboyhwamd64 & i386 build16:10
smartboyhwmurthy: It is used in -0ubuntu3, but it hasn't been imported to that bzr branch16:11
murthysmartboyhw: please give me the link to the new patch16:11
smartboyhwmurthy: NO LINK16:11
smartboyhwmurthy: Be patient16:11
smartboyhwAnd wait for the UDD importer to import16:12
murthysmartboyhw: did this get uploaded? https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka16:12
smartboyhwmurthy: Create a new directory and dget -x https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/nootka_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu3.dsc and look into the directory produced. It should have your patch16:15
QuintasanRiddell: Crap, I forgot to upload plasma-widget-redshift, think we still can do anything about this or I upload to PPA and then upload to S when it's open?16:15
murthysmartboyhw: from my observation Riddell has used the previous patch16:16
smartboyhwQuintasan, Riddell: Can FFe still be filed?16:16
smartboyhwmurthy: Kill Riddell then16:16
* BluesKaj calls security16:17
smartboyhwmurthy: According to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/136046028/nootka_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu2_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu3.diff.gz the diff shows you are correct16:18
smartboyhwBluesKaj lol16:18
murthysmartboyhw: means wrong patch?16:18
smartboyhwmurthy: Yes16:18
murthysmartboyhw: thank god16:18
* smartboyhw stares at Riddell16:18
Riddellsmartboyhw: eek!16:18
QuintasanOne does not simply kill Riddell16:19
murthyI was afraid that i did something wrong16:19
yofelsmartboyhw: FFE is possible till final freeze16:19
yofelso yes16:19
smartboyhwQuintasan: Then?16:19
Riddellthey tried that already, I came back from my island exile to thwart them16:19
Quintasanthen we still can do something about that16:20
yofelthough you might need a UIFE or so too by now16:20
yofeldepending on what you want to do16:20
smartboyhwQuintasan: File an UIFe + FFe then16:20
Quintasanyofel: I was supposed to upload plasma-widget-redshift16:20
QuintasanI packaged it but forgot to upload16:20
yofelQuintasan: FFE would suffice I believe16:20
QuintasanWe need Riddell and ScottK do the combowombo they did for my previous upload16:21
smartboyhwYeah plasma-widget-redshift won't increase sales in UI 16:21
* Riddell dances the combowombo with ScottK 16:21
smartboyhwRiddell lol16:21
Riddellmurthy: nootka_0.8.60~beta-0ubuntu4_source.changes uploaded16:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: what is plasma-widget-redshift?16:22
smartboyhwRiddell: Ask Quintasan16:22
QuintasanRiddell: This is KDE integration bit for Redshift which is supposed to automagically adjust the screen hue according to the Sun's position16:25
smartboyhwSomeone ACK nootka in...16:26
* sreich likes redshift16:27
Riddellsreich: really? that's useful?16:32
yofelQuintasan: what does it do at night? ^^16:33
sreichyofel: goes to the reddest mode there is16:33
smartboyhwyofel nice one;)16:33
sreichRiddell: it eliminates eyestrain and also helps you sleep afterwards16:33
QuintasanIt tells you you should fucking go to bed already16:33
yofelhm, I don't like looking at red screens all night :S16:34
smartboyhwQuintasan: Mind language please....16:34
sreichyofel: blue screens are worse for eyestrain and such16:34
sreichblue light in general is quite unhealthy16:34
smartboyhwHow about green?16:34
Quintasansreich: I can already see you loving Windows16:34
smartboyhwOh no16:34
yofelwe should go back to sweet orange ubuntu :D16:35
smartboyhwWe should go back to sweet blue Kubuntu:D16:35
QuintasanRiddell: dget -xu http://people.ubuntu.com/~quintasan/uploads/plasma-widget-redshift_0.6-0ubuntu1.dsc16:36
* Quintasan goes to shop for food16:36
smartboyhwQuintasan: What does -u in dget do?16:37
ScottKActually no.16:37
smartboyhwI thought it auto unpacks for me.16:37
ScottKThat's -x (for extract)16:37
ScottKThe -u will unpack even if the key doesn't verify.16:37
smartboyhwQuintasan: Lol16:37
Quintasanmy bad there smartboyhw16:37
ScottKSo -xu is unpack unverified.16:37
sreichRiddell: read http://stereopsis.com/flux/research.html for detailed stuff16:37
sreich""Recognizes that exposure to excessive light at night, including extended use of various electronic media, can disrupt sleep or exacerbate sleep disorders, especially in children and adolescents. This effect can be minimized by using dim red lighting in the nighttime bedroom environment.""16:38
sreich"The experimental research suggests that an average person reading on a tablet for a couple hours before bed may find that their sleep is delayed by about an hour. "16:38
* sreich would prefer not having to toss and turn for an hour ;)16:38
smartboyhwmurthy: The package + new patch is in and building16:39
RiddellQuintasan: best ask for a FFe16:39
murthysmartboyhw: ok16:40
sreichkinda useless for most of the day time though16:40
smartboyhwmurthy: Did you remove qtmultimedia5-dev?16:40
smartboyhwI don't think you did16:40
murthysmartboyhw: from my branch?16:41
smartboyhwthe powerpc build has an dependency wait.16:41
smartboyhwmurthy: Basically yes16:41
smartboyhwThe dep wait is qtmultimedia5-dec16:41
murthysmartboyhw: i did , https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka16:41
smartboyhwmurthy, I advice you to kill Riddell again.16:42
* smartboyhw stares at Riddell again16:43
Quintasanwell yeah16:43
QuintasanRiddell: redshift segfaults at start here so I'm not even bothering16:43
QuintasanI really do need food now16:44
murthysmartboyhw: i had already asked him to implement the changes you ie, the removal of the debian/docs and  the qtmultimedia depends16:44
smartboyhwmurthy and he didn't (according to the diff)16:44
murthysmartboyhw: oh16:45
RiddellQuintasan: plasmoid loads ok for me, but I can't get it to do much16:45
smartboyhwyofel: Please suggest a way to kill Riddell for one hour:)16:45
* smartboyhw gets extremely violent16:46
ScottKsmartboyhw: You could do some ISO testing.16:46
ScottKFocus you energies in a productive way.16:46
smartboyhwScottK: I am talking to you through mobile.16:46
smartboyhwI can't get to my computer16:47
smartboyhwAnd I should be asleep NOW16:47
smartboyhwAnd I haven't done any tests for Ubuntu Studio.16:47
* skellat ponders which lullaby would be good for smartboyhw16:47
smartboyhwskellat: Grrr16:48
murthysmartboyhw: I could have helped with the testing but i am having a tight schedule because of exams, very sorry16:49
smartboyhwEveryone is busy this week it seems16:50
murthysmartboyhw: really?16:50
smartboyhwTmr is Ching Ming Festival (a holiday to pay tributes to ancestors)16:50
smartboyhwmurthy: lordievader unavailable, yofel unavailable16:51
smartboyhwI might be unavailable too tmr16:51
murthysmartboyhw: cool, enjoy the festival 16:51
smartboyhwmurthy: Thats not enjoyable16:51
smartboyhwThe core reason is that tmr I will be busy with Ubuntu Studioatters.16:52
smartboyhws/Studioatters/Studio matters/16:53
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "The core reason is that tmr I will be busy with Ubuntu Studio matters."16:53
shadeslayerstudio hatters16:54
smartboyhwshadeslayer: matters not hatters16:55
shadeslayerbut hats are cool16:55
smartboyhwshadeslayer but thank you for providing ideas to our new merchandise16:56
smartboyhwAnd re-back lol16:58
smartboyhwmurthy: All the builds work (except Riddell needs to fix the dependency issue for powerpc)17:00
Riddellwhy moi?17:01
smartboyhwRiddell em you didn't remove qtmultimedia5-dev for murthy17:01
Riddellsmartboyhw: yes my bad17:02
murthysmartboyhw: checking17:03
murthysmartboyhw: very nice, build succeeded, this is my first debian patch :)17:04
apacheloggerour lightdm is still broken17:32
Riddellapachelogger: how?17:33
apacheloggerblack text on dark background17:33
apacheloggerno JT around :S17:36
apacheloggerRiddell: does the new doctor who episode get any better after the first minute?17:37
murthyRiddell: I am getting this error "scp: .: not a regular file"17:39
murthyapachelogger: are you going to fix lightdm greeter?17:43
apacheloggerI wouldn't know how17:44
apacheloggerd_ed wanted to though17:44
smartboyhwapachelogger let him do it!17:44
murthyapachelogger: we just dropped the new greeter?17:45
lordievaderGood evening17:45
murthylordievader: hi17:45
lordievaderHey murthy, how are you?17:45
murthylordievader: fine, how are you?17:45
lordievadermurthy: Bit busy, but furthermore allright :)17:46
apacheloggermurthy: there was no new greeter17:46
apacheloggerwell there was, it just wasn;t in raring17:46
murthyapachelogger: the one with the animated clock?17:46
apacheloggerand since according to the mailing list no one wants the theme sheytan proposed we are kinda stuck with what we have right now17:47
murthyapachelogger: ah, i remember now, its sheytan's theme17:47
murthyapachelogger: for 13.10?17:47
apacheloggerit all depends on whether people want it ...17:48
apacheloggerthough I think upstream was going to include parts of it somehow or something17:48
apacheloggerso we may end up with it via upstream anyway17:48
murthycan someone help to use scp?17:54
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murthyRiddell: need help with scp18:03
yofelmurthy: are you sure the file you're copying actually exists?18:04
murthyyofel: ls shows it18:04
yofeltried sftp instead?18:04
murthyyofel: no, going to try18:05
murthyyofel: i just ran "sftp -P 100 xyz@abc: /home/file" and the prompt has changed to sftp>18:09
murthyyofel: got it18:12
soeecan someone send me ninja ppa so i can test 4.10.2 on my laptop at home ?18:15
yofelsoee: pm18:21
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ScottKNice: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Security-updates-break-ownCloud-installations-1834507.html18:31
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xnoxScottK: Riddell: I've looked at libindicate-qt and messaging-menu. I don't feel like writting DBUS server in Qt and implementing libmessaging-menu like api both on the server and client size and then porting the plasma widget and then port the 6 apps that depend on it.19:19
xnoxlooking at the code it shouldn't be very difficult, but simply very boring =) as it's been implemented before in both gtk&qt and now it's redone with slightly more sane api.19:20
xnoxI guess it could be done in stages - e.g. just do client size libindicate-qt & test it in a unity/gnome session. And then hope that somebody will port/write qt style server and plasma-widget.19:21
ScottKxnox: The Qt/Plasma stuff is unmaintained.  We'll probably just remove it then.19:25
ScottKWhich I find unfortunate.19:25
xnoxScottK: at least porting the client api binding would be nice for Qt/Kde apps to integrate with Unity desktop. But I suspect there will be another iteration of all things messaging comming along with unitynext and desktop convergence in Qt5/Qml style anyway.19:26
jussiladies and gents of the KC19:26
jussiI will not make it to the CC catchup tomorrow, can someone please pass on my apologies? 19:26
jussiScottK: perhaps? 19:27
ScottKxnox: Since this is already accepted in various upstream projects, it'd be nice if Canonical did just ignore backwards compatibility for once, but I don't hold my breath.19:27
ScottKjussi: First I heard of it.19:27
jussiScottK: iirc it was that they wanted to communicate that to us that I setup the ml...19:27
jussiits my birthday and I have other things to do19:28
ScottKHow'd you hear about it?19:28
xnoxScottK: there is FFe in quantal cycle for porting stuff to messaging-menu. In gtk world I have only one reverse-depends left, and I could upload a massive patch to fix it up, but it would require an FFe/UIFe for that leaf universe package. In the kde world, I take it a few packages will need to disable compiling against libindicate and then libindicate[-qt] & plasma-widget can be dropped from the archive all together.19:29
xnoxScottK: do you want to do this for raring or do it in s-series?19:30
ScottKDoes it still work now?19:30
jussiScottK: apart from the fact Im subscribed to the CC wiki page, Im pretty sure we had an email about it several months back19:30
xnoxScottK: in Kde it does.19:30
ScottKxnox: Then let's leave it.19:30
xnoxScottK: for the 6 kde/qt apps together with the plasma widget. But none of them work on the unity/gnome desktop.19:31
ScottKUnfortunate that Canonical doesn't care about interoperaiblity.19:31
ScottKNot my problem.19:31
jussiScottK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda19:34
ScottKI see.  Nice of them to reach out.19:35
jussiScottK: you may want to raise that issue with them tomorrow...19:37
jussido we still have a "full" version of kubuntu? 20:05
yofelthere is kubuntu-full, but no DVD image if you meant that20:06
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apacheloggerI dunno21:38
apacheloggerraring doesn't feel as perfect as it should have been21:38
apacheloggerkickoff's gone completely mad21:40
apachelogger3 nepomuk entries of which I am not sure what they do and 2 of them appear in at least 2 categories21:40
Riddellapachelogger: blame vHanda ?22:07
apacheloggeryes bad vHanda22:26
apacheloggerRiddell: is it just me or is the wallpaper on lightdm not actually smoothly scaled?22:26
apacheloggerseems to me it is not actually using a smoothing filter or something22:27
Riddellapachelogger: my netbook agrees22:31
Riddellksplash has much better smoothing22:31
RiddellI wonder why, QML should just good at that sort of thing22:31
Riddellif you don't get your arm machines working with raring I wonder if it's worth me working out how to get one of these pandaboards to be online and available22:35
apacheloggeraren't they working?22:44
apacheloggerRiddell: regarding lightdm I do think that git master does not have the problem22:44
apacheloggerso we should be able to fix that22:45
Riddellapachelogger: that was to ScottK, his machines aren't working with raring22:46
Riddellapachelogger: should be a case of talking nicely to d_ed22:46
apacheloggerI thought the raring thing was being addressed already22:48
ScottKIt's on my TODO.23:28

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