[01:17] Do I need to be running the latest Kubuntu image to help out> [08:20] ahoneybun: hi [08:21] you don't need to be running the latest although it helps for a lot of things, virtual machines can be used if you don't want to install it directly [08:53] yofel: don't know if this is worth updating the package, but we have quite a few 12.04 users for Amarok 2.7, and 2.5 is really too old now [09:47] go go beta testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/264/builds [09:47] !ninjas | beta testing [09:47] beta testing: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [09:48] Riddell: Wrong factoid? [09:48] mm [09:48] !testers | beta testing [09:48] beta testing: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [09:48] And why aren't Murthy + me in the Ninjas factoid? LOL [09:49] smartboyhw: feel free to update it :) [09:49] Riddell: I'm on mobile..... [09:49] How to? [09:50] smartboyhw: /msg ubottu I think [09:51] Riddell erm that will kill me typing in my small smartphone (GALAXY Pocket, old 2.3 version) [09:52] ubottu: no ninjas is apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy [09:52] think that did it [09:52] !ninjas [09:52] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [09:52] Riddell no [09:53] LOL [09:53] smartboyhw: it needs to be manually approved [09:55] Riddell: on it [09:55] XD [09:57] Riddell, ninjas ppa ? [09:57] done [09:57] !ninjas [09:57] ah its iso [09:57] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel [09:57] aww [09:58] lol [09:58] there is also 4.10.2 in ninjas PPA for the testing [09:59] ubottu: no, ninjas-#kubuntu-devel is Ninja Time! apachelogger, debfx, JontheEchidna, Quintasan, Riddell, ScottK, yofel, smartboyhw, murthy [09:59] I'll remember that Tm_T [09:59] Riddell, it is ready ? [09:59] Riddell: does that factoid be needed elsewhere than in this channel only? [09:59] Tm_T: nope [10:00] soee: dunno that's what the testing would be about :) [10:00] Riddell: thanks, I'll drop the global one [10:00] Riddell, i see pykde4 failed to build ? [10:00] http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html [10:01] soee: yeah, a mystery so far that one [10:11] whee Muon 2! http://jontheechidna.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/muon-suite-2-0-0-released/ [10:11] Yo [10:22] * smartboyhw hopes his application for Ubuntu RMB will get througj [10:23] RMB? [10:23] right mouse button? [10:23] you have a context menu to show the world? [10:23] LOL Regional Membership Board [10:23] aah [10:23] Riddell: You making post-April Fools Day joke!? [10:24] nope, I'd never seen that acronym before [10:24] be careful not to overreach yourself, very easy to get spread too thin in open source development [10:24] Yeah [10:24] Anyway it just one meeting per month [10:24] Not too much [10:25] I really hate April Fools Day this year [10:26] I'm sure you'll think of a way to get ogra back [10:26] reject his application to be a member of ubuntu in asia :) [10:26] Riddell nah [10:26] We solved the thing in yesterday's #ubuntu-release [10:27] Riddell:It is the first joke that hit me a lot more [10:27] which one was that? [10:28] Riddell: Change of project lead in Ubuntu Studio [10:28] I miss ScottL [10:28] Riddell: Isn't ogra an Ubuntu member? [10:28] smartboyhw: yes, but I trumped him by 2 minutes to be the first ubuntu member [10:29] although I'm restricted to only uploading packages beginning with a k [10:29] lol [10:36] I'm afraid I don't have much time the coming weeks to test the beta. My test week is coming up, I really need to study. Sorry, hope I can squeeze in a test here and there. [10:36] uh oh [10:38] * yofel is on a trip till weekend and can't test anything - crappy connection [10:38] Riddel wait a minute how come an Ubuntu membership application cost 2 min? (According to time diff between you and ogra_) [10:38] OH NO [10:38] I might not be able to either [10:39] lordievader: good luck testing [10:39] yofel: have fun tripping [10:39] I have a lot more to do tmr for Ubuntu Studio (testing + release) [10:39] smartboyhw: well it might have been 5 minutes I beat him by, it was many years ago [10:39] Naming me Release Manager just makes it worse lol [10:40] Riddell, 5 minutes is also very short [10:42] mine took 13 [10:42] (Accorrding to the IRC logs [10:45] smartboyhw_: it's anything between 2 minutes to 30 [10:46] smartboyhw_: and the process was bit different back then... (: [10:46] Tm_T never saw one having 2 min [10:47] smartboyhw_: did you see any approvals back in 200...5 6 or 7 ? (: [10:48] Tm_T trying to see logs of Riddell and ogra application [10:48] claydoh, SteveRiley, Darkwing, valorie: anyone fancy doing the beta 2 notes? [10:49] smartboyhw_: 2004 I think [10:49] Riddell: Weird according to Launchpad you are 14 days later then pgr [10:49] s/pgr/ogra_/ [10:49] smartboyhw_ meant: "Riddell: Weird according to Launchpad you are 14 days later then ogra_" [10:50] bah, I always said launchpad was buggy [10:50] ^ [10:59] Riddell BAH can't find the logs [11:00] lost in the mists of time :) [11:03] Riddell you remember getting membership through CC or TB? [11:04] did those even exist in 2004? [11:04] they were both finding their feet [11:04] yofel: They do [11:04] I think it was CC for membership then TB for universe then TB again for main [11:05] Ok [11:05] ah [11:08] Riddell you remember where your membership meeting was held? #ubuntu-meeting right? [11:10] smartboyhw_: probably, but it was a long time ago! [11:10] that channel might not have been logged then [11:11] Riddell: It is logges [11:11] But I can't find membership things im 2004 [11:17] Hmm the membership process seems weird at that time [11:17] You sign the CoC and send it to somebody [11:18] Riddell: It makes sense niw [11:18] it wasn't built into launchpad [11:19] Eh... [11:19] Anyways, quest stop [11:20] shame I was looking forward to old memories :) [11:21] lol [11:25] Riddell: How many people you know have special Kubuntu Members user Avatars in Ubuntu Forums? [11:26] Hey folks [11:28] Hello BluesKaj [11:28] hey smartboyhw_ [11:29] smartboyhw_: mm what's a special Kubuntu Members user Avatar? [11:36] which forums? [11:37] gosh, the low disk space warning just popped up [11:37] I'd forgotten enturely about that [11:37] best delete some things :) [11:38] rm -r 4.8 4.8.5 4.8.80 4.8.90 4.8done 4.9.0 4.9.1 4.9.2 4.9.3 4.9.80 4.9.90 4.9.95 4.9.97 4.9.98 that should free up some [11:39] heh [11:50] yofel, 4.10.2 for raring is ready ? [11:51] soee: needs testing [11:51] Riddell, i can try it here on my work machine as its runngin raring [11:54] Riddell, what pa is it ? i have only yofels here at work on my list :) [11:58] yuo its 4.10.2 there, just tell me if i should use them [11:59] Riddell: Ubuntu Forums at ubuntuforums.org [12:00] If you are a Ubuntu member you get "Ubuntu Member" with five Ubuntu logos [12:00] under your username [12:01] For Kubuntu Members you get "Kubuntu member" with a Kubuntu logo [12:01] Like me:) [12:01] Ubuntu Forums is indeed sponsored by Canonical BTW [12:03] like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1715278 [12:03] vbulletin ): [12:04] Yes [12:04] it needs its own registration, no likey [12:04] and I don't see openid option, no likey [12:05] same here btw http://www.kubuntuforums.net/content.php [12:07] Do Kubuntu members get special things like in the Ubuntu Forums? LOL [12:07] Riddell: ^ [12:07] kidding [12:07] I presume we don't use forums much [12:07] * Tm_T doesn't, never learned 'em [12:08] ^ [12:08] LOL === mck182 is now known as mck182|lunch [12:24] smartboyhw: special things? [12:25] Like what Tm_T postes [12:26] s/postes/posted/ [12:26] smartboyhw meant: "Like what Tm_T posted" [12:27] Riddell: ^ [12:28] http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=1715278 [12:35] svgpart (4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu4:4.10.2~ubuntu12.10~ppa1~ppa1) quantal; urgency=low [12:35] hmm I might not have quite understood this backport script [12:35] is that the up-to-date version from bzr? [12:36] as I remember seeing that [12:36] yep, I ran it with ./kubuntu-batch-backport -v 4.10.2 -f raring -t quantal -V 4:4.10.2~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 [12:36] s/4:4.10.2~ubuntu12.10~ppa1/12.10/ [12:36] yofel: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed" [12:36] yofel, can i use your ninja to update to 4.10.2 / [12:36] yeah [12:36] soee: yes, please do, testing needed [12:36] soee: yes [12:37] !testers Please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds [12:37] smartboyhw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [12:37] ............ [12:38] :p [12:38] smartboyhw: needs a pipe I think [12:38] !testers | Please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds [12:38] Please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in the Ninjas PPA and the Beta 2 builds: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [12:38] Yes!!!!!!! [12:40] "Pipe this into that" [12:40] lol [12:40] when saying that around normal people they'll think you're a plumber [12:41] lol [12:43] normal people are weird [12:50] Riddell, no errors when upgrading [12:50] will reboot now [12:54] the ninjas ppas are disorganized jumbled , and poorly linked .. a proper url containing the build is in order here. [12:54] Riddell, upgrade 4.10.1 => 4.10.2 on Raring - finished without problems [12:55] soee: awooga [12:55] soee: able to do any iso testing? [12:55] BluesKaj: there is only one ninja PPA, and that is private. So you need to be either a ninja, or need to ask one to get access to it. And that's intentional [12:56] Riddell, not now - im at work but i can test later after 20:00 cet [12:59] yofel: fine , but if you want testers then they should have access to a site containing said app. [13:00] BluesKaj: app? it's a PPA and we give out details to anyone willing to test [13:01] ^ [13:01] anyway , if you guys can come up with a link , I'll gladly give KDE SC 4.10.2 a try [13:02] app ok , I meant the conting ppa [13:02] BluesKaj: /msg'ed [13:03] containing rather [13:04] testing 4.10.2 [13:06] whatever [13:06] I might as well as reinstall to raring [13:07] What happened? [13:08] yofel: Why do we need a Kubuntu backport script? Why not just use backportpackage? [13:09] ScottK: does backportpackage support package-specific sed commands that should be run during the backport? [13:09] Like what? What are you trying to change? [13:09] ok ,installing now [13:10] ScottK: various things like boost version in control files, kde-runtime needs a patch and a few runtime deps removed for precise and so on [13:10] you need to do that *every* time [13:10] I see. [13:10] No, it doesn't, but it might make sense to see about merging that into the regular backportpackage rather than maintain something entirely our own. [13:11] I can imagine use cases for such things outside Kubuntu. [13:12] true, would require porting the stuff to backportpackage then. it's python while kubuntu-batch-backport is bash [13:12] Riddell: I saw that Kubuntu guys will meet with CC tmr right? [13:13] smartboyhw: it's in my calendar, not heard anything from them, do you know who would be good to contact? [13:13] ScottK, yofel: doesn't kbackport work on bzr? [13:14] what's kbackport? [13:14] if so we'd still want a harness anyway [13:14] our backport script thing [13:14] whatever it is called [13:14] no [13:14] brrr [13:14] isn't that crappy to use then? [13:15] Riddell: Go to #ubuntu-community-team and find czajowski or lyz (aka pleia2) or even dholbach [13:15] apachelogger: how is using pull-ppa-source + debuild crappier to use than bzr branch and bzr builddeb? [13:15] perhaps I don't get what the script does [13:16] essentially pull-ppa-source, dch, run a script, debuild -S -us -uc [13:16] hm [13:16] sounds slow what with pull-ppa-source [13:16] that in a loop for all packages in the backport list [13:17] it is a bit when launchpad is starved on bandwidth :/ [13:17] sure you *could* pull the original tars from somewhere else, but that's more special-handling than I wanted to do [13:17] hence why I thought it woudl use bzr [13:17] but oh well [13:18] this is the portable version of a script I wrote on a whim. It's not like changing it to use bzr would be a lot of work [13:20] -- Installing: /build/buildd/ktp-common-internals-0.6.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libktpwidgetsprivate.so.0.6.0 [13:20] -- Installing: /build/buildd/ktp-common-internals-0.6.0/debian/tmp/usr/lib/libktpwidgetsprivate.so.5 [13:20] I don't even .... [13:22] what's the word on the kde framework 5 , saw some artcles about it yesterday and how it's supposedly paving the way for wayland to replace X in the not too distant future ...is this just speculation or is there some truth to it? [13:22] shadeslayer: you can do all sorts of weird things with library versions [13:26] hello everyone [13:27] Hey murthy:) [13:27] Got some time to do some testing? [13:27] ok ,reboot ..hope to be back soon :) [13:27] smartboyhw: nope, busy with nootka [13:27] BluesKaj: hi [13:32] Riddell: pm? [13:34] murthy: can do [13:34] KDE SC 4.10.2 seems ok so far , but the pager icons bug is still apparent , a small issue but annoying [13:35] pager icons bug? [13:35] pager?! Who uses that? [13:36] in the pager settings there;s a show icons option in the virtual desktops in the panel , they aren't showing up [13:36] I do . aamof I prefer them [13:37] ....... [13:38] * smartboyhw would want a old Macintosh rather than a pager [13:39] uhm smartboyhw , not a pager device , the virtualk desktop pager in the panel [13:40] Kidding;P [13:40] yeah sure :) [14:08] shadeslayer: What happened to http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/? [14:13] well [14:13] I could keep using ec2 instances [14:14] yofel: does lxc work yet? [14:14] with some manual adjustment of the pre-upgrade OS, it does. [14:15] I was a bit short on time lately, so I haven't worked out a scripted setup of that yet [14:20] welll [14:21] it werks(TM) [14:21] lol [14:22] murthy: nootka compiling away now in screen session [14:23] Riddell: ya, i have been watching all the way [14:23] \o/ [14:23] murthy: all yours :) [14:23] What is nootka anyways? [14:23] can you give me the log of what you did now, so that i will so the next time [14:23] Riddell: ^ [14:23] Quintasan: Music app [14:24] smartboyhw: I could guess that since it sounds like one, what does it actually do [14:24] murthy: you can get one through running "history" I guss [14:24] ok. so next time i have to just ssh and screen -x ? [14:26] murthy: assuming screen is still running yes [14:26] That Nepomuk Cleaner should really inside the KCM [14:26] Riddell: ok [14:26] same for the Nepomuk Database backuping application === mck182|lunch is now known as mck182 [15:09] why the hell icedtea-7-plugin has deps on gnome [15:09] this is useless [15:13] it doesn't, it has deps on glib/gtk+ [15:13] ostaną zainstalowane następujące dodatkowe pakiety: [15:13] desktop-file-utils gconf-service gconf-service-backend gconf2 gconf2-common gvfs gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs icedtea-netx icedtea-netx-common libatk-wrapper-java [15:13] libatk-wrapper-java-jni libbonobo2-0 libbonobo2-common libgconf-2-4 libgconf2-4 libgnome2-0 libgnome2-bin libgnome2-common libgnomevfs2-0 libgnomevfs2-common libidl-common libidl0 [15:13] liborbit2 libsecret-1-0 libsecret-common libudisks2-0 openjdk-7-jre policykit-1-gnome ttf-dejavu-extra udisks2 [15:13] though someone obviously thought it would be funny if openjdk-7-jre recommended libgnome2-0 [15:13] that's otally not gnome [15:14] --no-install-recommends to the rescue [15:14] woah [15:14] seriously [15:14] this shouldn't be there [15:17] it was a hard dependency in oneiric it seems, became a recommend in precise [15:25] smartboyhw: are you there? [15:26] murthy: yep [15:26] why? [15:26] smartboyhw: nootka error, [15:26] smartboyhw: dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/nootka/usr/bin/nootka contains an unresolvable reference to symbol __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr1@GCC_3.5: [15:26] !? [15:27] smartboyhw: build succeeded for arm with 1 file, 1 line changed [15:27] Riddell: ^ [15:27] murthy: good [15:27] smartboyhw: you did the control file for nootka right? [15:27] murthy: Wait a minute you are using the version from my main ppa right? [15:28] That's the old version [15:28] murthy: you fixed the patch? [15:28] smartboyhw: dont know, we have to ask Riddell [15:28] Riddell: ya, build succeeded [15:28] Riddell: except for the signing part [15:28] Riddell: gpg key error [15:29] murthy: great [15:29] Riddell: how do i scroll up? [15:29] murthy: Ah I remember: You need to delete qtmultimedia-dev and remove debian/docs [15:29] Nice job on getting ARM done [15:29] smartboyhw: i had removed debian docs, have to remove qtmultimedia-dev [15:29] Good:) [15:29] smartboyhw: credit goes to Riddell [15:30] murthy: sure he is:) [15:30] murthy: Strange why is gpg key having an error? [15:31] smartboyhw: i guess there is no key [15:31] murthy: What do you mean? [15:31] smartboyhw: http://paste.kde.org/715088/ [15:32] You don't create a GPG key for packaging? [15:32] Damn use your name instead of mine LOL [15:33] it's a chroot on an insecure machine, no gpg key on there [15:35] Riddell: wait [15:35] Riddell: i did dpkg-source --commit already [15:35] screen just got terminated [15:35] murthy: You clearly didn't change debian/changelog [15:35] smartboyhw: no [15:35] smartboyhw: I was just testing a change [15:35] smartboyhw: there wont be any changes to the changelog [15:35] oops [15:35] i am not sure [15:36] Riddell: whats happeniing? [15:39] murthy: I'm grabbing your patch [15:39] probably I killed the screen session in the process [15:39] Riddell: shall i put it in my bzr branch? [15:40] Riddell: will you be updating what smartboyhw said in debian/ ? [15:42] murthy: yes can do [15:42] i'll add a changelog [15:43] murthy: uploaded! [15:44] YES [15:44] Riddell: cool [15:44] that reminds me I need to copy my gpg keys to mah laptop [15:44] Riddell: where can i see the build log? [15:44] murthy: it'll appear on launchpad when it's built [15:45] ok [15:45] Yeah [15:46] yofel: can you make a magic status for 4.10.2 in quantal and precise? [15:46] right, time to get on with some ISO testing [15:46] go go iso testers! [15:49] lol [15:50] how long before KDE SC 4.10.2 is in the backports so i can remove the ninja ppa ?, the gpg error is annoying [15:52] Riddell: should be up, no? [15:52] funny how little things annoy me nowadays :) [15:53] Riddell: Would it be good to add nootka into the repos after it has been built? [15:54] BluesKaj: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0945A8E2 [15:54] should resolve the key warning on ninjas [15:56] thanks yofel :) [15:56] Isn't [15:57] BluesKaj a ninja? [15:57] (testing purposes) [15:57] gpg warnings have nothing to do with that ^^ [15:57] lol [15:58] yes ninja ppa , smartboyhw_ [15:59] Riddell: this is the changelog for nootka? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/nootka/+changelog [16:00] Back === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhe === smartboyhe is now known as smartboyhw [16:01] smartboyhw: can you help me? [16:01] murthy: With what? [16:01] smartboyhw: i need to see the patch https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/nootka [16:04] murthy: BTW all builds has failed for new -0ubuntu3 [16:04] murthy: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/nootka/raring-proposed/files/head:/debian/patches/ [16:05] checking [16:05] yofel: -0ubuntu2 or -0ubuntu3? [16:05] ah, that's ubuntu2 [16:05] stupid bzr importers [16:06] wrong patch i guess [16:06] Riddell: are you there? [16:07] yofel: this is the new patch? [16:07] yofel: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/raring/nootka/raring-proposed/view/head:/debian/patches/qmaxqminarm.patch [16:08] smartboyhw: thats the new patch? [16:09] murthy: -0ubuntu2 old patch [16:10] yofel: smartboyhw this is the patch that has to be used http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka/files/head:/debian/patches/ [16:10] murthy: Make sure your patch doesn't break [16:10] is this one used? [16:10] amd64 & i386 build [16:11] murthy: It is used in -0ubuntu3, but it hasn't been imported to that bzr branch [16:11] smartboyhw: please give me the link to the new patch [16:11] murthy: NO LINK [16:11] murthy: Be patient [16:12] And wait for the UDD importer to import [16:12] smartboyhw: did this get uploaded? https://code.launchpad.net/~murthy/+junk/nootka [16:15] murthy: Create a new directory and dget -x https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/nootka_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu3.dsc and look into the directory produced. It should have your patch [16:15] Riddell: Crap, I forgot to upload plasma-widget-redshift, think we still can do anything about this or I upload to PPA and then upload to S when it's open? [16:16] smartboyhw: from my observation Riddell has used the previous patch [16:16] Quintasan, Riddell: Can FFe still be filed? [16:16] murthy: Kill Riddell then [16:16] LOL [16:17] * BluesKaj calls security [16:18] murthy: According to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/136046028/nootka_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu2_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu3.diff.gz the diff shows you are correct [16:18]