| pitti | Bonjour tout le monde ! | 04:22 |
|---|---|---|
| jibel | good morning | 06:47 |
| didrocks | salut jibel, ça va? | 06:55 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 06:55 |
| didrocks | guten morgen pitti! | 06:56 |
| didrocks | pitti: not sure if Arte is broadcasting the same program at the same hour. Yesterday, there were an interesting show on Google books | 06:56 |
| jibel | Bonjour didrocks ! Ça va bien et toi ? | 06:56 |
| didrocks | jibel: ça va :) | 06:57 |
| pitti | didrocks: nous n'avons pas un TV :) | 06:57 |
| didrocks | pitti: you can watch Arte online :) | 06:57 |
| pitti | oui | 06:57 |
| pitti | didrocks: we just returned from Dresden yesterday, though | 06:58 |
| didrocks | oh? how was it? did you enjoy those days off? | 06:58 |
| pitti | didrocks: indeed I did, thanks! some days to meet family and friends again | 06:58 |
| didrocks | great :-) | 06:59 |
| pitti | quelques jours pour recontrer nous amis et famille | 06:59 |
| pitti | s/nous/nos/ | 06:59 |
| didrocks | il a fait beau? vous avez bien pu en profiter? | 06:59 |
| pitti | didrocks: oui, mais il était très froid, et il a beaucoup neigé | 07:00 |
| mlankhorst | bonjour! | 07:01 |
| pitti | ça va mlankhorst | 07:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: argh :( ici, c'est un temps de printemps | 07:02 |
| didrocks | hey mlankhorst | 07:02 |
| pitti | didrocks: pas encore là | 07:03 |
| mlankhorst | ça va? | 07:04 |
| didrocks | ça va bien, et toi? :) | 07:04 |
| mlankhorst | ca va:/ | 07:05 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:45 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, comment ça va ? | 07:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ca va bien, et toi ? ton w.e de paques était bon ? | 07:46 |
| pitti | seb128: oui, il était bien, mais il faisait très froid | 07:47 |
| seb128 | j'ai vu ta photo de bonhomme de neige sur g+ | 07:47 |
| seb128 | ici aussi il fait encore froid :-( | 07:47 |
| pitti | :) | 07:47 |
| pitti | seb128: "photo" est feminine ? | 07:48 |
| seb128 | oui | 07:48 |
| jibel | pitti, "photo" est féminin ;) | 07:51 |
| seb128 | salut jibel, ca va ? | 07:52 |
| pitti | car "féminin" est masculin :) | 07:52 |
| jibel | Salut seb128 , ça va bien et et toi ? | 07:52 |
| seb128 | nickel ;-) | 07:52 |
| didrocks | (grand soleil à Lyon, c'est le printemps, venez, venez! ;)) | 08:06 |
| xclaesse | seb128, desrt: FYI it is that commit that break tp-glib unit tests: https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=f91ef4ef15d220f6899c97aaf5b1c0a8f68cfe9a | 08:35 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, hey, thanks | 08:35 |
| xclaesse | it seems intentional, so I guess it is tp-glib that should be updated accordinately, but I'm not an unicode guru | 08:36 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, right, seems similar to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=694669#c3 | 08:36 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 694669 in general "consider unicode corrigendum #9" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 08:36 |
| xclaesse | seb128, aahhh | 08:37 |
| xclaesse | seb128, our test is a copy/paste of glib's | 08:37 |
| xclaesse | I'll just copy they patch then | 08:38 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, thanks | 08:39 |
| seb128 | I'm surprised nobody noticed/did something until now | 08:39 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 09:42 |
| czajkowski | I've been doing a raring update for the last 20 mins and it seems to have stopped mid way and wont budge, anyone seen/heard of this in the last few hours? | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | czajkowski, hanging at unpacking or configuring the kernel ? | 09:53 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: says preconfiguring packages.... | 09:59 |
| ogra_ | hmm, then its something different | 10:00 |
| czajkowski | bugger | 10:00 |
| ogra_ | checked the terminal log ? | 10:00 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: thats what I see in the terminal log | 10:00 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: http://ubuntuone.com/45FaItkRRfnFzcTKq8RTa1 | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | ha, and i see myself in the background ! | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | :) | 10:02 |
| ogra_ | probably the apt log has something in /var/log .... | 10:02 |
| czajkowski | was the safest irc channel to copy and show :) | 10:02 |
| czajkowski | paranodi if I shut down now I wont have a resuming laptop | 10:03 |
| davmor2 | seb128: Good news with cjwatsons apt in place update-manager is now working again :) | 10:03 |
| xclaesse | seb128, tp-glib 0.20.2 released with unit test passing ;) | 10:47 |
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| seb128 | xclaesse, thanks | 10:49 |
| czajkowski | ogra_: any ideas how I get past http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5673254/ | 10:56 |
| ogra_ | kill the already running apt | 10:57 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, that seems like the aptdaemon bug cjwatson fixed yesterday | 10:57 |
| czajkowski | I'm sure I already killed it stabbed it | 10:58 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, kill any running dpkg process | 10:58 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, ps ax | grep dpkg | 10:58 |
| czajkowski | oh more to kill cheers | 10:58 |
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| seb128 | czajkowski, dpkg -l | grep aptdaemon? | 10:59 |
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| seb128 | czajkowski, just checking what version you have | 10:59 |
| popey | 1.0.0ubuntu9 here | 10:59 |
| popey | and I killed stuff | 10:59 |
| seb128 | that's the fixed version | 10:59 |
| seb128 | when did it get installed? | 10:59 |
| seb128 | and did you reboot your system since that time? | 11:00 |
| czajkowski | seb128: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5673263/ | 11:00 |
| popey | 5 mins ago | 11:00 |
| popey | not rebooted since | 11:00 |
| popey | i.e. after I killed and then dpkg --configure -a'ed | 11:00 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:00 |
| seb128 | so I guess you didn't have the fixed version running | 11:01 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, dpkg -l | grep aptdaemon | 11:01 |
| popey | i didnt have the fixed version installed | 11:01 |
| seb128 | ok, good | 11:01 |
| seb128 | popey, thanks | 11:01 |
| seb128 | czajkowski, in any case kill those dpkg processes, install the new aptdaemon and then you can enjoy using update-manager again | 11:01 |
| czajkowski | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673266/ | 11:01 |
| czajkowski | seb128: cheers | 11:01 |
| seb128 | k, you just got the updated version, so yeah, same bug | 11:02 |
| seb128 | thanks for confirming ;-) | 11:02 |
| davmor2 | seb128, popey, czajkowski: I have the fixed version install from yesterday but had to do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade to install it, My machine has been rebooted since then and todays updates have gone in no issues. | 11:03 |
| seb128 | good | 11:03 |
| seb128 | well, good for the "no issues" | 11:03 |
| AlanBell | hi, I have a missing background and icons in raring, fully updated with the ubuntu-desktop^ task installed | 11:06 |
| AlanBell | right click gives me a menu, I can choose background but all I get is this white (actually light grey) background | 11:06 |
| seb128 | AlanBell, gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons ? | 11:07 |
| AlanBell | ah actually the icons are there, they were offscreen or something, just arranged by name and they are all there | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:07 |
| seb128 | ignore that question then ;-) | 11:07 |
| AlanBell | but on a grey background | 11:07 |
| AlanBell | it does this in a guest session too | 11:08 |
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| seb128 | weird | 11:13 |
| seb128 | dpkg -l | grep nautilus? | 11:13 |
| seb128 | is that the archive version or a ppa one? | 11:13 |
| seb128 | does it work if you pick another wallpaper? | 11:13 |
| AlanBell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673288/ | 11:14 |
| AlanBell | no, doesn't work with other wallpapers or plain colours, always the same grey | 11:15 |
| AlanBell | if I kill the nautilus -n that is running then the desktop goes black | 11:21 |
| AlanBell | run nautilus again and it goes grey | 11:21 |
| popey | looks like you're running nautilus from the gnome team ppa | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | oh | 11:24 |
| popey | version string matches https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | I probably am | 11:24 |
| AlanBell | thought that was just gnome shell stuff | 11:24 |
| seb128 | AlanBell, that's your issue then, broken ppa version ;-) | 11:38 |
| AlanBell | so it seems | 11:50 |
| ricotz | AlanBell, you can re-enable the background plugin of gnome-settings-daemon | 11:53 |
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| AlanBell | ricotz: is that in gconf-editor somewhere? | 12:10 |
| AlanBell | or dconf-editor? | 12:10 |
| ricotz | yes, in dconf -- org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background | 12:15 |
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| AlanBell | ok, I will log out and back in later and see if that worked | 13:01 |
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| popey | seb128: got another machine with the aptdaemon issue, you dont want/need any info from it do you? | 15:15 |
| popey | Installed: 1.0-0ubuntu8 | 15:15 |
| popey | Candidate: 1.0-0ubuntu9 | 15:15 |
| tkamppeter | larsu, hi | 16:03 |
| seb128 | popey, thanks, I just wanted to confirm that you were not seing the issue still on a machine with 0ubuntu9 installed (and in use) | 16:18 |
| popey | seb128: ok, will update then | 16:18 |
| desrt | pitti: this dia crasher.... weren't you going to upload a patched package? | 16:23 |
| desrt | i see reports that there is still the crash in raring | 16:23 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey, do you have an agenda for the fdo summit? can I add something to discuss on your list? ;-) | 16:46 |
| desrt | seb128: we do | 16:54 |
| desrt | what do you want discussed? | 16:54 |
| seb128 | desrt, accountsservices | 16:56 |
| seb128 | 1- if other desktops plan to use it | 16:56 |
| desrt | interesting | 16:56 |
| seb128 | 2- if the GNOME guys are wanting to make it a real freedesktop project | 16:56 |
| seb128 | it's on fdo but they are letting patches that don't benefit gnome-shell sit there or refuse to add features they don't need | 16:56 |
| desrt | ya.... that's a bit suspicious | 16:57 |
| desrt | particularly if other people are coming with patches | 16:57 |
| seb128 | like we have patches to get the user keyboard locale and backport stored along the other infos there, mterry upstreamed them | 16:57 |
| seb128 | ups | 16:57 |
| seb128 | backport->background | 16:57 |
| seb128 | (autofingers) | 16:57 |
| desrt | who is the main upstream contact for that these days? ray? | 16:57 |
| seb128 | yes | 16:57 |
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| desrt | it's a bit of a meaningless conversation if he's not there :p | 16:57 |
| seb128 | well, it would be good to see if other desktops are wanting to use it | 16:58 |
| seb128 | that's an useful piece of infra | 16:58 |
| mterry | seb128, I threw them upstream, but I don't recall much interest | 16:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, right, which is sort of my point ... if we can't get patches upstream and nobody out of GNOME is using it, it's becoming a GNOME tech | 16:58 |
| seb128 | mterry, I'm trying to evaluate if we should keep it in our stack | 16:59 |
| seb128 | it would be good, but not if it ends up being a "you need to maintain a fork because upstream doesn't want to include features they don't need" | 16:59 |
| * didrocks waves good evening | 17:00 | |
| seb128 | xclaesse, do you think you would have any time to review https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=697197 from Trevinho this week? ;-) he would like us to distro patch that to empathy for raring to fix focus issues in unity | 17:32 |
| ubot2` | Gnome bug 697197 in General "Empathy ignores the platform-data when activated" [Major,Assigned] | 17:32 |
| seb128 | xclaesse, I would prefer an upstream review before distro patching it ;-) | 17:32 |
| seb128 | mterry, did you upstream your accountsservices patches for 0012-add-keyboard-layout-support.patch | 17:38 |
| seb128 | ? | 17:38 |
| mterry | seb128, I don't recall offhand | 17:39 |
| mterry | seb128, let me see if I can find the bug in their bugzilla | 17:39 |
| seb128 | mterry, I found the one about the background, you didn't add the patch but they never replied either about whether they would be wanting to do that | 17:40 |
| mterry | seb128, looks like no. I think I was waiting for their preferred approach for the background patch | 17:41 |
| seb128 | mterry, ok, can you add it? | 17:43 |
| mterry | seb128, sure. Do I have any other similar patches to accountsservice? | 17:44 |
| mterry | (while you're there) | 17:44 |
| mterry | seb128, ah, has-message | 17:45 |
| mterry | seb128, but that's maybe not something upstream cares about | 17:45 |
| seb128 | mterry, layouts | 17:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, but desrt is talking to them about adding a generic key/value storage | 17:46 |
| mterry | seb128, that's 0012-add-keyboard-layout-support.patch right? | 17:46 |
| seb128 | mterry, yes | 17:46 |
| desrt | i already designed it | 17:47 |
| desrt | it's going to be awesome | 17:47 |
| mterry | desrt, oh really? that would be useful, yeah | 17:47 |
| desrt | the problem with key/value is that people can store too much junk there | 17:47 |
| desrt | like, unprivileged apps can put anything | 17:47 |
| mterry | desrt, you mean the problem is that people would use it? :) | 17:47 |
| desrt | so we probably want schemas to be installed by the apps that would consume the data | 17:47 |
| mterry | I know what you mean though | 17:47 |
| desrt | ie: lightdm wants to read background, so it would put a file for background there | 17:47 |
| desrt | and we reject any attempts to write data that doesn't have a registered consumer | 17:48 |
| desrt | i figure that the appropriate response to dealing with writes to invalid keys is to do a kernel panic | 17:48 |
| desrt | since it's a system-level service and all | 17:48 |
| mterry | desrt, this sounds like dconf with a special database path | 17:48 |
| desrt | mterry: well... it's per-user, but outside of the user's homedir | 17:48 |
| desrt | so it's neither system-level dconf nor user-level dconf | 17:49 |
| mterry | desrt, yeah we can't just drop in dconf and fix it, but it sounds pretty similar | 17:49 |
| desrt | well... it's a way to store preferences, in the end | 17:49 |
| desrt | so ya | 17:50 |
| mterry | but also the abililty for apps to register schemas etc | 17:50 |
| desrt | ya | 17:50 |
| desrt | you have me thinking now..... | 17:50 |
| mterry | desrt, +1 on kernel panic btw | 17:51 |
| desrt | glad you agree | 17:52 |
| desrt | i'm sure there will be haters | 17:52 |
| desrt | but i know they're wrong | 17:52 |
| mterry | developer might not notice a simple crash dialog | 17:52 |
| mterry | desrt, but also, if there's a way we could just reuse dconf for the accountsservice, that would be swell | 17:52 |
| desrt | mterry: for the per-user data, you mean? | 17:53 |
| mterry | desrt, yeah | 17:53 |
| mterry | desrt, how advanced are these discussions with upstream? Like, should I still bother trying to upstream these patches we have for one-off features? | 17:53 |
| desrt | mterry: upstream will take the patch if i write it | 17:53 |
| desrt | i'd like to keep it simple for now, though | 17:53 |
| desrt | like, add a dbus interface and expose a client library api | 17:54 |
| desrt | nothing more | 17:54 |
| mterry | sure | 17:54 |
| desrt | gonna go walk larsu to security and grab some lunch now | 17:54 |
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| Trevinho | pitti: hey, I've noticed one thing in my laptop... I'have that Upower's HhibernateAllowed() result != logind's CanHibernate()... And this lead to the fact that unity shutdown dialog (when pressing the power button) shows the hibernate option, but the indicator-session doesn't... | 17:59 |
| Trevinho | pitti: so, I think we should fix that as well, isn't it? | 18:00 |
| Trevinho | (to support logind) | 18:00 |
| mterry | seb128, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63086 | 18:34 |
| ubot2` | Freedesktop bug 63086 in general "Add KeyboardLayouts property" [Enhancement,New] | 18:34 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 18:46 |
| jbicha | tkamppeter: did you see bug 1157814? fixing it would beat having to use a usb stick to transfer files to another computer to use the printer | 19:00 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1157814 in cups-filters (Ubuntu) "Xerox Workcentre doesn't print any more in Ubuntu 12.10 and newer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157814 | 19:00 |
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| bdrung_ | Sweetshark: synced liblangtag 0.4.0-6. thanks for your work on it. | 22:52 |
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