| roasted | What would make Nautilus open with hidden files visible by default? | 00:00 |
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| roasted | anybody offhand know what to run in terminal to bring up the printers dialog window? | 03:41 |
| roasted | mine is crashing immediately when I select a printer to add. I want to run it in term to see if there's an obvious error. | 03:41 |
| timonti | lpr? | 03:42 |
| timonti | cat filename > /dev/lp | 03:42 |
| roasted | I don't know what that is | 03:42 |
| timonti | check out the lp / lpr command for printing. | 03:43 |
| roasted | lp and lpr launch nothing in terminal | 03:44 |
| roasted | I'm not familiar with them at all :( | 03:44 |
| darkxst | roasted, you can get a printer panel with 'system-config-printer' | 03:47 |
| darkxst | but its not the same panel that you would get in g-c-c | 03:47 |
| roasted | installing now | 03:48 |
| roasted | it's frustrating because the printer box crashes any time I try to add a printer | 03:48 |
| roasted | do you have printers installed? | 03:48 |
| darkxst | yes, but I can't even add printers under g-c-c for some reason | 03:49 |
| roasted | what are you referencing when you say gcc | 03:49 |
| darkxst | gnome-control-center (system settings) | 03:49 |
| roasted | so if you go into system settings and click printer, then add a printer, does yours crash too? | 03:51 |
| roasted | (also, system-config-printer let me add the printer successfully without issue) | 03:51 |
| darkxst | 'add' and 'unlock' are greyed out currently ;( | 03:51 |
| roasted | what's funny is... now that I added a printer via system-config-printer, I can add more in gcc - printers | 03:53 |
| roasted | I deleted the printer and re-added it in gcc | 03:53 |
| roasted | ah, but remove --purge system-config-printer-gnome and it crahses all over again in gcc | 03:55 |
| roasted | sigh | 03:55 |
| darkxst | maybe it needs that ;) | 03:55 |
| roasted | yep, reinstalled it but di dn't open it and added a printer in gcc without issue | 03:55 |
| darkxst | ok, can you file a bug | 03:58 |
| darkxst | it probably should be added to ubuntu-gnome-desktop | 03:59 |
| roasted | yeah I'm trying to find out where to post it now | 03:59 |
| roasted | alwyas so confusing imo | 03:59 |
| darkxst | 'ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center' | 04:00 |
| roasted | thanks | 04:14 |
| roasted | reported - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1163674 | 04:14 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1163674 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Adding a printer crashes Gnome Control Center (System Settings)" [Undecided,New] | 04:14 |
| sary | Salutations! | 04:45 |
| sary | !bug #1163651 | 04:47 |
| ubot5` | bug 1163651 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome shell crashed with "apport" complaining about lack of memory to automatically analyse the problem " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163651 | 04:47 |
| sary | jbicha: i hope you don't mind me subscribing you the this bug! | 04:49 |
| sary | this issue got me confused. | 04:52 |
| sary | I'm also thinking about uprading to 3.8 for testing , unless more debugging or a backtrace is needed for 3.6 . | 04:54 |
| darkxst | sary, wouldn't worry about that if its a one-off | 08:52 |
| darkxst | could have been anything that blew out memory usage | 08:52 |
| darkxst | ricotz, hi | 09:58 |
| darkxst | ok to copy these into staging? https://launchpad.net/~darkxst/+archive/js17 | 09:59 |
| darkxst | g-s just has the periodic GC patch | 09:59 |
| darkxst | and gnome-sushi is just a rebuild against gjs+js17 | 10:00 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi, yeah, do that | 10:06 |
| ricotz | make sure the gnome-sushi version is higher than the gnome3 ppa one | 10:06 |
| ricotz | and fix the gnome-shell changelog | 10:07 |
| darkxst | oh, what happened to the newline, I wonder! | 10:07 |
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| darkxst | ricotz, also there are a whole bunch of bugs that appear when systemd is installed, but none of the gnome stuff is built against it (g-s just has runtime detection) | 10:39 |
| darkxst | maybe we should explicitly break that, if we are not going to use it | 10:39 |
| darkxst | for example lock screen will break if gdm and accountsservice aren't built with systemd | 10:41 |
| darkxst | (logind) | 10:41 |
| darkxst | gnome-control-center can't 'unlock' anything | 10:42 |
| darkxst | nautilus can't mount gvfs drives | 10:43 |
| darkxst | I guess the list goes on and on, and this is all in the archives now (just not installed by default) | 10:46 |
| ricotz | darkxst, the systemd package was very in flux and settled now, so it would be fine to look into using it | 10:47 |
| ricotz | darkxst, but some problem might be caused due not syncing with ubuntu again | 10:47 |
| ricotz | e.g. gdm doesnt include the latest raring changes | 10:48 |
| ricotz | unlocking things in g-c-c seems to work here | 10:48 |
| ricotz | so are gvfs mount in nautilus | 10:49 |
| darkxst | ricotz, do you have libpam-systemd installed? | 10:49 |
| ricotz | darkxst, no | 10:49 |
| darkxst | try install that, and see all the bugs | 10:50 |
| darkxst | all of which go away once I install my logind packages from my ppa | 10:50 |
| ricotz | ok | 10:51 |
| darkxst | I think it comes down to a combination of run-time detection and packages build explicitly without systemd/logind | 10:52 |
| ricotz | probably | 10:54 |
| darkxst | and actually logind works really well from my testing, provided dbus/polkit (from pitti ppa) and the few things in my ppa, are build against it | 10:59 |
| roasted | hello friends | 17:39 |
| roasted | anybody having their entire GUI crash when they open Nautilus for a 2nd time on 13.04 with Gnome3 PPA? 3.8.0.1 | 17:39 |
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| camelinahat | I see the downloads section on the beta2 builds, but there's no download to be had? Would the download be the same as the daily-build from the April 2nd? | 18:10 |
| roasted | Duplicated the crash on a Macbook Pro with both OSS Nouvea driver + Proprietary Nvidia driver, along with a separate ultrabook with Intel GPU. Filing bug now. | 18:12 |
| roasted | new finding - it only happens if Nautilus is the only active window. hmm. | 18:22 |
| roasted | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1164086 | 18:29 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1164086 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell non-recoverable crash when opening Nautilus more than once." [Undecided,New] | 18:29 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: I just asked in #ubuntu-release so it's being worked on | 18:56 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Awesome thanks. I know in my virtual machine when I installed the daily build from yesterday, then installed the gnome3 ppa, gdm failed to completely load (it would show the background but not progress any further). I wanted to try the beta2 build and see what kind of details I can get before saying too much. But it was after a clean install. | 18:59 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: did you use dist-upgrade? I've heard of several people that didn't do that who had problems | 19:01 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Nope. Downloaded the daily image. Erased entire disk during install. once installed did sudo apt-get update/update. Then added the gnome3 ppa (not staging). Another update/upgrade and gdm doesn't complete loading after reboots | 19:02 |
| jbicha | camelinahat: ok, you need to use sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after adding the GNOME3 PPA | 19:04 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Hmm okay I'll give that a try too. Thanks. | 19:05 |
| camelinahat | jbicha: Thanks that seems to have corrected it. | 19:13 |
| roasted | if I put the gnome3 ppa on a 12.10 box would I get past gnome 3.6? | 19:23 |
| camelinahat | roasted: Nope. See: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3?field.series_filter=quantal (You'll just get more complete 3.6) | 19:24 |
| roasted | thanks. I'll just have to be patient. I'm loving 3.7+ but everyday in 13.04 in hitting a new bug. :P | 19:38 |
| sary | roasted: :) you got that right ... | 20:03 |
| sary | !bug #1163651 | 20:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1163651 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome shell crashed with "apport" complaining about lack of memory to automatically analyse the problem " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163651 | 20:04 |
| sary | roasted: gnome 3.8 for Raring , #see : https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/msg00273.html , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2121738 | 20:06 |
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| roasted | those additional ppas are a little scary considering I'm working with my work laptop.... :P | 20:35 |
| sary | roasted: in your case, sure thing .. i just added those ppa's on this testing machine, doing apt-get update , upgrade , dist-upgrade .. lets see how ot goes. | 21:26 |
| sary | Going,goin .. not yet! | 21:27 |
| roasted | sary: how's it working? | 21:39 |
| sary | roasted: the upgrade process is still going .. | 21:47 |
| roasted | ah | 21:48 |
| roasted | sary: do you have a batter indicator? | 21:48 |
| roasted | battery, rather. | 21:54 |
| sary | unpacking and installing .. | 21:59 |
| roasted | I haven't had a battery icon on any system since 3.6. I almost feel ike it's an add-on package that I'm forgetting or something. | 22:00 |
| sary | Going,going ... | 22:34 |
| sary | Gone! | 22:35 |
| roasted | you're fully updated? | 22:35 |
| roasted | 3.8 on 12.10? | 22:35 |
| sary | Back. | 22:50 |
| sary | Kaboom! wlah! | 22:50 |
| roasted | how's it working? | 22:50 |
| sary | roasted: i went smoth and successfully! ;) | 22:52 |
| roasted | you're on 12.10 with 3.8? | 22:52 |
| sary | i/is/it | 22:52 |
| sary | That's right. | 22:52 |
| roasted | do you have a battery indicator? | 22:52 |
| sary | No! | 22:53 |
| roasted | and you're on a laptop? | 22:53 |
| sary | Yes. | 22:53 |
| sary | Hold up .. | 22:53 |
| roasted | what's up with the battery indicator | 22:53 |
| darkxst | roasted, perhaps its not finding your battery | 22:55 |
| roasted | darkxst: on 5 different laptops? | 22:55 |
| darkxst | roasted, I have a battery indicator here | 22:56 |
| roasted | are you on 13.04 with Gnome3 PPA? | 22:56 |
| darkxst | roasted, yes + staging | 22:56 |
| roasted | I wonder if staging brought it back. | 22:57 |
| roasted | I'm only running Gnome3 | 22:57 |
| roasted | I haven't seen a battery indicator since the 3.6 days | 22:57 |
| darkxst | roasted, looks like dbus interface was renamed | 23:01 |
| darkxst | probably it will work if you install gnome-settings-daemon via staging | 23:01 |
| roasted | or, if I just add staging itself? | 23:01 |
| darkxst | roasted, yeh thats what I meant | 23:01 |
| roasted | let me try that. I can always ppa-purge it | 23:01 |
| sary | roasted: I forgo to mention that my laptop battery is is dead, and it's running on AC power . | 23:04 |
| sary | http://imgur.com/DSxNw1N | 23:08 |
| roasted | you're missing the battery icon... | 23:10 |
| sary | so, this internal error i got .. is about evolution-calender-factory .. should i report it! | 23:10 |
| darkxst | sary, yeh | 23:11 |
| sary | darkxst: okay. | 23:12 |
| sary | darkxst: negative regarding " gnome-settings-daemon " #see http://imgur.com/7XYrIZc | 23:16 |
| roasted | woooooo! staging brought back my battery indicator! | 23:16 |
| sary | Yay! | 23:16 |
| sary | !bug #1164204 | 23:18 |
| ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 1164204 could not be found | 23:18 |
| sary | oh! it's marked as private. | 23:19 |
| roasted | staging didn't fix my nautilus crash though :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1164086 | 23:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1164086 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell non-recoverable crash when opening Nautilus more than once." [Undecided,New] | 23:21 |
| roasted | but it's nice seeing my battery charge | 23:21 |
| roasted | brightness and lock missing all together from system settings. | 23:24 |
| roasted | sigh, alright. 12.10 and 3.6, here we come. | 23:25 |
| darkxst | sary you probably need to logout and back in again | 23:25 |
| darkxst | roasted, brightness and lock was removed | 23:25 |
| roasted | why | 23:25 |
| darkxst | those settings have been moved to different panels | 23:25 |
| roasted | oh | 23:25 |
| roasted | I searched for brightness and "power" was the only thing highlighted. | 23:26 |
| darkxst | lock is under privacy | 23:27 |
| darkxst | brightness under power | 23:27 |
| roasted | I have no brightness under power... | 23:27 |
| sary | I do have both. | 23:32 |
| roasted | maybe it's just my macbook. | 23:33 |
| roasted | I'll add staging to my toshiba and see. | 23:33 |
| roasted | nice, software center is crashing on startup on my toshiba. | 23:34 |
| sary | looks like there are few changes in 3.8, but overall it's an amazing improvements. | 23:34 |
| roasted | 3.8 is really nice | 23:35 |
| roasted | but there's enough show stopping bugs to make me go back on certain systems of importance | 23:35 |
| darkxst | roasted, http://askubuntu.com/questions/244853/brightness-controls-dont-work-on-macbook-stuck-on-high-nvidia-geforce-9400m | 23:35 |
| sary | roasted: lucky you, how did you got ubuntu on your Macbook! i've been strugling for 2 weeks in a row to have a dual boot on my Mac! | 23:37 |
| roasted | sary: I am dual booting. | 23:37 |
| roasted | refit | 23:37 |
| roasted | install that on the Mac | 23:38 |
| roasted | on the OSX side of the Mac, rather | 23:38 |
| roasted | I have a 256GB SSD.. I put 50GB as OSX, installed OSX 10.8, left the rest unallocated, and then installed Ubuntu behind it | 23:38 |
| sary | nice ;) | 23:39 |
| sary | http://askubuntu.com/questions/274478/how-to-create-an-ubuntu-bootable-usb-drive-in-mac-os-x | 23:40 |
| sary | i couldn't even pass step one .. | 23:41 |
| sary | do you mind walking me through this! | 23:42 |
| sary | i know it might be off-topic here , but am sure the kind folks here will pass this :) | 23:43 |
| darkxst | sary try unetbootin | 23:50 |
| roasted | I added the x11 entry for the macbook | 23:52 |
| roasted | rebooted | 23:52 |
| roasted | now I can't get a GUI, and recovery mode from the BIOS screen locks up | 23:52 |
| roasted | linux on this macbook has been the most problematic thing ever | 23:52 |
| roasted | at least, dual booting. I've had linux on 100% of the HDD on iMacs and they've been absolutely fine | 23:53 |
| sary | darkxst: I thought about that, but on Unetbootin website it's stated that the tool will only boot on PC's not mac's . | 23:53 |
| darkxst | oh | 23:53 |
| sary | I've also tried with another GUI tool linux for mac .. didn't work . | 23:54 |
| sary | I'm just not quite sure what am doing wrong to dd the iso on mac! i mean i managed to dd ubuntu 12.04 on the exact mac to the same usb drive .. and this is how i got ubuntu installed on this old Dell laptop. | 23:58 |
| sary | and it's also mentioned that the start up creater won't make a bootable usb stick either. | 23:59 |
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