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wesa00:29
phillwNoskcaj: ping00:38
l3elivEWhen is the hangout?02:24
ePierreHi02:27
ePierreI believe it was... 6 hours ago :)02:27
sary!bug #116202703:00
ubot5`bug 1162027 in testdrive (Ubuntu) ""global name 'gobject' is not defined" error on TestDrive just installed on fresh Raring" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116202703:00
pittiGood morning04:22
ePierreHi!04:23
balloonsguten nacht :-)04:25
ePierreBonne nuit :)04:26
ePierre晚安 (if UTF8 works fine...)04:26
balloons:-) indeed!04:26
* balloons waves to ePierre 04:26
jibelgood morning06:47
ePierrehey06:47
dholbachgood morning06:49
pittijibel: thanks for the first three armhf autopkgtests!07:13
jibelpitti, you're welcome.07:14
jibelpitti, I prepared the 3 other nodes and enabled it for all the packages07:14
pittijibel: is there some chance that we can get the usual logs from those?07:14
pittihttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-apport-armhf/4/07:14
pittiupower and g-i succeed07:14
jibelpitti, logs are here https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-apport-armhf/4/ARCH=armhf,label=1ss-panda01/07:16
jibelunder the badly named configuration 'default'. that's what jenkins set when there is only one value07:17
pittiooh, I see07:17
dholbachsalut pitti07:17
pittijibel: ugh, that's full of failures; that's going to be fun07:17
pittihallo dholbach, wie gehts?07:18
pittijibel: thanks, I'll debug that on the nexus07:18
jibelpitti, there will be some limitations due to lxc, for example access to devices in /dev07:18
dholbachpitti, sehr gut - wie geht's Dir? :)07:18
pittidholbach: prima, danke! es war ein schoenes langes Osterwochenende in Dresden07:18
dholbachhier auch :)07:18
pittijibel: there are some obvious ones, like "archive.u.c." not having armhf or different kernel package names, but no off-hand idea about the missing core dumps07:19
psivaabdmurray: yes, the server and desktop upgrade tests run every day for standard packages08:20
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xnoxCan somebody tell me the magic of dl-ubuntu-test-iso?13:17
xnoxI'd like to use to download e.g. nexus7 images but I'm failing to specify the "right" command line args.13:17
xnoxis there a way to list all possible & working combos of arch/flavour/release/variant?13:17
jibelxnox, I think nexus images are not supported by the tool13:19
jibelAFAIR the list of supported arch/flavour/release/variant is hardcoded13:19
xnoxjibel: yet "dl-ubuntu-test-iso --only ubuntu --arch armhf+nexus7" started the .img.gz download for me =)13:20
jibelxnox, right, someone added armhf+nexus713:20
xnoxjibel: apart from it did not download the "bootimg" portion =(13:23
jibelxnox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5673606/ should work, I'll propose an MP13:36
bdmurraypsivaa: where are they?  I could not find them in jenkins13:36
xnoxjibel: nice =) thanks.13:36
psivaabdmurray: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-upgrade-quantal-server/ is one of them13:37
psivaabdmurray: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/Smoke%20Testing/job/raring-upgrade-quantal-desktop/ is another13:38
psivaabdmurray: plars  was working on to get get the universe and main packages as well, but in progress i suppose13:39
bdmurraypsivaa: okay, thanks I found what I was looking for13:41
psivaabdmurray: yw13:42
plarspsivaa: yes, it needs a lot of hand holding to get it working right and it takes up to 30 hours to find out if it's going to work. I don't have time to do this right now, but after raring release I'd like to revisit it for p->s upgrade testing13:42
plarsfor universe that is13:42
psivaaplars: ok, thanks13:48
smartboyhwHiyas phille13:49
smartboyhwphillw13:49
phillwhiyas smartboyhw13:49
psivaabdmurray: btw, i have duped bug 1163266 to bug 1161943. please let me know if you want me to revert. the older bug also contains the indicator-session segfault logs13:50
ubot5bug 1161943 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1163266 oem-config hangs when removing ubquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116194313:50
ubot5bug 1161943 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config hangs when removing ubquity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116194313:50
* xnox didn't have much luck fixing it though =(13:52
psivaabut it 'appears' fixed in 20130402.1 though. the hanging part that is13:54
psivaaxnox: it was possible to complete oem installations with the latest images13:54
xnoxpsivaa: do we archive manifests, such that we can "diff" them?13:55
xnoxpsivaa: yes, we do, let me check what has changed.13:56
shadeslayerstgraber: what's the option to pass to lxc-create so that any modifications I do once the container is built are non persistent?14:22
smartboyhwphillw: Since when is amjjawad making QA announcements of Lubuntu for ya?14:23
phillwsmartboyhw: since my server has been having a major issue!14:23
smartboyhwuh oh what issue?14:24
smartboyhwphillw and balloons BTW extremely sorry for missing the events yesterday, not my timezome14:25
smartboyhw*timezone14:25
phillwsmartboyhw: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=636314:25
phillwI'm just pulling in the lubuntu alternate amd64 to test locally.14:26
smartboyhwUh oh14:26
smartboyhwphillw: Get on your ppc testers:-P14:26
smartboyhwballoons: plz deop14:28
phillwsmartboyhw: they're waiting for the ppc desktop to land... Lars has already nagged me!14:28
smartboyhwGood that we (Ubuntu Studio) doesn't have such thing.14:29
smartboyhwphillw: And BTW I strongly recommend you guys to have an LTS for 14.0414:29
smartboyhwAnd I think you guys should use a better reason of why 12.04 isn't LTS (compared to manpower issues)14:30
phillwsmartboyhw: there is no better reason NOT to have an LTS than a manpower issue. It would simply not be possible at present. The debate for an LTS for 14.04 has already started, with the guy who puts together lxle looking to learn about backporting and thus joining :)14:32
smartboyhwphillw: No a better reason is that according to the guideline for flavour approval says that you need to do two normal releases before having an LTS. Henceforth it wasn't just manpower, the TB won't approve it at all for 12.0414:34
smartboyhwlol14:34
phillwsmartboyhw: you forget the history of how to adopt a new flavour... there wasn't a procedure before lubuntu arrived, writing it delayed our adoption by a cycle :D14:39
smartboyhw.......14:39
smartboyhwLOL14:39
smartboyhwphillw: Come on I joined Ubuntu after 12.04 LTS was released14:40
phillwxnox: sorry to ping you, but does BenC have a PPC server on which he can test that particular ISO? none of our QA team have access to such kit as the tests for PPC server want and we can only run a minimal set of tasks.14:40
smartboyhwHow can I remember when I don't know!14:40
phillwsmartboyhw: lol14:41
smartboyhwphillw: ;P14:43
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=== balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Raring Final Beta Testing
smartboyhwballoons thx for deop-ing16:55
balloonssmartboyhw, :-) sorry.. I must have left it on16:57
balloonssmartboyhw, if we have another testing event like that, we could try do do one in your timezone timing.. we had one scheduled, but no one expressed interest for keeping it, so I didn't have it. Since then, seems like there is some interest.. if we do it again, I would include it17:01
balloonsso you could take part :-)17:01
balloonslike 800 UTC?17:01
smartboyhw1400 UTC17:01
balloons1400 UTC would be your preferred time?17:01
smartboyhwYep17:02
balloonsinteresting...17:02
smartboyhwI am never sure on date though17:02
balloonslol17:02
balloonsso that's like 2200 local time for you?17:03
smartboyhwballoons: That fits the about-to-sleep Asians, Europeans eating lunch and woken Americans17:03
smartboyhwballoons yes17:03
balloonsi suppose your right.. it's 0700 even on the west coast by then17:03
smartboyhwThat's my perfect time17:04
balloonsI assumed that would be too late for you :-) ok, well, we'll try17:04
smartboyhwballoons no 2200 Hong Kong time is best17:05
smartboyhwThe problem is I don't have a webcam17:06
smartboyhwAnd my parents probably allow me to go on events like these17:06
smartboyhw And I don't want to scare everyone with my pimply face17:07
balloonssmartboyhw, lol.. you don't have to do video17:07
smartboyhw* don't allow17:07
balloonsyou could just hangout on IRC.. or do a demo and just share your desktop and voice..17:07
smartboyhwballoons I like IRC17:07
balloonsbut again.. IRC is also good:-)17:07
smartboyhwballoons maybe a demo will be good17:08
smartboyhwballoons fire up your machines, I heard that the images are undertested.17:09
smartboyhwlol17:09
balloonslol.. we were all ready yesterday!17:10
smartboyhwballoons well I just heard it in #ubuntu-release surprise!17:10
smartboyhwAnd more suprisingly Noskcaj is running for Xubuntu Project Lead!17:11
smartboyhw(infinity) cjwatson: We seem pretty woefully undertested at the moment, except for core.17:11
balloonsohh project lead?17:11
balloonsgood for him :) is someone stepping down  or ?17:11
smartboyhwballoons I think he will get under 10 votes17:11
smartboyhwballoons regular procedure17:12
balloonsahh.. just normal election time17:12
smartboyhwballoons the problem is17:12
smartboyhw1. People don't trust 14-year-olds like Noskcaj (or me) to lead17:12
smartboyhw2. He isn't a Ubuntu Member nor in the Xubuntu Team LP group17:13
smartboyhw3. He is still new in testing compared to me and the previous generatios of testers17:14
balloonsahh.. well, if he wants to pursue getting more involved, he should.. and there are likely places he can help out.. "leader" or not17:14
smartboyhwI won't vote for him either.17:14
balloonsyour title or lack of title never stopped you.. shouldn't stop him etheir17:15
smartboyhwballoons I am not lack of titles lol17:15
smartboyhwballoons ah BTW meet our new Ubuntu Studio Project Lead zequence (Kaj Ailomaa)17:16
balloonsI've seen mails from him :-)17:20
balloonslooks like you had quite an april fools day17:20
smartboyhwballoons what happened to the QA people interview idea?17:20
smartboyhwballoons yeah, first played by ogra_ then this17:21
smartboyhwI am away at Hangzhou on April Fools Day17:21
balloonsright now is busy time for such things :-) after release we have more freedom17:21
smartboyhwAnd I was clearly beaten by these things17:21
balloonsthat's quite a trip away17:22
balloonsno wonder you flew :-)17:23
smartboyhwLOL17:23
smartboyhwballoons wondering: How many tabs do you get in your Administration page of the ISO QA Tracker? lol17:25
balloonsnot as many as the release team :-)17:28
smartboyhwballoons exact number!17:28
balloons8?17:28
smartboyhwballoons: including summary tav17:29
smartboyhw?17:29
balloonsare you curious if you have more?17:29
balloonsmy guess is yes17:29
smartboyhwballoons I have 617:29
smartboyhwEh lol17:29
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plarsjamespage: I'm trying to run the iscsi tests and the unauth mode seems to work for me but not auth on current raring image. It seems to hang after bootsplash on the boot18:25
plarsjamespage: hmm, actually it seems like maybe it's hanging at random places and not just on that one. I'm trying to boot the i386 one with unauth and it's stopped after starting configure network device used by iSCSI root18:31
phillwballoons: I only have 3... summary, TestCases & TestSuites .... Should I have more?18:33
balloonsphillw, no18:37
balloonsflavors leads also get a tab to manage releases18:37
phillwballoons: okies :)18:37
balloonsand the release team gets to manage much more than that ofc18:38
phillwballoons: you mean this? https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-product-managers18:38
balloonsI don't control access :-)18:40
phillw'boss' made it official a while back, so there was no doubt of my having 'GO / NO GO' for release questions :)18:40
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Letozaf_balloons, Hey18:49
balloonsLetozaf_, hello18:49
Letozaf_balloons, Hi18:50
Letozaf_balloons, I am having the same problem I had yesterday with the Panda board18:50
balloonswith the updated iso?18:50
Letozaf_balloons, black screen after reboot, cursor blinking on the top left18:50
Letozaf_balloons, yes18:50
Letozaf_balloons, the problem is I cannot do anything so I have no logs18:51
Letozaf_balloons, for reporting a bug18:51
balloonsright.. hnn18:51
balloonsso you can't even get to a grub menu?18:51
Letozaf_balloons, it boots, you initially see the ubuntu logo and then all goes black18:52
Letozaf_balloons, my impression is that its only a display problem but cannot give any info on it18:53
Letozaf_balloons, when I switched the Panda board off and then on again I saw that it checked the volume as it was inappropriately tured off and then it went black again18:55
balloonsLetozaf_, so try booting into recovery mode18:57
balloonsdon't start x18:57
balloonsyou should be able to grab logs that way18:57
Letozaf_balloons, right, let me try18:57
fanysCZhello, will be Mesa 9.1 in Ubuntu Raring or will it be postponed to 13.10?19:07
jono__if you watchig Q+A videocast, please join #ubuntu-on-air19:09
balloonsjono__, let me fix that.. ohh.. seems like you've done it19:11
balloonsLetozaf_, any luck?19:11
Letozaf_balloons, no :( let me send you a link to a picture, just a second19:19
Letozaf_balloons, probably it's not only a display problem, it looks like but it is not : https://plus.google.com/photos/110772571847074999454/albums/5862702578676887281?authkey=CN3c8Z-G8PTOdA19:21
balloonswhat's the last line mean in english? :-019:22
Letozaf_balloons, :D   press C to cancel currently running disk checks19:23
balloonsahh so the first part says something about disk controller error?19:24
Letozaf_balloons, I tried to press shift or escape just after switching on19:24
Letozaf_balloons, but it does not boot into recovery mode :(19:24
balloonswe might need to poke the #ubuntu-arm guys19:24
balloonsi wonder if there's another issue with the graphics driver and the new kernel / xstack19:25
Letozaf_balloons, no it says that  checking hard drive errors and that it can take some time to do it19:25
Letozaf_balloons, that "CPU interrupts balancing daemon" already occurred in previous test I had reported a bug19:26
Letozaf_balloons, let me find it19:26
balloonswell.. is it a dsik issue?19:26
Letozaf_balloons, I think the message is there because I switched off the panda board19:27
Letozaf_balloons, just pulling  the power cord out19:27
Letozaf_balloons, so after reboot it does a disk check19:27
Letozaf_balloons, I did not turn it off normally as I could not19:28
balloonsohh right right19:29
balloons;)19:29
Letozaf_balloons, I think the last two lines are just saying that the panda board was shut down in  a "bad way" and that the file system is being checked for errors19:29
Letozaf_balloons, the panda board now is stuck cannot do anything its like freezed19:30
Letozaf_balloons, with what you see in the photo19:30
Letozaf_balloons, I had reported bug number 109912319:31
Letozaf_bug 109912319:31
ubot5bug 1099123 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ARM install stalls on keyboard detection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109912319:31
Letozaf_balloons, wait its the wrong bug :(19:31
Letozaf_balloons, here is the right one bug 116198119:34
ubot5bug 1161981 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Boot stalls after Ubuntu Raring desktop ARM (Panda board) install" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116198119:34
Letozaf_balloons, if you look at the attached screen-shot it has the same CPU interrupts balancing daemon message19:34
balloonsLetozaf_, k19:46
balloonsindeed19:46
balloonsit's marked as incomplete, waiting for logs19:46
balloonsumm19:46
balloonsdid you install to the sd card or to the usb drive?19:47
balloonsetheir way, I'm guessing you could mount that on your main machine and get the logs that way :-)19:47
Letozaf_balloons, I installed to a USB drive it's a new one19:47
balloonshehe19:47
Letozaf_balloons, yes !19:47
balloonsmake sense?19:47
Letozaf_balloons, of course19:48
* balloons notes we weren't thinking!19:48
Letozaf_balloons, :P19:48
Letozaf_balloons, I will do it now :)19:48
Letozaf_balloons, thanks. I'm attaching the logs to the bug :P20:04
balloonstyay!20:04
phillwNoskcaj: are you about?21:12
Noskcajphillw, yeah, for the next 5 minutes21:13
phillwNoskcaj: have a look at bug 1092349 Brian wants to know if it is still an issue.21:15
ubot5bug 1092349 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "encrypt /home in raring fails on reboot" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/109234921:15
phillwNoskcaj: see http://pastebin.com/XGUt69M021:16
Noskcaji'll have a look at the bug when i'm home from school. i was never able to confirm it though21:17
phillwI'll mark it as invalid, I've not come across it myself.21:17
xnoxphillw: did you do (a) home folder encryption - a tick box during user-setup or (b) full disk-encryption a tickbox on the partitioning page ?21:17
phillwxnox: I do the encrypt your home folder during set up.21:18
xnoxphillw: which set up.21:18
phillwlubuntu amd64 alt21:19
phillwI did not see comment #5 asking me for my passphrase, just telling me to note it down.21:20
phillwI'm just finishing the i386 'encrypted home' install now, anything you want to look out for?21:22
SergioMeneseshi all!21:32
balloonshi SergioMeneses21:41
SergioMenesesballoons, hey! I'm answering emails :S RU-loco and another things21:43
SergioMenesesbtw I saw the qa-post on G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/108452779163647535106/posts/JWPS2ryB5rJ21:43
SergioMenesesnice21:43
balloons:-)21:57
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