* Riddell fails kubuntu active image01:35
Riddelland the arm image doesn't work :(01:38
Riddellbug 116423901:40
ubottubug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "does not start on kubuntu 13.04 beta 2 arm image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116423901:40
* Riddell sleeps01:40
ScottKLubuntu had trouble with their ac100 image. Dunno if it's related.02:22
=== ovidiu-florin_ is now known as ovidiu-florin
smartboyhwRiddell, so the arm + active aren't going in?10:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: no I guess not :(10:08
smartboyhwRiddell, erm:(10:08
Riddellarm doesn't load up ubiquity at all and active crashes10:08
smartboyhwshadeslayer, yeah:(10:15
smartboyhwRiddell, is nootka fixed?10:21
smartboyhwI mean for powerpc10:21
Riddelldunno I've not looked at it10:24
smartboyhwRiddell, ....10:24
smartboyhwMight be good to fix it today10:25
Riddellhow's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Beta2/Kubuntu10:25
smartboyhwRiddell, looking:P10:25
Riddellhttp://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_quantal.html too needs fixed10:26
smartboyhwRiddell, +110:26
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah a hell lot of errors10:26
smartboyhwI'm restarting cantor build because I can't find log10:27
smartboyhwAnd i386 builds good10:27
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah looks fine10:27
smartboyhwI am restarting kalgebra Quantal amd6410:29
smartboyhwThe dependencies should be Ok now10:29
smartboyhwkhangman restart10:31
smartboyhwBasically after restarting everything should be good for Quantal10:32
RiddellI wonder why pykde didn't get uploaded10:33
smartboyhwRiddell, good question hmm10:38
Riddelluploaded, hopefully that'll tell us if the compile failure in raring is an issue in pykde or in qt10:40
smartboyhwRiddell, :)10:40
* Riddell turns attention to http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_precise.html10:42
Riddellhmm, more issues there10:43
smartboyhwRiddell, eee:(10:43
* shadeslayer looks10:49
shadeslayerhow is it that kalzium is waiting on boost 0.o10:49
Quintasanshadeslayer: I think boost is being rebuilt10:50
Quintasanbut you might want to check that10:50
Riddellcos there's no libboost-python1.49-dev in precise?10:50
shadeslayerRiddell: yes, but shouldn't the backport script have taken care of that10:51
Riddellnothing in the backports script about it10:51
Riddelloh there is10:51
Riddellthe precise one gets applied to all and should handle it10:52
smartboyhwScript fail?10:52
smartboyhwRiddell, you guys got good to go builds, we don't:(10:53
smartboyhwwe = Ubuntu Studio10:53
smartboyhwRiddell, how about upgrade testcases?10:54
Riddellsmartboyhw: mm I've not done that one11:07
smartboyhwRiddell, yep11:07
smartboyhw!testers | please help test the upgrades and report the results in the ISO QA Tracker11:08
ubottuplease help test the upgrades and report the results in the ISO QA Tracker: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.11:08
soeeyofel, i tested 4.10.2 on may laptop yesterday, all was fine11:13
Riddellsoee: great thanks11:13
Riddellshadeslayer, smartboyhw: oh I see what I did wrong with the backport script to not get the hooks applied11:14
soeeRiddell, should i test some ISO on VM ?11:14
smartboyhwRiddell, :)11:14
smartboyhwsoee, no need11:14
smartboyhwThe builds are pretty much ready11:14
smartboyhwExcept the arm + active11:14
Riddellsoee: yes that would be very good if you could11:14
Riddellsmartboyhw: there's a need, I don't trust myself as the only tester11:15
shadeslayerRiddell: hmm?11:15
shadeslayeryou can probably re upload you know :P11:15
Riddellshadeslayer: I will11:15
shadeslayer12.04.3 or whatever :D11:15
shadeslayerRiddell: what went wrong?11:15
smartboyhwRiddell, oh OK11:15
smartboyhwI am testing the Studio ones myself here though11:15
Riddellshadeslayer: calling the script with the wrong argument11:16
soeeRiddell, where can i find download links ?11:16
Riddellsmartboyhw: then you're very trusting on yourself :)11:16
Riddellsoee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20130403/11:17
smartboyhwRiddell, I have another tester this time11:17
smartboyhwAnd we have our project lead11:17
smartboyhwRiddell, I need to remind you that Ubuntu Studio is ALWAYS not enough of testers11:18
Quintasansmartboyhw: We don't have enough testers here as well11:22
smartboyhwQuintasan, we are much short of it11:23
Quintasanyofel: u[pgrade qa borked11:23
QuintasanRiddell: I think I installed Beta 2 on my PC yesterday, I'll use that as a reference11:24
shadeslayeryofel: ping11:28
* Quintasan looks at the plasma active11:29
smartboyhwQuintasan, oh?11:31
* Quintasan wonders where the hell are i386 images for active11:32
Quintasangot it11:33
RiddellQuintasan: tell me it's not just me it crashes for11:33
QuintasanRiddell: I'll try11:33
QuintasanI will look into it if it actually does crash here11:34
Quintasanwill try in vbox and then liveusb11:34
soeethe latest muon release is marked as stable ?11:38
Quintasansoee: ... we usually provide stable versions of package managers11:38
Quintasansoee: are you on raring?11:39
soeeQuintasan, yes11:39
Quintasan!info muon raring11:39
ubottumuon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 197 kB, installed size 1377 kB11:39
Quintasansoee: looks like 2.0 is in raring, that should be stable unless JontheEchidna says otherwise11:40
soeeQuintasan, ok thank you11:40
Tm_TI successfully upgraded packages from ninjas-ppa on quantal11:43
Tm_Tno conflicts or other issues11:43
Tm_Twill reboot the machine in few moments to see how the full stack works now11:44
Tm_Tanything particular I should keep an eye on?11:44
QuintasanTm_T: Just do what you usually do11:49
QuintasanIt's better imo than doing things on purpose11:49
Tm_Talthough what I usually do is basicly launch terminals, browsers, and then sit on those two weeks11:50
Tm_Toh, Kontact ofcourse too11:51
QuintasanTm_T: You might want to test Muon :P11:51
Quintasanoh, that actually will do a lot of testing11:51
Tm_TQuintasan: is Muon like Wajig but with GUI? (;11:51
* Tm_T hides11:51
QuintasanJontheEchidna: Kill him ^11:51
QuintasanRiddell: Well, Plasma Workspace died two times here and suddenly started11:58
* Quintasan does liveusb12:03
smartboyhwWhat happened!?12:05
yofelRiddell: you do not backport pykde12:05
yofelRiddell: too many python3.3 specific changes in raring12:05
yofelshadeslayer: pong?12:05
yofelQuintasan: which upgrade qa?12:06
shadeslayeryofel: does auto-upgrade-tester + lxc work ? and more importantly, does it work on the buyvm storage server?12:07
yofelshadeslayer: works more or less, but with 256M of memory it looks bad12:08
yofelmostly because during the one test I did on the storage server it launched lightdm, which used ~100M of memory for some reason12:08
yofeldidn't have time to debug it12:08
shadeslayeryofel: define looks bad?12:11
shadeslayerdoes it not complete?12:11
Quintasanyofel: webpage12:12
QuintasanRiddell: Moderately bad news12:12
QuintasanRiddell: LiveUSB works on my laptop12:12
QuintasanIt boots up just fine, no crashes12:12
Quintasanbut I can't test it since I don't have a touch screen and dunno how to enable mouse there :X12:12
QuintasanIn vbox it does crash but the workspace dies12:13
smartboyhwQuintasan, hmm Riddell has some strange board then12:13
Quintasansmartboyhw: How about you test it before assuming something?12:14
smartboyhwQuintasan, no. Still testing Ubuntu Studio (installing to get the post-installation things done, and I still need to get on with the upgrades)12:14
smartboyhwUbuntu Studio is my 1st priority12:14
smartboyhwFollowed by Kubuntu of course;)12:15
QuintasanThen I'd appreciate if you didn't jump to conslusion that early12:15
QuintasanIt might be my board that's strange because it works here whereas it should not12:15
smartboyhwQuintasan, that is a pre-conclusion:P12:15
QuintasanDon't assume stuff without evidence then12:16
yofelshadeslayer: right, fails at some point12:16
Quintasanshadeslayer: We need more testing for Active12:16
yofelQuintasan: that points to shadeslayer's server12:16
Quintasanshadeslayer: fix qa webpage as well12:16
shadeslayerI'll renable ec2 stuff then12:16
yofeland that's broken till we have  a successful upgrade path12:16
yofelyeah, best do that, at least until raring is ou12:17
yofelshadeslayer: 12:18
yofeldpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-keyring_3.6.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):^M12:18
yofel unable to make backup link of `./usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon' before installing new version: Cannot allocate memory^M12:18
yofellets try again12:19
yofel15124 root      20   0  104m 102m 5788 S   0.0 42.7   0:00.09 lightdm                                                                                                                          12:19
Riddellyofel: ah hah12:20
RiddellQuintasan: it crashes but then works?12:20
QuintasanRiddell: In VBox it crashed twice and the started up12:20
ovidiu-florinwhen will the next kernel update planned fot precise?12:20
smartboyhwQuintasan, and the *what* started up?12:21
smartboyhwovidiu-florin, ask in #ubuntu-kernel please:)12:21
ovidiu-florinthank you 12:21
smartboyhwWe aren't the ones maintaining the -generic kernel12:21
QuintasanRiddell: using LiveUSB it started with no problems but I could not do anything because I couldn't get a cursor :P12:21
RiddellQuintasan: yeah the cursor now doesn't show which is a bit annoying12:22
smartboyhwRiddell, Quintasan +112:22
smartboyhwRiddell, you should propose to the Kubuntu Council of buying a Intel Atom powered tablet:P12:23
shadeslayeryofel: so something starts lightdm which takes a batshit amount of resident memory?12:23
shadeslayersmartboyhw: intel tablets are crap12:24
yofelshadeslayer: well, it boots a normally installed system (with lightdm) and runs upgrade, so that kinda makes sense12:24
yofelset lightdm to manual now12:24
smartboyhwshadeslayer, well at least we can actually test...12:24
yofelshadeslayer: echo manual > /etc/init/lightdm.override12:24
Quintasansmartboyhw: We can buy tablets but you need a person which would work on that most of the time where it's not viable at this moment12:25
smartboyhwJust a suggestion:P12:25
Quintasanwe still need to get packaging sorted out to make sure it complies with standards and what upstream wants12:26
shadeslayeryofel: or well ... just write a script that watches for the lightdm process and does stops it in the lxc?12:26
yofelshadeslayer: why stop it when I can trivially prevent it from starting...12:27
* shadeslayer rages at KWallet12:27
Riddell4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa2 uploaded to ninjas12:27
Quintasanshadeslayer: How is ktp 0.6?12:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: waiting for desktop-applets to finish building https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring12:29
Quintasanshadeslayer: Is that the last thing?12:29
Quintasanwhy are you building it there?12:29
shadeslayerthat's for raring12:29
shadeslayerand the telepathy-kde ppa's are for final release12:30
QuintasanPut everydamn stable release there12:30
Quintasan0.6 is stable derp12:30
Quintasanstable == not daily in case of ktp12:30
shadeslayeryou want me to upload without QA? :D12:30
Tm_TVirtuoso is eating all CPU here12:31
yofelit does that from time to time12:31
yofelshould be nice'd12:31
Tm_Tyofel: the problem is, it haven't done it this way for years12:31
Tm_Tyes I know it eats some cpu in time to time, but this much this long hasn't been normal for some time anymore12:32
yofelhm, maybe vHanda might know what it would be doing12:32
Tm_TI have forgotten how to debug this as it has been working so nicely (:12:32
Tm_Tother than that, all seems to work just fine here12:33
soeeyofel, remide ne one more time the author of homerun pls ?12:33
shadeslayeragateau: 12:33
agateausoee: that would be me12:33
Quintasanagateau has arrived!12:34
soeeagateau, is it possible to to add context menu to trash icon that contain "Empty trash" action?12:34
soeeatm trash icon is located in favourite places12:34
agateausoee: should be doable yes12:34
agateausoee: file a bug on bugs.kde.org so that I do not forget it12:34
soeeagateau, ok thank you12:34
Quintasan krdc  4:4.8.55-0ubuntu1~ppa412:36
Quintasan krfb  4:4.8.55-0ubuntu1~ppa312:36
Quintasanshadeslayer: ^ we need those in PPA?12:36
shadeslayernuke em12:36
soeeagateau, what component should i set ?12:37
agateausoee: "sources"12:37
Quintasanshadeslayer:  >0.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1~ppa112:37
Quintasanyou wat m8?12:38
shadeslayerwhat's that?12:38
agateauwe put some ppa in your ppa so you can ppa while you ppa12:38
BluesKajHiyas all12:38
Quintasanshadeslayer:  ktp-send-file  0.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1~ppa112:38
shadeslayerthe name12:39
QuintasanI'd purge the whole repo actually shadeslayer12:39
Quintasanwe need to get things there straight12:39
shadeslayerthe reason it's probably like that is because I ran the backportpackage script on the PPA packages12:39
Quintasanwhy do we have logger 0.5.2 for 12.04 and 0.5.3 for 12.10?12:39
shadeslayerno big deal, we can fix with the 0.6 upload12:39
QuintasanI'm killing it with fire12:39
Quintasanall of it12:39
shadeslayerdon't delete the glib packages12:40
shadeslayerjust only delete the ktp packages plz12:40
Quintasanshadeslayer: can I kill qt-gstreamer as well?12:41
smartboyhwQuintasan, stay calm:)12:41
shadeslayerit's required12:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: qt-gstreamer and telepathty-glib are left12:42
Quintasanthe rest was nuked12:42
QuintasanNow, we can't upload 0.6 to raring, can we?12:42
shadeslayersure we can12:42
shadeslayer!info kde-telepathy-contact-list12:43
ubottukde-telepathy-contact-list (source: ktp-contact-list): Telepathy contact list for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 151 kB, installed size 955 kB12:43
shadeslayer!info kde-telepathy-contact-list raring12:43
ubottukde-telepathy-contact-list (source: ktp-contact-list): Telepathy contact list for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.80-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 173 kB, installed size 1090 kB12:43
QuintasanHow exactly do you think we can do it?12:43
soeeagateau, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31782512:43
ubottuKDE bug 317825 in sources "Context menu with 'Empty trash' link for trash icon" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed]12:43
shadeslayerQuintasan: we got a FFe for it?12:43
shadeslayerand 0.6 will be a bug fix only upload?12:43
Quintasanwe already got ffe?12:43
Quintasanshadeslayer actually gets things done12:44
shadeslayerbecause I'm awesome :P12:44
QuintasanWill you upload that or you want me to do that?12:44
shadeslayerI'll upload it later tonight12:44
QuintasanI'll do the backporting then12:44
shadeslayerwill probably upload tomorrow12:45
shadeslayerdesktop-applets will build in 8 hours :(12:45
Quintasanpostponed till tomorrow then12:45
Tm_TVirtuoso is still eating the cpu12:46
Tm_Tok, have to go home, will do something about that when I can12:47
Tm_Tuff crap12:48
Tm_T"display settings" is only gamma settings now12:48
Tm_Tthere's no way configuring monitor setup anymore?12:48
yofelshadeslayer: go skip build queue if you need it. Ninjas will eat up build time too, so if you keep it low you'll have it built in 14h or so12:48
yofelTm_T: kscreen didn't get installed for you?12:52
Tm_Tno it didn't, new package that isn't dependency?12:53
yofelit's recommended by kubuntu-desktop12:53
Tm_T...recommended but not dependency?12:53
Tm_Tyofel: how does that work?12:54
yofelyou should be able to remove it and replace it with kde-workspace-randr12:54
yofelso not a hard dependency12:54
Tm_TI see12:54
yofelit *should* be installed on upgrades though12:55
Tm_Tit wasn't, neither kde-workspace-randr12:55
Tm_Tso dependency that has OR with those two?12:55
yofelno idea how to do that with seeds12:55
yofelRiddell: ^ ?12:55
yofelRiddell: did you update the meta package for the backports yet btw.? (same issue)12:56
shadeslayeryofel: any ideas why running sudo python bin/auto-upgrade-tester -b UpgradeTestBackendEC2 share/profiles/kubuntu share/profiles/kubuntu-backports/ only tests the kubuntu profile?12:56
Riddellyofel: nope, needs to depend on kde-workspace-randr ?12:57
yofelRiddell: yes12:57
yofelshadeslayer: because of ProfileName=kubuntu12:58
yofelshare/profiles/kubuntu-backports/DistUpgrade.cfg  -> ProfileName=kubuntu12:58
yofelshould be kubuntu-backports12:58
shadeslayeroh lol12:58
shadeslayerneeds fixing12:59
shadeslayerRiddell: did you kill my instance?13:02
Riddellshadeslayer: oh I killed everything, are you using it?13:05
Riddellshadeslayer: stopped killing now13:05
shadeslayeryeah :D13:05
shadeslayeryofel: I don't think it worked13:06
shadeslayerunless it appends the output to the current html page13:09
yofelmy test run is still running for now, which is good13:12
Riddell"About 3 hours 24 minutes remaining" maybe running an upgrade test on a netbook wasn't such a good idea13:13
shadeslayerupgrade also running on ec213:16
shadeslayerso not to worry13:16
* Riddell fires up kde-l10n13:17
shadeslayerQuintasan: btw uploading ktp tonight won't matter13:19
shadeslayerQuintasan: we're in beta freeze13:19
QuintasanWhat is Freeze?13:19
yofelshadeslayer: you can upload anyway13:20
shadeslayerbut it won't really matter :P13:20
yofelyeah ^^13:21
smartboyhwRiddell, eh that isn't really a great idea;P13:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: l10n isn't?13:22
smartboyhwRiddell, the upgrade test:P13:23
Riddellah well down to 1 hour 9 minutes now :)13:23
yofelforgot to apply the grub-pc fix in LXC...13:24
* yofel tries again13:24
smartboyhwRiddell, :)13:24
shadeslayeryofel: there's a fix for that?13:25
yofelshadeslayer: sure, copy script from raring into container before upgrade13:25
yofelbrrrrr, you can only have one PostBootstrapScript13:27
Riddellyofel: what's grub-pc and LXC?13:28
shadeslayeryeah :|13:28
shadeslayerRiddell: instead of using EC2 to test upgrades we can use LXC ( Linux Containers )13:28
shadeslayercost effective if you can find a powerful enough server13:29
yofelRiddell: LXC is kinda chroots being used as VM's, and we had an issue that zz-update-grub (kernel postinst hook) fails during upgrade becase it has no rootfs device in LXC (fixed in raring)13:30
shadeslayer13.10? 0.o13:39
Riddellah, similar to vserver we use on sladen's servers13:40
smartboyhw0.o We don't even know the name for 13.10 yet13:40
shadeslayerRiddell: sladen's server?13:40
Riddellshadeslayer: the ones I use for e-mail and whatnot, starsky.19inch.net13:42
yofelsmartboyhw: launchpad has targets for 3 releases in the feature too (s-series, t-series, u-series)13:43
smartboyhwyofel, I know13:43
smartboyhwOK guys let us play a name-guessing game (LOL)13:43
yofelnah, we can do that in 2 weeks13:43
yofelan well, might as well do it now ^^13:44
yofelI'll go with skimpy skunk13:45
genii-aroundsexy swan13:45
shadeslayersexy ScottK13:45
* ScottK looks up.13:46
Riddellsmartboy scallywag13:46
* smartboyhw tores Riddell apart13:48
Riddell13.10: the saucy shadeslayer 13:48
smartboyhwscallyway shadeslayer :P13:48
smartboyhwsoda soee :P13:48
apachelogger_Quintasan: on trello -> options-settings-last option13:49
apachelogger_also make more people admin :P13:49
smartboyhwsoee, your IRC nick will be included in the next S release codename:P13:49
* genii-around sips and ponders if sasquatch could be considered an animal name13:50
soeeah yes i know it already, they told me ill be the next release face13:50
shadeslayersuperb shadeslayer13:50
smartboyhwshadeslayer, boo;P13:51
yofelslothful shadeslayer13:51
smartboyhwsmarter smartboyhw (using two actual IRC nicks here) 13:51
* apachelogger_ has 300 bug notifications in his inbox -.-13:52
smartboyhwapachelogger_, uh oh. Mark them all as read:P13:53
shadeslayerthat's what I'd do :D13:53
Quintasanwhat is S codename13:53
yofelas I said, slothful shadeslayer ^^13:54
apachelogger_bug 116363213:54
ubottubug 1163632 in nepomuk-core (Ubuntu) "nepomukserver crashed with SIGSEGV in close()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116363213:54
shadeslayerProfile 'share/profiles/kubuntu' FAILED13:56
apachelogger_vHanda: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/110469044/ThreadStacktrace.txt13:57
apachelogger_bug 102656713:57
ubottubug 1026567 in nepomuk-core (Ubuntu) "nepomukserver crashed with SIGSEGV in _int_free()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102656713:57
yofelshadeslayer: keep a look at http://kyofel2.dyndns.org/upgrade/13:59
shadeslayeryofel: question, does BuyVM auto bill you?14:08
shadeslayeror do you have to authorize repeat payments ?14:08
JontheEchidnaQuintasan: heh14:10
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yofelshadeslayer: dunno, ask me again in 2 months14:10
smartboyhwRiddell, you prepared anything for CC meeting?:P14:11
shadeslayeryofel: anyway, bought the storage KVM :D14:13
shadeslayerI'm going run owncloud on it ^_^14:14
soeehow can i format flash drive ?14:18
shadeslayersudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdX14:19
shadeslayerwhere X is something that maps to your flash drive14:19
soeeshadeslayer, sudo: mkfs.vfat: command not found14:25
shadeslayersoee: do you have dosfstools14:26
shadeslayeryofel: ImportError: cannot import name MAXREPEAT14:26
shadeslayerhave you seen that before>14:27
soeeshadeslayer, my mistake .. i was trying this on my VPS o.O wrong terminal tab14:27
soeeanyway: mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb: Device or resource busy14:27
shadeslayerI suspect that's drom some weird EC2 stuff14:27
shadeslayersoee: you need to unmount it first14:28
shadeslayersoee: and you should probably add 1/2/something after sdb14:28
soeeshadeslayer, but if i unmount it, it wont be seen ?14:28
shadeslayerit will be14:28
shadeslayersudo eject /dev/sdb14:29
shadeslayerthen run mkfs on the partition14:29
soeesoee@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkfs.vfat -I /dev/sdb14:29
soeemkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)14:29
soee/dev/sdb: No medium found14:29
shadeslayerdid you physically remove the drive?14:30
shadeslayeror well, just remove it and insert it again, but don't mount it14:30
yofelshadeslayer: not really14:30
yofelWARNING: /home/auto-upgrade-tester/auto-upgrade-testing/share/scripts/kubuntu_lxc_fixes not found14:30
shadeslayeryofel: I recommend testing using the fake backend first :P14:30
shadeslayeryofel: any recommendations on what NIC/IDE I should use on my awesome VPS?14:34
yofelvirtio (experimental)14:34
yofelworks prefectly fine for me14:34
shadeslayereven the NIC?14:34
yofelthat dosn't matter much, but according to the wiki the realtek one is limited to 100Mbit14:35
yofelor whatever the default is14:35
yofelshadeslayer: one issue I had during install was that IPv4 DHCP failed, so you need to add the public IP and some DNS by hand in d-i14:36
shadeslayergood thing you're here14:36
shadeslayerbah, I have to *install* the OS? :(14:36
apachelogger_vHanda: Nepomuk2::ServiceManager::runningServices why does that function use a non-const-iterator?14:37
yofelsure, KVM comes with *nothing*. d-i is fast14:37
shadeslayerso ... do I use VNC?14:37
yofelfor the initial setup you'll have to use VNC, yeah14:37
shadeslayerno java :|14:37
shadeslayerpulls in libgnome2-bin14:39
shadeslayerew ew ew14:40
shadeslayeryofel: I don't need no java14:43
shadeslayervncviewer ftw14:43
shadeslayervncviewer ftw14:43
yofelthe PostBootstrapScript calling code in the LXC backend is junk14:48
shadeslayeryofel: d-i says I have 2 ethernet interfaces14:51
yofelyeah, take the first one14:51
yofelI'm not sure what eth1 is for, maybe the internal one14:51
shadeslayerDHCP will fail right?14:52
shadeslayeryofel: netmask is whatever d-i fills in?14:55
yofelgateway is X.X.X.114:56
yofelfor DNS use anything (like
yofelafter that it  should just work14:57
shadeslayeractually, frantech has it's own DNS 14:57
* yofel gone for a bit, shopping for dinner14:57
yofelah, good to know, didn't find that last time14:57
shadeslayerI have the purple screen of death xD15:00
yofelok, gone for real now, bbiab15:01
smartboyhwWow Quantal KDE is clean now:)15:03
smartboyhws/KDE/KDE SC 4.10.2 backporting status page/15:05
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Wow Quantal KDE SC 4.10.2 backporting status page is clean now:)"15:05
smartboyhwSomeone move it to backports PPA:P15:05
soeethis is strange15:06
smartboyhwsoee, what is strange?15:06
soeei have 8 GB flash drive but if i try to copy file ~ 6BG it will copy exactly 4GB and stops with message cant write to ...15:07
soeebut then i can opy other files there15:07
soeefat32 is limited to 4GB ?15:07
smartboyhwsoee, weirdo15:07
soeeit is fat32: /dev/sdb1            8064    15116735     7554336    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)15:08
BluesKajfat32 is 4g max , yes15:09
soeeah and yes it is fat32 problem, it may have max 4gb file15:09
soeeok do you know if TV will handle usb stick with ntfs ?15:09
BluesKajsoee:  it should15:10
soeeshadeslayer, can i format flash drive to ntfs using your magic commands ?15:10
apachelogger_FWIW, vfat doesn't have the size limit and it is entirely possible that the TV in fact supports it too15:11
apachelogger_ntfs is the better choice in general though15:12
apachelogger_fat is made to loose data don't you know ;)15:12
smartboyhwRiddell, I think the Quantal KDE SC 4.10.2 can be pulled to Backports PPA..15:12
soeeshadeslayer, for ntfs do i need any external packages ? now if i type mkfs.ntfs it tells me that comment not found15:18
soeealso when using partitionmanager 15:19
soeethere is no option to choose ntfs ?15:20
shadeslayerntfs-3g is your friend15:20
soeeyes it is installed but partitionmanager do not support ntfs for me15:25
soeehad to use gparted :<15:26
BluesKajsoee, yeah ntfs isn't available in partition manager , suggest you burn a gparted live cd and keep it around for partioning ...had one for yrs and it's very handy 15:29
BluesKajdunno why there's no ntfs format option in partition manager , makes no sense15:31
soeetrue and app page stats it supports15:31
Riddellsmartboyhw: you tested it?15:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: no not prepared anything, what do you think we should bring up?15:35
smartboyhwRiddell, get the testers to test:P15:35
smartboyhwRiddell, and prepare what?15:35
smartboyhw!testers | please help test the 12.10 packages in ninjas PPA all built15:35
ubottuplease help test the 12.10 packages in ninjas PPA all built: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information.15:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: for the CC meeting15:37
BluesKajsmartboyhw, , not using 12.10 anymore 15:37
smartboyhwRiddell, good question15:38
smartboyhwI will be attending it on mobile15:38
smartboyhwAnd because I want to ask how many Regional membership board nominations 'ave they received (LOL)15:38
smartboyhwRiddell, talk about how we are faring with Blue Systems and finding contributors?15:39
smartboyhwDunno who actually put Kubuntu in there:P15:39
Riddellthey did, they want meetings every 6 months or so which I think is a great idea15:40
smartboyhwRiddell, :)15:40
smartboyhwGot cha sleep, secretly attend in mobile:P15:41
smartboyhwIn mobile15:43
RiddellJontheEchidna: why would kde-runtime build-dep on qapt?16:10
JontheEchidnaRiddell: you added it when you made kubuntu_langpack_install.diff :P16:11
RiddellJontheEchidna: oh yes, so I did :)16:11
apachelogger_kde bug 29151916:12
ubottuKDE bug 291519 in nepomukserver "nepomukserver does not quit on logout" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29151916:12
smartboyhwThat's a fixed.bug so?16:12
apachelogger_so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nepomuk-core/+bugs16:13
smartboyhwRiddell: Try to get as many Kubuntu Council members as you can for CC meeting16:13
RiddellDarkwing, apachelogger_, JontheEchidna, jussi, ScottK: meeting with community council in 45 mins in #ubuntu-meeting, what shall we talk about?16:14
apachelogger_not sure there is anything to talk about? :P16:15
* smartboyhw will be attending as a Kubuntu member16:15
Riddellapachelogger_: all harmonious in the ubuntu community?16:16
smartboyhwapachelogger_ that is what I thought;)16:16
smartboyhwRiddell can't be16:16
smartboyhwMaybe the CC wants to talk about how the new release arrangement affects.Kubuntu?16:16
apachelogger_there is a history of shitty nepomuk exists16:17
apachelogger_nepomuk doesn't use strigi anymore does it?16:19
Riddellsmartboyhw: I'd like to talk about why they're taking money claiming it's for "better support of kubuntu" and not putting it towards better support of kubuntu16:19
* apachelogger_ did not even want to look into nepomuk :'(16:21
BluesKajnepomuk and akonadi/kmail and kontact can be totally left out as default installs for kubuntu anytime and I won't miss them 16:22
apachelogger_just as I thought16:24
* BluesKaj waits , patiently16:25
smartboyhwapachelogger_ stop the weird noise...16:25
apachelogger_and here I thought I got rid of smartboyhw :(16:25
apachelogger_nepomukserver has messed up stateness16:25
ScottKRiddell: It would have been nice for them to have mentioned it to us recently rather than just assume we read their wiki page (unless there was some communication I missed).16:26
smartboyhwapachelogger_ you can't get rid of me;P16:26
apachelogger_the server object is a child of qapp but also used in signalhandlers for hup/int/quit/term16:26
apachelogger_now if you have process exist qapp cleans up rubbish such as its children16:27
apachelogger_if then a signal interrupts it starts quitting while it was already quitting16:27
apachelogger_so it starts working on a half destructed object tree, which explains the endless amount of crash variants all originating in the sighandler16:28
RiddellScottK: I think they sent me the date after the last meeting 6 months ago16:29
ScottKThat's a long time to remember.16:29
ScottKI reminder a week or so in advance might be nice.16:29
RiddellI know, good thing we have smartboyhw to remind us :)16:30
ScottKjussi was around reminding yesterday too.16:31
yofelshadeslayer: ok, so the upgrade itself worked, but 2 tests failed (X and search for *.dpkg-dist) which is caused by my modifications to fix the upgrade16:36
yofelshadeslayer: so I guess we can use this as long as we modify the tests16:36
shadeslayerI guess yeah :)16:36
shadeslayeryofel: so, question, how does one expose a service inside an lxc to the public internets?16:37
yofelshadeslayer: NAT16:38
yofelyou'll have to add some routing redirects in iptables16:38
shadeslayerand is that the default behaviour?16:39
smartboyhw9 minutes to CC - KC meeting:)16:51
smartboyhwGuys, Community Council meeting with Kubuntu now!17:00
=== smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw
vHandaapachelogger_: BluesKaj: did something happen to piss you guys off?17:21
apachelogger_nepomuk :P17:21
apachelogger_see what I wrote17:21
vHandawell, that was 4 years ago!17:21
apachelogger_essentially nepomukserver needs to not try to quit when the signalhandler is called after exit17:22
Mamarokhm, Riddell, did you remove yourself off the kubuntu-users ML or was this a bounce action?17:22
apachelogger_supposedly unsettings s_server after .exec(); ought to be enough to make that happen17:22
RiddellMamarok: I've not done anything, did I get kicked off by the bouncer?17:23
apachelogger_but I am not too much into posix so I would not bet on that17:23
MamarokRiddell: apparently, yes, your jriddell.org address17:23
BluesKajvHanda, piss me off , like what ?17:23
vHandaBluesKaj: nevermind.17:24
vHandaapachelogger_: fixed with 4.1117:24
apachelogger_vHanda: cool17:25
vHandaapachelogger_: is it causing a crash?17:25
apachelogger_non-realistic ones17:25
vHandawith 4.11 I just call QCoreApplication::quit when the signal handler is called17:25
vHandaand that cleans up everything17:25
apachelogger_we are only getting reports because we ahve a fallback backtrace collector that acts up when someone crashes on logout17:25
vHandacould you point me to the crash reports please?17:26
apachelogger_vHanda: bug 116363217:26
ubottubug 1163632 in nepomuk-core (Ubuntu) "nepomukserver crashed with SIGSEGV in close()" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116363217:26
apachelogger_and duplicates17:26
apachelogger_in almost all cases the regular exit_handlers get run (i.e. qapp cleans up children) and then a signal hits and works on a partially destructed object tree17:27
vHandaoh, it's the server, I thought you meant one of the processes17:27
vHandathis hasn't been fixed17:27
vHandaapachelogger_: it's alright, the fix is quite simple and can be done for 4.10.317:28
apachelogger_yay \o/17:28
* apachelogger_ returns to look at kmix code :S17:29
vHandado you have any idea if I can check for similar backtraces of bugs.kde.org?17:29
apachelogger_vHanda: do an advanced search for QHashData::detach_helper217:30
vHandawill do. thanks17:31
DarkwingAnyone have an idea what happened? I upgraded from the LTS to 12.10... http://paste.kde.org/716054/17:31
apachelogger_though I think all reports on your end should be from nepomukservicestub which had a similar symptom17:31
RiddellI'm out for a few hours, if beta 2 gets released it should be all ready, just needs a notice on the website17:40
=== apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger
yofelDarkwing: EOFError: EOF read where not expected -> usually means some file got truncated. Try running debsums -S to verify that the packages are intact18:19
soeelast weekend time changed here in Poland, now i want to change my system time but if i change hout it is again old value after system reboot :/19:24
BluesKajsoee, sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata19:27
soeeBluesKaj, worket but i had to change clock font to get new value oO19:30
BluesKajsoee, weird :)19:31
soeethunderbird ->19:51
soeeThe application had a problem and crashed.19:51
soeeUnfortunately, the crash reporter is unable to submit a report for this crash.19:51
soeeDetails: The application did not identify itself.19:51
soeewtf, system monitor ->19:52
soeePlik /home/soee/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/ProcessTable.sgrd zawiera niepoprawny format XML.19:52
soeeit states this file contains incorrect XML format19:53
yofelshadeslayer: \o/ http://kyofel2.dyndns.org/upgrade.old/20:35
shadeslayerhurrah :D20:36
yofelnow let me get that into the branch20:36
shadeslayeryofel: btw is it just me or is owncloud super slow20:37
shadeslayeropening the admin interface takes *forever*20:37
yofeldunno, haven't used it much20:38
shadeslayerwell, https://glaedr.dyndns.org/owncloud/ is what I have now :)20:38
shadeslayerjust need to figure out a way to get mysql under control20:39
shadeslayerfwiw that's running in a lxc :P20:39
yofelsounds overengeneered, but if you need that... ^^20:41
shadeslayerwell, I don't want to add stuff to the host OS20:41
shadeslayerwant it to be as clean as possibel20:41
yofel%(AutoUpgradeTesterSharedDir) is a mess20:57
shadeslayerreally past my bed time, night21:02
Riddellanyone tested precise and quantal 4.10.2?21:31
yofelat least one person tested 4.10.2 I believe21:45
yofeldid you get kde-workspace-randr worked out?21:46
yofelhm... nobody updated akonadi?21:46
Riddelloh good points21:47
RiddellI'll get onto them21:47
soeeany idea whats going on: Plik /home/soee/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/ProcessTable.sgrd zawiera niepoprawny format XML.22:05
soeeincorrect XML format ?22:05
soeeand netbeans just stopped working after generating ~ 150 warning popup windows22:06
yofelcan you pastebin that file?22:06
yofelwell, I just had to fix invalid SQL in owncould 5.0.3 to get it working22:07
soeeyofel, ProcessTable.sgrd is empty22:08
yofelhm, you *could* say that empty is invalid... except that it shouldn't be empty22:08
soeehow can i list running processes so i can kill netbeans ?22:09
yofelps -e | grep netbeans22:09
yofelsoee: removing the file might make it work again? And please file a bug22:09
soeewhat shoudl this do ?22:09
soeeyofel, but i have no idea why this happen22:10
yofelps should show you what the netbeans process is, you can then 'kill <pid>' it22:10
yofelsoee: well, me neither :S22:10
soeeit returns nothing22:10
yofelbut it shouldn't be completely failing either22:10
yofeloh... then it's java maybe22:10
soeeyes that helped22:11
soeeok removing those files helped22:12
soeenew one was created and i can run system monitor naw22:12
Riddellwhat am I doing wrong? http://paste.kde.org/716294/23:10

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