[01:35] * Riddell fails kubuntu active image [01:38] and the arm image doesn't work :( [01:40] bug 1164239 [01:40] bug 1164239 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "does not start on kubuntu 13.04 beta 2 arm image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164239 [01:40] * Riddell sleeps [02:22] Lubuntu had trouble with their ac100 image. Dunno if it's related. === ovidiu-florin_ is now known as ovidiu-florin [10:05] Hello!!!! [10:06] Riddell, so the arm + active aren't going in? [10:08] smartboyhw: no I guess not :( [10:08] Riddell, erm:( [10:08] arm doesn't load up ubiquity at all and active crashes [10:08] :( [10:13] 0.o [10:15] shadeslayer, yeah:( [10:21] Riddell, is nootka fixed? [10:21] I mean for powerpc [10:24] dunno I've not looked at it [10:24] Riddell, .... [10:25] Might be good to fix it today [10:25] how's this? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RaringRingtail/Beta2/Kubuntu [10:25] Riddell, looking:P [10:26] http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_quantal.html too needs fixed [10:26] Riddell, +1 [10:26] Riddell, yeah a hell lot of errors [10:27] I'm restarting cantor build because I can't find log [10:27] And i386 builds good [10:27] Riddell: yeah looks fine [10:29] I am restarting kalgebra Quantal amd64 [10:29] The dependencies should be Ok now [10:31] khangman restart [10:32] Basically after restarting everything should be good for Quantal [10:33] I wonder why pykde didn't get uploaded [10:38] Riddell, good question hmm [10:40] uploaded, hopefully that'll tell us if the compile failure in raring is an issue in pykde or in qt [10:40] Riddell, :) [10:42] * Riddell turns attention to http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_precise.html [10:43] hmm, more issues there [10:43] Riddell, eee:( [10:49] * shadeslayer looks [10:49] how is it that kalzium is waiting on boost 0.o [10:50] shadeslayer: I think boost is being rebuilt [10:50] but you might want to check that [10:50] cos there's no libboost-python1.49-dev in precise? [10:51] Riddell: yes, but shouldn't the backport script have taken care of that [10:51] nothing in the backports script about it [10:51] oh there is [10:52] the precise one gets applied to all and should handle it [10:52] Script fail? [10:52] hum [10:53] Riddell, you guys got good to go builds, we don't:( [10:53] we = Ubuntu Studio [10:54] Riddell, how about upgrade testcases? [11:07] smartboyhw: mm I've not done that one [11:07] Riddell, yep [11:08] !testers | please help test the upgrades and report the results in the ISO QA Tracker [11:08] please help test the upgrades and report the results in the ISO QA Tracker: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. [11:08] :P [11:13] yofel, i tested 4.10.2 on may laptop yesterday, all was fine [11:13] soee: great thanks [11:14] shadeslayer, smartboyhw: oh I see what I did wrong with the backport script to not get the hooks applied [11:14] Riddell, should i test some ISO on VM ? [11:14] Riddell, :) [11:14] soee, no need [11:14] ok [11:14] The builds are pretty much ready [11:14] Except the arm + active [11:14] soee: yes that would be very good if you could [11:15] smartboyhw: there's a need, I don't trust myself as the only tester [11:15] Riddell: hmm? [11:15] you can probably re upload you know :P [11:15] shadeslayer: I will [11:15] 12.04.3 or whatever :D [11:15] Riddell: what went wrong? [11:15] Riddell, oh OK [11:15] I am testing the Studio ones myself here though [11:16] shadeslayer: calling the script with the wrong argument [11:16] heh [11:16] Riddell, where can i find download links ? [11:16] smartboyhw: then you're very trusting on yourself :) [11:17] soee: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20130403/ [11:17] Riddell, I have another tester this time [11:17] And we have our project lead [11:18] Riddell, I need to remind you that Ubuntu Studio is ALWAYS not enough of testers [11:22] smartboyhw: We don't have enough testers here as well [11:22] :P [11:23] Quintasan, we are much short of it [11:23] yofel: u[pgrade qa borked [11:24] Riddell: I think I installed Beta 2 on my PC yesterday, I'll use that as a reference [11:28] yofel: ping [11:29] ehh [11:29] * Quintasan looks at the plasma active [11:30] wait [11:31] Quintasan, oh? [11:32] * Quintasan wonders where the hell are i386 images for active [11:33] nvm [11:33] got it [11:33] Quintasan: tell me it's not just me it crashes for [11:33] Riddell: I'll try [11:34] I will look into it if it actually does crash here [11:34] will try in vbox and then liveusb [11:38] the latest muon release is marked as stable ? [11:38] soee: ... we usually provide stable versions of package managers [11:39] soee: are you on raring? [11:39] Quintasan, yes [11:39] !info muon raring [11:39] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 197 kB, installed size 1377 kB [11:40] soee: looks like 2.0 is in raring, that should be stable unless JontheEchidna says otherwise [11:40] Quintasan, ok thank you [11:43] I successfully upgraded packages from ninjas-ppa on quantal [11:43] no conflicts or other issues [11:44] will reboot the machine in few moments to see how the full stack works now [11:44] anything particular I should keep an eye on? [11:49] Tm_T: Just do what you usually do [11:49] It's better imo than doing things on purpose [11:50] ofcourse [11:50] although what I usually do is basicly launch terminals, browsers, and then sit on those two weeks [11:51] oh, Kontact ofcourse too [11:51] Tm_T: You might want to test Muon :P [11:51] oh, that actually will do a lot of testing [11:51] Quintasan: is Muon like Wajig but with GUI? (; [11:51] * Tm_T hides [11:51] JontheEchidna: Kill him ^ [11:58] Riddell: Well, Plasma Workspace died two times here and suddenly started [12:03] * Quintasan does liveusb [12:05] What happened!? [12:05] Riddell: you do not backport pykde [12:05] Riddell: too many python3.3 specific changes in raring [12:05] shadeslayer: pong? [12:06] Quintasan: which upgrade qa? [12:07] yofel: does auto-upgrade-tester + lxc work ? and more importantly, does it work on the buyvm storage server? [12:08] shadeslayer: works more or less, but with 256M of memory it looks bad [12:08] mostly because during the one test I did on the storage server it launched lightdm, which used ~100M of memory for some reason [12:08] didn't have time to debug it [12:11] lol [12:11] yofel: define looks bad? [12:11] does it not complete? [12:12] yofel: webpage [12:12] Riddell: Moderately bad news [12:12] Riddell: LiveUSB works on my laptop [12:12] It boots up just fine, no crashes [12:12] but I can't test it since I don't have a touch screen and dunno how to enable mouse there :X [12:13] In vbox it does crash but the workspace dies [12:13] Quintasan, hmm Riddell has some strange board then [12:14] smartboyhw: How about you test it before assuming something? [12:14] Quintasan, no. Still testing Ubuntu Studio (installing to get the post-installation things done, and I still need to get on with the upgrades) [12:14] Ubuntu Studio is my 1st priority [12:15] Followed by Kubuntu of course;) [12:15] Then I'd appreciate if you didn't jump to conslusion that early [12:15] It might be my board that's strange because it works here whereas it should not [12:15] Quintasan, that is a pre-conclusion:P [12:16] lol [12:16] Don't assume stuff without evidence then [12:16] shadeslayer: right, fails at some point [12:16] shadeslayer: We need more testing for Active [12:16] Quintasan: that points to shadeslayer's server [12:16] shadeslayer: fix qa webpage as well [12:16] mmmm [12:16] okay [12:16] I'll renable ec2 stuff then [12:16] and that's broken till we have a successful upgrade path [12:17] yeah, best do that, at least until raring is ou [12:17] *out [12:18] shadeslayer: [12:18] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-keyring_3.6.3-0ubuntu2_i386.deb (--unpack):^M [12:18] unable to make backup link of `./usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon' before installing new version: Cannot allocate memory^M [12:19] lets try again [12:19] *sigh* [12:19] 15124 root 20 0 104m 102m 5788 S 0.0 42.7 0:00.09 lightdm [12:20] yofel: ah hah [12:20] Quintasan: it crashes but then works? [12:20] Riddell: In VBox it crashed twice and the started up [12:20] when will the next kernel update planned fot precise? [12:21] Quintasan, and the *what* started up? [12:21] for* [12:21] ovidiu-florin, ask in #ubuntu-kernel please:) [12:21] ok [12:21] thank you [12:21] We aren't the ones maintaining the -generic kernel [12:21] Riddell: using LiveUSB it started with no problems but I could not do anything because I couldn't get a cursor :P [12:22] Quintasan: yeah the cursor now doesn't show which is a bit annoying [12:22] Riddell, Quintasan +1 [12:23] mmkay [12:23] hmm [12:23] Riddell, you should propose to the Kubuntu Council of buying a Intel Atom powered tablet:P [12:23] yofel: so something starts lightdm which takes a batshit amount of resident memory? [12:24] smartboyhw: intel tablets are crap [12:24] shadeslayer: well, it boots a normally installed system (with lightdm) and runs upgrade, so that kinda makes sense [12:24] set lightdm to manual now [12:24] aha [12:24] manual? [12:24] shadeslayer, well at least we can actually test... [12:24] shadeslayer: echo manual > /etc/init/lightdm.override [12:25] smartboyhw: We can buy tablets but you need a person which would work on that most of the time where it's not viable at this moment [12:25] Just a suggestion:P [12:26] we still need to get packaging sorted out to make sure it complies with standards and what upstream wants [12:26] yofel: or well ... just write a script that watches for the lightdm process and does stops it in the lxc? [12:27] shadeslayer: why stop it when I can trivially prevent it from starting... [12:27] heh [12:27] * shadeslayer rages at KWallet [12:27] 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.04~ppa2 uploaded to ninjas [12:28] urgh [12:28] shadeslayer: How is ktp 0.6? [12:29] Quintasan: waiting for desktop-applets to finish building https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring [12:29] shadeslayer: Is that the last thing? [12:29] indeed [12:29] wait [12:29] why are you building it there? [12:29] https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/ppa/+packages [12:29] that's for raring [12:30] and the telepathy-kde ppa's are for final release [12:30] Put everydamn stable release there [12:30] 0.6 is stable derp [12:30] stable == not daily in case of ktp [12:30] :P [12:30] you want me to upload without QA? :D [12:31] Virtuoso is eating all CPU here [12:31] it does that from time to time [12:31] likewise [12:31] should be nice'd [12:31] yofel: the problem is, it haven't done it this way for years [12:32] yes I know it eats some cpu in time to time, but this much this long hasn't been normal for some time anymore [12:32] hm, maybe vHanda might know what it would be doing [12:32] I have forgotten how to debug this as it has been working so nicely (: [12:33] other than that, all seems to work just fine here [12:33] yofel, remide ne one more time the author of homerun pls ? [12:33] agateau: [12:33] soee: that would be me [12:34] agateau has arrived! [12:34] agateau, is it possible to to add context menu to trash icon that contain "Empty trash" action? [12:34] atm trash icon is located in favourite places [12:34] soee: should be doable yes [12:34] soee: file a bug on bugs.kde.org so that I do not forget it [12:34] agateau, ok thank you [12:36] krdc 4:4.8.55-0ubuntu1~ppa4 [12:36] krfb 4:4.8.55-0ubuntu1~ppa3 [12:36] shadeslayer: ^ we need those in PPA? [12:36] nah [12:36] nuke em [12:37] PURGING WITH FIRE [12:37] agateau, what component should i set ? [12:37] soee: "sources" [12:37] shadeslayer: >0.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1~ppa1 [12:38] LOL [12:38] you wat m8? [12:38] hm? [12:38] what's that? [12:38] we put some ppa in your ppa so you can ppa while you ppa [12:38] agateau++ [12:38] Hiyas all [12:38] shadeslayer: ktp-send-file 0.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1~precise1~ppa1 [12:39] ah [12:39] the name [12:39] I'd purge the whole repo actually shadeslayer [12:39] why [12:39] we need to get things there straight [12:39] the reason it's probably like that is because I ran the backportpackage script on the PPA packages [12:39] why do we have logger 0.5.2 for 12.04 and 0.5.3 for 12.10? [12:39] no big deal, we can fix with the 0.6 upload [12:39] I'm killing it with fire [12:39] all of it [12:39] eh [12:39] okay [12:40] well [12:40] don't delete the glib packages [12:40] mmkay [12:40] just only delete the ktp packages plz [12:41] shadeslayer: can I kill qt-gstreamer as well? [12:41] Quintasan, stay calm:) [12:41] nope [12:41] it's required [12:42] shadeslayer: qt-gstreamer and telepathty-glib are left [12:42] cool [12:42] the rest was nuked [12:42] Now, we can't upload 0.6 to raring, can we? [12:42] sure we can [12:43] !info kde-telepathy-contact-list [12:43] kde-telepathy-contact-list (source: ktp-contact-list): Telepathy contact list for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 151 kB, installed size 955 kB [12:43] !info kde-telepathy-contact-list raring [12:43] kde-telepathy-contact-list (source: ktp-contact-list): Telepathy contact list for the KDE Plasma Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.80-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 173 kB, installed size 1090 kB [12:43] How exactly do you think we can do it? [12:43] agateau, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317825 [12:43] KDE bug 317825 in sources "Context menu with 'Empty trash' link for trash icon" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [12:43] Quintasan: we got a FFe for it? [12:43] and 0.6 will be a bug fix only upload? [12:43] nope.avi [12:43] we already got ffe? [12:43] yeah [12:43] wow [12:44] shadeslayer actually gets things done [12:44] :P [12:44] because I'm awesome :P [12:44] Will you upload that or you want me to do that? [12:44] I'll upload it later tonight [12:44] actually [12:44] I'll do the backporting then [12:45] will probably upload tomorrow [12:45] desktop-applets will build in 8 hours :( [12:45] Why? [12:45] ffs [12:45] postponed till tomorrow then [12:46] Virtuoso is still eating the cpu [12:47] ok, have to go home, will do something about that when I can [12:48] uff crap [12:48] "display settings" is only gamma settings now [12:48] there's no way configuring monitor setup anymore? [12:48] shadeslayer: go skip build queue if you need it. Ninjas will eat up build time too, so if you keep it low you'll have it built in 14h or so [12:52] Tm_T: kscreen didn't get installed for you? [12:53] no it didn't, new package that isn't dependency? [12:53] it's recommended by kubuntu-desktop [12:53] ...recommended but not dependency? [12:54] yofel: how does that work? [12:54] you should be able to remove it and replace it with kde-workspace-randr [12:54] so not a hard dependency [12:54] I see [12:55] it *should* be installed on upgrades though [12:55] it wasn't, neither kde-workspace-randr [12:55] so dependency that has OR with those two? [12:55] no idea how to do that with seeds [12:55] Riddell: ^ ? [12:56] Riddell: did you update the meta package for the backports yet btw.? (same issue) [12:56] yofel: any ideas why running sudo python bin/auto-upgrade-tester -b UpgradeTestBackendEC2 share/profiles/kubuntu share/profiles/kubuntu-backports/ only tests the kubuntu profile? [12:57] http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ [12:57] yofel: nope, needs to depend on kde-workspace-randr ? [12:57] Riddell: yes [12:58] shadeslayer: because of ProfileName=kubuntu [12:58] huh? [12:58] share/profiles/kubuntu-backports/DistUpgrade.cfg -> ProfileName=kubuntu [12:58] should be kubuntu-backports [12:58] oh lol [12:59] needs fixing [13:01] uhm [13:02] Riddell: did you kill my instance? [13:05] shadeslayer: oh I killed everything, are you using it? [13:05] shadeslayer: stopped killing now [13:05] yeah :D [13:06] yofel: I don't think it worked [13:09] unless it appends the output to the current html page [13:12] my test run is still running for now, which is good [13:12] :D [13:13] "About 3 hours 24 minutes remaining" maybe running an upgrade test on a netbook wasn't such a good idea [13:16] upgrade also running on ec2 [13:16] so not to worry [13:17] * Riddell fires up kde-l10n [13:19] Quintasan: btw uploading ktp tonight won't matter [13:19] Quintasan: we're in beta freeze [13:19] What is Freeze? [13:19] ? [13:20] shadeslayer: you can upload anyway [13:20] true [13:20] but it won't really matter :P [13:21] yeah ^^ [13:21] Riddell, eh that isn't really a great idea;P [13:22] smartboyhw: l10n isn't? [13:23] Riddell, the upgrade test:P [13:23] *headdesk* [13:23] ah well down to 1 hour 9 minutes now :) [13:24] forgot to apply the grub-pc fix in LXC... [13:24] * yofel tries again [13:24] Riddell, :) [13:25] yofel: there's a fix for that? [13:25] shadeslayer: sure, copy script from raring into container before upgrade [13:25] hah [13:27] brrrrr, you can only have one PostBootstrapScript [13:28] yofel: what's grub-pc and LXC? [13:28] yeah :| [13:28] Riddell: instead of using EC2 to test upgrades we can use LXC ( Linux Containers ) [13:29] cost effective if you can find a powerful enough server [13:30] Riddell: LXC is kinda chroots being used as VM's, and we had an issue that zz-update-grub (kernel postinst hook) fails during upgrade becase it has no rootfs device in LXC (fixed in raring) [13:39] 13.10? 0.o [13:40] ah, similar to vserver we use on sladen's servers [13:40] 0.o We don't even know the name for 13.10 yet [13:40] Riddell: sladen's server? [13:42] shadeslayer: the ones I use for e-mail and whatnot, starsky.19inch.net [13:42] ah [13:43] smartboyhw: launchpad has targets for 3 releases in the feature too (s-series, t-series, u-series) [13:43] yofel, I know [13:43] OK guys let us play a name-guessing game (LOL) [13:43] nah, we can do that in 2 weeks [13:44] ... [13:44] an well, might as well do it now ^^ [13:45] I'll go with skimpy skunk [13:45] sexy swan [13:45] sexy ScottK [13:46] * ScottK looks up. [13:46] smartboy scallywag [13:48] !?!?!?!?!?! [13:48] * smartboyhw tores Riddell apart [13:48] 13.10: the saucy shadeslayer [13:48] scallyway shadeslayer :P [13:48] soda soee :P [13:49] Quintasan: on trello -> options-settings-last option [13:49] also make more people admin :P [13:49] what? [13:49] soee, your IRC nick will be included in the next S release codename:P [13:50] * genii-around sips and ponders if sasquatch could be considered an animal name [13:50] ah yes i know it already, they told me ill be the next release face [13:50] superb shadeslayer [13:51] shadeslayer, boo;P [13:51] slothful shadeslayer [13:51] smarter smartboyhw (using two actual IRC nicks here) [13:51] lol [13:52] * apachelogger_ has 300 bug notifications in his inbox -.- [13:53] apachelogger_, uh oh. Mark them all as read:P [13:53] no? [13:53] ^ [13:53] that's what I'd do :D [13:53] wat [13:53] what is S codename [13:53] :P [13:54] as I said, slothful shadeslayer ^^ [13:54] bug 1163632 [13:54] :( [13:54] bug 1163632 in nepomuk-core (Ubuntu) "nepomukserver crashed with SIGSEGV in close()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163632 [13:55] k [13:55] :P [13:56]