| MFSOT | Hi all, intermediate linux user here, have my home boxes running linux mint and just switched from win2k8 to ubuntu server with a webmin gui, I have an external hdd on my server that I would like to be able to access/share/write to and it's proving to be difficult via the webmin, I've read I should SSH into the server, this that and the other thing, just looking for opinions and some help | 00:20 |
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| ScottK | http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html is not a bad place to start. | 00:27 |
| MFSOT | thanks bud | 00:27 |
| MFSOT | took a lot of effort to be a dick | 00:28 |
| qman__ | MFSOT, firstly, that was a perfectly valid response, and secondly | 00:31 |
| qman__ | !webmin | 00:31 |
| ubottu | webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. | 00:31 |
| qman__ | all of that said, you need to get a bit more specific in what it is you want to accomplish | 00:32 |
| histo | Why would outlook completely fail at sending mail from my server when other clients work fine | 00:32 |
| histo | ughhh | 00:32 |
| histo | I'd assume it has to do with starttls or something goofy. Anyone experience this? | 00:33 |
| histo | Running postfix/dovecot setup with virtual users controleld by text files | 00:33 |
| qman__ | because microsoft follows standards about as well as square pegs fit in round holes | 00:33 |
| qman__ | outlook, and only outlook, requires a non-standard auth line to work on your server | 00:33 |
| histo | qman__: what is the non-standard line and where in the config do I put it? | 00:34 |
| qman__ | everybody else uses "AUTH PLAIN", but outlook requires "AUTH=PLAIN" to be accepted | 00:34 |
| qman__ | there's a bit in the default config file regarding this | 00:34 |
| qman__ | you need to make sure it's enabled | 00:35 |
| histo | qman__: in postfix's config? | 00:35 |
| qman__ | yes | 00:36 |
| qman__ | this may be helpful: http://holdenweb.blogspot.com/2008/04/outlook-is-driving-me-nuts.html | 00:36 |
| histo | qman__: I don't see it anywhere | 00:36 |
| histo | k will read | 00:36 |
| histo | i've added both those changes | 00:37 |
| histo | already | 00:37 |
| histo | qman__: With no luck | 00:37 |
| MFSOT | qman__ I appreciate your response as at least you asked for something and didn't point me to a useless page to try to make me feel stupid, there's too much of that shit on irc - I know webmin isn't supported any longer but I've read that it works just fine and to be honest it's a lot cleaner and easier to use than the other gui's I've been messing around with. I ultimately want to be able to share files on my home network and pipe | 00:37 |
| MFSOT | in via my vpn that I have set up and browse and use my home file system, I also want to either have an FTP site or SSL site, a way to share larger files with friends basically | 00:37 |
| qman__ | "works just fine" is anecdotal, I've seen it break plenty of stuff, and if you come here with broken stuff and webmin, we really can't help | 00:38 |
| bobbyz | histo: broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes | 00:38 |
| qman__ | but if you want some basic instructions, try the server guide | 00:38 |
| MFSOT | I'm not opposed to giving webmin the axe, this is a setup I just started today, I was looking at using ISPConfig, or just putting an gui on until I got things where I wanted them | 00:39 |
| histo | bobbyz: yes I have that set | 00:39 |
| ScottK | MFSOT: If you think that page is useless, go back and reconsider. No one here is under any obligation to help you at all. Personally, I'm done with the prospect. | 00:39 |
| histo | bobbyz: also have plan login cram-md5 in my dovecot.conf as well | 00:39 |
| histo | I noticed though when I telnet to my server port 25 it doesnt' display auth anything | 00:40 |
| MFSOT | well you haven't helped in anyway, considering you never started, glad you're done | 00:40 |
| bobbyz | histo: this might be a dumb question, but you issued a 'postfix reload' after you set that in /etc/postfix/main.cf right? | 00:40 |
| histo | bobbyz: It's been set that way the entire time i've been trying let me restart just to be sure | 00:40 |
| ScottK | Also look in /var/log/mail.log for information about what's going on. Both postfix and dovecot log there. | 00:40 |
| histo | bobbyz: qman__ still getting relay access denied from windows live clients | 00:42 |
| histo | ScottK: yeah i'm tailing the log but it just rejects it and says relay access denied | 00:43 |
| qman__ | histo, are the clients attempting to log in? you have to specifically tell them to do SMTP auth, they try anonymous by default | 00:43 |
| histo | Thunderbird works perfectly with my setup | 00:43 |
| qman__ | even if you have pop3/imap configured | 00:43 |
| histo | qman__: yes | 00:43 |
| histo | I'm testing on a windows 7 box with windows live mail. And it will not send friggen mail. | 00:44 |
| histo | Just 554 relay denied | 00:44 |
| histo | So it has to be something witht he AUTH | 00:44 |
| ScottK | Dunno if it's still the case, but for a long time Microsoft clients didn't support TLS properly and you had to use SMTPS on port 465. | 00:44 |
| qman__ | also, with many typical virtual user configs, the username is "user+domain.com" | 00:44 |
| ScottK | There's a commented out entry in master.cf for that service. | 00:44 |
| qman__ | rather than "user" or "user@domain.com" | 00:44 |
| qman__ | but that should show against any client | 00:45 |
| ScottK | IIRC the server guide has a decent description of setting up dovecot for SASL auth with postfix. | 00:45 |
| histo | ScottK: I've been following the server guide | 00:45 |
| ScottK | OK. | 00:46 |
| ScottK | If it works for non-MS clients, I'd try SMTPS on port 465 then. | 00:46 |
| histo | qman__: I know as I can configure thunderbird to login and send mail just fine. Windows live mail is the problem | 00:46 |
| qman__ | just thinking aloud, my go-to ideas have been exhausted | 00:46 |
| histo | ScottK: If I enable ssl it still errors denying the relay I haven't tried port 25 although I don't see how that matters | 00:48 |
| ScottK | port 465/SMTPS is a different technology than TLS, so it was worth a shot. | 00:49 |
| ScottK | pastebin the log entry for the entire transaction. | 00:49 |
| histo | ScottK: which the mail.log? | 00:49 |
| ScottK | yes | 00:49 |
| ScottK | Also pastebin the output of postconf -n. | 00:49 |
| bobbyz | histo: share your dovecot.conf too? | 00:52 |
| histo | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5675238/ is the mail.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/5675239/ is the postconf | 00:52 |
| histo | bobbyz: ScottK http://paste.ubuntu.com/5675244/ is my dovecot.conf | 00:54 |
| histo | This setup is from the wiki postfix virtual users and domains with clamav | 00:55 |
| histo | I believe the dovecot.conf has some obsolete settings from the wiki however there are only warnings in the dovecot logs | 00:55 |
| histo | I added the disable_plaintext_auth = no to the dovecot.conf to get outlook to login for pop and imap | 00:57 |
| ScottK | So there's no indication of SSL/TLS or SASL in that log snippet. | 00:58 |
| histo | ScottK: No that's the problem outlook isn't using either. Thunderbird does starttls and just works | 00:59 |
| histo | I don't have enough experience with these setups to know what needs to be enabled for outlook to just work. | 00:59 |
| ScottK | What if you enable SMTPS and set outlook to connect via port 465? | 00:59 |
| histo | I have pop working | 00:59 |
| histo | ScottK: How would one do that? | 00:59 |
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| histo | I'm kind of confused by the whole listener thing in the dovecot.conf so is postfix actually listening or dovecot??? I'd assume it's just for internal communicaiton between dovecot and postfix but I don't know why they would even need to communicate | 01:00 |
| ScottK | histo: Look in /etc/postfix/master.cf and you'll find a commented out entry that starts: smtps inet n - - - - smtpd | 01:01 |
| ScottK | Uncomment that and the succeeding lines then stop/start postfix. | 01:01 |
| ScottK | (not reload, for a new master.cf service to be recognized, you need to stop then start. | 01:01 |
| ScottK | Dovecot only talks to the outside world via pop3 and imap. Any mail sending/delivery between other mail servers is handled by postfix. So when postfix receives mail that is to be delivered locally, it has to give it to dovecot (thus communication required) | 01:03 |
| histo | ahh | 01:04 |
| histo | ScottK: what would the service imap and service pop lines in the dovecot.conf be for. I don't believe they are even needed | 01:04 |
| ScottK | I believe they aren't in the default setup if you have the right packages installed, but I mess with dovecot config rarely enough that I tend to go look things up to be sure. Don't quote me. | 01:05 |
| ScottK | One problem at a time though. | 01:06 |
| histo | It's still denying it | 01:06 |
| histo | New error though client host regjected | 01:06 |
| ScottK | Progress. Paste the log again | 01:07 |
| histo | Apr 3 21:07:45 bremecmail postfix/smtps/smtpd[7524]: connect from h230.171.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net[173.189.171.230] | 01:08 |
| histo | Apr 3 21:07:46 bremecmail postfix/smtps/smtpd[7524]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from h230.171.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net[173.189.171.230]: 554 5.7.1 <h230.171.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net[173.189.171.230]>: Client host rejected: Access denied; from=<admin@bremecgroup.com> to=<histoplasmosis@gmail.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<KimPC> | 01:08 |
| histo | Apr 3 21:07:46 bremecmail postfix/smtps/smtpd[7524]: disconnect from h230.171.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net[173.189.171.230] | 01:08 |
| histo | Only 3 lines in log there | 01:08 |
| histo | ScottK: Those are the new entries in the log. Same generic errors | 01:10 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 01:10 |
| ScottK | I thought you said there was a new one. | 01:10 |
| histo | ScottK: On the client side there is a new error | 01:10 |
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| ScottK | Oh. | 01:10 |
| ScottK | What's the exact error there? | 01:10 |
| histo | let me restart postfix to be sure | 01:10 |
| histo | ScottK: Server response 554 5.7.1 IPblah...: Client host rejected: Access denied | 01:11 |
| ScottK | Actually the error is different. | 01:11 |
| histo | Gawd I hate microsoft | 01:11 |
| ScottK | Before it said "Relay access denied" Now is says " Access denied" | 01:11 |
| histo | Yes and keep in mind thunderbid on my linux laptop works perfectly fine | 01:12 |
| ScottK | So that's an indication you've switched from refusal to relay unauthenticated mail to an authentication failure. | 01:12 |
| ScottK | I don't have any MS clients here to mess with, so I'm not sure exactly what to do next and I can't mess with it. | 01:13 |
| ScottK | You're making progress though. | 01:13 |
| histo | It's still a 554 error though. | 01:13 |
| histo | This can't be that random of a question getting MS clients to work with a linux mailserver. | 01:14 |
| qman__ | you're sure you have SMTP authentication set up on the client? from what I see it looks like it's not even trying | 01:14 |
| histo | qman__: I'm ticking my server requires authenticaiton in the windows live config | 01:14 |
| histo | and it's set to use the same settings as my incoming mail server | 01:15 |
| qman__ | they bury it, http://blog.arvixe.com/how-to-turn-on-smtp-authentication-on-windows-live-mail/ | 01:15 |
| qman__ | ok | 01:15 |
| qman__ | just checking, I've seen that problem derail lots of people | 01:16 |
| histo | qman__: yes I have those settings there. If I try port 465 and requires ssl I get that client host rejected. If I try port 25 without ssl I get the relay denied | 01:18 |
| ScottK | Does that user name and password work from thunderbird? | 01:18 |
| histo | in the mail.err log there is an error fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms | 01:19 |
| histo | ScottK: yes | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 01:19 |
| histo | ScottK: nvm that is an old error | 01:19 |
| ScottK | OK | 01:19 |
| histo | from hours ago when I was mucking around in configs | 01:19 |
| histo | It's fixed now | 01:19 |
| ScottK | Anything in mail.err should also be in mail.log, so that would have been weird. | 01:19 |
| histo | well the error is fixed but the problem persists from outlook | 01:19 |
| ScottK | What SASL mechanisms do you have enabled? | 01:20 |
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| histo | ScottK: dovecot | 01:21 |
| histo | ScottK: and the path is private/auth-client | 01:21 |
| ScottK | No, I mean like PLAIN, LOGIN, etc. | 01:21 |
| histo | ScottK: plain login cram-md5 | 01:21 |
| histo | in the dovecot.conf | 01:21 |
| ScottK | OK That should be fine since login is what MS clients like. | 01:21 |
| histo | ScottK: in the postfix main.cf I see smtpd_sals_security_options noplaintext is that potentially the issue? | 01:22 |
| ScottK | Yes | 01:22 |
| ScottK | Good point. Since you're using SSL/TLS you don't need that. | 01:22 |
| ScottK | LOGIN is a plain text mechansim. | 01:23 |
| qman__ | yeah | 01:23 |
| qman__ | I forget the names but the way it works is, you have to allow plaintext logins, but then there's another setting that says only allow plain over SSL/TLS | 01:23 |
| histo | jesus christ it works | 01:23 |
| histo | stupid outlook | 01:23 |
| histo | okay so now to enable pop3s imaps and disable the others | 01:24 |
| histo | That way everythign is ssl and outlook can be happy plaintexting passwords | 01:24 |
| ScottK | Good catch. | 01:24 |
| histo | ScottK: qman__ TY guys for helping me think through this | 01:24 |
| ScottK | You're welcome. | 01:24 |
| histo | Nother notch in my belt for reasons to never us M$ | 01:25 |
| qman__ | your linux client must have been using cram-md5 | 01:25 |
| qman__ | because that setting in particular is not outlook specific | 01:25 |
| histo | qman__: yea it was | 01:25 |
| histo | looking back at old linux client logs | 01:25 |
| histo | ScottK: I noticed in my master.cf smptd isn't enabled but bsmtp is that normal? | 01:26 |
| histo | nvm i'm seeing stuff now | 01:27 |
| ScottK | No | 01:27 |
| ScottK | OK | 01:27 |
| histo | Been at this awhile now i'm seeing things | 01:27 |
| histo | Now trying to enable imaps and pop3s | 01:30 |
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| histo | actually dont' care about those nvm | 01:31 |
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| hachre | I've just installed a fresh server and for some reason it is settings some of my vars like LC_ADDRESS to de_DE while the german language pack isnt even installed. I have LANG set to en_US.UTF-8 in /etc/default/locale but that doesn't seem enough.. What's missing here? | 03:25 |
| hachre | I also keep seeing this error message on many things apt does: "locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory", I'm not sure what it's referring to when it speaks of no such file or directly though since locale-gen works fine | 03:28 |
| sarnold | hachre: 'locale' will report the values of all the locale variables.. | 03:32 |
| sarnold | hachre: maybe grep -r de_DE /etc/ would be useful? | 03:33 |
| hachre | sarnold: locale reports en_US only for LANG and the rest is on de_DE... grep shows only the normal aliases in /etc/locale.aliases | 03:35 |
| sarnold | hachre: how about your ~/.??* files? | 03:35 |
| hachre | sarnold: I can solve the issue by setting LC_ALL in /etc/default/locale but I'm wondering where it's getting the idea for de_DE from | 03:35 |
| sarnold | hachre: I think _some_ environment variables can come through via ssh; any chance you've ssh'd in from a de_DE terminal? | 03:36 |
| hachre | sarnold: nope | 03:36 |
| hachre | sarnold: oh wait... wow you're right | 03:36 |
| hachre | sarnold: my machine here has the same issue | 03:36 |
| sarnold | hahaha | 03:36 |
| hachre | sarnold: but it isnt complaining about it | 03:36 |
| hachre | running raring here on the desktop | 03:37 |
| sarnold | I wonder why (both counts...) | 03:37 |
| hachre | and I wonder why my desktop doesnt complain about it like the server does | 03:38 |
| hachre | I have no german language pack installed here either | 03:38 |
| hachre | youre probaly right and the server takes it from my ssh | 03:38 |
| hachre | im gonna set all my LC variables right and ssh back in to check | 03:39 |
| sarnold | at least the desktop I can flummox my way to changing the setting system-wide.. in the settings, language support, there's an "apply system-wide" button | 03:39 |
| hachre | ok | 03:41 |
| hachre | the server is fine | 03:41 |
| hachre | its really coming from my ssh | 03:42 |
| hachre | nice catch :) | 03:42 |
| sarnold | woo :) | 03:43 |
| sarnold | now you get to answer the same question on your desktop. hehe. | 03:43 |
| hachre | on my desktop the /etc/default/locale has this crazyness set up | 03:43 |
| hachre | was easy to find :) | 03:43 |
| hachre | who knows how that happened | 03:44 |
| sarnold | I've got a vague feeling I've seen some geolocation code in the installer to pre-select "the right timezone" and stuff, perhaps it also automatically picks locales, too? (though that'd put more faith in the geolocate stuff than I'd care to use myself...) | 03:45 |
| hachre | yea I've been thinking that too | 03:45 |
| hachre | and it detected rubbish for me when i installed | 03:45 |
| hachre | but i didnt care | 03:45 |
| hachre | maybe thats why | 03:45 |
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| gazoombo | utlemming: I'm still interested in learning more about the build process for the Vagrant boxes, if you have time. | 04:42 |
| gazoombo | utlemming: CentOS is also looking to start releasing official Vagrant boxes: http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=6365 | 04:46 |
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| yousaf | Could do with some help | 08:26 |
| yousaf | dmesg output shows multiple instances of [ 0.000000] *BAD*gran_size: 128M chunk_size: 2G num_reg: 8 lose cover RAM: -904M | 08:27 |
| yousaf | its a dedicated unmanaged server, the hosts says they have done CPU/MEM test and are confident that its fine | 08:27 |
| yousaf | so what does those msgs in the dmesg output mean then? | 08:27 |
| R1ck | hard to tell from a single line, there are probably alot more | 08:34 |
| R1ck | could you pastebin the entire dmesg? | 08:35 |
| Arun_GP | Hello | 08:49 |
| Arun_GP | Is someone listening? | 08:49 |
| R1ck | yes | 08:49 |
| Arun_GP | :) | 08:50 |
| Arun_GP | I am writing a tutorial on LAMP stack | 08:50 |
| Arun_GP | My public_html has permissions 750. The problem is when my webserver uploads a fil/folder it takes ownership of that file/folder. So I can't modify them. | 08:50 |
| Arun_GP | Does you know a method in which, a newly created file/directory(by other users) inherits ownership of that directory. | 08:50 |
| Arun_GP | I know ACL won't work, because it inherits POSIX permissions only | 08:50 |
| Arun_GP | SGID inherits GID of directory | 08:51 |
| R1ck | Arun_GP: you mean when a file gets uploaded the owner is whatever Apache is running as (ie www-data) ? | 08:51 |
| Arun_GP | and POSIX states newly created file/directory inherit ownership from UID os that process | 08:52 |
| R1ck | don't pm me. | 08:52 |
| Arun_GP | Pardon me...new to IRC | 08:52 |
| Arun_GP | And, Yes that is what I meant | 08:53 |
| R1ck | ask your questions in here so multiple people can answer them or learn from the answers to your questions | 08:53 |
| Arun_GP | ok | 08:53 |
| R1ck | so, when you say "So I can't modify them.", what do you mean exactly, in what way are you trying to modify them? | 08:53 |
| Arun_GP | R1ck I went to stackoverflow and saw many webmasters are confused by this | 08:54 |
| Arun_GP | And some of them uses scripts to periodically check the permissions | 08:54 |
| Arun_GP | But I got another solution fsniper that uses inotify instead of continuous polling - http://freecode.com/projects/fsniper | 08:55 |
| R1ck | Just answer my question please | 08:55 |
| Arun_GP | Suppose Apache creates a directory | 08:56 |
| R1ck | Just answer my question please | 08:56 |
| Arun_GP | I do not have write access to that directory | 08:56 |
| Arun_GP | Because Pache takes ownership of that directory | 08:56 |
| Arun_GP | Did you get it R1ck? | 08:57 |
| R1ck | answer my question and I'll try to help you. | 08:58 |
| Arun_GP | Creating a subdirectory inside a directory can also be considered as 'modifying' | 09:00 |
| Arun_GP | If you knew how to solve this, you would have already did | 09:00 |
| Arun_GP | DOn't be a D1ck R1ck | 09:00 |
| Arun_GP | Bye | 09:01 |
| R1ck | *how* are you trying to create a subdirectory | 09:01 |
| R1ck | in a shell? ftp? website? rsync? | 09:01 |
| R1ck | ugh. | 09:01 |
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| shafox | i added the ppa:nathan-renniewaldock/ppa for the latest php and mysql-server , but when i did sudo apt-get install php5 it installed the php fine but couldnt install the mysql-server5.5 showing me this error. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5309328 ... any solutions for this one ?? | 11:21 |
| shafox | i am on lucid btw | 11:21 |
| R1ck | shafox: find out why it fails to start | 11:38 |
| roniez | anybody knows if its possible to move the /home folders to another disk by creating a new partition on a 2nd disk for only the /home what would be the best way to go by that. | 11:41 |
| R1ck | roniez: create the new partition, copy all files from the old /home to the new location, add the partition to /etc/fstab, clean the old /home and mount /dev/newpartition /home | 11:49 |
| halvors | system.sysLocation.0 | 12:32 |
| halvors | obs. | 12:32 |
| halvors | May anyone please help me out with the Ubuntu nagios-snmp-plugins package? :) | 12:32 |
| halvors | I can't get snmp to work probatly :( | 12:32 |
| halvors | I get the error in Nagios "ERROR: Description table : No response from remote host "192.168.0.2". " Does that mean that it can't reach the snmp host or that no information could be pulled from it? | 12:35 |
| halvors | I'm using the check command "check_snmp_int_v1!"GigabitEthernet-[1-6]"" :) | 12:35 |
| R1ck | halvors: either snmp isnt running or the community is invalid | 12:35 |
| R1ck | halvors: very snmp is working correctly with snmpwalk first | 12:35 |
| halvors | R1ck: It is, but maybe my snmp community isn't set probatly? | 12:40 |
| halvors | I have set the snmp community using this command in /etc/nagios3/resource.cfg | 12:41 |
| zul | yolanda: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-novaclient/2.13.0/+merge/157095 | 12:41 |
| yolanda | hi zul | 12:41 |
| halvors | $USER7$=-C public -2 | 12:42 |
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| halvors | R1ck: Any idea? Is it set probatly then? Any more detailed log files i can check for nagios? | 12:42 |
| halvors | Rick: ? :) | 12:46 |
| ndee | I have a fresh server and want to install all the packages from another server. This is what I found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages when I try this, I get following message: http://pastebin.com/D643sp9m <-- how can this be on a total new server? | 12:47 |
| patdk-lap | easily, likely it isn't a real server, but some openvz thing | 12:49 |
| ndee | patdk-lap, no, it's a physical server, that I'm sure. | 12:50 |
| halvors | I get the error "ERROR: Description table : No response from remote host "192.168.0.2"." when trying monitor a cisco switch using the nagios-snmp-plugins ubuntu package. May anyone please help me out? | 12:58 |
| rbasak | ndee: are both servers running the same release? | 13:02 |
| ndee | rbasak, yes | 13:04 |
| patdk-lap | you did do an, apt-get update, first? | 13:07 |
| ndee | patdk-lap, yes | 13:09 |
| ndee | I made apt-get update, apt-get upgrade on the new server | 13:09 |
| ndee | then got the packages from other server with dpkg --get-selections, then set the new selection with dpkg --set-selections < packages on the new server and now that error shows up. | 13:10 |
| zul | yolanda: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-glanceclient/0.9.0/+merge/157106 | 13:11 |
| ndee | adduser, ron and upstart are also installed so I'm really baffled. | 13:15 |
| ndee | I cleared the selections again with: dpkg -l '*' | grep '^in ' | awk '{ print $2 " deinstall" }' | dpkg --set-selections so everything is now as before. Is there another way to get server foo to the same state as server bar? | 13:21 |
| patdk-lap | personally, I use aptitude search '~i !~M' -F "%p install" | 13:23 |
| patdk-lap | do a diff between the two systems | 13:23 |
| patdk-lap | then install the diff | 13:23 |
| halvors | How do i set the SNMP community in the nagios commands in nagios-snmp-plugins? | 13:28 |
| hallyn_ | zul: ! uh, can i get you to consider packaging libvirt 1.0.4 for raring at the last minute? :) | 13:39 |
| hallyn_ | zul: it fixes bug 1157626 without a custom hack in qemu | 13:39 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1157626 in qemu "Unable to use "virsh migrate" on two hosts after moving to raring" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157626 | 13:39 |
| zul | hallyn_: sure | 13:39 |
| hallyn_ | i'm not opposed to fixing it in qemu, but that's going to end up more different from usptream and debian, which will hurt in the long run | 13:40 |
| hallyn_ | of course, with raring htere isn't really a long run :) | 13:40 |
| hallyn_ | zul: awesome, thanks | 13:40 |
| RoyK | any idea when this fix will make it to the repos? http://www.postgresql.org/about/news/1456/ | 13:42 |
| RoyK | seems to be pretty critical | 13:42 |
| ScottK | RoyK: I know that the security team knew it was coming, so I'd imagine "soon". | 13:48 |
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| RoyK | ScottK: I hear from #ubuntu-bugs that the fix was released minutes ago. guess it takes a while to reach my repos | 13:51 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 13:51 |
| ScottK | Also, since the release included more than just the security fixes, for -security, the Ubuntu security team will probably have to segregate out the security changes to apply separately. | 13:52 |
| ScottK | Actually I'm wrong. | 13:53 |
| ScottK | It looks like 9.1.9 is published to security already. | 13:54 |
| ScottK | RoyK: Published 20 minutes ago, so it should be hitting mirrors real soon now. | 13:54 |
| zul | hallyn_: do we need the enable qemu-spice patch anymore? | 13:59 |
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| hallyn_ | uh, lemme check | 14:01 |
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| hallyn_ | zul: no | 14:02 |
| hallyn_ | zul: though, if a vm.xml specifies /usr/bin/kvm-spice, will that then still work? | 14:02 |
| zul | dunno | 14:03 |
| zul | ill leave it in then | 14:03 |
| mardraum | hallyn_: re 1157626 I'm here for a little while longer (1 hr?) until I need to sleep if you want me to try anything :) | 14:07 |
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| ScottK | RoyK: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-1789-1 | 14:11 |
| hallyn_ | mardraum: after you migrate a vm with my patch applied in qemu, have you logged in and really used it? Do you see any corruption with things coming from disk (which weren't yet in page cache)? | 14:12 |
| RoyK | ScottK: thansk | 14:13 |
| hallyn_ | mardraum: basically there are 3 ways to go: (1) my patch, (2) a probably better patchset from upstream, (3) newer libvirt. so zul is packaging newer libvirt right now, andI'll run a testsuite on it | 14:13 |
| hallyn_ | if it looks ok, we'll try to push that as a cleaner fix | 14:13 |
| mardraum | hallyn_: yes, I have logged in, run new binaries, rebooted etc | 14:13 |
| mardraum | all ok | 14:13 |
| halvors | Anyone know how to use the check commands in the nagios-snmp-plugins package? | 14:14 |
| mardraum | still using the 12.10 test vm | 14:14 |
| hallyn_ | mardraum: awesome, thanks | 14:14 |
| mardraum | I'll install some new software now | 14:14 |
| hallyn_ | mardraum: (just saw your email reply sorry :) | 14:14 |
| mardraum | no worries | 14:14 |
| mardraum | just installed nginx for example, and the depends all ok | 14:15 |
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| zul | hallyn_: just doing a local build now | 14:31 |
| hallyn_ | mardraum: cool. | 14:35 |
| hallyn_ | zul: ^ newer libvir tis the *cleaner* fix but after spending 1.5 days on that one-line qemu fix, i'm attached to it dammit :) | 14:36 |
| * hallyn_ biab | 14:37 | |
| zul | hallyn_: ftbfs :( ill fix it up | 14:38 |
| patdk-lap | :) | 14:39 |
| mardraum | hallyn_: thanks for your time on this one. bbl | 14:52 |
| zul | hallyn_: around? | 15:16 |
| hallyn_ | zul: yup | 15:20 |
| zul | hallyn_: im just in the middle of uploading libvirt to http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/libvirt can you see why the testsuite fbtfs please | 15:21 |
| hallyn_ | ok | 15:23 |
| zul | yolanda: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/2013.1/+merge/157138 | 15:24 |
| yolanda | ok | 15:24 |
| zul | yolanda: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/swift/1.8.0/+merge/157142 | 15:39 |
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| hallyn_ | zul: fwiw at least the first error appears to be a real bug in the test driver... just doing '../tools/virsh -c test:///default list' should show the test domain, and doesn't. <huh> | 16:14 |
| bobbyz | hallyn_: I haven't seen all of your above, but have you added '--all' flag to that command? If the domain is not running, you won't see it in 'list' output unless you tag --all onto that | 16:16 |
| hallyn_ | bobbyz: this is the test driver. it does show up without --all in 1.0.2, and teh testcases (upstream) expect it | 16:27 |
| hallyn_ | zul: i mean ffs, 1.0.2..1.0.4. has 729-line diff in src/test/test_driver.c. | 16:39 |
| yousaf | hi all | 16:45 |
| yousaf | I am having issues with twitter oauth, after debugging i found out that my server can not literally find twitter.com | 16:45 |
| yousaf | any reasons why? | 16:46 |
| Fieldy | i'm trying to get an ipv6 tunnel up. I have done this many times on many distributions and kernel versions, however for some reason on this ubuntu server system, i'm getting a problem. any ideas? commands and error output: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5312013/raw/4ccccaba09acfaf5239bba852ed1031d52475d93/stdin.txt | 16:51 |
| Fieldy | i've done a lot of searching on that error, with nothing solid as a result | 16:52 |
| Daviey | roaksoax: I know you are committed with a tonne of stuff right now, but in the next few days.. can you work with plars to coordinate MAAS ISO tests for Raring? | 16:52 |
| roaksoax | Daviey: sure thing | 16:53 |
| sarnold | Fieldy: a few shots-in-the-dark -- does your kernel.modules_disabled sysctl prevent loading one of the ipv6 modules on demand? | 16:58 |
| Fieldy | sarnold: i'll have a look, that's actually what i was just now poking around in -- i had formerly disabled ipv6 (because I didn't need it yet) in 3 sysctl lines however I reversed that (by echoing the opposing value by hand to them) | 16:59 |
| Fieldy | and confirmed that worked by catting them | 16:59 |
| Fieldy | I don't have kernel.modules_disabled at all in /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/sysctl.d/* | 17:00 |
| sarnold | Fieldy: okay, then it's probably not changed (you could check with sysctl directly) -- are the ipv6 modules blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/ ? | 17:00 |
| Fieldy | ooh, no i didn't. i'm tired and was doing crap like echo "0" > net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 ... FAIL. let me do that right | 17:01 |
| Fieldy | that'll teach me to get with the times -- i'm so used to just echoing and catting | 17:02 |
| sarnold | Fieldy: heh, well... the kernel devs have wanted to kill off sysctl for years. I'm not sure they're ever going to do it, but it's been on their minds for ages. blah. | 17:04 |
| Fieldy | heh heh heh. that was it. | 17:04 |
| sarnold | Fieldy: nice :D | 17:05 |
| Fieldy | cough: ls bin mysql-backups net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 net.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6 | 17:05 |
| * Fieldy deletes those and pretends they never existed | 17:05 | |
| Fieldy | sarnold: unless they have something that much better... leave it alone imo | 17:06 |
| sarnold | Fieldy: yeah. I've always liked sysctl. it's easier to sysctl -a | grep ... than it is to find /proc -name '*...*' :) | 17:06 |
| Fieldy | no doubt | 17:06 |
| qhartman_ | I'm trying to install ubuntu server 12.04.2 i386 on an older P4 IBM server. The installer gets to 77% complete and then asks for a disk change. Has anyone found a work around for this? I've checked all the MD5's and done a disk validation, so I know the media is good. | 17:08 |
| qhartman_ | I also know the drive is good, I've used it to install other distros and versions on this machine w/o problems | 17:08 |
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| zul | hallyn_: sucks doesnt it have you figured out whats going on with libvirt? | 18:25 |
| Quest | how to know how much bandwidth is taken on a specific port? | 18:29 |
| hallyn_ | zul: no i haven't | 18:29 |
| hallyn_ | i'm buildign from git right now | 18:29 |
| hallyn_ | zul: i mean yes - the test:///default is not properly registering domain test | 18:29 |
| Quest | rephrase: I need to know what bandwidth is taken on trafic on a specific port. how it can be done? | 18:29 |
| rbasak | Quest: look into iftop | 18:30 |
| Quest | hm | 18:30 |
| rbasak | (though that's interface-based, not port-based) | 18:30 |
| zul | hallyn_: awesome | 18:30 |
| zul | adam_g: how do you want to review these 2013.1 merge requests do you want them one by one or do yout want me to queue them up for you | 18:31 |
| adam_g | zul, doesnt matter. im actually about to push a keystone bug fix that would be great to get out /w 2013.1 | 18:31 |
| zul | adam_g: okies i havent gotten to keystone yet so that would be cool | 18:32 |
| zul | adam_g: btw https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/2013.1/+merge/157196 | 18:33 |
| adam_g | zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/ubuntu/raring/keystone/lp1158563/+merge/157199 | 18:35 |
| Quest | rbasak, how to see traffic on a specific port by iftop? | 18:41 |
| plars | Anyone here who could help with the maas tests or iscsi tests on iso tracker? | 18:43 |
| Quest | rbasak, ? | 18:44 |
| hallyn_ | zul: well, with libvirt from git i don't get thta problem. wtf? | 18:46 |
| zul | hallyn_: maybe something is missing from the tarball (wouldnt surprise me) | 18:47 |
| hallyn_ | true | 18:47 |
| hallyn_ | but, 2 other possibilities: 1. i had to apt-get purge libcurl4-gnutls again to get git version to build. maybe it built but wrongly bc of that from package. (re-building to test) | 18:48 |
| hallyn_ | 2. could be osme patch we have. | 18:48 |
| hallyn_ | do you want to try building from the release tarball? | 18:48 |
| hallyn_ | (else i'll try that third) | 18:48 |
| vedic | I have removed .bash_history file but I still see output of about 10 commands when I write 'history' on the terminal. How to clear history completely? | 19:05 |
| zul | adam_g: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/2013.1/+merge/157205 | 19:07 |
| sarnold | vedic: see the HISTIGNORE and HISTFILE environment variables in the bash(1) manpage | 19:08 |
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| hallyn_ | zul: well huh, for some reason it does not get past | 19:09 |
| hallyn_ | if (!conn->uri->scheme || STRNEQ(conn->uri->scheme, "test")) | 19:09 |
| hallyn_ | return VIR_DRV_OPEN_DECLINED; | 19:09 |
| hallyn_ | (it being testOpen()) | 19:09 |
| zul | which file is that in? | 19:09 |
| hallyn_ | zul: src/test/test_driver.c | 19:10 |
| hallyn_ | zul: OMG conn->uri->scheme is 'qemu', despite "-c test:///default" | 19:10 |
| zul | hallyn_: can you do me a favor? can you drop 9002-better_default_uri_virsh.patch | 19:11 |
| hallyn_ | yup | 19:11 |
| hallyn_ | (gonna take a few misn to build) | 19:12 |
| zul | k | 19:13 |
| hallyn_ | zul: all tests pass with that patch dropped | 19:22 |
| zul | hallyn_: hah thought so | 19:23 |
| hallyn_ | zul: odd, it seems to have been ported correctly at first glance | 19:23 |
| zul | i noticed debian isnt using that patch anymore either | 19:23 |
| hallyn_ | zul: i think i see why | 19:39 |
| zul | oh? | 19:39 |
| hallyn_ | zul: commit abfff210060625af8914e28601f1ec6ed96b05ae switched the order to first call vshInit(), then parse argv | 19:39 |
| zul | ah | 19:40 |
| jackln | I'm trying to setyp a PPTP VPN server, what IPs do I use?! | 19:44 |
| jackln | for remoteip and localip | 19:44 |
| hallyn_ | zul: building with that reversed | 19:44 |
| red82 | can anyone point me at a good resource that I can read up on the process of replicating a mysql database from server A to B such that server B can function as a failover in the even that A goes down? Application is e-commerce. | 19:52 |
| plars | is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1463/info still valid? I'm not seeing these options listed in preferences | 19:55 |
| jackln | Do you know anything about VPNs? | 19:58 |
| hallyn_ | zul: yeah with http://people.canonical.com/~serge/9002-better_default_uri_virsh.patch it works | 19:59 |
| hallyn_ | aaaand.... the machine i was doing that just shut down for no reason | 20:00 |
| hallyn_ | hardware sucks | 20:00 |
| hallyn_ | zul: OTOH, virsh list now gives me segfault. <fume> | 20:07 |
| hallyn_ | oh, heh. | 20:07 |
| hallyn_ | left some debug cruft in my pkg | 20:07 |
| hallyn_ | zul: i dunno, pkg isn't working for me - won't show my installed vms | 20:25 |
| hallyn_ | or have they been deleted | 20:26 |
| * hallyn_ slaps self | 20:27 | |
| hallyn_ | yeah nm it's working. now to run the qa tests | 20:28 |
| cwinebrinner | echo $- | 21:47 |
| cwinebrinner | echo $T | 21:47 |
| cwinebrinner | woops >.> | 21:47 |
| adam_g | zul, not sure if its related to that keystone fix from earlier, but i can't the test suite to pass for the life of me. | 21:50 |
| hallyn_ | zul: so the qa tests mostly pass, except there is some domxml-to-native weirdness | 22:05 |
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| Quest | what is the package name to install GUI on ubuntu server? (i think its unity or gnome for ubuntu?) (and i would prefer kubuntu GUI (kde) ? | 22:10 |
| sarnold | Quest: try: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop^' | 22:13 |
| Quest | whats ^ for? | 22:13 |
| sarnold | (the ^ asks to install the _task_ named kubuntu-desktop, which is different from the package named kubuntu-desktop) | 22:13 |
| Quest | really | 22:14 |
| Quest | if i omit ^. will it install kde? | 22:15 |
| sarnold | Quest: it'll install the metapackage kubuntu-desktop. you might never know the difference between the two. | 22:16 |
| Quest | Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com' | 22:19 |
| sarnold | worked for me locally, and with both 8.8.8.8 and 4.2.2.1 public recursors | 22:21 |
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| Quest | I just ssh through public ip to my server. but it seems i cannot ping -s 25 google.com or apt-get update. | 22:29 |
| Quest | are all ports open by default on ubuntu-server (which is contrary to ubuntu desktop)? | 22:30 |
| hallyn_ | zul: ffs - it dies unless youhave a mem-balloon specified in the xml | 22:32 |
| Quest | sarnold, ^? | 22:33 |
| sarnold | Quest: yes, all ports are open by default on both ubuntu-server and ubuntu-desktop. if you've configured iptables (or one of its frontends like ufw) then of course that'll be different. | 22:36 |
| Quest | sarnold, i just installed ubuntu-server . it updated fine during installation . but now its not | 22:37 |
| sarnold | Quest: check demsg. check 'ping 4.2.2.1'. | 22:37 |
| Quest | let me se | 22:40 |
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| Quest | I just installed ubuntu-server . it boots with a black / blank screen and does not shows anything. what can be wrong? | 23:22 |
| patdk-lap | kernel graphics driver issue probably | 23:23 |
| Quest | patdk-lap, what can be done? | 23:25 |
| Quest | whats the main difference b/w ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop. ? i am having problems installing server . can i go with desktop? | 23:34 |
| sarnold | Quest: server doesn't come with a gui and doesn't use NetworkManager to manage its interfaces. The desktop variant will use NetworkManager, and come with a GUI. | 23:36 |
| sarnold | Quest: you sure can use the desktop variant as a server platform if you wish -- I've done that for my pandaboard, which has no monitor connected | 23:37 |
| Quest | hm | 23:41 |
| Quest | one add is ssh | 23:41 |
| Quest | i can install openssh my self. any thing else that is different? | 23:41 |
| patdk-lap | there is 0 difference between ubuntu server and desktop | 23:42 |
| patdk-lap | just what default packages are installed | 23:42 |
| sarnold | Quest: you can compare the package manifests at e.g. http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ | 23:43 |
| sarnold | oh. uh. there's no server manifest there. | 23:43 |
| Quest | iam having a general error of mounting file systems. iam at shell while installing kubuntu. how to install from shel? | 23:57 |
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