[00:00] cyphermox, is there anywhere else I should go with this, or keep on bugging you and the irc? [00:01] lines 262-265 are the issue [00:02] I think you're missing something in the files you added for your device [00:02] either as an include that is missing, or something else [00:02] AID_NET_RAW is undeclared [00:02] oh wait, is that a kernel thing? [00:04] Do I need to specify those in the kernel? [00:06] Saviq: because you don't sleep, I'll ping you about this === juicyjones|away is now known as juicyjones [00:07] I got the new QML shell, and app search works, but the on screen keyboard lets press events fall through, so it'll select something under the keyboard when I try to search [00:07] mhall119, flash your device [00:07] defconfig makes no reference to AID_NET_RAW. Should I try y'ing it in the kernel, or do I need a file transplant of some sort? [00:07] mhall119, there were problems on the other side with keyboard recently [00:07] dang, you really are awake? What's the matter with you? [00:08] cyphermox? [00:08] * mhall119 phablet-flashes [00:09] mhall119, fixing something we broke yesterday [00:09] anyone? [00:09] mhall119, you did ask whether the SideStage hint is going to affect the phone... [00:09] well it shouldn't, but it did :/ [00:10] oops [00:13] moocow1452: check kernel/wherever your kernel code is for encore/include/linux/android_aid.h [00:13] that file should be there and include AID_NET_RAW [00:14] so under kernel/bn/encore [00:15] I hope the keyboard fix works on apps too, that was bugging me === Lloir_ is now known as Lloir|zZzZz [00:28] Saviq: image 56 doesn't fix the keyboard issue [00:29] mhall119, hum, what's your steps? and on what device? [00:29] * Saviq tries image 56 [00:30] nexus 7 (grouper I think) [00:30] /home/mhall/Downloads/phablet-flash/56/quantal-preinstalled-armel+grouper [00:31] as you are saying about keyboard, i wonder is there any way to add another language to the keyboard? [00:31] I go to dash, apps lens, press the search at the top and the keyboard comes up. The R is above one of the installed apps (ebay in my case), so when I press R it registers the keyboard press, and also registers a press on the ebay launcher [00:37] ping Saviq [00:38] mhall119, can't reproduce here [00:39] mhall119, freshly flashed 56 on Galaxy Nexus [00:39] bobweaver, hey [00:41] hello Saviq how to make dafault satae of text edit String ? I know vague got time for gH ? [00:42] bobweaver, E_SYNTAXERROR [00:42] lol [00:42] let me paste some code [00:44] http://pastebin.com/CXSyjxTh [00:44] line 10 [00:44] tried to make into case still no good [00:44] can not figure it out [00:47] so if you lokk at video you can see that there i is missing soace in text so user can not click to edit [00:47] Saviq, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H05mT0jStgM [00:48] frontend info it is a component well kinda [00:48] model / delegant [00:49] that dumps sqlight data to local storage [00:49] bobweaver, «DataBase.frontendPort1() !== "6547" || ""» looks wrong [00:49] bobweaver, "" is always false [00:50] that is what I am talking about [00:50] so is NULL thwen false ? [00:51] bobweaver: did you mean to do (DataBase.frontendPort1() !== "6547" || DataBase.frontendPort1() !== "") ? [00:52] also look at ip [00:52] http://pastebin.com/nffsBcbH [00:52] like to have default state that is there unless sqling ihas info [00:52] if DataBase.whatever = error then .... [00:52] bobweaver: I've been using placeholderText on TextField to display something when the text input has no value [00:53] then logic elsewhere to do the "right thing" when there is no specific value [00:53] mhall119, yes user needs to be able to click info [00:53] if there is not String in the textedit feild then they can not clickaroo [00:57] bobweaver, you shouldn't bind TextInput.text - the binding gets broken as soon as you enter anything in the field [00:59] But I dont care about that allI care about is if sqllight db has nothing then have default text: [00:59] Saviq, [00:59] bobweaver, then use what mhall119 said - there's a placeholderText property on a TextField [01:00] Saviq, you think that i should make a binding statement ? I am sorry I am a noob just trying to make things that work for me in my house [01:00] Saviq, what about qt4 supported ? [01:00] bobweaver, not gonna happen [01:00] for necessitia and what not ? [01:01] :*( [01:01] bobweaver, we rely on Qt5 for too many things [01:02] bobweaver, unless you mean support for Qt4 apps on Ubuntu Touch? then that will probably come at some point [01:02] not just you YOU but for every one [01:02] but we won't support it [01:02] like I can make qt5 app and also qt4 for other sdk like making dsk in necessitia [01:03] that is great but would be cool if you did [01:03] would make sort term opp faster [01:03] jmo [01:03] bobweaver, necessitas will port to Qt5 soon enough, I'd say [01:03] +1 [01:04] I mean +2 [03:17] * sergiusens is running a raring build [03:17] rsalveti: boots, launches, runs apps... most of it works on raring :-) [04:07] mhall119: you can find an example with apt-get source qtsensors-opensource-src (the plugin part) [04:08] sergiusens: awesome! :) [04:09] Mirv: posting the image out of band soon for people to play with [04:09] :-) [04:09] * sergiusens was expecting to boot into a black screen :-P === jasoncwarner__ is now known as jasoncwarner_ [04:20] sergiusens: I'd have guessed it'd work quite far, since we rely so heavily on Qt and it's the exact same Qt in both [04:21] sergiusens: for raring there's a newer qtwebkit build in qt5-proper PPA (pixel ratio patches etc), otherwise everything's in the raring archives [04:22] but it's great if there's also nothing major in the other stack that breaks with raring [04:25] Mirv: well somethings are broken as they are in raring and still need to be overriden [04:29] sergiusens: regarding parts of Qt or something else? [04:32] Mirv: not, Qt is fine :-) [04:32] ok, just double-checking :) [04:32] Mirv: network is broken, running out of memory with media... === juicyjones is now known as juicyjones|away === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [05:16] Mirv: in case you are interested, just sent an email to he list === wfire is now known as wade|shull [05:48] looks interesting [07:11] good morning [07:53] Hi! Is there some progress on Terminal App? === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:19] Is it possible to switch Ubuntu Touch onto a shell like the desktop Ubuntu? [08:19] "onto a shell" ? [08:20] it is/has a shell [08:20] ogra_: Sorry I mean like on Ubuntu it runs the GUI by default but if you press Ctrl Alt + F1, etc you can login in text based mode [08:21] ah, you want tty consoles ... no , by design it supports adb shell from a remote machine though [08:22] ogra_: Will it be possible in the future? [08:22] ogra_: Or rather, will there be a Terminal app in the future? [08:23] Oh well in the future it will support docking won't it so that'd solve that problem [08:23] there will be a terminal app by default (at least in the images we publish, i doubt if a carrier ships a phone he will allow that) [08:23] ogra_: Ok, thanks for the help. Just looking at replacing my work setup with a single device running Ubuntu Touch :) [08:24] heh, we will di that for you in 14.04 :) [08:24] *do [08:24] unity next (which is what you currently know as ubuntu touch UI) will move to the desktop too [08:25] (it will still look like todays desktop ... or similar at least, thats why it takes a bit to port it) [08:26] ogra_: Will switching to QT improve performance? Or is it a switch to improve development? [08:26] both :) [08:27] :D [08:56] Saviq: ping [08:57] nik90, wassup? [08:57] Saviq: I saw your MP https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-desktop-and-arch/+merge/156952 [08:58] since the desktop file is doing all the work to execute the clock app, do we need the ubuntu-clock-app file? [08:58] nik90, yeah, it's not needed [08:58] nik90, but doesn't really hurt when you launch from the console [08:58] Saviq, is this how the other core apps are doing it as well? [08:59] nik90, although I'd add the --desktop_file_hint=... --stage_hint=side_stage hints to the script [08:59] nik90, or at least pass $@ in there [08:59] nik90, yes, that's common [09:00] Saviq: alrite, so do you recommend letting the ubuntu-clock-app file remain with the additional commands you mentioned? [09:01] nik90, it won't hurt, but will only be used when you launch from the console [09:01] Given that the Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10 have the same SoC, would it be possible for me to boot Ubuntu on my Nexus 10? I know that the I/O is different, but if Ubuntu booted off the Android kernel that would solve the issue. The video drivers are available for the SoC in the 13.04 repos so the only issue would be GPU access. [09:01] Saviq: ok...thnx [09:02] kvarley, if you mean Ubuntu Touch, then Nexus 10 is one of the supported devices [09:03] kvarley, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [09:03] Saviq: I mean full Ubuntu like the Nexus 7 has. Not Touch :) [09:03] kvarley, wrong channel, then ;) [09:03] kvarley, but I dunno [09:03] Saviq: ok :) === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:29] ogra_, should adb see my nexus7 if the tablet is booted under raring (stock ubuntu, not touch)? [09:34] seb128, nope, only in recovery [09:35] we dont ship adb in the desktop [09:35] ogra_, ok, thanks, that's broken as well, I get a green android robot with a red sign [09:35] uuuh [09:35] I'm putting back android on it then going to phablet [09:36] nah [09:36] seb128, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img [09:36] fastboot flash recovery quantal-preinstalled-recovery-armel+grouper.img [09:36] then try again [09:37] if you get adb, use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Manual_Installation [09:37] no need for a whole android flashing [09:38] ogra_, \o/ recovery mode back [09:38] ogra_, danke [09:38] :) [09:38] $ phablet-flash -l [09:38] Device detected as /sbin/sh: getprop: not found [09:38] hum [09:39] I guess I need to -b [09:39] no, same issue [09:40] use the manual method i linked above [09:40] ogra_, shouldn't the script work? [09:40] theoretically [09:41] you can use "-d grouper" [09:41] iirc [09:41] * ogra_ never used that script [09:42] ogra_, I'm wgetting the img, let's try to be old school ;-) [09:42] yeah, effectively the script does the same with some cream and cherry on top [09:43] Do any of the Touch devs have an image for the Nexus 10 that will boot straight Ubuntu? (13.04) Similar to that which is provided for the Nexus 7. [09:43] there are no desktop images if you mean that [09:43] only ubuntu-touch [09:46] ogra_: Do the images support docking (full unity) mode yet? [09:47] nope [09:48] that will only start working once Mir is used on the desktop too [09:55] ogra_: Ah ok, early days then. Will be great to see that in action. I think bug #1 might be fixed if it's done right ;) [09:55] bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [09:56] hopefully :) [09:56] Maybe not for personal use, but in the business world :) [09:57] a touch version of UbuntuKylin might fix that bug i would guess :) [10:22] ogra_: Are armhf images made with NEON support? [10:22] * Quintasan wonders why linker skips libc.so on his tf101 [10:22] Quintasan, as usual ... for apps that do runtime switching, yes [10:23] for apps that can only use build time NEON enablement we dont allow it [10:23] urgh [10:23] ogra_: I see, any idea how to debug ubuntu-session failing to start? [10:24] hardcoded NEON isnt allowed ... [10:24] ogra_, why do you always have an _ behind your nick? [10:24] look in the logs [10:24] smartboyhw, because i'm to lazy to configure my bip server to always authenticate with my user [10:25] ogra_: Problem is the only real error I get is E/linker ( 219): ics/linker.c:1598| WARNING: Skipping libc.so [10:25] ogra_, .......... You aren't that lazy are you? [10:25] * ogra_ does that once a year to make sure my password still works ... but on the next reconnect i fall back to _ [10:25] smartboyhw, i rather spend my time in development than doing paperwork for IRC :) [10:26] * Quintasan reflashes the image to look at the logs in detail [10:26] Quintasan, when do you see that ? while starting ? [10:27] ogra_: I flash the image, try booting it then I see nothing (read - only backlight gets activated) then I managed to do adb logcat on the device somehow [10:27] ogra_: I'll try flashing that again and logging in via adb but that generally doesn't work since it seems to be constantly rebooting itself [10:27] well, you want to use "ubuntu_chroot shell" and look in the phablet users homedir under .ubuntu-session/logs/ [10:28] how old is your android image ? [10:28] can i go back to the android.. after flashing ubuntu? on tf101 [10:29] Quintasan, could be that there were changes to the hybris or platform-abi stuff, you need to make sure to bzr update them in the ubuntu subdir of the android tree before building [10:29] repo sync doesnt run bzr === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === Lloir|zZzZz is now known as Lloir [10:38] ogra_: I'm pretty sure I flashed quantal preinstall armhf from yesterday [10:38] I did not build the image myself but I think I will actually start doing that [10:40] you should, or make sure the person doing it does regular rebuilds if the bzr trees change [10:41] ogra_: I see. Thanks for help! [10:41] * Quintasan heads off to build the image [10:41] well, not sure i have helped yet :) [10:42] you will see if that is it once you have a fresh image [10:42] might be a completely different thing [10:42] ogra_: I somehow get the idea that updating the bzr stuff will help [10:42] :) [10:49] ogra_: Actually I'll try making that person who is spinning the images do the update before fetching the whole thing myself === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [11:18] is there a way to make the toolbar in a Ubuntu Touch qml app hide? for example when I have a page stack layout and I used the back button to pop a page from the stack and then push that page again, the toolbar is still open [11:19] I tried setting page1.tools.active = false; but that didn't seem to do anything [11:47] Just published: preliminary sketches for the System Settings overview. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone [11:49] Hi [11:49] I'm trying to unlock the Nexus 4 [11:50] but "fastboot oem unlock" is stuck [11:50] It did work with Nexus 7 [11:51] mpt, the variable tiles one looks really slick [11:51] rvr, I don't know why, but I had to reboot my nexus 4 for it to work [11:51] steve_fi: I've tried a couple of times with no luck, let me try again [11:52] ogra_, yeah, I'm a bit fond of it too. :-) But it's quite different from the style of the rest of the system. [11:52] its special and makes us special :) === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [11:54] Weird, still [11:55] rvr, what I found is that when I booted into recovery to unlock the bootloader, adb wouldn't work unless I turned the nexus 4 off then back on [11:55] rvr, I don't know if it's specific to the nexus 4 or not, never had a problem on any other devices I've used === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:56] rvr, when I switch it back on, I'd get into recovery and it would always say "do not switch the device off" [11:56] until the operation had completed [11:56] ok, got the toolbar hiding working now, would be good though if this was done automatically with the build-in back action in page stacks [11:56] rvr, but you are in fastboot mode (not recovery) ? [11:56] steve_fi: On the Nexus 7 it was very much straightforward, like stated on the wiki [11:57] rvr: do you have the latest version of android-tools-fastboot installed? [11:57] pmcgowan: Yup, packages updated [11:57] rvr: ran it as sudo? [11:58] ogra_, perhaps i used the wrong word ... ooops ;) [11:59] pmcgowan: Sh*t [11:59] That was it, sorry :P [11:59] np [11:59] been there done that [12:00] we should ship proper udev-acl rules in the adb package for this [12:00] so you dont need root [12:00] ogra_: good point [12:00] (or in the fastboot package rather) [12:00] (or even in both !!) [12:01] :) [12:05] popey: can we get those MRs for the core apps in === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:10] Saviq: what is left to do to use the flags for the stage selection [12:11] pmcgowan: they already have been [12:11] * popey checks in case he's gone mad [12:11] popey: calc was merged, not the other two [12:11] clock has [12:11] I'm on a hangout with them now [12:12] https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-desktop-and-arch/+merge/156952 [12:12] https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/ubuntu-calendar-app/fix-desktop-arch/+merge/156960 [12:12] popey: clock not acc to the mr [12:12] expected jenkins to do its thing [12:12] ok, top approved [12:20] pmcgowan, the only remaining one is share-app, which fails (unrelated) tests [12:20] pmcgowan, https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/share-app/desktop_file_tweak/+merge/156560 [12:20] Saviq: did the shell need an update to use the flags, or how is it done? [12:21] pmcgowan, the app lens did [12:21] pmcgowan, but only to filter _out_ those that didn't have Touch=true [12:21] Saviq: so there is a new update pending on that or the one from yesterday [12:21] pmcgowan, everything is merged now [12:21] Saviq: thanks [12:21] pmcgowan, apart from the share app [12:22] pmcgowan, not everything is in the image yet [12:22] right, hoping to see that tonight [12:28] popey: is the current month 13.10-month-0? [12:30] popey, love your use of unicode ;) [12:30] Saviq: :D [12:30] nik90: yes [12:31] nik90: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/coreapps-13.10 has dates next to milestones [12:33] Saviq: I started using Unicode a lot after Fedora had a bug in their bug tracker which made it impossible to file bugs against Fedora 18 because it's called "Schrödinger's cat". [12:33] :D [12:35] popey: thnx === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:51] I get a segmentation fault when exiting a QtWebkit WebView in a qml app with visible set to false: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5676504/ [12:51] I don't know if that is a bug in the qt version in ubuntu or qtwebkit in general === lubuntu is now known as Guest72515 [13:14] ckpringle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUoRgsPYkbQ [13:14] nik90: cheers! [13:14] gtg..c u later [13:14] nik90: oh sorry we went straight for lunch after, talk to you later ;) [13:15] ckpringle: np :) === ricmm_ is now known as ricmm === sidnei` is now known as sidnei [13:59] sergiusens: mind taking a look at the chromium_net related patches later on? [13:59] needs to be applied at phablet.u.c === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [14:05] zsombi: ping [14:06] tsdgeos: pong [14:06] zsombi: greyback told me i should tell you about the problem i'm having with ActivityIndicator [14:06] zsombi: it's taking 40% of the CPU of the Nexus4 [14:07] tsdgeos: :( [14:07] he says you had a patch for that or something? [14:07] tsdgeos: which SDK release you have? [14:08] zsombi: 0.1.39~quantal1 is what is running on the phone [14:09] tsdgeos: we had a patch for turning it off when not running, but when running, that's the time it takes :/ [14:09] tsdgeos: so you have the latest one... I'm sorry to say that animating the image unfortunately takes that much. I guess you are concerned about the time taken when running, right? === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [14:11] zsombi: well, the thing is that i'm doing other processor intensive stuff while that is running [14:11] and i max out the cpu [14:11] and all gets choppy [14:12] Saviq: so I still have that keyboard problem, who should I bug about that? [14:12] mhall119, tmoenicke to start with [14:12] tmoenicke: pingity ping [14:18] oSoMoN, are you caring for share-app? or is Ugo? === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [14:20] Saviq: Ugo is, but he’s working part time these days, and he’s off until next Monday, so if there’s anything urgent I’ll take it [14:20] oSoMoN, if you had any idea why https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/share-app/desktop_file_tweak/+merge/156560 fails tests [14:22] Saviq: I’ll have a look === jhodapp|afk is now known as jhodapp [14:31] Saviq: the autopilot tests pass locally, I’ll try to figure out why they are failing on jenkins [14:32] oSoMoN, thanks [14:33] rsalveti: ack [14:35] mhall119: pong [14:36] tmoenicke: hey, I have a problem with my onscreen keyboard on my nexus 7 [14:36] when I click a key on it, the press event is also passed on to whatever widgets are below it [14:36] mhall119: yes, I'm working on it :) [14:37] ok, Saviq said it was fixed yesterday, but it's not for me, so I wanted to make sure the correct people knew it was still a bug [14:37] mhall119: it was marked as fixed but re-opened [14:40] rsalveti, thanks for the permissions fix yesterday...it did the trick for the permission denied error...still get a connection refused error but like you said before, progress. :) [14:42] jhodapp: cool [14:46] xnox, regarding dep8 tests, we talked about those recently. They aren't run as part of stack prep right now [14:47] Is it a known issue that device restarts when executing ubuntu_chroot? [14:48] mterry: fair enough. I think jibel and friends did say that it is possible to add ppa's to DEP8 infrastructure. But I can see how that will not block merge proposals / uploads. [14:48] mterry: even just running them against the resulting PPA would be nice (if there are any) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [14:57] So if my test binaries need android, that means if I flash my nexus7 with a phablet image I will be able to execute them. Correct? [14:59] xnox: possibly? [14:59] you will not likely be able to display anything on screen, but you can query android bits [14:59] Hm... i have ubuntu core on my nexus7, will need to reflash it. [15:00] it all depends what you're trying to do :) === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [15:14] Since I still boot into ubuntu-core sometimes. [15:14] phablet-flash doesn't quite work for me. [15:14] I reboot into recovery and phablet-flash doesn't "flash" if it's in recovery. I'm following manual deployment steps atm. [15:14] It would be nice if it just did the right thing, if I specify the device type. [15:15] xnox, see the Install wikipage [15:15] i added a "Manual Installation" topic [15:15] just follow it [15:15] the battery indicator's menu is sometime empty on today's image for me [15:15] is that a known issue? [15:16] ogra_: yeah, I'm following that. =) I now wish phablet-deploy learns to do that =) [15:16] it largely does that :) [15:16] just a bit different :) [15:17] xnox: I was also using manual steps, don't want to reflash recovery or really get out of it [15:17] xnox: I did some changes in phablet-flash to make it agree to flash in recovery, but I'm not sure how to properly integrate that and have both ways work [15:18] cyphermox: if you pastebin your diff, I can work on it further =) [15:18] xnox: I think I reverted the changes, but it's easy enough [15:18] cyphermox: ok, will poke it later. [15:19] xnox: i'll edit in a branch and send you the link soon [15:19] just use the manual mode i added as a blueprint add it to phablet-flash in a way that it does exactly that but only if you run it with --recovery-install [15:19] yeah [15:19] easy peasy :) [15:20] ogra_: well adb devices already lists recovery, it's just it should start doing stuff if it finds recovery in adb devices && device type was specified on the command line. [15:20] Saviq: I *think* CI is failing for the share-app because of missing runtime deps for the autopilot package, I’ve submitted https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/share-app/more-autopilot-deps/+merge/157137, let’s see if CI passes there [15:20] ogra_: indeed, should be simple enough [15:20] I'll squeeze in an hour to fix it up ;) [15:21] ogra_: there are some changes needed because for instance, df isn't the same in recovery as in the device (for detection) [15:21] ah [15:21] if I was to make it run through almost the same steps... ;) [15:21] oSoMoN, thanks [15:21] but yeah, got a few ideas [15:23] Hi all. I'm having a problem getting things running again on a Nexus 10 after what appears to have been a corrupted flash with r55. [15:41] Saviq: CI passed, can you please approve https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/share-app/more-autopilot-deps/+merge/157137 ? [15:41] janimo, the "ubuntu touch display server" (as you call it in your mail) currently is android :) [15:41] oSoMoN, awesome, thanks [15:43] ogra_, well I did not want to call it anything as I knew it was a Qt/SurfaceFlinger combo but with no idea how it related to xinput :) [15:43] and just in case Mir went in in the past few days without me noticing :) [15:43] heh [15:44] well, its libinput from android [15:44] i doubt that will change with Mir [15:44] at least for the start it wont i guess [15:45] Saviq: once it’s merged, we can re-trigger CI on Paul’s MR [15:45] oSoMoN, yup, I'll take care of it, thanks === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [16:09] Hmm... how do I run raring on this thing? dist-upgrade and away I go? =) [16:10] ogra_, that explains why we needed the kernel change to have it work with X and now need to revert it so it works with android again [16:11] janimo, right, but i dont want to break the desktop images ... so worst case we need to leave its kernel as is [16:12] ogra_, I am sure something can be done to have it work both ways, but don't know how [16:13] yeah, well, i suspect the desktop image will go away after 13.04 [16:14] * xnox downloading raring build. [16:15] ogra_: I'm confused why are we releasing nexus7 desktop image at all to be honest. Same with pandas and ac100. [16:15] (well ac100 is kind of lubuntu target, which is ok) [16:15] ac100 is a community image [16:16] i wont comment the panda :P [16:17] xnox, the nexus7 is our current desktop reference image on arm [16:18] for the convergence story we need to make sure desktop bits work [16:18] * xnox downloading raring build of ubuntuone takes a while. [16:18] someone on the ML said it took him 4h [16:19] sergiusens, so when can we switch the dailies on cdimage to raring ? :) [16:19] any planned ETA ? [16:19] sergiusens: can you throw the raring.zip on to people.canonical.com or something? =) [16:19] ogra_, for convergence? Should that not be better served by an Ubuntu Touch image then? [16:19] ++ [16:19] janimo, it will still use desktop apps [16:19] I don't suppose Unity in it's current form will move forward on the Nexus 7 [16:19] ogra_: it seems like dist-upgrade + enable ppa's wil be quicker. [16:19] no. it wont [16:20] (that was to janimo ) [16:20] janimo: it is a stable reference platform for debugging though, and easier to deploy to. [16:20] (no chroot/containers) [16:20] janimo, but we might use apps and cant test them without X yet [16:21] so until we have XMir to test i.e. LibO on arm for cobnvergence we will need one image around that can run this [16:21] ogra_, can you tell me what are now difficulties for calls on i9100? [16:21] krabador, nope, i dont even have a SIM in mine [16:22] i use my i9100 for app testing etc [16:22] ogra_, ok, but it's related on cm10.1 kernel, or ubuntu-touch support? [16:22] did the xda forum guys not get it to work yet ? [16:23] ogra_, not, until now, not working. [16:23] the ubuntu side should support calls and SMS if you have a SIM without PIN [16:23] no 3G though [16:25] Anyone are here? [16:25] seb128: hey [16:25] I got SEG FAULT on all services [16:26] seb128: Just checking in in case you had any questions you wanted to ask about mupdf in advance of the doc viewer meeting this evening. [16:26] i mean services that in my base android inculding surfaceflinger, etc [16:26] all returned MAPERR [16:26] Robin_Watts, hey, nothing specific [16:26] How to debug/fix? [16:26]