[00:23] <Squirm> evening
[00:56] <nuvolari> afternoon Squirm 
[05:30] <Kilos> morning superfly and others
[06:22] <superfly> hi Kilos
[07:00] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:00] <Vince-0> Hi!
[09:40]  * Kilos sitting on maverick. trying to build up the courage to install 12.02 unity on it
[09:47] <Kilos> hi henkj inetpro 
[09:47] <Kilos> wonder what happened to jurgens
[09:49] <henkj> hi Kilos 
[10:01] <Kilos> hi Tonberry 
[10:01] <Tonberry> hallo
[10:16] <Kilos> yo Trixar_za 
[10:16] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos, you've been pretty scarce hey
[10:17] <Kilos> yeah been trying to save a 160g drive but looks like its sicker
[10:17] <Kilos> might work as storage only
[10:21] <Kilos> also been sleeping lots
[10:21] <Trixar_za> Yeah, I have a old laptop drive I put in an external. It's 160GB drive too and USB 3
[10:22] <Trixar_za> You can use it with a USB 1.1 system, but then it needs you to plugin into two sockets
[10:22] <Kilos> this one does weird things. shows disk sleep on and off
[10:22] <Trixar_za> And if you do that, 9 times out of 10, Windows will corrupt the partition
[10:23] <Kilos> why you use windows on it?
[10:23] <Kilos> i formatted my external to ext4 and windows cant even see it
[10:23] <Trixar_za> So I can copy things from other people
[10:24] <Kilos> ah
[10:24] <Trixar_za> Works fine in Linux, even when the partition gets broken
[10:24] <Kilos> hehe
[10:25] <Trixar_za> Oh, been meaning to tell you about sakis3g
[10:26] <Kilos> yes?
[10:26] <Trixar_za> Somebody tested the new version I made and his 3G modem could connect where before it wouldn't
[10:26] <Trixar_za> connected*
[10:26] <Kilos> nice
[10:26] <Trixar_za> Meaning the modification I made to the 67 files helped
[10:27] <Kilos> ive never had probs connecting with it, only installing without the site working
[10:27] <Kilos> great
[10:28] <Kilos> why dont you make it a .deb file as well then installs will be easy
[10:29] <Kilos> is that major work?
[10:29] <Trixar_za> Debian packages aren't my forte and I probably need to make a site for it now
[10:30] <Trixar_za> Oh and find people to make the 64bit and ARM versions
[10:30] <Kilos> well at least you keep busy hey
[10:31] <Kilos> werent you going to capetown after work a while back?
[13:31] <Squirm> anyone here happen to know if a decent Android phone for sale?
[14:29] <Superhuman> Squirm: what is you budget like?
[14:29] <Superhuman> *your
[14:29] <Superhuman> what are you looking at spending for the phone?
[14:29] <Squirm> Superhuman: at a stretch, R3k
[14:30] <Squirm> meh, now I like the Nexus 4 :P But it's $300usd, they don't ship to SA so it's a mission to get it here. 
[14:35] <Superhuman> The best would be to look at the phones in your price range, and the start comparing them on gsmarena.
[14:36] <Superhuman> Took me 2 weeks to decide which phone to take on my upgrade. Settled for the Huawei Ideos X5. Great low/mid range phone.
[14:39] <Superhuman> The only thing your decicion should be based on; is the hardware. Do you want a big camera, look at Sony Ericsson (they used to have the best cameras in their phones, don't know now).
[15:19] <Squirm> Superhuman: I had the Ideos X5
[15:19] <Squirm> until it was stolen
[15:19] <Squirm> now I can't find where to pay cash for it
[15:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=28&products_id=1387
[15:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> Squirm, have heard that that one is pretty good, but don't know personally
[15:29] <ThatGraemeGuy> seems decent enough on paper at any rate
[16:01] <Kilos> eeek winter has arrived. expected 11°chere tonight and 6°c in joburg
[16:01] <Kilos> hi Mezenir ThatGraemeGuy 
[16:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'ello :)
[16:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> ooooh is it home time already :o
[16:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok i'm off, later peeps!
[16:05] <Kilos> go safe
[16:06] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[16:06] <nlsthzn> hiya uncle Kilos
[16:07] <nlsthzn> bye :p
[16:07] <Kilos> sjoe
[16:48] <superfly> hallo
[16:49] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[16:50] <Kilos> whats actually the diffs between hello and hallo and which one you use when?
[16:55] <superfly> Kilos: hello = english, hallo = afrikaans
[16:55] <Kilos> you sure superfly .
[16:55] <Kilos> ?
[16:55] <Kilos> im  sure ive seen engelse using hallo
[16:55] <superfly> as far as I know
[16:56] <Kilos> ty
[17:09] <Kilos> ai! 8ta sick. under 30 kB/s download speed
[17:33] <nuvolari> o/ alloha
[17:33] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos 
[17:33] <nuvolari> lo superfly 
[17:33] <nuvolari> and ThatGraemeGuy 
[17:33] <Kilos> naand nuvolari 
[17:34] <nuvolari> aand ja dis aand oom
[17:34] <nuvolari> :P
[17:34] <Kilos> is die interweb siek of is dit net 8ta nou?
[17:35]  * nuvolari sal liewers ophou stuitig wees, nou-nou kry oom Kilos 'n oorval en bevlieg my :P
[17:35] <nuvolari> hmm, my interweb is deels gesond
[17:35] <Kilos> hehe
[17:35] <Kilos> ai! 8ta baie stadig hier
[17:36] <not_found> >.>
[17:36] <nuvolari> dit lyk my 8ta maak beurte om ons siel te versondig
[17:36] <nuvolari> oh hi 404
[17:36] <not_found> :p
[17:36] <Kilos> ja hulle was lang ruk goed en nou ewe skielik grrr
[17:37] <Kilos> onder 30 kB/s. was altyd naby 300kB/s
[17:37] <charl> good evening
[17:37] <Kilos> hiya charl 
[17:38] <charl> hi Kilos 
[17:38] <Kilos> dit you read maia's mail about where you are
[17:38] <charl> me?
[17:38] <Kilos> smile4ever, you too! good evening
[17:38] <smile4ever> thanks :D
[17:38] <charl> hi smile4ever :)
[17:38] <smile4ever> slept well? :p
[17:38] <Kilos> yes man dod arent you on our list
[17:39] <smile4ever> nuvolari: waar 404? :p
[17:39] <smile4ever> hi, charl :)
[17:39] <charl> Kilos: you mean the mailing list? actually no :)
[17:39] <charl> i don't belong to any mailing lists anymore
[17:39] <nuvolari> smile4ever: http/404: not_found 
[17:39] <nuvolari> :P
[17:39] <not_found> smile4ever, >.>
[17:39] <charl> i can't keep up with the flood these days
[17:39] <Kilos> maia wants peeps from all over the world to send pics or something. she is making  a goodie to keep them all
[17:40] <not_found> maia forwarded the message from a user in US
[17:40] <Kilos> ai! charl thats sleg
[17:40] <nuvolari> defying the laws of physics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWRwxjh9H_Q (Tareq Alsaadi)
[17:40] <not_found> would like postcards from all over the world from Ubuntu users
[17:40] <charl> is it this mail? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2013-April/010287.html
[17:40] <not_found> nuvolari, Emirati with to much time :p
[17:41] <nuvolari> not_found: yeah, and money too
[17:41] <Kilos> im sure you can snap a pic or 2 there and email them to her
[17:41] <charl> oh i see this is a forwarded message from Philip Ballew but they didn't include an address of where to send post cards to
[17:41] <not_found> oh, that you can be sure of nuvolari 
[17:41] <not_found> I added the address
[17:42] <not_found> next post in the thread
[17:42] <nuvolari> not_found: just waiting for my transmitter, I got a Blade MCP X v2 BL to start my 3d training :P
[17:42] <charl> ah i see it thanks: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-za/2013-April/010290.html
[17:42] <smile4ever> nuvolari: I know ;) but which link :p
[17:42] <charl> interesting idea
[17:42] <smile4ever> ooo
[17:42] <smile4ever> :p
[17:42] <nuvolari> smile4ever: heh
[17:42] <smile4ever> hehe.
[17:42] <smile4ever> :)
[17:42] <smile4ever> I get it.
[17:42] <nuvolari> that one
[17:44] <Kilos> another idea. what about a photo of you guys as well to add to our ubuntu-za goodie
[17:44] <Kilos> so one can put a face to a nick
[17:45]  * not_found is to privacy conscious for that >.>
[17:46] <Kilos> ai! neelsie. really?
[17:46] <charl> lol with a nickname like not_found i bet :)
[17:46] <Kilos> rofl
[17:46] <charl> obvious is obvious as i say :)
[17:46] <charl> well people who want to can do it, it's optional of course
[17:47] <not_found> well, my ugly mug is on my wiki page etc :p
[17:47] <Kilos> not_found, would be inna loco book or something man 
[17:47] <nuvolari> oom Kilos: 158 kB/s tydens my upgrade
[17:47] <charl> smile4ever: is it still so cold in belgium too? i can't believe it is april
[17:48] <charl> it was like a bad april fool's joke except that it isn't over
[17:48] <charl> actually the 1st was quite a sunny day here, maybe that was the joke :P
[17:48] <Kilos> dis sleg nuvolari  hulle het baie beter gedoen paar weke terug
[17:48] <Kilos> gemiddeld van 250 kB/s
[17:49] <Kilos> upgrade na wat nuvolari ?
[17:49] <nuvolari> net 'n maintenance upgrade vir ubuntu oom
[17:50] <Kilos> x?
[17:50] <nuvolari> eh?
[17:50] <Kilos> jy band kde en unity ne
[17:50] <Kilos> hehe
[17:50] <Kilos> bang
[17:50] <nuvolari> oh, ja maar ek het begin met 'n stock ubuntu, so ek kry al die ander updates ook :-/
[17:51] <nuvolari> ek jeuk vir Archlinux
[17:51] <nuvolari> baie baie
[17:51] <Kilos> ek hou meer van altwee as vir xubuntu
[17:51] <nuvolari> nee hu uk
[17:51] <nuvolari> *hu uh
[17:52] <Kilos> kde is lekker maar die gesoek vir desktop is moeite
[17:52] <nuvolari> ek't op 'n kollega se kde gewerk, dit is uiters frustrerend!
[17:53] <Kilos> dit vat n ruk om gewoond te raak maar dan is dit lekker
[17:53] <nuvolari> nee jinne, 'n mens moet orals kliek
[17:53] <Kilos> lol
[17:53]  * not_found going to sleep now... night all
[17:53] <nuvolari> night 404
[17:53] <Kilos> night not_found  sleep tight
[17:53] <Kilos> oh ya 404
[17:54] <Kilos> thats actually a lekker nick
[17:54] <Kilos> aw dont work
[17:56] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[17:57] <inetpro> good evening Kilos
[17:57] <Kilos> wow are you still alive goosie?
[17:59]  * inetpro never sleeps
[18:00] <Kilos> or anything else either lately
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: you been very quiet
[18:00] <Kilos> ive greeted you everyday
[18:01] <Kilos> i been busy too
[18:01] <Kilos> contemplating putting 12.04 in place of maverick
[18:06] <inetpro> Kilos: sorry
[18:07] <Kilos> for what?
[18:07] <inetpro> Kilos: for not greeting you
[18:07] <Kilos> dont be sorry be careful
[18:07] <inetpro> ok
[18:07] <Kilos> but you are forgiven anyway
[18:08] <inetpro> ta :-)
[18:08] <Kilos> hehe
[18:08] <inetpro> so Kilos, what's the problem with 12.04?
[18:09] <inetpro> why just contemplating when you are used to re-install 5 times a day
[18:09] <Kilos> nothing but my 160g drive is sick. thats what was causing the disk sleep thing
[18:09] <inetpro> Kilos: you sure?
[18:09] <Kilos> only have kde and maverick working
[18:10] <Kilos> yeah went to other drive and no probs at all
[18:10] <inetpro> kde and maverick?
[18:11] <Kilos> 2 drives with working 12.04 kde and this 80g with maverick on
[18:11] <inetpro> kde is not an OS
[18:11] <Kilos> ai!
[18:11] <Kilos> you know what i use man
[18:11] <Kilos> must be ubuntu
[18:11] <smile4ever> charl: Yes @ "(19:47:57) charl: smile4ever: is it still so cold in belgium too? i can't believe it is april"
[18:11] <inetpro> kde is just a de
[18:11] <Kilos> ja ja
[18:11] <smile4ever> inetpro: MATE 1.6 is awesome :D
[18:11] <inetpro> and maverick also had a kde
[18:11] <Kilos> 12.04 kde
[18:12] <smile4ever> just so nostalgic good :)
[18:12] <smile4ever> I consider using it daily
[18:12] <smile4ever> :)
[18:12] <Kilos> he is a kde man smile4ever 
[18:12] <inetpro> smile4ever: I haven't tried MATE
[18:13] <superfly> I don't need to try MATE or Cinnamon or Unity or Gnome Shell or XFCE or LXDE
[18:13] <smile4ever> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/mate-16-released-install-it-in-ubuntu.html , inetpro
[18:13] <Kilos> lol
[18:13] <smile4ever> It's just GNOME2: fast, logical and straightforward :)
[18:13] <Kilos> him and the fly are die hard kde peeps smile4ever 
[18:13]  * inetpro agrees with superfly, time is better spent on other challenges in life
[18:14] <smile4ever> Kilos: hehe :)
[18:14] <inetpro> with kubuntu everything just works
[18:14] <smile4ever> Don't like their "style" (Qt style in general)
[18:14] <Kilos> with the odd alt+shift+f12 sometimes
[18:16] <superfly> smile4ever: then make sure you steer clear of Ubuntu
[18:23] <smile4ever> superfly: hehe, Mint / Debian? ;)
[18:24] <inetpro> smile4ever: what's wrong with Qt?
[18:24] <smile4ever> It looks like 1990 :)
[18:24] <smile4ever> GTK+ looks modern
[18:24] <smile4ever> GTK+ code sucks, Qt code is great :p
[18:24] <smile4ever> Make Qt with GTK+ looks and we have a perfect gui toolkit
[18:27] <Kilos> oh superfly according to the oxford dikpensmerrie hallo and hello are english with same meanings
[18:27] <Kilos> either a call or a greeting
[18:27] <superfly> smile4ever: you can make Qt look like whatever you want, either through QSS or via an actual QStyle
[18:30] <Kilos> but the old webster adds hullo and leaves out hallo
[18:30] <smile4ever> superfly: didn't like the default Qt behaviours on all platforms :)
[18:31] <smile4ever> but everyone has a different taste :)
[18:32]  * inetpro is seldom happy with any defaults
[18:32]  * smile4ever leaves
[18:32] <smile4ever> good night
[18:32] <smile4ever> :D
[18:32] <inetpro> goeie nag smile4ever
[18:32] <Kilos> night smile4ever sleep tight
[18:34] <smile4ever> dankie! :D
[18:40] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight.
[18:44] <magespawn> good evening all
[18:46] <magespawn> superfly i got the travel plans
[18:47] <superfly> magespawn: great
[18:48] <magespawn> you are very organised
[18:53] <inetpro> magespawn: you mean him or mrs_fly_?
[18:53] <magespawn> ahh was it mrs_fly_ who did the spread sheet?
[18:53]  * inetpro wonders
[19:33] <superfly> magespawn: no, it was me
[19:48] <Squirm> evening
[19:49] <Squirm> does anyone know how to check what processor Android is running without installing an app?
[19:59] <magespawn> hey Squirm 
[20:00] <magespawn> not too sure butnusually there is something in the settings under about i think
[20:00] <magespawn> but usually
[20:02] <superfly> Squirm: gsmarena.com ?
[20:02] <Squirm> superfly: uh
[20:02] <Squirm> chinese high clone