/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/04/05/#kubuntu-devel.txt

Riddellapachelogger: phonon can now send sound to my headphones, yay :)00:12
Riddellnot by default but.. baby steps00:12
Riddellhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.200:53
smartboyhwRiddell: \o/00:54
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smartboyhwRiddell, pong:)02:11
Riddellsmartboyhw: publish this when it's out https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/13.04-beta-202:12
smartboyhwRiddell, OK02:12
Riddellthanks02:12
smartboyhwRiddell, I can't login02:14
smartboyhwDAMN02:16
smartboyhwAh got it02:16
* smartboyhw taps03:56
smartboyhwAny packaging todo?03:56
smartboyhwAnyone 'ere doing tomahawk?03:58
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 NOT yet released
smartboyhwJust to remind people04:03
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apacheloggerRiddell: what do you mean by 'not by default'?06:26
apachelogger?06:26
* smartboyhw thinks Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 will be released when Riddell wakes up...06:30
apacheloggervHanda: ping06:46
apacheloggerhm06:52
apacheloggeragateau: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/05/plasma-desktoprz2318.png those really wide lines06:52
apacheloggerScottK, Riddell: bug 116485407:13
ubottubug 1164854 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] Kubuntu Boot Artwork Update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116485407:13
smartboyhwOh the ScottK + Riddell dance again:)07:14
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smartboyhwIf Riddell has woken up by now (Probably not) he would have been surprised that it is still not released:P07:38
apacheloggerreleasing is a sign of weakness07:39
apacheloggerRiddell: afk session locking is not working for me on a new raring install07:39
smartboyhwapachelogger, can you explain why?:P07:40
apacheloggerno07:40
smartboyhw...07:40
apacheloggerwell yes07:40
apacheloggerpeople rewrite software and break it07:40
smartboyhwapachelogger, no. (At least not for this release)07:40
apacheloggeryes they did07:41
smartboyhwapachelogger, who did?07:41
apacheloggerthe new lock screen tech is new07:41
smartboyhwapachelogger, oh07:41
lordievaderGood morning07:43
shadeslayerbah, stupid news app in owncloud, doesn't even work07:43
smartboyhwshadeslayer, report bug?07:44
apacheloggergood news, it appears the debian-cd artwork changes are on a different computer that I do not have access to for like a week07:44
apachelogger-.-07:44
smartboyhwapachelogger, oh no07:44
smartboyhwlordievader, hey.07:45
lordievaderHey smartboyhw, how are you?07:47
smartboyhwlordievader, not good since Beta 2 is not released07:47
* smartboyhw points at the topic07:47
apacheloggerit would appear that https://trello.com/c/mu108rtt is out of date07:49
lordievaderBecause the active and arm images failed?07:49
smartboyhwlordievader, nah nah nah07:49
smartboyhwIt isn't OFFICIALLY releaed07:49
smartboyhws/releaed/released/07:49
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "It isn't OFFICIALLY released"07:49
smartboyhwSince the Ubuntu Release Team have to wait for the Canonical IS to update ONE single link (probably two-three though)07:49
shadeslayerheh07:50
smartboyhwDid Riddell do -l10n?07:50
smartboyhwHe did07:52
* smartboyhw marks off full tick for Raring07:52
smartboyhwUm did we add kscreen or kde-workspace-randr as recommends to quantal + precise?07:55
apacheloggerpossibly not07:57
apacheloggerseeing as I have a bug report ranting about how krandrtray disappeared07:57
smartboyhwapachelogger, I would rather let the kscreen + randr into a seperate card07:58
shadeslayerMirv: re QtCreator pulling in Qt5, I really think that's bad, what if someone has limited disk space07:58
shadeslayerfor eg. s/he is using a SSD and only wants Qt4 + QtCreator for now07:58
apacheloggersmartboyhw: then you need a checkbox for [ ] resolved krandr/kscreen situation07:58
apacheloggerthere is nothing to be gained :P07:58
smartboyhwapachelogger, uh:P07:59
apacheloggershadeslayer: they should use vim.07:59
shadeslayer...07:59
apacheloggersmartboyhw: the issue remains the same, the task remains the same, the implications on .2 packaging remain the same07:59
apacheloggerall that's changing from putting it on another card is having another card... :S08:00
smartboyhw;S08:00
agateauapachelogger: not sure what you mean with "http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/05/plasma-desktoprz2318.png those really wide lines"08:03
apacheloggeragateau: if you have a big screen the text will be insanely hard to read as you basically end up having 300 words going from one side to the other08:06
apachelogger(i.e. the exact argument people bring up when saying fixed width is better :P)08:06
agateauapachelogger: ah right08:07
agateauapachelogger: we are past ui freeze unfortunately08:07
apacheloggeryeah, just wanted to raise my concern08:07
apachelogger(IMO the people who install systems rarely read stuff properly anyway ;))08:08
shadeslayerheh08:08
agateau:)08:08
shadeslayerNext Next Next Next08:08
agateauapachelogger: but let's add it to the 13.10 Trello board08:08
agateauI already have a pending patch to redo the install|live buttons anyway08:09
* apachelogger offers http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/05/plasma-desktopNH2318.png to rdieter again :P08:09
apacheloggeragateau: about retargeted to raring+1 btw08:10
apacheloggerI do like your UI08:10
apacheloggerso IMO it's a matter of getting it into kde playground and releasing08:10
agateauapachelogger: great08:10
apachelogger:/08:18
apacheloggerI deactivate all plugisn of activitymanagerd and it still insists on using 3MiB08:18
apachelogger...08:18
exalthey, i tried to install 13.04 beta2 without swap.. it fails on 27% of system configuration08:27
exalti'm creating a live disk myself, hence the swapless install08:28
smartboyhwexalt, whoa you already downloaded it? Look at the channel topic:)08:28
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 NOT yet OFFICIALLY released
smartboyhwI should add that word...08:28
smartboyhwexalt, how does it fail?08:29
exaltsmartboyhw: the progress bar gets stuck on 27 % takes a while then freezes with everything black08:29
smartboyhwexalt, Hmm....08:29
smartboyhw!swap08:30
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info08:30
smartboyhwI don't think you need swap08:30
smartboyhwBut when the Kubuntu Testers test it clearly there is no such thing.08:30
apacheloggerhttp://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/05/plasma-desktopmY2318.png08:30
apacheloggerso little fat08:31
exaltyet the installation works with swap and not without08:31
apacheloggerincredible08:31
smartboyhwexalt, then make it with swap will be good08:31
exaltsmartboyhw: I KNOW THAT !! just wanted you guys to know it ....08:32
smartboyhwLOL08:32
smartboyhwOK08:32
apacheloggerthe way to make people know stuff is to report bugs ;)08:32
smartboyhwapachelogger, +108:33
apacheloggercurious observation08:33
apacheloggereverytime I log out, pluseaudio remains running08:34
apacheloggeras in... when I log in again I have previousCount+108:34
Mirvshadeslayer: I'm poking at it (qtcreator-qt4), I'll push it somewhere if I get something again that builds08:35
shadeslayerMirv: ah, thanks!08:36
smartboyhwHmm the email is in strangely...09:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: no beta 2 yet?09:22
smartboyhwRiddell, seeming the announcement got out just now but Daviey was asking who did it...09:23
smartboyhwI'm not sure09:23
smartboyhwAnd I am not gonna do anything until infinity tells us09:24
smartboyhwThis might be a false call....09:25
smartboyhwBut if it is it would be a disaster since the e-mail is already sent09:25
smartboyhwRiddell, basically here I got the Ubuntu Studio release announcement draft , the Ubuntu Studio website admin page on , and the Kubuntu website admin page on. :P09:31
smartboyhwNo confirmation hmm09:42
yofelRiddell: bug 116484810:01
ubottubug 1164848 in Kubuntu PPA "krandrtray missing from kde 4.10.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116484810:01
yofelI just remembered that you commented something out in startkde?10:01
yofelshadeslayer: http://kyofel2.dyndns.org/upgrade/ - I'm not sure what happened to the kubuntu test, but kubuntu-backports failed with http://paste.kde.org/716624 huh?10:05
yofeloh, and good morning everyone ;)10:05
shadeslayer0.o10:06
shadeslayerkde telepathy uploaded10:08
Riddellyofel: hmm yes10:13
shadeslayereh10:15
shadeslayerktp-desktop-applets rejected10:16
shadeslayerwtf, we're still in freeze?10:16
Riddellfrozen until release10:17
shadeslayeroh10:17
shadeslayerRiddell: care to approve ktp 0.6?10:17
shadeslayerand also upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly/+files/ktp-desktop-applets_0.6.0-0ubuntu1.dsc10:18
shadeslayer( needs minor tweaking to debian/control to make sure it depends on libktpcommoninternalprivate5 >= 0.6.0 )10:19
vHandaapachelogger: pong10:24
apacheloggervHanda: nepomuk doesn't use strigi anymore, does it?10:34
smartboyhwBah still not yet able to send announcements10:36
yofelpeople already happily download our beta2 images though ^^ (juding from the torrents)10:40
yofel*judging10:40
smartboyhwyofel, yep10:40
smartboyhwNo go 10:40
smartboyhwDaviey said no;(10:41
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: give him a hug10:42
smartboyhwTm_T, LOL (I am not gay sorry)10:42
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: huh?10:42
smartboyhwAnd aren't hugs the dholbach tradition?10:42
smartboyhwIt can't be used by others:P10:42
smartboyhwWe can only hug dholbach...10:42
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: I meant keeping the pants on while hugging, what on earth...10:43
* Tm_T shakes their head10:43
smartboyhwTm_T, what on earth!?10:43
* smartboyhw thinks Tm_T is talking about something non-good....10:43
apacheloggerTm_T: it's ancient tradition to take of one's pants while hugging10:56
smartboyhwRiddell, I think I should fix the nootka powerpc build by removing the dependency.10:59
Tm_Tsmartboyhw: there's nothing gay in hugging10:59
smartboyhwTm_T, ...11:00
Tm_Tunless you take your pants off, perhaps11:02
smartboyhwTm_T, this is the problem...11:02
* Tm_T huggles smartboyhw11:02
* smartboyhw escapes from Tm_T 11:02
smartboyhwDang the build takes quite long11:04
smartboyhws/build/upload/11:04
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Dang the upload takes quite long"11:04
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah that would be great11:05
* smartboyhw waits for his PPA11:05
smartboyhwRiddell, dget -x https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/nootka_0.8.60%7Ebeta-0ubuntu5.dsc and review:) (I only removed the dependency that's all)11:06
jussicurious. in 13.04, my message indicator cannot be clicked...11:28
smartboyhwjussi, report bug?:P11:29
jussismartboyhw: dont be a smarty pants...11:29
jussiIm looking for a confirmation from someone first, or any other thoughts11:29
debfxif anything he is smarty pantless11:42
shadeslayerjussi: oh, so you have that too11:42
shadeslayerI experienced that once yesterday11:42
jussishadeslayer: yeah, frustrating11:43
shadeslayercan you highlight me in 5 seconds?11:43
jussishadeslayer: what?11:44
shadeslayerhm weird11:44
jussishadeslayer: slightly more than 5, sorry 11:44
jussi:P11:44
shadeslayerMI doesn't have anything11:44
jussitry me now11:45
smartboyhw.........11:45
shadeslayerjussi: asdasd11:45
jussishadeslayer: frustrating11:45
shadeslayerprobably because I have colibri11:45
jussireproduceable though11:45
jussiI dont...11:45
* shadeslayer waves fist at cgroups11:45
jussithis is about asa close to stock as any normal person would be11:45
shadeslayerhighlight me again plz11:46
Riddellshadeslayer!11:48
shadeslayeryep reproducable here as well11:49
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jussishadeslayer: how do we troubleshoot? 12:01
shadeslayerno idea12:02
shadeslayeragateau: ^^12:02
Riddelljussi: message indicator probably needs to be removed anyway12:02
jussiRiddell: why?12:03
shadeslayeryofel: holy crap, you were right, my seeds have so far uploaded 4 GB's so far12:03
shadeslayerand it's only been 20 minutes12:03
shadeslayerand that's just for amd6412:03
agateaushadeslayer: that thing needs a new maintainer, or a removal12:05
shadeslayermm remove it12:05
Riddelljussi: canonical changed how it works and hasn't updated the qt side12:07
jussiRiddell: oh. I assume they will update it very soon... given their use of Qt? 12:07
jussi(perhaps I should zap someone at canonical about this? )12:08
debfxthey don't have an interest in the plasma widget though12:08
Riddellsmartboyhw: this is pretty galling, we can't announce beta 2 because canonical's web team hasn't got their act together12:15
shadeslayercomplaint in #is ? :P12:17
jussiRiddell: have you followed up on irc? 12:17
smartboyhwRiddell, yep12:17
smartboyhwDamnLO12:17
jussiif not, give me the issue number and Ill go bother them12:17
smartboyhw:P12:17
smartboyhwjussi, maybe no issue number12:17
smartboyhwIt's officially 5th April now (even by the latest timezone) and we still can't get it released12:18
jussismartboyhw: if you dont have an issue number, it aint geting done...12:18
smartboyhwFirst time it has such a proble12:18
smartboyhws/proble/problem/12:18
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "First time it has such a problem"12:18
smartboyhwjussi, I think the Ubuntu Release Team is following up12:18
smartboyhwLet me try to see if there HAS been one though12:19
smartboyhwjussi, no12:20
smartboyhwI should not have stayed up yesterday:(12:21
smartboyhwRiddell, BTW have you uploaded nootka?12:24
BluesKaj"Morning all12:24
smartboyhwRiddell, for next CC meeting (18-4-2013) I think I need to propose to the CC for them to get Canonical IS to work faster12:25
smartboyhwIt has been quite a problem to the flavours12:25
smartboyhwNot only speaking about this12:25
smartboyhwBut on other matters too.12:25
lordievaderBeta 2 still isn't offcially released?12:25
smartboyhwlordievader, NO12:26
smartboyhwIf it is I would have changed the topic and publish the announcement on kubuntu.org12:26
Mamarokso how would oen upgrade to 4.10.2? Nothing is showing up in my raring12:26
Mamarokone*12:26
shadeslayerMamarok: hasn't been uploaded yet12:27
lordievaderHmm, I see. :( Email wasn't valid then, I take?12:27
Mamarokwell, then remove that announcement12:27
shadeslayerit's in ninjas12:27
shadeslayeroh12:27
shadeslayerwait12:27
lordievadershadeslayer: Ah that explains why I can't update.12:27
* shadeslayer looks it up12:27
smartboyhwlordievader, for testing purposes next time you should enable the Ninjas PPA to do some testing for us:)12:27
* smartboyhw decides to prepare two VMs for KDE SC testing12:28
smartboyhw12:28 UTC 5/4 and no OFFICIAL release:( 12:28
Mamaroksmartboyhw: well, publishing package release that are not finished is a very bad idea, we have people with problems in #kubuntu12:28
* smartboyhw emits blood12:28
smartboyhwMamarok, I dunno12:28
smartboyhwI didn't publish12:28
shadeslayerhooray, ktp approved12:29
smartboyhwMamarok, lemme join #kubuntu12:29
Mamarokwell, somebody did, and now we have to help folks that screwed their desktop12:29
BluesKajkde 4.10.2 is running fine here so far 12:29
Mamarokbrilliant ...not :(12:29
lordievadersmartboyhw: Allright. Hmm looking in my sources I see it is not enabled. *wonders why it ain't enabled...12:29
smartboyhwlordievader, :)12:29
shadeslayerRiddell: could you also upload ktp-desktop-applets?12:30
shadeslayernot sure why that's missing from the regex12:31
Mamarokso who is responsible for the website? That announcement is still up12:32
lordievaderEnabling the ninja PPA allow me to update to 4.10.2, thanks smartboyhw, shadeslayer :)12:32
smartboyhwlordievader, :)12:32
Mamarokplease remove that and appologize to the users12:32
smartboyhwMamarok, I think the copyer need to....12:33
lordievaderMamarok: The mention of 4.10.2 being available to Raring, you mean?12:33
smartboyhwlordievader, no12:33
smartboyhwBackports12:33
smartboyhw12.1012:33
Mamaroklordievader: not only raring12:33
shadeslayerthe question is, who copied the packages and released the announcement :P12:34
smartboyhwshadeslayer, Riddell12:34
smartboyhwfor sure12:34
Mamarokit simply is not up yet, so who ever had the brilliant indea to publish that should rever that immediately12:34
Mamarokidea*12:34
smartboyhwdragon | 4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 Jonathan Riddell (13 hours ago)12:34
smartboyhwUh hum12:34
Mamarok12 hours ago!12:34
Mamarok13 even12:34
MamarokRiddell: ^^12:34
shadeslayersmartboyhw: doesn't mean he copied it12:34
shadeslayercopying is different from uploading12:34
smartboyhwshadeslayer, you mean to backports PPA or?12:34
shadeslayeryeah to the backports PPA12:35
Mamarokfolks, what needs to go is that announcement12:35
smartboyhwshadeslayer, well the packages are there12:35
Mamarokwho published that12:35
smartboyhwThe announcement is here12:35
smartboyhwMamarok, I think Riddell....12:35
smartboyhwLook at https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports12:35
Mamaroksmartboyhw: well, apparently it is not completely there yet, how else can people end up with having no desktop anymore12:36
smartboyhwAnd guys: All copying failed for 12.04.212:36
shadeslayer-.-12:36
smartboyhwCopied by yofel (for Precise) says: Cannot copy restricted files to a public archive without explicit action12:36
smartboyhwAnd I'm confirming that uploader = Riddell for quantal12:37
Mamarokthat is not really what matter, what matters is that somebody who has editing rights to the website removes that announcement, and fast12:37
smartboyhwMamarok, I have:)12:37
Mamarokelse we will end up with even bigger problems12:37
smartboyhwRiddell gave me12:37
shadeslayertrue ^^12:37
smartboyhwSo everyone: remove?12:38
shadeslayeryeah go ahead12:38
shadeslayerstuff seems to have failed to copy properly12:38
smartboyhwDONE12:38
Mamarokyes, of course, why do you even ask12:38
smartboyhwshadeslayer, Mamarok check check12:38
MamarokOK, gone12:38
smartboyhwMamarok, thanks12:38
Mamarokyou did set it to draft, right?12:38
smartboyhwNow: Investigation time12:38
Mamarokelse it has to be re-written12:39
smartboyhwMamarok, I set it to unpublished (draft yes)12:39
Mamarokgood :)12:39
lordievaderLuckily the topic of #kubuntu wasn't updated yet.12:40
smartboyhwAh I know the reason12:40
smartboyhwRiddell just uploaded a new version ~ppa2 of kde-workspace to the PPA12:40
smartboyhw25 minutes ago12:40
smartboyhwThat's the breaking point I think.12:40
smartboyhwAnd he's fixing it (supposingly)12:40
smartboyhwBut that shouldn't break systems12:41
smartboyhwSince he is just replacing randr with krandr12:41
smartboyhwOr maybe the old package disappeared and the new one can't come up12:41
smartboyhwAm I talking to thin air?12:42
lordievaderThe update to 4.10.2 from the ninjas ppa worked fine for this install of Raring. :D12:45
smartboyhwlordievader, We are talking about Quantal here I think12:46
lordievaderI know, but it wasn't available in Raring at all.12:46
smartboyhwlordievader, of course... We are in freeze and the Beta isn't released which stops everything12:47
lordievaderAh, haven't said a thing. Sorry.12:48
smartboyhwlordievader, no worries12:48
smartboyhwMamarok, has the user been using 12.04, 12.10 or 13.04?12:49
smartboyhwI think we need to get that info12:49
lordievaderHmm backlog doesn't show what version he used.12:51
smartboyhwlordievader, grrr12:51
lordievaderAnd to top things off, he seems to be idleing.. :(12:52
smartboyhwlordievader, yep12:52
vHandaapachelogger: nope. It does not12:53
vHandasorry I didn't see your message12:53
* smartboyhw bangs his keyboard12:53
smartboyhwThat topic has been staying here for hours:(12:53
smartboyhwI do think it doesn't matter now though12:54
smartboyhwWebUpd8 just made it official12:54
smartboyhwEven our Community QA guys in Vanilla thinks it official12:54
smartboyhwThe problem is: If FlameReaper is using 12.04 it will make sense12:55
smartboyhw12.10: Not12:56
snelesmartboyhw: I am using 12.04 and i have no updates to 4.10.212:57
smartboyhwsnele, makes sense12:57
snelei have been checking for updates all day :)12:57
smartboyhwSince the copying failed12:57
smartboyhw:P12:57
smartboyhw12.10 should have been copied nicely12:57
* smartboyhw suddenly remembered that yofel won't be here for the week (or I am wrong dunno)12:59
lordievaderI'll check in a second if my Quantal install has the update.12:59
smartboyhwlordievader, thanks!12:59
smartboyhwAnd tell us whether it failed.12:59
smartboyhwIf it does um..12:59
Mamaroksmartboyhw: he was upgrading, and there were no upgrades available for 13.04, so you can safely assume he is on 12.1013:00
smartboyhwMamarok, OK:)13:00
smartboyhwI think it is the problem that Riddell uploaded kde-workspace while he is upgrading.13:01
smartboyhwDunno13:01
smartboyhwThe problem is that the kde-workspace build will need to wait for 9 HOURS...13:01
smartboyhwbetter than 9 days but13:01
smartboyhwHmm Riddell DID upload nootka;P13:02
* smartboyhw checks the build13:02
smartboyhw\o/ all builds success13:03
smartboyhwWe probably can include nootka in the seeds (presuming that we need a FFe + a possible UIFe)..13:04
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lordievaderEither my mirror is outdated or there is no update for Quantal13:06
smartboyhwlordievader, you have to do apt-get update...13:07
smartboyhwI think you did though13:07
smartboyhwlordievader, weird13:07
lordievadersmartboyhw: Pre-released doesn't have to be enabled for this right?13:07
smartboyhwlordievader, pre-released what?13:07
smartboyhwlordievader, you just have to enable the PPA13:07
smartboyhwThat's it!13:07
lordievaderOh wait, seems my auto-updater is faster than I am. 4.10.2 is installed. Let's see if rebooting still works.13:08
smartboyhwlordievader, \o/13:08
lordievaderTo me it works just fine. I can login without any problems.13:10
smartboyhwlordievader, hrm13:11
smartboyhwlordievader, thanks for your report though:)13:11
lordievadersmartboyhw: No problem :) least I could do.13:12
=== smartboyhw changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: "Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 IS OFFICIALLY released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/beta-2
smartboyhw\o/13:12
lordievader\o/13:13
smartboyhwDamn the kde-workspace in the Backports PPA failed13:21
smartboyhwThe libboost...13:21
smartboyhwThe dependency is crapped13:21
smartboyhwHmm, probably I shall do a backport of libboost1.48 then13:22
smartboyhwGee I need to backport clearly13:24
smartboyhwAs it turns out: I need to upgrade the package to quantal version:P13:25
smartboyhwah no that is Precise:P13:26
smartboyhwStrange, that got copied!13:26
* smartboyhw should stop spamming the channel13:26
shadeslayersmartboyhw: don't update boost13:32
smartboyhwshadeslayer, mmm?13:32
smartboyhwI haven't done anything yet:P13:32
shadeslayer<smartboyhw> Hmm, probably I shall do a backport of libboost1.48 then13:33
shadeslayerdon't13:33
smartboyhwshadeslayer, OK13:33
yofelsmartboyhw, Mamarok: I'm here, but not really doing anything13:37
yofeland I certainly did not copy 4.10.213:37
yofelthose errors are old ones13:37
smartboyhwyofel, oh13:37
yofelI'm just too lazy to remove 200 errors in batches of 513:38
smartboyhwyofel, :O13:38
yofel(those errors are my fault, but they're old)13:38
smartboyhwyofel, OK13:38
smartboyhwI saw Riddell copied it13:38
smartboyhwSo Mamarok shadeslayer would it be wise now to republish the links?13:38
smartboyhwI mean the announcement...13:38
yofelsmartboyhw: boost 1.48 is in precise13:40
* yofel goes looking at the actual failure13:40
yofelhm13:40
yofelShowing 5 of 23513:40
yofelI thought that was less than 200...13:40
smartboyhwyofel, :P13:40
smartboyhwyofel, want me to help?13:40
smartboyhwHmm it doesn't go off:P13:41
yofelmeh, I'll clean up the errors after all13:42
yofelthis new package copy interface sucks :S13:42
yofelnah, it's remove 5, reload, repeat....13:42
yofelsmartboyhw: actually, could you? My wifi connection is really crappy today and dies every few minutes :S13:42
yofelremove all errors related to 4.10.113:42
smartboyhwyofel, OK:S13:42
yofelthen we should get the new ones13:42
smartboyhwyofel, actually I found the new ones already13:43
smartboyhwI am waiting shadeslayer or Mamarok to tell me to get back the 4.10.2 announcement on.13:43
yofeleeeeek13:43
* Riddell back13:43
Riddellwhat did I miss?13:44
yofelRiddell uploaded to backports with low urgency :(13:44
smartboyhwRiddell, erm some bit of 12.10 problems:P13:44
smartboyhwRiddell, they (Mamarok + shadeslayer ) told me to took off the 4.10.2 announcement for now13:44
smartboyhwand Beta 2 is OFFICIALLY released:)13:45
smartboyhwI published that13:45
smartboyhwRiddell, would it be possible to include nootka in the seeds?13:45
yofelI need to make a wiki with DO's and DON'T's for our PPA's13:45
smartboyhwyofel, +113:45
yofelsmartboyhw: what for? (nootka)13:46
smartboyhwyofel, audio?....13:46
smartboyhwmusic apps (do we include these)?13:46
yofelsmartboyhw: what does it do that amarok doesn't?13:46
smartboyhwMaybe I should take it to Studio....13:46
yofelunless you mean the supported seed13:46
smartboyhwyofel, what's the supported seed?13:46
* smartboyhw doesn't know about ALL the seeds13:47
yofela list with packages that are supported, for upload permissions13:47
smartboyhwyofel, maybe good:)13:47
yofelah ok, kde-workspace failed in precise13:47
yofelso that's not an issue13:47
smartboyhwyofel, yep13:48
yofelquantal is building, so that should be fixed soonish13:48
smartboyhwWait a minute, I did saw a copy fail for 4.10.213:48
smartboyhwdamn I removed it....13:49
smartboyhwRiddell, clearly some applications for 4.10.2 didn't make it to the Backports PPA13:49
smartboyhwI think that error is OK though13:49
smartboyhwIt just means that the binaries are already there and you shouldn't copy13:49
yofelprecise was not copied13:50
yofelfrom what I see13:50
smartboyhwyofel, Precise isn't copy......13:50
Riddellsmartboyhw: why do you want nookta in the seeds?13:51
yofel:S13:51
smartboyhwRiddell, to let people have some touch with music?13:51
yofelquantal is only partly copied13:51
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&batch=20013:51
smartboyhwI shouldn't have proposed it here though, Ubuntu Studio will be better13:52
yofellet me copy this again13:52
smartboyhwYep:(13:52
yofelsynchronised this time. Those async copies are just error prone13:52
smartboyhwyofel, \o/13:53
yofeldone14:01
smartboyhw\o/14:01
yofelkdegraphics-thumbnailers - 4:4.10.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu12.10~ppa1 14:13
yofelo.O14:13
smartboyhwyofel, o.O14:13
yofelwas never backported14:14
yofelI guess launchpad error'd when the script was running14:14
yofelprecise has missing stuff too14:15
yofelso that needs fixing before it gets published14:15
yofelI'm gone for a while14:22
yofelit would be good if some ninja could backport the missing packages for quantal and precise. You'll see what's missing by looking for 4.10.1:14:22
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=raring&batch=15014:22
yofeler, not raring -.-14:22
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=quantal&batch=25014:23
yofelhttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.series_filter=precise&batch=25014:23
yofelI'll look at publishing precise after that's fixed later14:23
smartboyhw_yofel, Riddell shadeslayer do you want the 4.10.2 announcement back?15:37
smartboyhw_Anyway gotcha sleep, just find Riddell if you want the announcement back...15:40
Riddelllaunchpad keeps breaking on pull-ppa-source :(16:26
Riddellmight have to do the 4.10.2 stuff manually for raring16:26
Riddellprobably same thing caused missed uploads in backports16:27
shadeslayeraha! so it's not just me16:27
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
yofelRiddell: it should be the same issue. I made pull-ppa-source try a bit harder, but launchpad is seriously bad reliability-wise lately20:05
* Darkwing wimpers20:53
DarkwingI don't know what I did...20:53
RiddellDarkwing: um, did you do anything?20:53
Darkwingupgraded form 10.04 to 10.10 and this happened... http://paste.kde.org/717026/20:54
DarkwingMuon doesn't want to work and It's borked quite a bit.20:54
Riddell10.10?  what year is this?20:55
Riddellapt-get upgrade shouldn't ever be used, certainly not for a version upgrade20:56
Darkwing12.1020:58
Darkwingand AFTER the upgrade when I was updating everything that happened.20:58
DarkwingSo, after I did the upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 that happened.20:59
Darkwingand I'm a bit lost.20:59
Riddellmm, me too, does look like python is a bit broken there21:00
Riddellbat your eyelids at ScottK, he's good with python21:00
* Darkwing pokes ScottK21:01
Riddelldoes google say anything?21:02
DarkwingI spent time pouring over google. Nothing I could decypher21:03
yofeltried debsums as I said?21:04
yofelotherwise look for some debpython/option.py file somewhere21:04
DarkwingI'm sorry yofel I missed that...21:04
yofeldpkg -S should tell you21:04
yofelcan check whether the content of that file is sensible21:05
yofel*then check21:06
* Darkwing sighs21:06
Riddellyofel: should be the rest of 4.10.2 uploaded to backports now21:06
DarkwingThis is what debsums -S gave me. http://paste.kde.org/717038/21:07
DarkwingSomething is major broke. I can't even install a new program21:08
yofelRiddell: for quantal yes once that's ready21:14
yofelRiddell: as for precise first copy the kde-workspace upload you did to ninjas so it *builds*, then copy everything over21:14
=== mydogsnameisrudy is now known as monkeyjuice
yofelDarkwing: something looks seriously broken with your python installation21:46
yofelDarkwing: possibly try to pull the debsums deb from launchpad or archive and force it in 21:47
yofelRiddell: wrt https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/4470999 - can it be that you backported akonadi without changing the boost version?21:55
yofelonce that's fixed the rest of the missing packages should be uploaded there, then someone should test whether at least the dependencies are correct, after that feel free to publish it21:58
yofelI won't be online till tomorrow evening, so don't count on me fixing something21:59
* yofel is off to bed - good night21:59
Riddellbug 116409323:08
Riddell"The Ubuntu X team would like to push mesa 9.1.1 for raring."23:08
Riddellwe should probably test that23:08

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