| GrueMaster | Ok, just installed 12.04 server on a vm. After getting to a login and running "apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade", when I try "apt-get install oem-config" it tries to install the KDE stack (347 packages). Not the gtk stack, just the kde stack. | 00:35 |
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| GrueMaster | Something is pulling in ubiquity-frontend-kde (which wants the rest I would assume). | 00:36 |
| GrueMaster | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5678383/ | 00:45 |
| * GrueMaster is out for the day. | 00:49 | |
| xnox | GrueMaster: as we said. "apt-get-install oem-config" is not enough, you want "apt-get install ubiquity-frontend-debconf oem-config-debconf oem-config" instead. There is no way to sanely specify alternatives, thus one must list the desired frontend first. | 08:52 |
| GrueMaster | Ok, so that works around the dependency issue. Now to work around the real problem. | 15:50 |
| xnox | yeap. We "expected it to just workâ˘" | 16:01 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: If it "just worked", do you honestly think I would be asking questions here?? Please try to remember that I was doing QA for Ubuntu on Arm for 3 years before being booted due to office politics above my pay grade. | 16:09 |
| xnox | Sorry, it was a joke. I understand that you are hitting a bug in oem-config-debconf, which frankly is not tested that well. | 16:10 |
| GrueMaster | That I am aware of (and part of the reason I am no longer at Canonical). | 16:11 |
| GrueMaster | But I really do not want to go down that path. What I need is a solution. | 16:12 |
| GrueMaster | Currently I am staring at a screen full of init output and no oem-config. This is in a kvm session after doing a server install, logging in, then installing oem-config (as listed above) and running oem-config-prepare and rebooting. | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | I'll try to post a screenshot somewhere. | 16:18 |
| GrueMaster | http://members.dsl-only.net/~tdavis/Ubuntu-server-post-oem-config.png | 16:21 |
| GrueMaster | Will try on bare hardware soon (hopefully in the next hour or so). | 16:21 |
| simosx | is there a Ubiquity developer here? We have a critical bug that affects 13.04. | 16:21 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: hm. I'd install the VM differently, let me test here something. | 16:22 |
| xnox | simosx: post a bug number? | 16:22 |
| simosx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1158750 | 16:22 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1158750 in ubiquity "Ubiquity does not create correct UTF-8 locales" [High,Confirmed] | 16:22 |
| simosx | The solution should be very simple, just append ".UTF-8" to the generated locale. | 16:23 |
| simosx | With this bug, LibreOffice crashes on start. Other apps do not work. | 16:23 |
| GrueMaster | How would you install the VM differently??? The purpoose of this install was to test the ability to run oem-config after installation and system modification. The later part cannot be automated via preseed. | 16:24 |
| simosx | The problem happens when you install Ubuntu with the default English locale, but if you are located in another country (such as Greece), then through geoip/timezone, the installer sets the "el_GR" locale as well. | 16:26 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: not install oem-config manually, but instead let the installer put it in place. I'm running an installation here at the moment. Might take 10minutes or so. | 16:26 |
| simosx | And it's "el_GR" instead of "el_GR.UTF-8". | 16:26 |
| simosx | that is, 8-bit character set and all the problems that come from that. | 16:26 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: That won't work for this situation. I need to install and build our test environemt (which includes kernel modules) and run it on the test hardware prior to configuring the system for shipping to customers. | 16:28 |
| GrueMaster | In otherwords, I cannot just do an install and ship. | 16:29 |
| simosx | xnox, how can I assign the bug to someone from the Ubuntu Installer team? | 16:29 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: one gets a root account & allowed to boot and customize system many times. Before shipping, one needs to touch a magic file and then the next boot will be expected to be done by the customer. | 16:30 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: it's a two step installation. | 16:30 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: That has never been my experience with the server installs when selecting oem-config during install. Next reboot it prompts for user info. | 16:31 |
| GrueMaster | And the "magic file" is /var/lib/oem-config/run (which is created by oem-config-prepare). | 16:32 |
| xnox | well it did work correctly on the alternate cd installs during quantal cycle which should be very similar. | 16:32 |
| xnox | anyway testing at the moment with a raring cd. | 16:33 |
| GrueMaster | sigh. Can't use Raring. requirements here are for LTS releases only. | 16:34 |
| GrueMaster | And I am trying really hard to push for Ubuntu first. Just not getting very far. | 16:34 |
| xnox | sure, sure. I'm just making sure it works with raring (if it does great, if precise doesn't behave the same way i have somewhere to cherry pick a fix from). If it doesn't even work with raring, then there will be some extra digging required. | 16:35 |
| GrueMaster | Makes sense. | 16:36 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: and alas, it fails to boot with grub not finding it's modules. *sigh* | 16:37 |
| eliasps | The bug that simosx reported creates a bug issue on Ubuntu GNOME 13.04 (which will be official). | 16:38 |
| eliasps | The problem with the locales affects datemenu.js file and gdm nor gnome-shell are able to load. | 16:38 |
| xnox | bug 1165092 | 16:59 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1165092 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "oem-config fails with ubuntu-server images" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165092 | 16:59 |
| xnox | GrueMaster: broken in raring in a similar manner. | 16:59 |
| xnox | ogra_: how does oem-config manage to work at all with debconf frontend in e.g. precise/server/panda images? | 17:00 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: Give me a sec, I can look at jasper-initramfs and figure it out. Just need to remote into my home system (which is currently processing updates). | 17:25 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: Ok, jasper does the following: | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | mkdir -p /root/var/lib/oem-config | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | touch /root/var/lib/oem-config/run | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | That's all. | 18:13 |
| GrueMaster | This is from the preinstalled images (panda, beagle, etc). | 18:14 |
| xnox | hm..... but panda/beagle/etc all have a single serial/known tty to boot to. With typical intel server it's grub & vt handovers. (e.g. on first boot in the vm I had to manually switch to tty1) | 18:16 |
| GrueMaster | xnox: I have to image a new system this afternoon, so will also be able to test again on bare hw (which is my main focus for this). I'll try to post the python errors I saw earlier. | 18:36 |
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