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Noskcajbug 116434305:46
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1164343 could not be found05:46
dholbachgood morning06:35
jibelgood morning06:38
smartboyhwhello dholbach06:47
dholbachhi smartboyhw06:47
pittiGood morning07:06
jibelbonjour pitti07:11
pittibonjour jibel, ça va ?07:12
jibelpitti, très bien et toi? apart from your adventure with your landline phone ;)07:13
pittijibel: un petite fatigue, mais je vais bien07:15
pittiI'm glad that the psql stuff went well, so back to writing network test cases :)07:15
smartboyhwHmm 7:15 GMT now. Hopefully we will get Beta 2 in 3 hours:)07:21
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smartboyhwballoons, pong back me whenever you are available.11:33
pittijibel: uh, lots of armhf autopkgtest failures12:28
pittijibel: but it's great to have them running now, merci beaucoup!12:29
jibelpitti, de rien :) I quickly walked through the failures and was wondering if some (most?) of them are due to container limitations, like restrictions on /dev12:31
pittiyeah, I figure things like gvfs or udisks won't have much chance there12:31
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balloonssmartboyhw, allo12:49
smartboyhwballoons, hello.12:49
smartboyhwWe are discussing for the possibility of maintaining Testdrive ourselves12:50
balloonswho is "we"?12:50
smartboyhwballoons, me + Noskcaj12:50
smartboyhwourselves = QA Team12:50
smartboyhwballoons, :)12:51
balloonsok, well.. you should start by trying to fix some bugs :-)12:52
balloonsthings that are important to you12:52
smartboyhwballoons, well you should try first:P12:52
smartboyhwballoons, after you try I try12:53
smartboyhwballoons, yep. You try first12:58
smartboyhwSee how difficult it is for you:P12:58
smartboyhwballoons, fix the 2-row bug12:58
pittiballoons: oh, we have a meeting now, don't we?13:08
balloonspitti, :-)13:08
balloonsjoin us13:08
balloonsif you wish13:09
smartboyhwphillw, run your script! It is released!13:20
smartboyhwballoons, if you may remove that "Raring final Beta Testing" please:P13:20
smartboyhwballoons, and don't forget to DEPO13:20
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phillwsmartboyhw: it's not 'my' script, such matters are looked after by someone far more intelligent than myself :P13:40
smartboyhwphillw, .....13:40
smartboyhwAnyways phillw it is released and we are all happy:)13:40
smartboyhwTell your testers:)13:40
balloonsxnox, I hear you have some ubiquity automated tests I didn' t know about.. I'm curious to learn :-)13:45
pittijibel: did you happen to use run-adt-test/prepare-testbed with a proxy somewhere?13:57
pittijibel: I wonder how much effort it would be to make prepare-testbed create an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy file, so that it can be used with apt-cacher-ng13:58
jibelpitti, yes, in the lab.13:58
jibelpitti, not too much effort, could you file a bug against auto-package-testing and assign it to me so I don't forget?13:59
pittijibel: will do; not a biggie14:00
pittijibel: it already exists, I made an additional comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/104221714:04
ubot5Launchpad bug 1042217 in Auto Package Testing "Configure proxy in testbed" [Medium,Triaged]14:04
jibelpitti, and I reported it :)14:05
cprofitthello... I have a strange 'bug' that I am not sure how to report14:40
cprofittI need to do more testing after work today, but advice would be appreciated14:40
cprofittit is a Lenovo T500... and the Ethernet does not work on battery14:41
cprofittthis is under 13.04... under 12.10 it does not have this issue14:42
balloonscprofitt, ohh.. under battery only?14:42
balloonspowersaving of some sort?14:42
cprofittcould be, but it is nothing I have setup14:42
cprofittand does not appear to be bios related from what I can tell14:43
cprofitt12.10 works on battery, but 13.04 does not14:43
cprofittI am on power 99% of the time so had not noticed it until last night when I worked on a customers issue14:43
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balloonsyou might need to mess about with different kernels to see if that's where the regression lies14:45
* cprofitt nods14:45
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cprofittany specific commands to run to gather the necessary information14:46
cprofittifconfig still shows the ethernet as being there, but it does not work14:46
balloonscprofitt, well yea, some debugging as to what's going on might help14:46
balloonsfor instance, plugged in, connect to ethernet14:47
balloonsthen unplug.. do you lose connection?14:47
cprofittNo, I do not lose connection if it was plugged in and I remove power14:47
balloonswhat appears in the syslog14:47
cprofittonly if I start the laptop up w/o power14:47
balloonsahh ok.. so if you boot without power, and then add in power can you connect?14:48
balloonsI would be interested in your logs no matter what.. they should reveal somethng about what's going on14:48
balloonsfingers crossed, haha14:48
cprofittyes, if I add power the Ehternet starts to work14:48
cprofittwhich logs should I collect?14:49
cprofittah... syslog14:49
balloonssee the filing a bug report part14:49
balloonsalso, try the boot options :-)14:49
jibelpitti, apt proxy support in r165. set APTPROXY in ~/.adtrc to your local proxy address.16:23
pittijibel: wow, thanks!16:25
pittiah, or in ~/.adtrc, perfect16:25
pittijibel: that's the IP as seen from the client, I guess16:25
pittijibel: i. e. not, but
jibelpitti, right, IP from the client (, on my home net) or hostname if it's resolvable on your network16:27
jibel+ port of course16:27
pittioh wow, that actually works16:27
pitti$ host donald16:27
pittidonald has address
pittidonald has IPv6 address fe80::224:d7ff:fe20:b47016:27
pittiah, I guess it asks the hosts' dnsmasq16:28
pittiyay for a local DNS server16:28
pittibut I guess should always work16:28
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jtaylorcan one get the install log from this: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-scipy-armhf/ARCH=armhf,label=adt&&arm/5/artifact/results/summary.log18:00
jtaylorthe log only shows package failed to install, but no further messages18:00
jtayloroh wait, I know why it failed18:01
jtaylorI guess we'll have to live with that failure, as autopkgtest does not support versions it certainly won't support arch qualifications18:02
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jtaylorI guess it would make sense for autopkgtest to skip tests a dependency excludes an arch18:15
jtayloralterntive would be add a arch field to dep8 test syntax18:15
jtaylorwhich is probably overkill18:15
jtaylorI'll file a bug18:16
jtaylorbug 116512818:21
ubot5bug 1165128 in autopkgtest (Ubuntu) "skip tests where a dependency limits architecture" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116512818:21
SergioMeneseshi guys! maybe this will be interesting http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2013/04/05/about-ubuntu-13-04-cdsdvds/19:18
balloonsSergioMeneses, LTS's are really becoming focused more and more19:19
SergioMenesesballoons, sure!19:20
SergioMenesesballoons, and I am agree about it19:20
SergioMenesesdo you?19:20
balloonsyes, very much19:20
* SergioMeneses hugs balloons 19:20
balloonsmy post about rolling release is my viewpoints on it19:20
balloonsin short, I'd like to base everything about "stable" being LTS's with timely updates delivered19:21
balloonsthen just a rolling development release.. I'll always be on dev, so in some ways I'm already rolling.. but it would be easier to just avoid the need for the interim releases as much19:22
balloonsat any rate.. interesting to see more and more focus19:22
balloonsand man.. I can't wait for 14.04!19:22
SergioMenesesballoons, 14.04? really? jejeje I think you have time enough to play with soemthing more19:25
balloonslol.. yes, but it's the next lts19:25
balloonsand like every lts, it will be a culmination of change19:25
SergioMenesesballoons, sure!19:26
SergioMenesesbut let me say something, ubuntu 13.04 is beautiful , the design, icons, everything is perfect19:27
SergioMenesesI'm using 13.04 beta19:27
SergioMenesesbut it looks awesome19:27
balloonsyes :-)19:27
balloonsupgrade go ok then I guess?19:27
SergioMenesesyes, an upgrade19:28
SergioMenesesI can make a total install, not now19:28
Letozaf_balloons, Hi19:33
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, o/19:34
balloonsLetozaf_, hello19:34
Letozaf_balloons, I'm carrying out some laptop tests, I have a doubt on a test can I ask you ?19:35
balloonssure, go for it19:35
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, Ursinha hi19:35
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, what?19:35
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Letozaf_balloons, well I am testing the USB ports and when you attach a music player, for instance19:36
Letozaf_balloons, the testcase says that a suggestion box should ask you to open Rhythmbox19:36
balloonsahh yes19:36
Letozaf_balloons, but instead19:36
balloonsif you have autolaunche preferences19:37
Letozaf_balloons, the suggestion box ask me what to do19:37
Letozaf_balloons, so shouldn't the testcase be modified ?19:37
Letozaf_balloons, I mean someone could think that its a bug19:37
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, maybe is an old testcase19:38
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, could be19:38
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, do you have the link?19:38
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, Case ID: hiu-00219:39
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, balloons I have Raring just installed and so I think that the default behavior is to ask what to do and not ask to open Rhythmbox19:40
balloonswant to propose a commit to modify the cases?19:43
balloonsin general, the test is really just for a prompt19:44
balloonsbut only if you have autolaunch on19:44
Letozaf_balloons, that's why I was asking to know witch it the right one, I think that a newbie testing could think he found a bug if the testcase is not clear19:45
balloonsLetozaf_, absolutely19:45
balloonsthe test has to be clear19:45
balloonsso under system details, removable media19:46
balloonsthat controls things19:46
SergioMenesesI write that testcase =/19:46
balloonsdepending on the settings, your pc will react differently19:46
Letozaf_balloons, yes, that's the point19:47
balloonsso.. the idea behind the test is connectivity right..19:47
Letozaf_balloons, maybe we should just write that depending on your settings, you can get 2 different behaviours19:47
balloonsso you should be able to see usb disks when you mount them19:47
balloonsso perhaps we change the test altogether19:47
balloonsto verify the fact that the usb disk automatically mounts19:48
balloonsmake sense?19:48
balloonsin other words, we don't care if rythmnbox works in this case.. we actually have a test for that :-)  So just want to make sure the testcase stays clear19:49
Letozaf_balloons, SergioMeneses I think the testcase is ok, we just need to point out that you can have different behavior depending on your settings19:50
Letozaf_balloons, SergioMeneses what do you think ?19:50
balloonsI didn't want to make it a testcase for the removable media settings :-)19:51
SergioMenesesballoons, ++19:51
SergioMenesesbut we can add a note or commentary about it19:51
Letozaf_balloons, SergioMeneses ok fine19:51
balloonsit's really just testing usb stuff.. I'm thinking have people plug in usb items19:51
balloonskeyboards, mouse, pendrive, camera, etc19:51
balloonshave people try there usb devices and make sure they work properlu19:52
Letozaf_balloons, yes I think you are right19:52
balloonsthen you can list out some of those things.. aka, can you see the files on your pendrive, can you play music on your mp3 player.. does the mouse work, keyboard?19:52
balloonsnetwork usb adapter, etc, etc19:52
Letozaf_balloons, sounds good!19:53
balloonsdon't forget you can use the smoke testing format for this19:53
balloonskk.. back in a few19:54
Letozaf_balloons, SergioMeneses so who's gonna do this, I mean if SergioMeneses wants to for me it-s fine, if not I will, it's the same for me, you decide19:55
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, if you want to, I have a lot of things to do :S lococouncil things19:57
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, balloons ok so I will :D19:57
SergioMenesesLetozaf_, if you need an opinion, advice or soemthing feel free to pm me19:58
Letozaf_SergioMeneses, thank you :)19:58
SergioMenesesbtw balloons cprofitt what happen with ubuntu-friendly?  news or something20:01
balloonsSergioMeneses, cprofitt et la are working on getting UF working without needing lp20:35
balloonsso the profiles show up properly.. and if they don't they can know why ;-)20:35
Noskcajbecause most of you didn't see howards suggestion, Why don't we make testdrive maintained by the QA team?21:15
Noskcajballoons, haven't we finished testing beta 2? can you change it's status to "release"21:16
balloonsNoskcaj, I don't change those statuses :-)21:17
balloonsthe release team decides that, but yes I agree..21:17
balloonsit's weird to see the status not be set to released21:18
Noskcajand aren't a new set of dailies meant to be out?21:18
balloonsNoskcaj, they are doing a lot of archive cleanup today21:23
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phillwballoons: give stgraber a very gentle poke in the ribs, setting it to 'released' will have been an oversight as we were a bit later than planned in getting the beta 2's out :)22:05
balloonsphillw, not everything is marked22:41
phillwballoons: look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds everything wasn't marked there, either. It's just a flag :)22:43
SergioMenesesok guys! see you tomorrow, take care23:46

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