[05:46] <Noskcaj> bug 1164343
[06:35] <dholbach> good morning
[06:38] <jibel> good morning
[06:47] <smartboyhw> hello dholbach
[06:47] <dholbach> hi smartboyhw
[07:06] <pitti> Good morning
[07:11] <jibel> bonjour pitti
[07:12] <pitti> bonjour jibel, ça va ?
[07:13] <jibel> pitti, très bien et toi? apart from your adventure with your landline phone ;)
[07:15] <pitti> jibel: un petite fatigue, mais je vais bien
[07:15] <pitti> I'm glad that the psql stuff went well, so back to writing network test cases :)
[07:21] <smartboyhw> Hmm 7:15 GMT now. Hopefully we will get Beta 2 in 3 hours:)
[11:33] <smartboyhw> balloons, pong back me whenever you are available.
[12:28] <pitti> jibel: uh, lots of armhf autopkgtest failures
[12:29] <pitti> jibel: but it's great to have them running now, merci beaucoup!
[12:31] <jibel> pitti, de rien :) I quickly walked through the failures and was wondering if some (most?) of them are due to container limitations, like restrictions on /dev
[12:31] <pitti> yeah, I figure things like gvfs or udisks won't have much chance there
[12:49] <balloons> smartboyhw, allo
[12:49] <smartboyhw> balloons, hello.
[12:50] <smartboyhw> We are discussing for the possibility of maintaining Testdrive ourselves
[12:50] <balloons> who is "we"?
[12:50] <smartboyhw> balloons, me + Noskcaj
[12:50] <smartboyhw> ourselves = QA Team
[12:51] <balloons> ahh
[12:51] <balloons> :-)
[12:51] <smartboyhw> balloons, :)
[12:52] <balloons> ok, well.. you should start by trying to fix some bugs :-)
[12:52] <balloons> things that are important to you
[12:52] <smartboyhw> balloons, well you should try first:P
[12:53] <smartboyhw> balloons, after you try I try
[12:57] <balloons> lol
[12:58] <smartboyhw> balloons, yep. You try first
[12:58] <smartboyhw> See how difficult it is for you:P
[12:58] <smartboyhw> balloons, fix the 2-row bug
[13:08] <pitti> balloons: oh, we have a meeting now, don't we?
[13:08] <balloons> pitti, :-)
[13:08] <balloons> join us
[13:09] <balloons> if you wish
[13:20] <smartboyhw> phillw, run your script! It is released!
[13:20] <smartboyhw> balloons, if you may remove that "Raring final Beta Testing" please:P
[13:20] <balloons> :-)
[13:20] <smartboyhw> balloons, and don't forget to DEPO
[13:21] <smartboyhw> s/DEPO/DEOP/
[13:40] <phillw> smartboyhw: it's not 'my' script, such matters are looked after by someone far more intelligent than myself :P
[13:40] <smartboyhw> phillw, .....
[13:40] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Anyways phillw it is released and we are all happy:)
[13:40] <smartboyhw> Tell your testers:)
[13:45] <balloons> xnox, I hear you have some ubiquity automated tests I didn' t know about.. I'm curious to learn :-)
[13:57] <pitti> jibel: did you happen to use run-adt-test/prepare-testbed with a proxy somewhere?
[13:58] <pitti> jibel: I wonder how much effort it would be to make prepare-testbed create an /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy file, so that it can be used with apt-cacher-ng
[13:58] <jibel> pitti, yes, in the lab.
[13:59] <jibel> pitti, not too much effort, could you file a bug against auto-package-testing and assign it to me so I don't forget?
[14:00] <pitti> jibel: will do; not a biggie
[14:00] <jibel> thanks
[14:04] <pitti> jibel: it already exists, I made an additional comment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/auto-package-testing/+bug/1042217
[14:05] <jibel> pitti, and I reported it :)
[14:40] <cprofitt> hello... I have a strange 'bug' that I am not sure how to report
[14:40] <cprofitt> I need to do more testing after work today, but advice would be appreciated
[14:41] <cprofitt> it is a Lenovo T500... and the Ethernet does not work on battery
[14:42] <cprofitt> this is under 13.04... under 12.10 it does not have this issue
[14:42] <balloons> cprofitt, ohh.. under battery only?
[14:42] <cprofitt> yep
[14:42] <balloons> powersaving of some sort?
[14:42] <cprofitt> could be, but it is nothing I have setup
[14:43] <cprofitt> and does not appear to be bios related from what I can tell
[14:43] <cprofitt> 12.10 works on battery, but 13.04 does not
[14:43] <cprofitt> I am on power 99% of the time so had not noticed it until last night when I worked on a customers issue
[14:45] <balloons> you might need to mess about with different kernels to see if that's where the regression lies
[14:45]  * cprofitt nods
[14:46] <cprofitt> any specific commands to run to gather the necessary information
[14:46] <cprofitt> ifconfig still shows the ethernet as being there, but it does not work
[14:46] <balloons> cprofitt, well yea, some debugging as to what's going on might help
[14:47] <balloons> for instance, plugged in, connect to ethernet
[14:47] <balloons> then unplug.. do you lose connection?
[14:47] <cprofitt> No, I do not lose connection if it was plugged in and I remove power
[14:47] <balloons> what appears in the syslog
[14:47] <cprofitt> only if I start the laptop up w/o power
[14:48] <balloons> ahh ok.. so if you boot without power, and then add in power can you connect?
[14:48] <balloons> I would be interested in your logs no matter what.. they should reveal somethng about what's going on
[14:48] <balloons> fingers crossed, haha
[14:48] <cprofitt> yes
[14:48] <cprofitt> yes, if I add power the Ehternet starts to work
[14:49] <cprofitt> which logs should I collect?
[14:49] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI
[14:49] <cprofitt> ah... syslog
[14:49] <cprofitt> ok...
[14:49] <balloons> see the filing a bug report part
[14:49] <balloons> also, try the boot options :-)
[14:54] <cprofitt> thanks
[14:59] <balloons> yw
[16:23] <jibel> pitti, apt proxy support in r165. set APTPROXY in ~/.adtrc to your local proxy address.
[16:25] <pitti> jibel: wow, thanks!
[16:25] <pitti> ah, or in ~/.adtrc, perfect
[16:25] <pitti> jibel: that's the IP as seen from the client, I guess
[16:25] <pitti> jibel: i. e. not 127.0.0.1, but 10.0.2.2
[16:27] <jibel> pitti, right, IP from the client (10.0.2.2, 192.168.1.4:3128 on my home net) or hostname if it's resolvable on your network
[16:27] <jibel> + port of course
[16:27] <pitti> oh wow, that actually works
[16:27] <pitti> $ host donald
[16:27] <pitti> donald has address 192.168.2.100
[16:27] <pitti> donald has IPv6 address fe80::224:d7ff:fe20:b470
[16:28] <pitti> ah, I guess it asks the hosts' dnsmasq
[16:28] <pitti> yay for a local DNS server
[16:28] <pitti> but I guess 10.0.2.2 should always work
[18:00] <jtaylor> can one get the install log from this: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Raring/view/AutoPkgTest/job/raring-adt-python-scipy-armhf/ARCH=armhf,label=adt&&arm/5/artifact/results/summary.log
[18:00] <jtaylor> the log only shows package failed to install, but no further messages
[18:01] <jtaylor> oh wait, I know why it failed
[18:02] <jtaylor> I guess we'll have to live with that failure, as autopkgtest does not support versions it certainly won't support arch qualifications
[18:02] <balloons> hmm
[18:15] <jtaylor> I guess it would make sense for autopkgtest to skip tests a dependency excludes an arch
[18:15] <jtaylor> alterntive would be add a arch field to dep8 test syntax
[18:15] <jtaylor> which is probably overkill
[18:16] <jtaylor> I'll file a bug
[18:21] <jtaylor> bug 1165128
[19:18] <SergioMeneses> hi guys! maybe this will be interesting http://lococouncil.ubuntu.com/2013/04/05/about-ubuntu-13-04-cdsdvds/
[19:19] <balloons> SergioMeneses, LTS's are really becoming focused more and more
[19:20] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure!
[19:20] <SergioMeneses> balloons, and I am agree about it
[19:20] <SergioMeneses> do you?
[19:20] <balloons> yes, very much
[19:20]  * SergioMeneses hugs balloons 
[19:20] <balloons> my post about rolling release is my viewpoints on it
[19:21] <balloons> in short, I'd like to base everything about "stable" being LTS's with timely updates delivered
[19:22] <balloons> then just a rolling development release.. I'll always be on dev, so in some ways I'm already rolling.. but it would be easier to just avoid the need for the interim releases as much
[19:22] <balloons> at any rate.. interesting to see more and more focus
[19:22] <balloons> and man.. I can't wait for 14.04!
[19:25] <SergioMeneses> balloons, 14.04? really? jejeje I think you have time enough to play with soemthing more
[19:25] <balloons> lol.. yes, but it's the next lts
[19:25] <balloons> and like every lts, it will be a culmination of change
[19:26] <SergioMeneses> balloons, sure!
[19:27] <SergioMeneses> but let me say something, ubuntu 13.04 is beautiful , the design, icons, everything is perfect
[19:27] <SergioMeneses> I'm using 13.04 beta
[19:27] <SergioMeneses> but it looks awesome
[19:27] <balloons> yes :-)
[19:27] <balloons> upgrade go ok then I guess?
[19:28] <SergioMeneses> yes, an upgrade
[19:28] <SergioMeneses> I can make a total install, not now
[19:28] <SergioMeneses> can't
[19:33] <Letozaf_> balloons, Hi
[19:34] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, o/
[19:34] <balloons> Letozaf_, hello
[19:35] <Letozaf_> balloons, I'm carrying out some laptop tests, I have a doubt on a test can I ask you ?
[19:35] <balloons> sure, go for it
[19:35] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, Ursinha hi
[19:35] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, what?
[19:36] <Letozaf_> balloons, well I am testing the USB ports and when you attach a music player, for instance
[19:36] <Letozaf_> balloons, the testcase says that a suggestion box should ask you to open Rhythmbox
[19:36] <balloons> ahh yes
[19:36] <Letozaf_> balloons, but instead
[19:37] <balloons> if you have autolaunche preferences
[19:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, the suggestion box ask me what to do
[19:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, so shouldn't the testcase be modified ?
[19:37] <Letozaf_> balloons, I mean someone could think that its a bug
[19:38] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, maybe is an old testcase
[19:38] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, could be
[19:38] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, do you have the link?
[19:39] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses,http://laptop.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1476/info
[19:39] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, Case ID: hiu-002
[19:40] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, balloons I have Raring just installed and so I think that the default behavior is to ask what to do and not ask to open Rhythmbox
[19:43] <balloons> want to propose a commit to modify the cases?
[19:44] <balloons> in general, the test is really just for a prompt
[19:44] <balloons> but only if you have autolaunch on
[19:45] <Letozaf_> balloons, that's why I was asking to know witch it the right one, I think that a newbie testing could think he found a bug if the testcase is not clear
[19:45] <balloons> Letozaf_, absolutely
[19:45] <balloons> the test has to be clear
[19:46] <balloons> so under system details, removable media
[19:46] <SergioMeneses> mmmm
[19:46] <balloons> that controls things
[19:46] <SergioMeneses> I write that testcase =/
[19:46] <balloons> depending on the settings, your pc will react differently
[19:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes, that's the point
[19:47] <SergioMeneses> *wrote
[19:47] <balloons> so.. the idea behind the test is connectivity right..
[19:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, maybe we should just write that depending on your settings, you can get 2 different behaviours
[19:47] <balloons> so you should be able to see usb disks when you mount them
[19:47] <balloons> so perhaps we change the test altogether
[19:48] <balloons> to verify the fact that the usb disk automatically mounts
[19:48] <balloons> make sense?
[19:49] <balloons> in other words, we don't care if rythmnbox works in this case.. we actually have a test for that :-)  So just want to make sure the testcase stays clear
[19:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, SergioMeneses I think the testcase is ok, we just need to point out that you can have different behavior depending on your settings
[19:50] <Letozaf_> balloons, SergioMeneses what do you think ?
[19:51] <balloons> I didn't want to make it a testcase for the removable media settings :-)
[19:51] <SergioMeneses> balloons, ++
[19:51] <SergioMeneses> but we can add a note or commentary about it
[19:51] <Letozaf_> balloons, SergioMeneses ok fine
[19:51] <balloons> it's really just testing usb stuff.. I'm thinking have people plug in usb items
[19:51] <balloons> keyboards, mouse, pendrive, camera, etc
[19:52] <balloons> headphones:-)
[19:52] <balloons> have people try there usb devices and make sure they work properlu
[19:52] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes I think you are right
[19:52] <balloons> then you can list out some of those things.. aka, can you see the files on your pendrive, can you play music on your mp3 player.. does the mouse work, keyboard?
[19:52] <balloons> network usb adapter, etc, etc
[19:53] <Letozaf_> balloons, sounds good!
[19:53] <balloons> don't forget you can use the smoke testing format for this
[19:54] <balloons> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/TestCaseFormat
[19:54] <balloons> kk.. back in a few
[19:55] <Letozaf_> balloons, SergioMeneses so who's gonna do this, I mean if SergioMeneses wants to for me it-s fine, if not I will, it's the same for me, you decide
[19:57] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, if you want to, I have a lot of things to do :S lococouncil things
[19:57] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, balloons ok so I will :D
[19:58] <SergioMeneses> Letozaf_, if you need an opinion, advice or soemthing feel free to pm me
[19:58] <Letozaf_> SergioMeneses, thank you :)
[20:01] <SergioMeneses> btw balloons cprofitt what happen with ubuntu-friendly?  news or something
[20:35] <balloons> SergioMeneses, cprofitt et la are working on getting UF working without needing lp
[20:35] <balloons> so the profiles show up properly.. and if they don't they can know why ;-)
[21:15] <Noskcaj> because most of you didn't see howards suggestion, Why don't we make testdrive maintained by the QA team?
[21:16] <Noskcaj> balloons, haven't we finished testing beta 2? can you change it's status to "release"
[21:17] <balloons> Noskcaj, I don't change those statuses :-)
[21:17] <balloons> the release team decides that, but yes I agree..
[21:18] <balloons> it's weird to see the status not be set to released
[21:18] <Noskcaj> yeah
[21:18] <Noskcaj> and aren't a new set of dailies meant to be out?
[21:23] <balloons> Noskcaj, they are doing a lot of archive cleanup today
[22:05] <phillw> balloons: give stgraber a very gentle poke in the ribs, setting it to 'released' will have been an oversight as we were a bit later than planned in getting the beta 2's out :)
[22:41] <balloons> phillw, not everything is marked
[22:43] <phillw> balloons: look at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds everything wasn't marked there, either. It's just a flag :)
[23:46] <SergioMeneses> ok guys! see you tomorrow, take care