[00:01] <Quest> sarnold,  any clues
[00:02] <sarnold> Quest: it's hard to debug a problem without any idea of what commands you ran or what errors you got. :)
[00:03] <Quest> just says general error. error mounting hardisk
[00:03] <Quest> iam installing by live cd
[02:56] <acidflash> hello
[02:57] <acidflash> i have a pci-express ssd that i installed into my server yesterday, and i can see it in lspci, but i cant see it in fdisk, can someone point me in the right direction as to how to get this ssd viewable in fdisk?
[02:58] <sarnold> acidflash: does it show up with a device name in dmesg?
[02:58] <sarnold> acidflash: does fdisk just not read the partition table or do you not even know how to get fdisk to talk to that specific drive?
[02:59] <acidflash> sarnold: the entire drive doesnt show up in fdisk, im checking dmesg for any signs of life
[02:59] <sarnold> acidflash: dang, unreadable partitions might have been easier. :) grep for 'sd' or 'hdd' or something...
[03:00] <acidflash> [    2.232470] scsi 15:0:0:0: Processor         Marvell  91xx Config      1.01 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[03:00] <acidflash> [    2.232596] scsi 15:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 3
[03:00] <acidflash> im fairly certain thats it.
[03:00] <sarnold> but sg3 is the closest you get? hrm. :(
[03:01] <sarnold> that's way out of my experience, good luck :)
[03:02] <acidflash> hehe, thanks
[03:02] <acidflash> sarnold: all other ssd's show up with the after the areca raid controller, this is the only thing other then onboard devices which show up before the areca raid controller, makes me pretty sure its it,
[03:03] <acidflash> 3 hdd's, then this, then areca controller, then the rest of my ssds
[03:06] <sarnold> hrm, I do'nt see anything in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/scsi/ that looks like it'd fit the bill either.
[03:07] <sarnold> acidflash_: hrm, I do'nt see anything in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/scsi/ that looks like it'd fit the bill either.
[03:07] <acidflash_> i se
[03:09] <sarnold> good luck :)
[03:09] <acidflash> i think i should be looking for mvsas
[03:09] <acidflash> thank you
[03:23] <ashley_w> i built a vm using vmbuilder, and now i have a qemu qcow image, but i'm not sure what to do with it. i've built a couple of other VMs using virt-install
[03:37] <zul> adam_g: ill take a look tomorrow
[03:37] <zul> hallyn_:  gah?
[05:29] <adam_g> zul, this is causing the failures: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/keystone/grizzly/revision/181  it was passing before because we weren't shipping the sql backend enabled by default. with it the default, we need to create a test db and overrides for the test suite
[05:30] <adam_g> zul, or we can only test the kvs backend at build time but default to sql on installation, i prefer to test sql though
[07:13] <pii3> what is the minimum hardware requirment for ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10 server ? specially for disk and ram ?
[07:22] <smb> Daviey, when you are around, how far did the ffe handling for raring xen get?
[07:39] <Daviey> smb: hey.  I couldn't quite work out if XiongZhang (xiong-y-zhang)  was concerned about the TSC change?
[07:40] <smb> Daviey, Let me read the report again, but I belive it was more me not finding the support bit because the user-space tool I used was lying...
[07:40] <Daviey> ah!
[07:41] <smb> Yeah, I think it was that
[07:41] <smb> Basically I had a machine supporting tsc offset (at least after I installed the upgrade) but cpuid is not telling the truth for cpuid[7]
[07:43] <Daviey> smb: approved.. please progress :)
[07:43] <Daviey> (Thanks!)
[07:44] <smb> Daviey, If that means upload... hey could you sponsor the source package I prepared. :)
[07:56] <Daviey> smb: sure
[08:25] <caraconan> Hi there. Can somebody please provide to me the URL to install ubuntu server from internet? I have (I think) the one to install desktop version, which is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/installer-amd64/
[08:30] <caraconan> Nobody? The url that I pasted is the right one?
[08:30] <Daviey> caraconan: that is the correct one
[08:30] <Daviey> mini.iso covers all flavours
 But maybe I'm missing something, but I can't see in any place the option to choose ubuntu server
[08:32] <caraconan> How will this end up installing the flavour that I want?
[10:14] <Walther> Okay, completely stupid question. I have a new server here with 128GB of ram and only 2x146GB (-> 146GB after raid) for the host install. Ubuntu server wants to grab >130GB for *swap partition* when I try to configure LVM
[10:14] <Walther> Obviously there will be more disk space afterwards for virtual servers etc, but those will be in ZFS pools and configured later
[10:15] <Walther> the partitioner in the ubuntu installer doesn't seem to allow changing the swap partition size
[10:16] <xnox> Walther: sounds about right. You should use manual partitioning, it does allow to "autopartition using lvm" and then delete/resize swap.
[10:16] <xnox> Walther: unfortunately the rule of thumb SWAP ~= RAM doesn't work well these days where it can be the case that RAM >> HDD space
[10:17] <Walther> mmh. However it seems that if I now go to manual partitioning, the lvm volume groups etc have already been written to disk -> it doesn't allow me to properly modify them, even if I "go back" in the installer
[10:19] <Walther> so how do I go about to "just blank the disk / ignore partition tables and start again" in the installer?
[10:31] <Walther> Er, how can I shrink the lvm swap partition in the installer?
[10:33] <xnox> Walther: enter manual partitioning -> delete swap -> enter lvm submenu -> delete swap volume.
[10:33] <xnox> Walther: the create a new volume.
[10:34] <xnox> Walther: none of it is written to disk, but it does preserve / show the model. Or reboot =)
[10:36] <Walther> ahh, now i got it. the menu is a bit backwards
[10:36] <Walther> (and yeah, perhaps something should be done to that swap ≃ ram thing
[10:36] <Walther> at least in server installs, the partitioner could be smarter)
[11:03] <wwoo> hello, I want to update mysql on my ubuntu VPS to version 5.6. How do I do that? Is there a command? Can I just run installation?..
[11:04] <wwoo> I don't want to loose any data though
[11:39] <shadeslayer> hi, does anyone have any ideas on how to limit mysql mem consumption by using cgroups?
[12:36] <Daviey> smb: Your build FTBFS.. mce.c:150:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault .. erk
[12:37] <Daviey> I've hit retry.
[12:37] <smb> Daviey, ok. I am pretty sure I did do a test sbuild
[12:38] <Daviey> smb: well this is i386.. so not sure i care much about that :)
[12:38] <smb> Daviey, Hm, probably only did one on 64bit but still...
[12:41] <smb> Daviey, Started a local 32bit build as well. If the failure persists we should let the compiler people know
[12:41] <Daviey> smb: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen/4.2.1-0ubuntu2/+build/4469971
[12:42] <_BAMbanda> on setup, i accidentally skipped over all the various options such as lamp server, ssh server, dns, etc...
[12:42] <_BAMbanda> how can I bring that up again
[12:42] <Nafallo> tasksel
[12:42] <_BAMbanda> thats the command?
[12:43] <Nafallo> maybe. I'm not fond of doing it that way myself.
[12:45] <smb> It is the command and actually brings up the selection screen
[12:45] <Daviey> smb: same error
[12:46] <smb> Daviey, Bugger, ok I will look into it
[12:47] <hallyn_> zul: yeah, gah.  libvirt is requiring mem-balloon in .xml for domxml-tonative qemu-argv to work, and i don't see why yet.
[12:47] <zul> thats dumb
[12:49] <hallyn_> yup
[12:55] <zul> yolanda: ping https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/2013.1/+merge/157348
[12:59] <yolanda> done
[13:10] <zul> thanks
[15:06] <ftpd> Hi guys. Is there a problem with installing Ubuntu on disks/partitions larger than 3 TB? I'm trying to install 12.04.2 from .iso on a remote dell iDrac machines. On machine with 6 x 600 GB RAID5 it works, on 8 x 900 GB or 8 x 480 SSD still (also with raid5) fails with grub's error 'out of disk'.
[15:07] <ftpd> It worked once, when I've used 'guided partitioning'. When I'm trying to use just one big partition (as customer wants) without swap, it fails. I'm creating 'bootdisk' partition 1.0 MB 'large', as installer wants, but still nothing.
[15:28] <maswan> ftpd: Nope, we always slice out a fairly small raid volume for OS and keep the large data volume separate
[15:39] <ftpd> maswan, I would do that, but my customer just 'wants' to have one big partition. But I think I'll slice it and he'll have to deal with it ;-)
[16:01] <xro> Hi, i'm looking for a cheap cloud to interface with JUJU... Do you know one?
[16:04] <xro> nobody knows cheap cloud ?
[16:05] <utlemming> xro: HPCloud and EC2 are the two with Juju support
[16:05] <utlemming> or you can use the local provider against LXC
[16:06] <xro> utlemming, you can't say amazone s cheap! 600$ a year per small vm...
[16:08] <utlemming> xro: well, short of finding an openstack cloud with API access that is in beta, you aren't going to find both cheap and Juju support. However,  I cheap is in the eye of the beholder. 600$/year isn't that bad considering the infrastructrue you're getting.
[16:09] <xro> utlemming, i though about building my openstack cloud... but it's really expensive
[16:10] <xro> utlemming, 600$ per year is cheap or expensive depending of the use
[16:10] <utlemming> xro: if you have a spare machine (albeit beefy) you can look at DevStack. That'll run on commidity hardware
[16:10] <xro> and of the client
[16:10] <tgm4883> utlemming, he wants to sell managed services
[16:14] <xro> tgm4883, i try to do a business plan
[16:23] <alimj1> Hi. I have a question with iptables. I want people who connect to my box through PPTP to have some specific port redirection. I am a little bit new to iptables
[16:24] <alimj1> current role is: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.4.0/24 -o eth0  -j MASQUERADE
[16:25] <alimj1> I want ALL incoming TCP PPTP connection to be redirected to 127.0.0.1:9040
[16:25] <alimj1> I managed to configure it with two Network Adapters and NAT. However, It does not work with PPTP connections
[16:27] <alimj1> The role that works for NAT is: iptables -t nat -A INPUT ! -o lo ! -d 192.168.0.0/16 -s 192.168.0/24 -p tcp -m tcp -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9040
[16:28] <alimj1> Forget the above line, it is for local redirection
[16:59] <Quest> whats the recomended one for package for NX (like freeNX) to share full desktop with mouse, keyboard events where the server can be on linux ubuntu and the client may be either linux or windows?
[17:00] <genii-around> Server edition doesn't come with a desktop to share.
[17:37] <adam_g> zul, did you say you got keystone building?
[17:37] <zul> adam_g:  almost
[17:37] <zul> i thought i did but it still errors out
[17:39] <adam_g> zul, might work if you just set all backends to kvs in the test_overrides.conf
[17:40] <zul> adam_g: ill try that next
[17:41] <adam_g> zul, you need to specify all of them explicitly or they'll default to sql (which the keystone.conf.sample specifies)
[17:42] <zul> adam_g:  they are all kvs
[17:43] <adam_g> zul, what is your test_overrides.conf ?
[17:44] <zul> adam_g: the default one in debian/tests
[17:45] <zul> wait never mind i suck
[17:46] <adam_g> zul, theres a bunch of other backends that doesnt address, which the tests will configure to use what is set in keystone.conf.sample. we patch that file to specify sql for all of them, so unless they're overridden in test_overrides.conf, you'll be testing sql
[17:49] <zul> adam_g: gotcha
[17:51] <flickorfly> Is there a command to list the current applicable security updates for a server without all the rest on teh latest LTS?
[17:51] <flickorfly> I usude to grep apt-get upgrade -s, but they don't seem to be differentiated from any other updates anymore.
[17:52] <sarnold> flickorfly: if you remove 'updates' from your sources.list (or have a different sources.list for answering this question) you'll get just the security updates
[17:53] <flickorfly> no way to just do it on the fly?
[17:54] <sarnold> I've not tried the new configuration file msyelf, but presumably it'd be a simple little shell script, function, or alias, to use the different configuration..
[17:56] <flickorfly> yeah, I'm basically supposed to be auditing systems so I avoid making changes without approval. That's why I'm attempting not to do something like that.
[17:56] <flickorfly> I guess I could point apt at a sources.list in my home dir though
[17:56] <flickorfly> I'm sure there is an option to specify a config
[17:59] <sarnold> flickorfly: apt.conf(5) mentions a "sourcelist" configuration option, maybe just -oDir::Etc::Sourcelist=~/audit.list ,,,
[17:59] <flickorfly> sweet, thanks
[18:01] <rbasak> Just make sure that you've run apt-get update recently and that audit.list is a subset of sources.list. Otherwise I'm think you might get a silently invalid result.
[18:03] <flickorfly> rbasak, I did " grep security /etc/apt/sources.list > sources.list" so that should meet your subset requirement right?
[18:04] <rbasak> flickorfly: yeah that should be fine. Assuming you have security lines in /etc/apt/sources.list already that aren't commented out :)
[18:10] <flickorfly> lol, yeah, It's good. Appreciate you attention to detail though
[18:14] <Quest> iam following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX . at step 5. it says Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[18:14] <Quest> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies:freenx : Depends: freenx-smb but it is not going to be installe E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:15] <flickorfly> Thanks sarnold and rbasak. It's working great. (but now 157 security updates... looks like I'll be coming back ot this customer.)
[18:16] <sarnold> flickorfly: oof. :)
[18:17] <flickorfly> it'll keep me out of managing windows systems so I'm happy
[18:57] <bkerensa> pmatulis: are you still the serverguide POC?
[18:58] <pmatulis> bkerensa: yeah, but i've been sleepy this cycle in terms of actually doing anything
[18:58] <bkerensa> pmatulis: ok I just got a simple pending merge I hoped to land for raring if possible
[18:58] <pmatulis> bkerensa: link?
[18:58] <bkerensa> https://code.launchpad.net/~bkerensa/serverguide/fix-for-1165007/+merge/157459
[19:07] <resno> hey can you suggest any books?
[19:07] <resno> im trying to learn a bit more about sys admining etc
[19:12] <bkerensa> resno: Essential System Administration (O'Reilly)
[19:13] <resno> thanks bkerensa
[19:19] <flickorfly> resno, Rute Users Guide is another good one.
[19:22] <resno> heh, i like one of the opening statements
[19:22] <resno> flickorfly: ^
[19:22] <resno> I Get Frustrated with UNIX Documentation
[19:22] <resno> That I Don't Understand
[19:23] <zul> adam_g:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/horizon/2013.1/+merge/157464
[19:32] <cereal> so i'm having a hard time tracking down the cause of a system freeze on my server :(  did memtest for hours, added some additional air cooling, and when it happens its not overly taxed
[19:32] <cereal> all it has is a single kvm guest running moderate load, suggestions on where to look next?
[19:35] <zul> adam_g:  one more https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/ceilometer/2013.1/+merge/157467
[19:37] <hallyn_> zul: well as long as i'm wasting *this* much time on libvirt 1.0.4, maybe i can also get past the annoying gnutls compilation bug
[19:37] <zul> hallyn_:  hehe
[19:38] <zul> hallyn_:  feel the love
[19:45] <Quest> is it easy to get the password of a sudoer if the system harddisk is given to someone?
[19:48] <maswan> yes, if it is a weak password
[19:54] <Quest> ignore bruteforce
[20:13] <patdk-lap> Quest, heh?
[20:13] <patdk-lap> there is only two things
[20:13] <patdk-lap> what kind of hashing was used
[20:13] <Quest> ok?
[20:13] <patdk-lap> and how long brute force or rainbow tables would take
[20:13] <Quest> hm
[20:14] <Quest> how about i just replace the /etc/shadows file with my own?
[20:14] <Quest> it will change the passwords?
[20:14] <patdk-lap> yes
[20:14] <patdk-lap> just make sure the old cope on the disk is wiped
[20:14] <patdk-lap> or it might be able to be recovered
[20:14] <Quest> hm
[20:14] <Quest> great
[20:14] <Quest> thanks
[20:33] <kaje> I have screwed up my pam settings somehow and now users can log in by typing any password. Here are my pam files: http://pastebin.com/yrmtQPJL
[20:33] <kaje> I should have said, users can ssh in.
[20:34] <kaje> If someone tries to connect with an unknown user, it rejects them. If they try to ssh with a known user, any password they enter will work.
[20:49] <Quest> while updating . i got W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/quantal/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found.    i cannot install freenx. any solution?
[20:50] <patdk-lap> quest, dunno, that isn't part of ubuntu
[20:52] <Quest> what can i do
[20:52] <Pici> !crosspost
[20:58] <soren> kaje: You've commented out pam_deny in common-auth.
[20:58] <soren> kaje: That's probably why.
[20:59] <kaje> Yeah, that was my REALLY dumb mistake. I thought pam-auth-config was going to overwrite that.
[20:59] <kaje> Thanks very much
[21:17] <soren> kaje: No problem.
[21:34] <Praxi> I'm trying to change the ownership of a drive, specifically /dev/mapper/sdk  I do a sudo chown bacula /dev/mapper/sdk and it doesn't change the owner.  I did some googling and come up with a possible fstab issue, but, I checked that and nothing in there.  Any ideas?
[21:35] <sarnold> Praxi: what's ls -l /dev/mapper/sdk look like?
[21:36] <Praxi> rebooting the server real quick, be up in just a second
[21:38] <Praxi> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr  5 14:37 /dev/mapper/sdf -> ../dm-2
[21:38] <Praxi> this is an autofs usb drive
[21:39] <sarnold> Praxi: aha :) that's just a symbolic link. do you really want to change the ownership of a symlink?
[21:39] <Praxi> no just the drive :)
[21:40] <sarnold> aha :) how about ls -l /dev/dm-2 ?
[21:41] <Praxi> there we go, lets see if that fixed my problem
[21:41] <Praxi> thanks sarnold
[21:41] <sarnold> :)
[21:43] <Praxi> ok that was the issue, lets see if I get further now lol
[22:32] <irv> my /boot partition seems to be 100% full and only 226mb or so
[22:32] <irv> is this a problem?
[22:32] <sarnold> irv: it'll be a problem next kernel upgrade..
[22:32] <irv> ya it's failing
[22:33] <irv> how could this have happened?
[22:33] <sarnold> old kernels are not automatically removed
[22:33] <irv> and i guess during setup it only makes it large enough to just fit the one?
[22:33] <irv> any way to automagically clear up some old ones so i can update?
[22:34] <sarnold> irv: check dpkg -l linux-image* | grep ^ii   to find the installed kernel packages
[22:34] <sarnold> irv: check uname -r to find the currently running kernel
[22:35] <sarnold> you probably won't want to remove the package corresponding to the currently running kernel, since any new required modules will be missing..
[22:36] <sarnold> irv: as for the default size, I don't think the installer creates a /boot by default. It'll let you make one, of course..
[22:36] <sarnold> 226 would seem plenty to me :)
[22:37] <irv> okay i have 8 installed
[22:38] <irv> so just manually remove the ones i'm not using
[22:39] <irv> well that's certainly not working ahah
[22:39] <irv> i try to uninstall linux-image-3.2.0-29-generic
[22:39] <irv> currently using 3.2.0-37-generic
[22:40] <irv> it says i have unmet dependencies, and to run apt-get -f install
[22:40] <irv> but when i do, it fails due to no space to extract
[22:40] <irv> D:
[22:42] <sarnold> irv: try to remove with dpkg --purge, not apt-get purge ..