[03:16] <snap-l> http://i.imgur.com/mI3jt3i.jpg
[12:42] <rick_h_> morning
[12:51] <brousch> gah
[12:51] <rick_h_> that good eh?
[13:01] <brousch> heh, seems legit https://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/screenshot-19.png
[13:16] <jrwren> i wrote python yesterday.
[13:16] <jrwren> crazy eh?
[13:16] <rick_h_> woot
[13:17] <rick_h_> and you still have both eyes in place?
[13:17] <jrwren> oh yes.
[13:17] <rick_h_> yay
[13:17] <jrwren> its not terrible most of the time.
[13:17] <jrwren> I think the number of gripes is about on par with other great languages like C#
[13:46] <jcastro> greg-g: we'll be there for some server sprint stuff
[14:02] <jrwren> what is a good lightweight timer even library? gevent seems big to pull to just fire events every hour
[14:18] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:19] <snap-l> jrwren: Which language?
[14:19] <snap-l> http://docs.python.org/2/library/sched.html
[14:20] <jrwren> python
[14:20] <jrwren> oh, sched? what is this? wrapper around sigalrm I hope
[14:20] <snap-l> Likely
[14:20] <snap-l> I think it uses whatever is available on the target OS
[14:21] <jrwren> thanks.
[14:21] <jrwren> i only target linux :)
[14:21] <snap-l> Actually, it's a while loop
[14:22] <jrwren> seriously?
[14:22] <snap-l> Seriously
[14:22] <jrwren> threading.timer it is!
[14:23] <brousch> cron!
[14:23] <jrwren> avoiding cron
[14:23] <snap-l> Honestly, if it's something you want to have happen on the hour or something like that, you might want to consider cron
[14:24] <jrwren> yup, considered it.
[14:24] <jrwren> i'm no nub
[14:24] <snap-l> kk. :)
[14:24] <snap-l> I've seen people avoid cron, only ro reimplement it poorly. :)
[14:25] <jrwren> i wont be reimpl
[14:25] <jrwren> and I wont have to lock to prevent concurrent execs
[14:29] <snap-l> http://stackoverflow.com/a/384493/535883
[14:29] <snap-l> :)
[14:36] <jrwren> i don't want that either.
[14:36] <jrwren> 8 lines of code that i wont need
[14:38] <jrwren> besides, updating the definition of a module variable from out of process doesn't sound easy to me.
[14:39] <snap-l> That's what sed is for. ;)
[14:40] <snap-l> Also, is this going to be a long-running process? That might have it's own bit of fun if the machine goes down.
[14:40] <snap-l> or the process tanks.
[14:41] <jrwren> lol, sed would be sweet.
[14:42] <jrwren> does sed work on /proc/*/mem ?
[14:42] <jrwren> not sure what you mean or what a long running process would make a difference.
[14:42] <snap-l> I don't see why sed wouldn't work if there was a filesystem analogue there. :)
[14:43] <snap-l> jrwren: Does persistence matter if someone pulled the plug on the machine, or if the system crashes?
[14:45] <jrwren> ah, right.
[14:45] <jrwren> nope, i write with chaos monkey in mind :)
[15:30] <greg-g> jcastro: ah, I thought it may have been an ODS, but that's in Portland (just discovered)
[17:26] <snap-l> No DVDs for 13.04
[17:26] <snap-l> I think that's a very smart move
[17:26] <snap-l> honestly, they were worthless once the new release came out
[17:26] <snap-l> I still have stacks of 12.10 discs
[17:27] <snap-l> They're getting released into the wild at the release party.
[17:27] <greg-g> yeah, I felt bad throwing away so many CDs over the years of being LoCo contact ;)
[17:27] <snap-l> I've been fortunate to not have to throw out a disc
[17:28] <snap-l> but I have just left them on the freebie table at Penguicon
[17:28] <snap-l> fortunately they seem to have found homes
[17:28] <snap-l> even if it was for someone's art project or for skeet. :)
[17:28] <greg-g> good deal, you're a better pusher than I
[17:28] <snap-l> greg-g: More a litterbug. ;)
[17:28] <greg-g> both
[17:28] <snap-l> ;)
[17:37] <brousch> snap-l: You sent them to me, you bastard :P
[17:37] <brousch> I have a frickin box full
[17:38] <snap-l> Think of it like delegation. :)
[17:40] <snap-l> meeting this weekend, BTW: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/514/detail/
[18:29] <snap-l> I think I'm getting lectured on how the Creative Commons works in the Creative Commons Metal Community that I created.
[18:30] <greg-g> snap-l: you've made it
[18:30] <snap-l> https://plus.google.com/u/0/106429198406662182216/posts/8FHNjLw4nFj?cfem=1
[18:32] <_stink_> haha
[18:32] <greg-g> nice, he was trying to be helpful
[18:32] <snap-l> Yeah, I understand. ;)
[18:33] <snap-l> But still, I had to do a double-take. :)
[18:33] <greg-g> and odd, I can't visually tell that this discussion was "happening" "within" the OMC group
[18:33] <greg-g> I see "Cr..." linked at the top, but have to hover over it to see the group name, and that's the only place it is displayed?
[18:34] <snap-l> Yeah, apparently.
[18:34] <greg-g> oh g+