[05:31] hi superfly and others [06:34] hi magespawn [06:53] hi Kilos [06:56] morning all [06:57] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:57] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [07:00] hi henkj [07:02] hi kilos [07:06] hi Kilos [07:06] good morning y'all [07:12] 'ello [07:20] hi Vince-0 [07:21] môre inetpro [07:32] Hii [07:34] morning [07:45] yo Squirm [07:50] oooh [07:50] skiing time [07:55] nice, cold but nice [07:55] sun's out [07:55] but yes, cold [07:55] snowed on the berg night before last [07:55] have not seen that much snow for a very long time [07:55] last skii before winter :/ [07:56] i would have thought you could do more skiing in winter [07:56] magespawn: where you now? [07:56] lol [07:56] water skiing [07:56] :/ [07:56] hluhluwe [07:56] ahh right [07:56] lol [07:56] oh, thought you may have been up this way [07:59] bbl [07:59] :-o [08:00] i just my life insurance renewal notice, and i realised that it still lists me as a smoker. i quit in mid-2010 already! :'( [08:00] :P [08:00] lol [08:00] i accidentally a word :-/ [08:00] ai! [08:00] oh yes, bbl [08:01] enjoy Squirm [08:11] ThatGraemeGuy: still not smoking, well done! You must be the only one... :-( [08:11] yeah pretty much [08:12] maybe Sully too [08:12] but the rest quit quitting :) [08:12] Indeed [08:36] hi Tonberry [08:36] hallo [09:30] goeie more Kilos, and others [09:30] dga boetie [09:30] dag ook === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:17] hi Trixar_za [10:17] Hey Kilos [10:19] hey Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [10:31] Kilos you still enjoying KDE? [10:31] yip and maverick magespawn [10:31] chicken to put unity on the maverick drive === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [10:36] i wish i understood more of how things work [10:37] like with an external or stick plugged in 10.10 can right click and format it. [10:37] is it possible to get that function working on 12.04 [10:38] not sure [10:38] i am still learning my way around kde [10:38] methinks that will be the dev guys that know that [10:38] i never really used unity that much [10:39] even on kde it would be nice to have [10:39] i dont fancy all the partition manager and disk utilities and things [10:42] ohi psyatw [10:44] hi Kilos [10:47] hey psyatw [10:49] hi magespawn [11:27] kde takes some getting used to hey magespawn ? [11:27] hehe [11:32] Kilos, I am finishing my papers for getting hired in Poland starting one month from now [11:32] so that's why I'm away from the computer and the chat for now [11:32] great. everything seems to take so long hey [11:32] yeah [11:32] np. once you are there you will have internet all the time [11:32] this has been going for three weeks now, but at least I'll have a job soon [11:33] of course [11:33] and I can finally be here all the time, even if I'm not able to talk when I'm at work [11:33] oh did you read the mail that maia posted for photos or postcards from you guys all over the world [11:33] ? [11:34] oh, I haven't read much mail lately unfortunately [11:34] I will give you my picture soon, maybe even a postcard from here in the Netherlands and soon Poland [11:35] or her, I mean [11:35] she i starting a collection of all the ubuntu guys worldwide or something [11:35] yeah, it's a really cool initiative [11:37] im not sure if its just guys on our mailing list or not [11:37] never remember what i read [11:38] I've been too focused on finding a job for the past few months and finishing what I have to do here to read mailing lists, but I'll try to catch up soon [11:38] cool === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [12:23] hi theblazehen [12:23] hi Kilos [12:25] hi SmilyBorg_w [12:33] hey there === SmilyBorg_w is now known as SmilyBorg [13:55] guya i am stuck here, how do i change the size of the icons in a panel on kde? [14:01] oh [14:01] settings [14:01] um [14:01] second one from the top left i think [14:01] or is that unity [14:01] lemme boot from kde quick magespawn [14:05] hmm.. you still here magespawn [14:05] helloooooo [14:05] hey kilos [14:05] cooowweeeeee [14:06] hehe [14:06] system settings [14:06] top left the second one then fonts [14:06] and then ? [14:06] then you will see lotsa things on the tight [14:07] choose they are called [14:07] click on choose and tick on the size you want in the popup [14:08] Kilos i am looking to adjust the size of the icons in the panel [14:08] what is the panel? [14:09] the start bar [14:09] that bottom bar thing? [14:09] yes [14:09] one of those settings makes it all bigger in the panel [14:09] maybe toolbar [14:09] yes how to make it smaller? [14:10] wow how big is it? [14:10] like half my screen [14:10] wow [14:10] what did you do? [14:10] mines like 5mm [14:10] don't know or i would simple reverse it [14:11] the bar itself is not the problem, the icons in it are [14:11] is that bar really half your screen? [14:11] 1/3 [14:12] the smaller the bar the smaller the icons [14:12] no [14:12] wait now they are resizing hold on [14:13] kde you have to tick apply with everything [14:13] bottom right [14:14] of that window you working in of course [14:14] plasma desktop just crashed [14:14] crashed gone? [14:15] yup [14:15] oh my no text mode or anything? [14:15] restarted itself, busy submitting the crsh report now [14:16] before closing down do sudo touch /forcefsck and it should clean up on reboot [14:16] no, blank screen [14:16] no need, the desktop retarted itself [14:17] i see it seems to do a short fsck on its own every reboot [14:17] fsck is for disk problems, hopefully this is not one of those [14:17] if you kill the boot splash you can see what its doing on boot [14:18] no man [14:18] file system checker [14:18] ahh well [14:18] what was wierd here was i would resize the panel, but the icons would stay big [14:19] even after you tick apply? [14:20] yup looked very strange [14:20] wow [14:21] seems fine now though [14:22] weird [14:23] maybe had something to do with a full hard drive again [14:23] very small drive only 20gig [14:24] how did you fill it? [14:24] and did you look at the details in the crash report [14:25] data recovery again [14:26] something caused a segmentation fault [14:27] pc just hung [14:27] pulled modem and it revived [14:27] first time any probs on this kde [14:28] its bad stuff coming from the net somewhere methinks [14:30] one of billy's paid anti linux hackers [14:30] here is a paste of the crash report details http://slexy.org/view/s218ttjJTc [14:31] you need someone like the fly or the weed to look at that [14:32] or do you understand all that? [14:33] no clue what it means [14:34] plasma desktop tends to die on me every once in a while [14:34] usually it auto restarts [14:34] or you can manually run it with alt-f2 [14:36] ty Tonberry [14:38] maybe it needs some updating. i just did a reinstall with muon and it fetched a meg even though everything is supposed to be up to date [14:40] i will check that as soon as the crash report is done [14:40] busy getting some debug symbols [14:51] do you use muon magespawn ? [14:51] yes [14:51] the kde synaptic [15:06] wow magespawn i typed plasma in muon and ticked all the stuff installed to reinstall and it wants to fetch another 105m [15:07] so somewhere apt-get is slipping up [15:09] 67m is kde wallpapers i see [15:09] but they showed as installed [15:10] grrr [15:11] maybe there are new ones [15:13] anyway i am off home, chat later [15:14] ok === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [16:19] hi georgelappies [16:19] hi Kilos [16:19] welcome to ubuntu-za [16:19] thanks :) [16:19] have you been here before? [16:20] nope, first time. Only seen the link now on distrowatch to http://ubuntu-za.org/ and from there the irc link [16:21] ah our advertising is bad i think [16:22] with the lappies bit you must be south african hey? [16:22] ja I am South African, from Secunda in Mpumalanga actually [16:23] ah. and you are using ubuntu? [16:23] which flavour? [16:23] yeah, been using it for a while, since 8.04 actually :) [16:23] Ubuntu, Unity [16:24] great so you come to teach and help others [16:24] lol [16:24] lol [16:24] started using Linux in about 1998 with SuSE 7.0 ] [16:25] wow you a ballie in the game [16:25] lol, I presume you are also from SA [16:26] this is our community help channel. so if you know of peeps that need linux help tell them about us [16:26] yeah im in pta [16:26] but im the one that needs the most help normally [16:27] we have dev guys here and python experts and all kinds [16:27] cool, will do so. Which flavour are you running? [16:27] that's cool [16:28] at the moment 12.04 kubuntu. but also use 10.10 and fight with unity [16:28] you need to join our mailing list [16:28] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [16:28] Kubuntu is nice, but for some reason every KDE based distro freezes my laptop [16:29] i prefered gnome2 but what choice do we have [16:30] thats why i still have 10.10 on one drive [16:30] started happening around Kubuntu 12.04, 11.10 still worked fine, but something inside kwin or the kdelibs changed in KDE between those two version. And now, I am guaranteed a lockup with arcade game bootup screen flickering within 10 minutes :( [16:31] ouch. maybe the guys can think of a way around it for you. we have kde pros too [16:31] mmmmm, some text in my previous reply went missing, was supposed to read between 11.10 and 12.04 [16:33] kde uses more resources than the others methinks [16:34] but i like that it does app installs faster than unity [16:34] Well, I must be honest I am taking to Unity lately [16:35] i like it as well but 12.04 gives big probs getting 3g working [16:35] that's not cool, which modem is it? [16:35] what do you do in secunda? [16:36] an alcatel from saudi arabia [16:36] hehe [16:36] only 12.04 has the probs though [16:36] I am an application specialist [16:37] lekker [16:37] we do high density laser scanning of petrochemical plants and model the plants in 3D modeling software for engineering analyses etc. [16:38] whew [16:39] pity that none of the software works on Linux though, everything is windows based [16:39] not many here use unity so it will be good to have you around when someone has probs [16:40] hello all :) [16:40] yeah thats the biggest prob hey [16:40] hiya kbmonkey wb [16:40] hello Kilos. I missed you all. [16:40] will gladly assist where I can [16:40] we miss you as well kbmonkey [16:40] wassup [16:40] tgif [16:41] ty georgelappies [16:41] kbmonkey: meet georgelappies [16:41] hi kbmonkey [16:41] kbmonkey: is our on and off meeting chairperson georgelappies [16:42] ok, cool. Where do the meetings generally take place? [16:42] next meeting in ten days kbmonkey [16:42] here at 19.30 on the third monday of each month [16:43] great [16:43] what irc client are you using georgelappies [16:43] XChat [16:43] cool i love xchat [16:43] not happy on kde though [16:43] normal one, not the gnome one ;) yeah on GTK it is the best [16:43] no sound [16:44] yeah the gnome one sucks [16:44] on KDE quassel is quite good [16:45] i prefer konversation. can configure it to be same as xchat with the same alert [16:45] bell.ogg [16:45] took a while though [16:46] there are a few basic apps I cannot go without: gvim, hotot, xchat, liferea and chrome :) [16:47] and no pidgin? [16:49] hey I should maybe give gvim a try [16:50] not really into im ;) [16:50] ah [16:50] best way to get help here though. and for me to keep in touch with family on mxit [16:55] I have it in my calendar Kilos, thanks for your reminders. You are always spot on! [16:55] hi not_found [16:55] o/ [16:55] hi not_found [16:55] gotta keep you younguns on your toes kbmonkey [16:56] indeed ;) [16:56] hehe [16:58] how are you all this fine evening? [16:58] good ty not_found , and you? [16:58] at work? [16:59] very well after that nice burger :] [16:59] home... switching to night tomorrow [16:59] * not_found had SFC (KFC's cousin :p) [16:59] hehe [16:59] spiced with dates? [16:59] lol [17:00] no with chicen [17:00] *chicken [17:00] and boiled in camel milk [17:00] hahaha! [17:00] with some added horse [17:01] :( [17:01] shame [17:01] sorry [17:01] lol [17:02] I have wesley's burgers [17:02] best in town [17:03] not_found: meeting the 15th hey [17:03] sort you lifestyle around that date [17:03] future is cloudy, blinded am I by the darkside... [17:03] lol [17:04] georgelappies: not_found is a za guys working in the UAE [17:04] guy [17:06] bend over and my darkside you will see [17:09] >.< [17:12] lol [17:12] I hear there is a comicon in CT soon [17:42] sharks struggling not_found [17:42] sigh [17:52] oh dear. they had a big victory last time though [17:54] the crusaders are tough [17:56] kbmonkey: you still on crunchbang? [17:56] crashbang. whatever [18:00] kbmonkey, comic con this weekend in Duabi... and I am working :'( [18:01] sorry uncle Kilos, not really following the rugby that diligently [18:01] np [18:05] kbmonkey, awesome ted talk about asking, thanks for sharing... [18:14] yeah, amanda palmer is amazing. I love her music. [18:20] doesn't sound like my cup of tea :p [18:34] hello nighttime peoples [18:38] bye :) [18:40] ohi ThatGraemeGuy [18:41] * ThatGraemeGuy smiles and waves [18:41] Ubuntu 13.04, scheduled for release on April 25, is now available for testing in its second and final beta release [18:41] yo inetpro [18:42] ho Kilos [18:42] this drive with kde also started the disk sleep thing [18:42] removed one 1g ram and so far so good [18:42] maybe my 160g drive is ok [18:45] * Kilos holding thumbs for the sharks [18:47] Kilos: are they playing now? [18:47] yes last 2.5 mins [18:47] score [18:47] ? [18:48] only beat the crusadres 3 times out of 18 games [18:48] 21/17 [18:48] tonight will be the 4th time i hope [18:51] * inetpro running mplayer mms://196.35.68.110/rsg_22 [18:52] whats that? [18:52] pragtig! Dankie Kilos [18:52] w000t [18:53] Kilos: aptitude show mplayer [18:54] Kilos: actually vlc also works with that [18:54] ya man but what were you watching on it [18:54] Kilos: listening RSG [18:54] oh [18:54] thats clever [18:55] see we got a new clever guy [18:56] Kilos: huh? [18:56] we must do something about this channel [18:56] he has been on ubuntu for years and only found us now [18:56] * inetpro goes to read backlogs [18:56] georgelappies: say hi to inetpro a kde man [18:57] georgelappies: welcome at #ubuntu-za [18:57] 18.20 [18:57] eish... you guys talk a lot [18:58] hi inetpro :) [18:58] well he be new so gotta get to know him [18:58] georgelappies: have you heard of Blender ? [18:58] * inetpro trying to catch up since about mid day [18:58] yeah, like 3D studio [18:58] georgelappies: superfly is another kde guy [18:59] hi superfly :) [18:59] and python pro [19:00] I gave up catching up [19:00] inetpro: mag ek gaan doedoe nou? [19:00] Kilos: why? [19:00] hmm... [19:00] superfly, you using Blender? [19:01] Kilos: of course you're welcome to take a well deserved rest [19:01] rofl you are so kind [19:01] goeie nag oom [19:01] night all. sleep tight. [19:02] sien julle more weer [19:02] lekker slaap [19:04] georgelappies: wow, you found ubuntu-za on distrowatch? [19:04] * inetpro didn't realise that we're there as well [19:05] lol, yeah. I there was a link on phoronix to the beta2 of 13.04, I followed that and from there to distrowatch where I got the ubuntu-za link in related sites :) [19:06] nice! [19:07] glad you found your way here and I hope you wil stick around as well [19:07] will as well [19:09] thanks inetpro [19:11] * superfly is playing plants vs zombies [19:12] say hi to crazy dave for me [19:13] plants vs zombies rulke [19:13] *rule [19:13] * not_found just died in FTL :( [19:23] Galaxy S2 or Galaxy S3 Mini ? [19:26] * inetpro wonders when we will get pricing for the S4 [19:26] Squirm, http://androidfact.com/s2-vs-s3-mini/ [19:27] wanted a personal opinion [19:28] Squirm: personally I wouldn't go for the mini [19:28] Now, that is going to be a cool device, the S4 [19:28] the processor is disappointing [19:30] inetpro: cool. cause I've found they're both similar prices now [19:31] georgelappies: if you have like R13k [19:31] Squirm: are you sure it will be that high? [19:32] apparently pricing in the US is supposed to start at $200 [19:33] bidorbuy [19:33] Samsung Galaxy S4 16GB [19:33] R14,999.00 [19:33] Available Till: 19 Apr 00:00 [19:33] Item Condition: New [19:33] Product Code: I9500 [19:33] Quantity Available: 1 [19:33] but that's not much to go by [19:33] I want the Nexus 4 [19:33] :/ [19:33]