donnieQuestion... I have xubuntu 11.10, I installed the separate xfce4 because I like it better. Is it safe now to remove the xubuntu-desktop metapackage?00:21
Unit193xubuntu-desktop is safe to remove anyway, but 11.10 is soon to go !eol.00:23
donnieI'll upgrade to 12 the day it's built right and I don't keep getting 'system error detected'00:25
donnieThank you though. How can I remove the xubuntu desktop meta? apt-get rm xubuntu-desktop?00:26
Unit193Just let it get removed, no point to remove it manually.00:26
donnieOnly reason I went to xfce4 is because I like the stock desktop without the distro/company enhancements00:27
donnie"disable effects".... what do I need to install to remove the fancy stuff I don't want00:38
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Oweoqihey everyone, I'm running Xubuntu 13.04 and I have received the update for firefox, am I the one one?08:17
Oweoqionly one*08:17
OweoqiI screwed that all up, I haven't received the update for firefox 2008:19
Unit193!info firefox raring08:25
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 19.0.2+build1-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 23214 kB, installed size 48477 kB08:25
Unit193!info firefox raring-updates08:25
ubottu'raring-updates' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable08:25
baizoni dont see a firefox 20 in the repos08:26
Unit193Not in raring, but quantal.08:26
Oweoqiah ok, I'm just being impatient then08:33
bazhangthe update just came through a very short while ago08:33
bazhangwait for your mirror to sync and check again08:34
bazhangI just got 20 about 20 minutes ago, in fact08:34
Oweoqiwhat mirror you on?08:34
Unit193bazhang: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox not proposed, right?08:34
bazhangUnit193, just the regular repos have it a security upgrade08:36
Unit193Bah, launchpad being wrong.  Alright.08:37
bazhangthats a first!08:40
KaurinHi. I am running xubuntu 12.10. I would like to disable gnome's ssh agent. I figured out that xubuntu 12.10 starts gnome services at startup. XFCE in it's "startup applications" has gnome ssh agent disabled, but it starts via gnome services. Is there an applet (or a config file) in which i can disable gnome ssh agent?09:36
KaurinI guess i'll have to live without gnome's keyring. sigh09:40
KaurinOk. I've disabled gnome services and logged in again. No ssh agent, but i still have the gnome keyring. That is what i wanted :D09:42
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baizon!hi | Guest9908410:07
ubottuGuest99084: Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay!10:07
Guest99084hello baizon10:09
Guest99084it's been long since i used irc10:09
Guest99084but i remember finding the right info i need here10:09
Guest99084seems like nobody is here!10:11
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gdelianahello, i would like to ask: is the latest xubuntu beta2 (final beta) working the installation?10:20
gdelianai tried before installing xubuntu and the isntaller crashes during installation10:21
fsapoHi, is there some way to automount a windows partition on boot in xubuntu? I mean, without editing /etc/fstab? I have to open thunar after boot just to mount it, i guess it should be automatically10:24
fsapoI need to open thunar and actually click on the partition for it to mount :(10:25
bazhangwhats the problem with adding it to fstab10:25
bazhangsudo blkid10:26
bazhang!blkid | fsapo10:26
ubottufsapo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)10:26
koegsjust found that via google: http://xflinux.blogspot.de/2011/01/mount-ntfs-volumes-automatically-in.html10:26
koegsdid not test it, but maybe it justs edits the fstab :D10:26
fsapokoegs thanks, will try that out10:29
fsapokoegs the first comment on that isn't giving much hope, but I'll try anyway D:10:30
koegsfsapo: just tried it with a windows8-partition, very easy to use10:31
koegsbut i cannot try a reboot right now ;-)10:32
Guest85439can anyone help me with my backup?10:35
koegs!ask | Guest8543910:36
ubottuGuest85439: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:36
Guest85439i previously had Bio-Linux installed on my comp , which is ubuntu+bioinformatics packages , i've had so many packages downloaded , backed them up using aptoncd , then restored them after a clean install of xubuntu , but half of them seem to be broken , i wonder if anyone knows why10:38
fsapokoegs looks like it worked, but it basically just edited the fstab, but its better than having to do it myself :P10:38
koegsGuest85439: did you come from the same *ubuntu version or are the packages from a different release?10:40
Guest85439same , Precise10:41
koegsGuest85439: i would try just to use the "list" of packages and install them via apt-get from the repo servers10:42
Guest85439i'd have but my connection is so slow10:43
koegsmaybe there are somehow some unmet dependencies while installing from cd10:43
Guest85439i don't think so , the aptoncd tool offers an "auto select dependencies" property10:44
koegsand how do you "restore" the packages when using aptoncd?10:47
Guest85439i autoselect dependencies for each manual selection of packages , the tool copies them to var/cache/apt/archive , then i cd to cache using terminal and install them using "dpkg -i *.deb"10:51
koegshm, and what does "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say after that?10:53
Guest85439so many broken things10:54
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.10:54
koegsGuest85439: installing the packages via dpkg is not the recommended way10:56
Guest85439i don't have it now , i did a new clean install , and i'm willing to take the hustle of downloading everything again from server , it'll take me more than a week , then i'll back everything up again for new xubuntu intsalls10:56
Guest85439i'm just afraid the same will happen again10:56
Guest85439then what is the recommended way?10:56
koegsuse the cd as a repository: http://www.howtogeek.com/110034/how-to-back-up-restore-your-installed-ubuntu-packages-with-aptoncd/10:57
koegsand then use apt-get or the aptoncd meta-package10:57
Guest85439i tried that10:58
Guest85439less errors , but still too many10:58
Guest85439will try it now10:58
Guest85439i start it up , and try to get something installed , it tells me that some dependencies are uninstallable , some others are "not going to be installed"11:01
koegsGuest85439: if you put your command and the error messages in a nopaste, that would be more helpful11:03
Guest85439 Depends: libblas3gf  but it is not installable or11:03
Guest85439libblas.so.3gf or11:03
Guest85439 libatlas3gf-base but it is not going to be installed11:03
Guest85439 Depends: libgfortran3 (>=4.6) but it is not installable11:03
Guest85439 Depends: liblapack3gf  but it is not installable or11:03
Guest85439liblapack.so.3gf or11:03
Guest85439 libatlas3gf-base but it is not going to be installed11:03
Guest85439that's after i marked abinit  for installation using synaptic11:04
bob22hi folks, xubuntu noob here. I just installed and everythign works great apart from sound. I am using a dell mini 1018 netbook. I have checked volumes and read about 20 articles in the help forum and nothing works. is this a suitable place to ask for help? I am desperate.11:21
Myrtticould you please elaborate a bit more with "everything works apart from sound"11:22
Myrttidon't even know if we can help with that amount of knowledge :-(11:22
bob22Myrtti, thank you. well basically I cant hear any sound when I play an mp3 or watch youtube. Everything else works in terms of wifi etc.11:23
bob22what i mean is that sounds is broke11:23
Myrttiand what have you tried so far?11:23
Myrttiand how is it broken?11:23
bob22well my card seems to be a intel hd-audio card with a realtek alc272 chipset. Most of the forums talked about adding 'options snd-hda-intel model=dell' to '/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf'11:25
bob22its doesnt help.11:25
bob22I can open alsamixer and move all of the sliders.11:25
bob22but i cant hear anything from the internal speaker or headphones11:25
Myrttiand when you go to alsamixer, non of the boxes says MM in them?11:27
Myrttinone, even11:28
bob22ok so right now Master has 00 in the box and speaker has MM in it11:29
Myrttiso move over to speaker and press m11:29
bob22holy crap. so that didnt work for the speaker but when i did it for headphones it worked11:31
bob22wow, i unpugged my headphones and even got sound from the laptop for a monet then it disappeared11:32
bob22CAnt believe I didnt cop that before.11:32
bob22Myrtti, the media keys for volume on my keyboard seem to be causing havoc with the levels in the elsamixer when I click the mute key. thank you for your help. i was looking at this problem in completely the wrong way.11:36
Myrttibob22: I'm on debian myself and I know what you mean - there are some problems there. which version of Xubuntu are you running?11:37
bob22Myrtti, it should be the latest, got it from the site yesterday11:38
bob22should be easier to find a fix for this. I think the dell media keys are just driving it nuts.11:39
moultonlI'm trying to line stuff up on my panels (making XFCE look like GNOME2 really) and wonder if it's possible to specify a width on seperators.12:08
xubuntu947hello i have small problem with 13.04 beta 2 - when i try to install, everything stop after aditional software and internet connection screen15:05
ubottuUbuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) will be the 18th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+115:05
holsteinxubuntu947: i would go with the stable if you want stable.. you can alway try an older iso image15:05
xubuntu947i love debian testing - i wanna xubuntu 13.04 beta2 :)15:06
xubuntu947any idea whats going on with this installation issue15:07
drcxubuntu947: What part of #ubuntu+1 didn't you undrstand?15:08
holsteinxubuntu947: bad iso image.. incompatible harware.. something with the beta iso its self.. but ask in the proper channel please.. thanks!15:08
xubuntu947all right15:08
xubuntu947drc - i don't read it15:09
xubuntu947 ...15:09
Akira_Hey, was wondering if anyone would be able to help me with getting xubuntu onto my windows 8 laptop, any of the discs I burn come up with the same errors (Error: failure reading from sector 0x0 from cd0 and Error: you need to load the kernal first) Any help would be much appreciated!16:12
holsteinAkira_: i would download the 12.04 lts live CD.. i would check the sum.. i would get the 32bit version16:12
holsteinAkira_: look at the constants in your scenario.. did you always use the same internet access? then the downloads could be corrupt.. the same media? try USB.. the same optical drive?16:13
Akira_I do not have much choice in most of them, but I have tried using unetbootin and that fails with a different error on trying to load the OS16:14
holsteinAkira_: the same target machine. the same internet downloading the iso image16:15
holsteinAkira_: are you using the 32bit 12.04 image?16:16
bekksAs long as your PC supports 64bit, I would use the 64bit cd.16:16
Akira_Windows 8 is running 64, and I have tried 64, 32 and 64 12.10 and all come up with the same issue16:16
holstein!md5 | Akira_16:17
ubottuAkira_: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:17
holstein!nomodeset | Akira_16:17
ubottuAkira_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:17
holsteinAkira_: can you boot *any* live linux distros on that hardware?16:17
holsteinalso, im suggesting the 32bit iso as more of a troubleshooting step than a personal or professional endoursement of 32bit over 64bit16:19
Akira_I tried Debian, the bios doesn't recognize it at all16:19
holsteinAkira_: the bios doenst recognize what?16:19
Akira_The disc16:20
Akira_it acts as if it doesn't exist16:20
bekksThe bios doesnt recognize any cds, it recognizes your cdrom drive only.16:20
Akira_Yes, and the disc drive acts as if it's empty16:20
holsteincould be bad hardware... i would check the hardware16:20
Akira_Hardware is brand new16:21
holsteinAkira_: i would test it.. *all* hardware fails16:21
Akira_it does, but it runs perfectly fine in OS16:21
holsteinAkira_: i guarantee you its not an issue with all the iso's you are trying.. its going to be something on your end16:22
Akira_I'm thinking it's more likely some issue with the UEFI bios16:22
Myrttiout of interest, which laptop is this?16:22
holstein!uefi | Akira_16:22
ubottuAkira_: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:22
holsteinAkira_: yes, that is likely the issue...16:22
Akira_Myrtti: It's a HP envy DV7, sorry was looking at the link16:27
Akira_*impending linux doesn't support my laptop*16:28
Myrttialright, good to know16:28
Akira_problem is laptop Bios don't give you much control16:28
Akira_secure boot is disabled I know that much16:28
Akira_Well i've copied the 12.04 64 bit files back, time to go try and break my laptop again :)16:31
borgiri got a problem, i am kind of a noob when it comes to linux, i am running a xubuntu live dvd and i kinda have to mount a harddrive in a way to be able to write on it but i cant figure out how, moin /dev/sda4 /mnt/sda4 doesent work in a sudo -s shell, says cant find device on fstab, can somebody help me?16:35
holsteinborgir: i might work from a live CD made for recovery16:35
borgirmount instead of moin i meant*16:35
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions16:35
koegsborgir: which partition type is on it? and can you nopaste your command and the error message?16:36
koegs!paste | borgir16:37
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borgirill take a lokk thanks so far, problem is i got an emty harddrive and xubuntu refuses to install so i need to download a new copy first, kinda chicken and the egg16:37
borgiri tried fat16, ext2 ext3 etc16:37
koegsif the hard drive is empty i would recommend creating a new partition table and an ext4 partition on that harddrive16:39
koegsafterwards you should be able to mount it, if not, i would like to see the output of "sudo fdisk -l"16:39
holsteinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive helped me add a hard drive to my machine16:40
borgirthe mounting itself issnt the problem16:44
borgiri can do that from the desktop16:44
borgirbut i need write permissions16:44
holstein!chown | borgir16:44
ubottuborgir: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions16:44
borgirand in terminal mount wont mount my drive in any way16:44
holsteinor, open a root filemanager...16:44
holsteinborgir: is the mounting an issue then?16:45
borgirthe artikle wont help since i need a program to be able to write to the disk16:46
borgirand it wont start with sudo16:46
borgirand i cant moint the drive with write permissions16:46
borgirfirefox or iceweazle or whats it called nowdays and transmission16:47
holsteinborgir: you can chown after mounting.. you can open a root file manager.. you can use something like the ultimate boot cd16:47
borgiri only have this cd, this is my problem lol16:48
holsteinborgir: ? firefox is a browser.. and transmission is a torrent client16:48
borgirand no other computers in range16:48
borgiry they are16:48
holsteinborgir: what are you trying to do?16:48
borgirand i need them to write to my disk while i am on a xubuntu live cd16:49
holsteinborgir: them?16:49
borgiri am trying to get them to download a rescue disk since this aint one16:49
holsteinborgir: i dont know what or who "them" is.. what are you trying to do?16:50
borgirits probably the weirdest situvation16:50
borgirther xubuntu and firefox and transmission16:50
borgirsorry to bother you, i am really a noob and i am trying to figure things out, the old xubuntu on the drive is dead :(16:52
GridCubeborgir, and what do you want to do?16:52
holsteinborgir: you have several options.. one being to chown the partition.. the drive you are trying to write to16:52
borgirok i got a live cd running right now, i got no other usable system, the live cd wont install, i need to download a new version, i want firefox and or transmission to download an image of another xubuntu to the disk wich i have probably 10 times gparted and cant get write permissions16:55
holsteinborgir: what would you like to troubleshoot?16:55
holsteinborgir: gparted doesnt work with permissions16:55
borgirwhat i just said16:55
borgiri need write permissions to get a new version16:56
koegssimple enough, chmod or chown the mounted partition16:56
holsteinborgir: you want the live CD to install? what are the errors?16:56
borgirsince the ramdisk is to smal to16:56
borgirand mount wont and sudo either16:56
borgirhm koegs ill try moment16:57
holsteinborgir: mount nor sudo grant permissions..16:57
borgirholstein one moment16:57
borgirhah gotta love it, pc freezes stare while dvd dances (live cd)17:04
holsteinborgir: the live CD wont, by its self, fix any issues you have with hardware that might be contributing to the broken installation you have17:05
holsteini would choose something, and troubleshoot it.. the installation, installing from the live CD.. or just chown/chmod the partition you want to use from the live CD.. i migt test my ram and/or hard drive as well17:07
borgirholstein: the weird thing is if i try to install from this disk, setup juststops at some point after i type in my username and password in the install, if i dont it copies 2.3 gb data but. ive done sooner then just a couple hundret mb and no error logsas logs or anything17:08
holsteinborgir: what are you installing? from what iso? can you get to the live desktop?17:09
borgirborgir: i am on a live cd and it just crashed booting takes ages :(17:20
borgiruhm holstein i meant17:20
brokentoenailhello.  how do I enable a vpn once it has been added under network connections?17:21
holsteinborgir: all of which could be due to bad hardware17:21
borgirtslking to myself is kinda poitless :D17:21
holsteinborgir: ? do you see my posts?17:21
holstein!vpn | brokentoenail this is what i refer to17:21
ubottubrokentoenail this is what i refer to: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN17:21
borgirnah it crashed since the ram was to full and was cuntinuosly loading from the cd and didnt work anymore17:22
baizonbrokentoenail: http://www.ipvanish.com/visualguides/OpenVPN/Ubuntu/OpenVPN-Ubuntu-11.jpg17:22
baizonthere will be a entry with your vpn conneciton17:22
borgirthe hardware is fine unless u think the hardware from 3 computers is faulty, and yes no harddrives with working ops17:22
brokentoenailbaizon: thank you, that was what I needed.  I was looking for a "connect" button under network connections17:23
borgiru asked what happens when i try to install, it just stops at some point no error no nothing17:23
holsteinborgir: on all your machines?17:23
holsteinborgir: i would try another iso then... have you tried other images?17:23
borgirthats what i want to try17:24
borgirbut for that i kinda need to mount my ONE harddrive and let it be writeable17:24
borgirwich was my first question anyway :(17:24
holsteinborgir: so, thats a no? no, you havent tried other images? just the one.. the *same* one that fails on all of your machines?17:24
borgirsorry if i sound arrogant i am just frustrated17:24
holsteinborgir: i understand you are frustrated.. no worries.. just try and answer as clearly as possible17:25
borgirthe install is a prog yey, the crashes after about an hour are a prob , yes17:25
holsteinborgir: have you tried other images?17:25
borgirbut its enough time to download and burn an image and i cant do that since i cant write to the hdd17:25
holsteinborgir: you havent poperly implemented the correct permissions to write to your hard drive* (assuming its not damaged)17:26
holsteinborgir: so, you have not tried other images?17:27
borgiri cant and i want...17:27
borgirthe hdd is not even from me its from a friend and its working fine i just cant write on it with xubuntu17:27
holsteinborgir: chown or chmod the partition you want to use17:28
borgirno i havent tried, like said i cant since first i gotta download them somehow and yes the hdd is fine and i have no idea what i might have done wrong setting permissions17:28
borgirany idea how i can mount it writeable?17:28
holsteinborgir: yes.. you use chmod or chown to "mount it writable"17:28
borgiry but i just get sopme errors17:29
holsteinto be more clear, after you mount the partition, you chown or chmod the mounted directory using the instructions at ...17:29
holstein!chown | borgir17:29
ubottuborgir: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions17:29
borgirmaybe i got the parameters wrong i dunnop17:29
holsteinborgir: you can share those errors17:29
holstein!paste | borgir17:29
ubottuborgir: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:29
holsteinuse a pastebin to share the output including errors17:29
holsteini would get a direct link, and use wget as root.. then, use whatever else i need as root17:32
holstein!info wget17:32
ubottuwget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.13.4-3ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 272 kB, installed size 596 kB17:32
borgirsomehow i got it to work with chmod wow nice i love it finally :) i love u guys for helping i dunno what it was maybe me beoing stupid but i love you17:34
borgirbut gotta test it with the programs still i dunno ill keep here :)17:35
holsteinborgir: if you have write permission, you have write permission.. any other errors are not permission issues17:36
borgiry maybe it was me beoing stupid i dunno, i am a noob when it comes to these things17:36
holsteinborgir: i would just use the direct link...17:37
borgirwhats still weird though17:37
borgirthe install of the xubuntu never worked on any machine17:37
borgirit just stopped and nothing happend afterwards but well maybe the cd is faulty i dunno17:38
holstein!md5 | borgir17:38
ubottuborgir: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows17:38
holsteinborgir: anytime you have a question like that "mabye the cd is faulty".. just confirm that17:38
borgirill take a look at it when i got a working system again for sure, thanks17:39
itzanyone else noticed jerky scrolling in Firefox 20?17:42
holsteinitz: i havent used ff in a while.. is that a PPA version? or the one from the default repos?17:42
itzdefault repo as upgraded yesterday17:43
holsteinitz: i suppose you could downgrade and confirm the issue is in ff2017:44
itzhmm I'll experiment a bit .. could even be an addin17:47
borgirsince i am waiting and am here i got another question , what is IBus in the System menue from xubuntu? nothing happens when i start it17:51
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harrisgood greenscreen software22:00
bazhangharris, to do what22:03
harrischange background of picture that has greenscreen22:06
bazhanggive an example picture harris22:06
harrisbazhang, im sending you a picture22:16
bazhangharris, paste it to an imgbin, dont dcc it to me22:16
bazhang!paste| harris22:17
ubottuharris: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:17
harrisjust open it22:17
harrisjust open it22:17
bazhangharris, sure you can.22:17
harriswhy cant you just open dcc22:17
bazhangharris, that not how we do support, thats why22:17
bazhangharris, you are crossposting this in #ubuntu22:19
harrisi dual boot22:20
bazhangdont do that22:20
harrisyou dont know anything22:20
bazhang!crosspost | harris22:20
ubottuharris: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.22:20
harrisfine ill leave this channel22:21
bazhangI know you should not crosspost, harris22:21
harrissorry know anything about greenscreen22:21

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