[07:55] <Mamarok> hm, only 60 available updates for 4.10.2? Seems quite little to me
[07:56] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: You mean which release?
[07:56] <Mamarok> raring
[07:56] <Mamarok> upload not finished apparently
[07:56] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: What will be the usual bo
[07:56] <smartboyhw> no.?0
[07:57] <Mamarok> well, a full KDE is over 100 packages
[07:57] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: Give the devs some time:)
[07:57] <Mamarok> smartboyhw: did I blame you?
[07:58] <smartboyhw> Mamarok, you wouldn't anyway I didn't prepare for it:P
[08:00] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: Any people complaning for the Backports PPA after FlameReaper?
[08:00] <Mamarok> not so far
[08:00] <smartboyhw> \o/
[08:00] <Mamarok> but that should be a lesson: not publishing the update notice unless one ahs tested the packages are actually there, all of them
[08:01] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: Any time if you want the announcement back ask Riddell (I can't do it in mobile)
[08:03] <Mamarok> smartboyhw: not as long as not all updates are really available
[08:03] <smartboyhw> Mamarok:I said ANY time:P
[08:04] <smartboyhw> As long as you wish to.
[09:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:22] <smartboyhw> Hello lordievader
[09:22] <lordievader> Hey smartboyhw, how are you?
[09:23] <smartboyhw> lordivader: Good.
[12:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:07] <smartboyhw_> hello
[12:07] <soee> hiho
[12:10]  * shadeslayer pokes queuebot
[12:10] <shadeslayer> er
[12:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: 
[12:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: are you going to do the backports?
[12:12] <soee> this bot here is he able to check some package current version i raring ?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> hm?
[12:13] <shadeslayer> something like
[12:13] <shadeslayer> !info kubuntu-desktop raring
[12:14] <shadeslayer> I wonder if it can do source
[12:14] <shadeslayer> !info kubuntu-meta raring
[12:14] <shadeslayer> hah, nope
[12:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what are you poking for?
[12:53] <soee> !info firefox raring
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ktp backports
[13:10] <shadeslayer> Quintasan said he'll do them
[13:10] <shadeslayer> if I don't hear from him till tomorrow then I'll do them
[13:10] <shadeslayer> just a matter of running backportpackage 
[13:18] <smartboyhw_> Whoa'
[13:18] <smartboyhw_> I thought I did the whole topic
[13:20] <smartboyhw_> No doesnt work
[13:20] <smartboyhw_> Riddell, shadeslayer please fix the topic (too difficult on mobile)
[13:21] <smartboyhw_> And change the IS OFFICIALLY to just "is"
[13:22] <smartboyhw_> Just anyone, please..
[13:25] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: ^
[13:25] <Mamarok> smartboyhw_: let me check if it now shows all the packages...
[13:26] <Mamarok> still only 60 packages, that can't be
[13:26] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: OK but help me restore the chan topic first please
[13:26] <Mamarok> ah, I don't have op here
[13:26] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: How come you can run sudo apt-get update first
[13:26] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok no nees
[13:26] <smartboyhw_> The topic can be changed by anyone
[13:27] <smartboyhw_> My mobile IRC crapped it...
[13:27] <Mamarok> there
[13:27] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok, and please help to change "IS RELEASED" to "is"
[13:27] <Mamarok> smartboyhw_: moment
[13:27] <smartboyhw_> Many thanks to Mamarok;)
[13:28] <Mamarok> but I don't have all the packages in raring yet, still a lot with 4.10.1 showing
[13:28] <Mamarok> and of course I did update, I am not that dumb :)
[13:28] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: LOL
[13:28] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: lemme check
[13:29] <Mamarok> only 60 packages show as updates, and not all are KDE
[13:29] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: At least kde-workspace wasn't uploaded.
[13:29] <Mamarok> 54 are 4.10.2
[13:30] <Mamarok> well, then nothing "is" yet
[13:30] <smartboyhw_> Hmm can some Kubuntu dev re-upload!?
[13:30] <Mamarok> so what should I change in the topic?
[13:30] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok, that I am.pointing to Beta 2
[13:31] <smartboyhw_> And it DOES come with 4.10.1;P
[13:31] <Mamarok> ah, OK
[13:31] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: Just change the "IS OFFICIALLY" to "is" for the Beta sentence
[13:32] <smartboyhw_> And probably add that 4.10.2 wasn't fully uploaded 
[13:32] <Mamarok> but it makes little sense to upgrade raring right now as a lot of packages are only hafl upgraded, so why don't you wait for 4.10.2 to be up and then change the topic?
[13:32] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: Yeah.
[13:33] <smartboyhw_> Riddell, shadeslayer, yofel, apachelogger, JontheEcdina ^ please fix the 4.10.2 uploads.
[13:37] <smartboyhw_> ScottK, ^
[14:14] <apachelogger> smartboyhw: hm?
[14:17] <smartboyhw> apachelogger: Not all of 4.10.2 are uploaded 
[14:23] <Riddell> smartboyhw: should all be uploaded, I'm just waiting on kde-workspace in ninjas for precise to copy it over
[14:26] <Riddell> ooh it's done
[14:27] <Riddell> Mamarok: what version are you on?
[14:27] <Mamarok> 4.10.1
[14:27] <Riddell> Mamarok: of ubuntu
[14:27] <Mamarok> raring
[14:27] <Riddell> oh so that just needs the queue accepted
[14:27] <Mamarok> and I only see kdelibs updates
[14:35] <Riddell> Mamarok: ok I've let the rest through, they should compile and be available in the next few hours
[14:36] <Mamarok> Riddell: OK, thank you
[15:17] <Mamarok> ah, now it starts getting interesting, 69 packages now :)
[15:19] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: Do let packages build:)
[15:19] <Mamarok> smartboyhw: I do
[15:20] <Mamarok> smartboyhw: really, you worry too much about me, I am a Kubuntu user since Riddell made the first packages :)
[15:21] <Mamarok> I have memories of shadeslayer being a noob :)
[15:22] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: Nah I'm the noob now.
[15:23] <Mamarok> you are already beyond that point, when I say noob I mean real noob, like the ones breaking their systems in #k
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: :P
[15:24] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: You do know I never installed Kubuntu 13.04 successfully?
[15:24] <Mamarok> really? what are you waiting for then?
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: You clearly don't know my 2nd identity in the Ubuntu community. I work at another flavour too.
[15:26] <Mamarok> I know :)
[15:27] <smartboyhw> Mamarok so I'm using that flavour instead of Kubuntu:P
[15:27] <Mamarok> how lame :)
[15:28] <smartboyhw> Mamarok uh hum......... This commet is a bit UNwise.
[15:28] <Mamarok> I have 2 flavors installed, as usual, but I only ever use kDE
[15:28] <Mamarok> smartboyhw: there is a smile behind it!
[15:29] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: I do have smiles for my flavour too.
[15:29] <Mamarok> behind my comment I meant :)
[15:30] <smartboyhw> Mamarok that is SUPER UNwise.
[15:31] <Mamarok> who said I was wise?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: don't forget breaking their systems on a 56Kbps connection
[15:32] <smartboyhw> Mamarok: LOL
[15:32] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: yep, so only weekly isntead of daily :)
[15:32] <Mamarok> instead*
[15:32] <shadeslayer> true ^_^
[15:32] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: :)
[15:33] <shadeslayer> sigh, I haven't had proper pizza since the Desktop Summit in Berlin
[15:33] <smartboyhw> Now I get at least 56Mbps:P
[15:33] <shadeslayer> then Indian pizzas are too salty/cheesy
[15:33] <smartboyhw> (due to wifi)
[15:33] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: sounds like "too American"
[15:34] <shadeslayer> haven't ever had American pizza, wouldn't know what it tastes like
[15:34] <shadeslayer> the one in Berlin was awesome .... and we had dinner for like 3 hours
[15:34]  * smartboyhw gives shadeslayer a hand-tossed pzza from the pizza shop near his school.
[15:34] <Mamarok> too much cheese
[15:34] <shadeslayer> heh
[15:34] <smartboyhw> :)
[15:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: btw I put you in as my roomie for Akademy
[15:35] <Mamarok> really, although one of the best pizzas I ever had was in New York
[15:37] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Damn that I am in London during Alademy time...
[15:37] <shadeslayer> you could fly over for a couple of days :P
[15:37]  * smartboyhw expects gazilliions of email on 30th July.
[15:38] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer:Study tour man, how can I?
[15:38] <shadeslayer> as Riddell would say, that sounds so posh
[15:39] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: LOL
[15:39] <shadeslayer> In India, my study tour consisted of going to the local car factory
[15:39] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Uh London is quite far away from here.
[15:39] <smartboyhw> 12hours flight
[15:39] <shadeslayer> If I knew any better, my school was hinting that if we didn't work harder we'd just land up as workers there
[15:40] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: and that's exactly why it's posh
[15:40] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: LOL
[15:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: vHanda will feel rejected!
[15:40] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: grr
[15:40] <shadeslayer> hahaha
[15:40] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Your car factory ones will be called excursions in our school.
[15:41] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: We don't have domestic flights. 
[15:43] <shadeslayer> where do you live 0.o
[15:44] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer: Hong Kong SAR, China.
[15:45] <smartboyhw> 0.o uh right?
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Theoretically going to.Beijing is domestic
[15:45] <smartboyhw> Technically it isn't
[15:47] <smartboyhw> LOL
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Originally the flight from London -- HK was the longest "domestic" flight
[15:49] <smartboyhw> Now of course it isn't.
[15:49]  * smartboyhw should have moved to #kubuntu-offtopic for this.
[15:53] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ktp?
[15:53] <Quintasan> mmkay
[15:53]  * Quintasan moves his ass
[15:54] <shadeslayer> yeah
[15:54] <shadeslayer> you said you wanted to do it
[15:54] <Quintasan> mmkay
[15:54] <smartboyhw> \o/
[15:59] <Quintasan> !info libtelepathy-logger-qt4-dev quantal
[15:59] <Quintasan> crap
[15:59] <Quintasan> !info libtelepathy-logger-qt4-dev raring
[16:00] <Quintasan> ehh
[16:00] <smartboyhw_> eh what?
[16:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: ffs, use ~quantal1 instead of 12.04 :P
[16:01] <shadeslayer> I think the convention is to use 12.04 now
[16:01] <shadeslayer> backportpackage changed 
[16:01] <Quintasan> hmm
[16:02] <shadeslayer> and the reason it changed was to accomodate the fact that we'll hit 'z' sometime and at that point you'll have to use numbers
[16:02] <shadeslayer> because a < z
[16:02] <Quintasan> why the hell do we have scripts to do something trivial as backporting?
[16:02] <shadeslayer> well, it's better to write a for loop + backportpackage than doing every one of the packages by hand
[16:08] <Quintasan> I'll see if I can get used to that shadeslayer :P
[16:08] <Riddell> Quintasan: also ~ppa1 is larger than ~quantal1
[16:08] <Riddell> is not larger
[16:08] <Quintasan> argh
[16:09] <Riddell> ok everything in backports seems to now be 4.10.2 
[16:09] <Riddell> shall I put the announcement back on kubuntu.org?
[16:09] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: \o/
[16:09] <smartboyhw_> Mamarok: ^
[16:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: do eeeet!
[16:09] <shadeslayer> yeah
[16:10] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Can you do a dependency graph for telepathy so we know what depends on what?
[16:10]  * Quintasan is too lazy to read wiki
[16:10] <shadeslayer> everything depends on common-internals, common-internals depends on logger-qt
[16:11] <Quintasan> mmkay
[16:11] <Quintasan> easy to remember
[16:11] <Quintasan> unlike certain desktop manager
[16:11] <Quintasan> :P
[16:11] <shadeslayer> yeah :P
[16:11] <shadeslayer> haha
[16:18] <Riddell> oh I can't, I'm running ubuntu today for testing, anyone got rekonq?
[16:18] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: Not on computer so no.
[16:19] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer would be happy to oblige I think:P
[16:19] <shadeslayer> what needs testing?
[16:19] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ubuntu? :O
[16:19] <shadeslayer> if it's quick enough, sure
[16:20]  * smartboyhw_ does not understand why Riddell is touching Ubuntu indeed.
[16:20] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Very easy (I did it before for Beta 2)
[16:22] <shadeslayer> well, you need to tell me what needs doing
[16:23] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: You need credentials from Riddell...
[16:23] <shadeslayer> oh the publishing thing
[16:23] <shadeslayer> I have the credentials somewhere 
[16:24] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Yep:)
[16:24] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: 01_no_useless_linking.diff can't we upstream this ?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ask?
[16:24] <shadeslayer> *ask upstream?
[16:26] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: send the patch to upstream.
[16:26] <smartboyhw_> It can be included in next release of ktp.
[16:34] <shadeslayer> errr
[16:35] <shadeslayer> I don't see anything that'll allow me to publish the draft
[16:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: smartboyhw_ ^
[16:41] <shadeslayer> clicking on publishing options doesn't open them
[16:41] <Riddell> shadeslayer: tick the publish box
[16:41] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Eh??
[16:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: is it under publishing options? because I can't click that
[16:42] <Riddell> yes
[16:43] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Didn't you have backport-ktp script?
[16:43] <shadeslayer> :S
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I could write a quick one
[16:44] <Quintasan> I'll do that then
[16:44] <shadeslayer> I don't think I have it saved anywhere
[16:45]  * shadeslayer tries with firefox
[16:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah you mean the javascript is broken somehow so you can't open the Publishing Options part of the page?
[16:47] <shadeslayer> yep
[16:49] <Riddell> mm, I see that too
[16:49] <Riddell> how evil
[16:50] <smartboyhw_> Riddell hmm..
[16:50] <shadeslayer> " You are not authorized to access this page. "
[16:50] <smartboyhw_> shadeslayer: Firefox wont work
[16:50] <shadeslayer> from firefox
[16:50] <shadeslayer> :(
[16:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: hoorah, it worked
[16:51] <shadeslayer> why not though?
[16:51] <shadeslayer> yay
[16:51] <shadeslayer> I never understood why the admin site only works with rekonq
[16:51] <shadeslayer> does the site do UA whitelisting?
[16:51] <Riddell> voila http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.10.2
[16:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nobody has ever worked it out
[16:51] <Riddell> and nobody wants to fight with sysadmins to find out
[16:52] <shadeslayer> heh
[16:52] <shadeslayer> mmm
[16:52] <smartboyhw_> Riddell: please do:P
[16:55] <ScottK> Riddell: Works with Konqueror too.
[18:57] <yofel> home sweet home :)
[19:02] <yofel> sometimes launchpad does funny things... https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+sourcepub/3086540/+listing-archive-extra
[19:02] <yofel> looks broken, but works fine
[19:04] <tsimpson> it's a HTML section meant for DHTML/AJAX stuff
[19:06] <yofel> ah, I didn't mean that - I meant the builds
[19:10] <tsimpson> oh, well that's a little harder ;)
[19:38] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I'm not really going to finish that backporting todayu
[19:38] <Quintasan> pointless actually
[19:38] <Quintasan> builder all busy
[19:38] <Quintasan> builders*
[19:47] <Quintasan> well
[19:47] <Quintasan> I actually uploaded quantal
[19:47] <Quintasan> I'll wait till it builds before doing precise