=== Freejack is now known as Guest69230 === isaiah__ is now known as IRCguy [02:53] oh god forget it [03:18] hello everyone :) things are running quite well now that i've got 12.10 installed, definitely the best kde desktop/linux distribution combo i've used thus far...would it be recommended to upgrade to KDE SC 4.10 from backports, or should I not fix what isn't broken? ;) [03:28] Anyone know what package(s) provide the images for the KDE dynamic weather wallpaper? [03:54] :) cai [03:54] * cau [03:54] nekdo tu? :) [03:55] nejlepe online :) === DouglasK is now known as DouglasKAway [05:08] I'm having an issue with a .dd file I created with testdisk, from a broken external harddrive, in the sense that it was able to create the file(even after not finding the partions) but now I can't mount it, no matter what I do. Advice on how I can at least just mount it, to take all the files off of it? [06:33] Does anyone know a way to set which monitor in a multi monitor setup gets the focus by default in LightDM? [06:35] I want the main monitor which is always on to have the focus at startup so I can see the logon boxes without having to move the mouse [06:35] Right now it defaults to giving the focus to a monitor I don't always have turned on. [06:36] It will move the login boxes to which ever screen I move the mouse to, but it just seems that there should be some way to set the default focus. [07:30] anyone here [07:59] len: you do that in the KDE systemsettings, the one you set as main will be the one also defaulting for lightdm [08:03] I'm not on that system right not, but I'm pretty sure it is set as the main. I'll check it Tomorrow. I didn't an xrandr --primary in lightdm's script and that made no difference. I assume setting a monitor as main is the same as doing an xrandr --primary, but I could be wrong. [08:03] *I did [08:05] I did find that if I issued a xrander --off in lightdm's script it would force the login to the primary screen by virtue of the other screen being temp disabled [08:05] and it would auto turn back on after light dm is done [08:05] So that is how I left it. [08:08] if that works for you, I never changed a yota in the lightdm script, I set my monitors in the kcm [08:08] This was in 13.04, BTW [08:08] 12.10 behaved differently [08:09] and just put the login on both screens [08:09] FlameReaper-PC: Hey is there still any issues with your computer? [08:10] smartboyhw: As of now, I managed to resolve it [08:10] len: I have the login on both screens in 13.04 as well [08:11] I can't remember if I had the kde-workspace package installed, but I think I was sure I have it before I managed to settle it this morning [08:11] err, afternoon. [08:11] FlameReaper-PC: \o/ [08:12] Well, my lightdm was really messed up after the upgrade. I had to customize the script just to get it to this point [08:13] because it has issues with two monitor of different resolutions now [08:13] That is didn't before. [08:13] mine are very different in resolution as well [08:13] *it [08:14] Mine are different resolutions and different aspect ratios [08:14] By default it was creating some kind of common denomitors [08:15] causing the primary to load lightdm in a lower res [08:15] which wouldn't be THAT bad except [08:15] Which reminds me, about lightdm [08:15] Lightdm doesn't load some images, I don't know why [08:16] that this caused ksplash to use a too small graphic [08:16] which didn't cover the whole desktop [08:16] It looked really really bad [08:17] len: funny, I didn't have these problems on upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 [08:17] both screens are very different in size and resolution [08:18] Well, I pretty much have it working well enough now, but it was a real pain [08:18] and does work entirely differently now [08:18] lightdm has some issues [08:19] Also found a bad bug in the updater [08:19] that changed arch on qdbus [08:20] to 386 on an x86 system [08:20] didn't have that one either [08:20] causing kde session to bomb out [08:20] That one was a really strange one. [08:20] Just the one package out of all of them it decided to change arch on [08:21] I only had one missing package in the beta update, which was bad enough, though [08:21] but since all this is considered "testing" we can ahrdly complain [08:21] hardly* [08:21] On the other hand I also updated a notebook Today too [08:21] with no problems at all [08:22] So I'm batting 500 I guess :) [08:24] I figured beta 2 wouldn't be terribly risky. [08:28] The new theme is a little more lively. The default KDE one from the last couple releases is about as dull as you can get. [08:28] yes, the new one is way better [08:28] I didn't like that greyish blue [08:29] Guess they were going for "understand" and went a little too vanilla :) [08:29] *understated [08:30] well, it was just the theme of the moment, "vanilla" means something totally different [08:30] vanilla would be not changed at all, and that is what Kubuntu usually ships, not changing the default KDE [08:31] unlike Opensuse for example [08:31] Kubuntu was just sticking close to KDE which I like [08:31] where they use their own theme [08:31] KDE just went overly boring that's all [08:31] yep, that was really utterly boring [08:31] I'm own an openSUSE machine right now [08:32] I use openSUSE and Kubuntu [08:32] both are good [08:32] But I worry about it becoming increasingly difficult [08:32] for Kubuntu to work with ubuntu base [08:33] with mir and all the other crap [08:33] len: I agree [08:33] since ubuntu really doesn't care [08:33] about kubuntu [08:33] or how it will effect it === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [08:33] len: It once did [08:34] len: we will see when it comes [08:34] It isn't now:( [08:34] That why I put half my eggs in openSUSE basket [08:34] I think Ubuntu is off the rails [08:35] How Kubuntu figures out a way to navigate the minefield [08:36] I really think Kubuntu does a nice job of trying to stick as close to vanilla KDE as possible [08:36] *hope [08:37] not to mention it provides a package manager that looks native to the KDE environment [08:37] I like it more than the other package manager of other distros which use KDE [08:37] Yes. Wonder what it will do about mir. Maintain it's won X and wayland? [08:39] I used to think that until I tried zypper. zypper is an incredilbe package manager [08:39] len: Graphical, I mean [08:39] most intelligent conflict resolver of them all [08:40] I'd use opensuse had I figured out how to make it update from my campus's servers [08:41] Back. [08:41] Why did you need to update from the campus servers? [08:42] len: Because my campus hosts a mirror? [08:42] * Mamarok thinks we are increasingly off-topic for this channel, switching discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic would be a good idea [08:43] Well, I'm out of her in a minute, but I don't really understand why it matters if people are off topic when it is completely dead otherwise. It's not like we are prempting people getting help. [08:44] Just gives the room a pulse :) === joshua is now known as Guest82724 === joshua__ is now known as josh66 [09:08] hello people [09:08] how kis everything [09:08] how is* [09:17] so far so doog :) [09:17] good* [09:18] :) [09:18] please tell me [09:19] how to get rid of that stupid panel toolbox [09:19] Good morning [09:19] aka cashe [09:19] cashew* [09:19] nikolaos: You cant, but you can hide it ;) [09:19] by hiding widgets? [09:19] locking* [09:20] nikolaos: No by draggin it under your taskbar... [09:20] dragging* [09:21] I know it still isn't what you really want, but I believe in 4.10.2 the option still ain't there. [09:23] i dont think i can drag it under my taskbar [09:23] im talking about that toolbox on my panel [09:23] that on the right top corner i dont mind [09:25] nikolaos: Ah ok, I misunderstood, sorry. [09:26] To get rid of the one on the panel you can simple lock the panel. [09:26] i know [09:26] but its a mess [09:26] cause sometimes i forget to do that [09:26] also i have my panel on the left [09:27] so its really annoying to have that down there [09:27] nikolaos: Lock widgets is a global thing, if you lock it for the widgets on your desktop it is also locked for your panels. [09:28] i know [09:28] anyway [09:28] the only reason i lock the widgets is for that thing to dissapear [09:28] Hehe [09:29] there were some plasmoids in the previous versions to remove that [09:29] but they dont work with 4.10 [09:29] gia soy niko apo ellada etsi ? [09:29] ela koraki :p [09:29] help me please i want to run Skype on kubuntu 13.04 64bit [09:30] kai giati den mporeis na to baleis re pedare? [09:30] den trexei me tipote [09:30] ti sou leei [09:30] Is there a way to run Skype on kubuntu 13.04 64bit ? [09:30] to gamoskype [09:30] Itallian? [09:30] !it [09:30] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [09:31] Σφάλμα κατάτμησης (segmentation fault) (core dumped) [09:31] gia klotsies einai [09:31] Russian? [09:31] !ru [09:31] Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [09:31] sorry [09:31] greek [09:31] !gr [09:31] #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes [09:31] :p [09:31] Yep:) [09:31] We have our own Greek channel! [09:31] digitalcrow: You can download Skype from their website, it installs fine on my 64bit Raring install. [09:32] no it doesn't [09:32] It doesn't run [09:33] i have another question, cause im really angry with skype [09:33] is there an alternative for windows/linux video calling? [09:33] digitalcrow: You've downloaded the deb and installed it through dpkg? [09:34] a good alternative [09:34] yes [09:34] digitalcrow: Please keep it in the channel. [09:34] !pm [09:34] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [09:34] digitalcrow: Anyhow, dpkg didn't report any errors? [09:35] no [09:35] [12:31] Σφάλμα κατάτμησης (segmentation fault) (core dumped) [09:36] no errors [09:36] on installation [09:36] only when i try to run skype i got this error: Σφάλμα κατάτμησης (segmentation fault) (core dumped) [09:37] digitalcrow: I take it you chose the 12.04 (multiarch) download instead of the 10.04 32bit? [09:38] multiarch [09:38] chmod -w /usr/bin/skype ???????????????????? [09:39] would that do any good? [09:39] digitalcrow: Hmm, that is odd.. You could try to purge and reinstall the package. [09:39] i tried several times [09:39] nikolaos: I don't think so, if you do so the owner cannot write to it.. [09:39] digitalcrow: Did you purge or simply uninstall? [09:40] no i'm trying to test the 386 version of skype package [09:40] i googled a little bit [09:40] Ah.. that is the problem then. You probable miss the packages needed to run 32bit programs. [09:40] it seems to be an audio problem [09:41] mayb [09:41] digitalcrow: Is ia32-libs installed? [09:42] Hmm wait, is it renamed in Raring. [09:42] yes [09:44] digitalcrow: Hmm, that should be it... [09:44] can't run , i tried anything [09:44] digitalcrow: Perhaps sudo apt-get -f install pulls in some missing packages. [09:47] Ofcourse the simple solution is, install the 64bit version... [09:50] yes [09:50] i've downloaded a version 64bit from download/cnet.com [09:50] it worked [09:52] I have the version 4 of skype 64bit [09:52] it is workinmg [09:52] it is working [09:52] digitalcrow: Skype.com also offers a 64bit version... [09:52] i dont know where [09:53] digitalcrow: The multiarch is 32 + 64 combined. [09:53] multiarch is not working [09:53] on 13.04 [09:53] digitalcrow: It is here ;) [09:54] i have installed steam on kubuntu 13.04 and i have good performance [09:54] or at least bareable cause its not compared with windows. [09:55] effects cant run properly on linux, you wanna play games? :p [09:55] thank you for your help [09:55] bye [09:56] bye dudde [09:56] No problem ;) [09:56] ok now its my turn :p [09:57] pulse audio is giving me headache === kubuntu is now known as Guest5974 [10:01] nikolaos: Currently PA is doing the same to me... [10:02] some programs play sound with pulse [10:02] some other with alsaplugin [10:02] how do i tell everything to play with pulse? [10:03] mostly becayse sound levels differ [10:04] Whoo reloading alsa fixed my problem :D [10:04] Programs do need to support pulse.. [10:06] ok [10:07] The last.fm player is an example of a program that does not support pulseaudio. === ubuntu is now known as Guest78172 [10:51] I'm trying to install kubuntu on a new machine with an 120GB SSD + 1TB HD, and they suggested me to use LVM, but I'm not sure how to do it from the installer or if it's even supported [10:52] I tried the "guided with LVM support" option but that created a partition for /boot and the put everything else on /, without allowing me to create /home with LVM [10:53] now I restarted from the livecd, opened the partition manager, and deleted everything on the ssd and it shows 120GB unallocated (even though I got some errors, and if I do "create new partition table" it gives errors again) [10:54] should I create the partitions manually from here? can I create the LVM ones from here too? [11:10] I'm getting errors even if I try to create partitions on the SSD [12:06] Howdy all === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw === erry_ is now known as erry === madagu is now known as MadAGu [12:26] hello, I had a problem with the kde update yesterday, I locked some KDE packages. No I am on unity because KDE doesn work anymore but I want to re-install KDE. Every time I try to do so, synaptic says that the packages are locked. I tried to unlock them via CLI but it didn´ t really work [12:27] also this command dpkg --get-selections | grep hold [12:27] showed no locked packages === ivan_ is now known as Guest70574 [12:34] buon pomeriggio.. [12:34] nobody? [12:38] denis_: how did you lock them? [12:40] denis_: did you check your filters in Synaptic? [12:41] Hallo Mamarok , I locked them with muon [12:41] Mamarok: which filters do you mean? [12:42] well, Synaptic has filters, see the Settings menu [12:42] check if some filter properties are eycluding something [12:42] excluding* [12:44] and you can start Muon from within Unity and unlock them there === Subfusc_ is now known as Subfusc === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [13:11] Mamarok: no, I cannot because muon is no longer installed [13:15] denis_: oh, that is annoying [13:22] Mamarok: by the way, there are no filters set in Synaptic [13:22] isn't there something like a list with all the locked packages like sources.list or so? [13:22] that seems impossible, there are plenty of predefined filters === kubuntu is now known as Guest22849 [13:23] denis_: anyway, just to make sure: you do have the universe repos activated and the KDE packages do show in synaptic or don't they show at all? [13:24] Mamarok: let me have a look [13:24] denis_: let's keep this in one channel [13:27] Mamarok: yes, the universe repositories are activated and they do show === jeremy_ is now known as Guest18217 === pjoe is now known as pjoe_afk === syncsys_ is now known as Quest [15:17] how to see traffic on a specific port number. say 80? [15:19] Quest: with a monitoring tool like ntop for example [15:21] Mamarok, thats nice but does not gives for ports. it gives for protocols. i mean to monitor speed taken by that port. on port 80 === kubuntu is now known as Guest98283 [15:21] jnettop then [15:22] Mamarok, are you sure? [15:24] Quest: well, that the package I find when looking for port traffic monitoring [15:26] Mamarok, for jnettop i see it. its nice. but gives many individual requests for each port. say 5 connections use port 80 . will show them seperately. i need to know how much traffic / speed is consumed by each port as a whole. like for port 80 , 6667, 443 ? [15:27] netstat lists ports and traffic === samurai is now known as saMOOrai [15:28] iftop can do that kind of stuff too. [15:29] lordievader, how to see combined speed taken by port 80 by iftop? [15:32] Quest: Something like this will probably do so: iftop -f "port http" [15:45] lordievader, no. i need total speed of port 80 [15:46] Quest: It will show you that (I think) [15:47] i have it runing [15:47] it doesnt [15:49] At the bottom are the totals. [15:49] lordievader, i recomend iptraf === z_ is now known as Guest76938 [15:59] can anyone tell why in iptraf in port 80 (breakdown by ports) the "in" is always zero and the "out" at bottom shows speed stats for download and for upload as well. on other strange thing. its showing download and upload . both speeds in "out" and "in" in is 0 .. ? [16:06] hello [16:07] i installed some programs via build/make install from source (kde-apps.org) [16:07] now i deleted the source folders, because the programs installed successfully [16:07] how do i remove those programs? [16:07] muon/apt don't find them [16:08] i read that normally there is a "make uninstall" - but you need the source folder [16:14] yup .. where is can tell you where that program is so that you can remove it manually [16:15] "whereis" the command I mean === ArchangelSe7en is now known as Hyp3r3r [16:19] Thanks, ! Did not work with all. One program it showed non directory [16:19] lordievader, what do the three columns at bottom where it says "rates" mean ? [16:20] Ahh...but that's only the binary.... [16:20] Hyp3r3r, try the package manager [16:20] Quest: Tx is out, Rx is in and Total is, well, total. [16:21] Quest: If you are talking about iftop that is. [16:21] lordievader, ya. first row is tx, second is rx and third is total. but on the right side. what are the columns ? [16:21] 3 "columns" [16:22] iftop won't stop when quitting the app ...it keeps running using up resources here [16:22] Quest: Cum, peak and rates? [16:23] lordievader, the three colums that are at right side of rates [16:23] ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── [16:23] ─────────────────────────────────────── [16:23] TX: cum: 212kB peak: 0b rates: 0b 0b 0b [16:23] Quest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:23] Uh oh. [16:24] Quest: Next time use paste.kde.org or paste.ubuntu.com :) [16:24] rates: 0b 0b 0b [16:24] 0b 0b 0b [16:24] 0b 0b 0b [16:24] these [16:24] Quest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:24] oh ok [16:24] ..... [16:24] ok [16:25] Quest: Quit spamming [16:26] Quest: Anyhow it probably has the do with Cat5 being full-duplex, or at least it is most often used in full duplex. [16:29] Ah it is explained in the man-page, Quest [16:31] lordievader, where? [16:31] Quest: In the display section. [16:31] k [16:35] thx [16:36] Allways a good idea to read the man-pages if you do not understand a program. === smartboyhw_ is now known as smartboyhw [17:06] hi [17:06] 1. does FreeNX works on VNC protocol port 59000? 2. Theres is not package in native or freenx ppa repos for ubuntu 12.10. I want a desktop sharing server which is running all the time and accept unattende multiple connections at the same time. the client may be linux or windows. is there a recomendation ? [17:06] !crosspost | Quest [17:06] Quest: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [17:06] Running Kubuntu 12.04.2 on KDE 4.10.2 and using KDM (not LightDM). X is running on tty8 instead of tty7. Anyone know why, and how I can change it? kdmrc does contain: ServerVTs=-7 which is supposed to direct X to run on tty7. [17:06] bazhang, i really need most views in al lchannels [17:06] bazhang, i regard all users [17:07] Quest, dont crosspost [17:07] not allowed? [17:08] Quest, yes that's part of the code of conduct ..it's also rude to crosspost [17:10] trying tie up support resources on several channels for one person is unfair to others who need support as well [17:18] Is there a software to control a monitor's brightness? Mine only has a power button. [17:26] FlameReaper-PC, depends whether you have graphics server control UI or not [17:28] like radeon tool for ati , or nvidia x server settings , FlameReaper-PC [17:29] I'm running Kubuntu 12.04.2 with KDE 4.10.2 and using KDM (not LightDM). X is running on tty8 instead of tty7. Anyone know why, and how I can change it? kdmrc contains ServerVTs=-7 which is supposed to direct X to run on tty7 if it's available. That X starts on tty8 indicates that tty7 isn't available, but it should be. I don't have any other sessions running. [17:32] Snowhog, did you delete/remove lightdm , if not when booting lightdm might be loading in tty7 [17:33] BluesKaj: How can I confirm this? LightDM doesn't work on this laptop, so I had to reinstall KDM and reconfigure for it. [17:34] ok , well if X is running ok on tty8 , why worry ? [17:34] Snowhog,^ [17:35] BluesKaj: Just because it isn't the 'normal' behavior. X should be starting on tty7. [17:37] what happens if you try tty7 , is there regular login like tty 1-6 , Snowhog ? [17:40] BluesKaj: No. When I drop to tty1 (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and login, then when I type exit and press Ctrl+Alt+F7 I get "checking battery state..." and thats it. I press Ctrl+Alt+F8 and return to my running desktop. === jan is now known as Guest78327 [17:43] ??? [17:44] iam getting this error while connecting to freenx server by qtnx http://pastebin.ca/2351208 === bongo-who is now known as L3top [17:53] iam getting this error while connecting to freenx server by qtnx http://pastebin.ca/2351219 . any help with kubuntu please? [17:56] !patience | Quest [17:56] Quest: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ === moparisthebest_ is now known as moparisthebest === omkar_ is now known as omkar1417 [18:39] i insatlled kubintu 12.10 32-bit, and i cannont install with apt-get firefox....ani idea why... [18:39] install google chrome instead of firefox [18:39] omkar1417: please try be helpful [18:39] its better [18:40] z0ran: what is the exact command you're trying? [18:40] sudo apt-get install firefox [18:40] z0ran: and what is the error you get? [18:41] and it telling me that in /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code [18:41] what error code (: [18:42] hey there i want tu use pure alsa in my kubuntu 12.04 setup. i only have one sound card enabled, but it keeps switching between hw:0,1 and hw:1,1 [18:42] i tried a lot of things in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but i could not get in to work [18:42] have the snd-ice1724 driver [18:42] any help is appreciated :) [18:42] also in /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_21.0~b1+build1-0ubuntu).12.10.1~mfn2_i386.deb [18:43] z0ran: I need the exact error you get before I could help further (: [18:47] Lippmann, in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line, options snd-ice-1724 index=0 , then save and reboot [18:47] bah , he left [18:51] i cannot connect to freenx server by nx client. it quites at establishing display. [18:51] Quest, you were told about crossposting. [18:51] Quest, Please Don't [18:53] iam really stuck and no one answers. need to expand audience. cant digest this is unfair? [18:53] what is the similar software for kubuntu as is for gnome-session-fallback in ubuntu? [18:54] Quest, you ask for help in multiple channels at the same time. [18:54] the helpers are largely the same [18:58] Quest, nobody answers because your situation is unique , and has no experience with it [18:59] hm [18:59] wish me luck then [18:59] well same for me used nx client but didnt experienced such problem === Copper_ is now known as Guest88326 === kubuntu is now known as Guest80217 === elle is now known as Guest10240 [20:57] Salve. === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away [21:24] Anyone using kde-telepathy? Packages seem to be broken in 13.04. === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [21:25] Get org.freedesktop.telepathy.Error.NotAvailable:Handler no longer available === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away [21:25] when trying to open a chat session [21:25] Updated two different computers to 13.04 and it is broken in same way on both of them. [21:27] Also, what is with the strange big clunky windows decorations on plasmoid tooltips and shutdown box etc?! [21:27] Not very cosmetically pleasing [21:29] Big clunky borders added to all things plasma [21:30] Really bad on shutdown message--has extra inside border that even overlaps some of the text [21:37] OK, It looks like the crazy fat boarder mods were only applied to the Air Theme-which is prob still the default [21:38] Oxygen theme looks like it normally does without huge boarder decorations on everything === kubuntu is now known as Guest38361 [22:00] hi to all [22:01] is that possile with dolphin to format a penn drive? [22:01] i know i can do it with gprted or partition managr [22:01] but i want to find a more simple way, so i can formata a penn drive with dolphin [22:01] is that possibile with some plugin or scripts? [22:09] test === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [22:12] Hmm. That's interesting. The Air for Notebooks theme looks just like the old regular Air did, without the additon of the clunky boarders around everything [22:13] Guess I'll just change 13.04 machines to that === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [22:35] Hi, I have a problem with raring and a btrfs multi device root: [22:35] It's trying to mount the fs before all devices are detected by the kernel; thus root mount will fail. [22:35] Previous ubuntu versions did wait, but as this is a clean install I might have overlooked some config option. [22:38] psyblade: btrfs support is experimental at best, I can only suggest you start from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs [22:58] nothing usefull there as far as I can see === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away === richard is now known as Guest40928 === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [23:35] I think there is a version mismatch problem going one with telepathy in 13.04 [23:36] kde-telepathy-contacts-list was updated to 6.0, but [23:36] When you click on a contact it tries to open kpt-textui version 5.8 [23:37]