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| DIFTOW | Good morning :) | 03:30 |
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| DIFTOW | I'm a long time | 03:30 |
| DIFTOW | Fuckin hell, typing in the dark | 03:30 |
| DIFTOW | :P | 03:30 |
| DIFTOW | I'm a long time Ubuntu user. Since Hardy something, 7 or 8 | 03:30 |
| holstein | !language | DIFTOW | 03:31 |
| ubottu | DIFTOW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 03:31 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: welcome! | 03:31 |
| DIFTOW | I use the latest Ubuntu on my computer. It's fast, so I could go KDE without any issues. | 03:31 |
| DIFTOW | But I have another computer in the house for my mother, its actually my old PC from 2003, with a 2005-2006 GPU | 03:31 |
| DIFTOW | It runs XUbuntu | 03:32 |
| DIFTOW | CPU is 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 Intel (so Single Core and 32bit); 1 GB of System Ram; 320 GB HDD PATA 7200 RPM; Nvidia 7300 GT (8x AGP, 512 MB vRam, DX9, don't know clock) | 03:33 |
| DIFTOW | When running Firefox and the system monitor, 26% of the Ram is used. That leaves enough for something else to run, surely. | 03:33 |
| DIFTOW | The computer is able to run Amnesia: The Dark Descent on 720p medium graphics with decent frame rate. | 03:34 |
| DIFTOW | The issue is that, it seems to have trouble running Farmville 1 and 2, and probably flash in general, but especially those flash apps. | 03:34 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: i use chrome.. not chromium. the actual google-chrome browser.. chrome has the most recent version of flash that is available to linux | 03:35 |
| DIFTOW | Now, I personally think Farmville is an abomination of a game, but my mom like most middle aged chicks seem to like this crap. I find it sad that superior games can run, and this crap can't, but I'd like to see what can be done to improve performance for it. | 03:35 |
| holstein | http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ | 03:35 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: try chrome | 03:36 |
| DIFTOW | Alright | 03:36 |
| DIFTOW | Was using Firefox, I'll try Chrome. | 03:36 |
| DIFTOW | Does flash run better under chrome? | 03:36 |
| holstein | https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ | 03:36 |
| Unit193 | You can also technically use it under chromium if you prefer. | 03:37 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: as i said, and the link above states... adobe provides chrome with the current version of flash.. | 03:37 |
| holstein | Unit193: oh yeah!.. you can copy the flash player out of chrome to chromium.. i forget about that, DIFTOW | 03:37 |
| Unit193 | Otherwise, you'll only get security updates to 11.2. | 03:37 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: but, for you, i would just install google-chrome real quick and test.. then, if you like it, and prefer chromium, you can get that flash player to work in chromium | 03:38 |
| DIFTOW | Alright, Chrome and Chromium are separate though? | 03:39 |
| Unit193 | Yep. | 03:39 |
| DIFTOW | Right now I'm installing Chrome. | 03:39 |
| DIFTOW | What is the difference? | 03:39 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: chrome may be downloaded by the link i gave.. chromium is in the default repos | 03:39 |
| holstein | !info | chromium | 03:39 |
| ubottu | 'chromium' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 03:39 |
| Unit193 | One is open source, another isn't. | 03:39 |
| holstein | !info | chromium-browser | 03:39 |
| ubottu | 'chromium-browser' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable | 03:39 |
| Unit193 | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome here it is. | 03:40 |
| Unit193 | !info chromium-browser | 03:40 |
| ubottu | chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 (quantal), package size 26084 kB, installed size 95401 kB | 03:40 |
| holstein | not sure why im piping... | 03:41 |
| DIFTOW | alright | 03:41 |
| DIFTOW | I have both | 03:41 |
| DIFTOW | ill try Chrome first | 03:41 |
| Unit193 | holstein: No idea. Tracking is the main difference, and I didn't know chromium supported less audio/video codecs. | 03:42 |
| DIFTOW | Firefox needs to get it together | 03:44 |
| DIFTOW | Starting to remind me of my bad memories with IE | 03:44 |
| xubuntu644 | Any ideas why my computer can't load xubuntu 64 bit? | 03:44 |
| holstein | DIFTOW: flash support has nothing to do with ff | 03:44 |
| DIFTOW | Firefox though has had lots of issues though in the past. | 03:45 |
| DIFTOW | Memory leaks | 03:45 |
| DIFTOW | Java | 03:45 |
| DIFTOW | When other browsers didn't. | 03:45 |
| holstein | xubuntu644: but it can load the 32bit version? | 03:46 |
| DIFTOW | i have to close this out to give the computer maximum cpu/ram | 03:46 |
| DIFTOW | ill be back | 03:46 |
| DIFTOW | Back | 04:05 |
| DIFTOW | Ive checked the Nvidia documentation for the 304 experimental driver | 04:10 |
| DIFTOW | And it says it supports the 7300 GT model | 04:10 |
| DIFTOW | But when I'm on the Farmville page, it says it doesn't detect graphics acceleration. | 04:11 |
| DIFTOW | So, if I can fix that, performance should improve greatly. | 04:12 |
| DIFTOW | Standard games appear to utilise graphics acceleration, or they'd lag just as bad, so its obvious that the browser or flash is not detecting it. | 04:12 |
| DIFTOW | Without the GPU im working with 1 GB of Ram, and a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4 | 04:18 |
| DIFTOW | With the GPU: 350 Mhz clock, 333 Mhz memory clock, 512 Mb ram, 4x AGP | 04:18 |
| DIFTOW | Dinosaur hardware, but can make a huge difference with an app like this. | 04:18 |
| DIFTOW | If it can run Amnesia in 720p, then it can run this crappy flash game. But I need graphics acceleration. | 04:19 |
| DIFTOW | It won't even run youtube without lag. | 04:28 |
| DIFTOW | But I can play a DVD full screen. | 04:28 |
| DIFTOW | So its definitely Flash | 04:28 |
| DIFTOW | Yeah, i checked video info in youtube | 04:53 |
| DIFTOW | its using software rendering and software decoding | 04:53 |
| DIFTOW | No hardware acceleration at all! O_o | 04:53 |
| DIFTOW | This is bull | 04:53 |
| heoyea | use youtube-viewer | 05:35 |
| DIFTOW | Hmm | 05:36 |
| DIFTOW | Is there anything for Farmville? | 05:36 |
| DIFTOW | Trying to save my mother from throwing a perfectly good computer away. | 05:37 |
| DIFTOW | IF it can run TF2 and CSS, its not worth trashing if she only wants to play a stupid flash game. | 05:37 |
| DIFTOW | Youtube-viewer doesn't show up btw | 05:39 |
| heoyea | on github | 05:51 |
| heoyea | farmville, just get an offline game, install wine and play 1 of those similar | 05:52 |
| DIFTOW | its not for me | 05:55 |
| DIFTOW | Its my mother | 05:55 |
| DIFTOW | i wouldnt waste my time on a crappy game like farmville, its her that loves it so much | 05:55 |
| === moruk is now known as xenox | ||
| === xenox is now known as moruk | ||
| === azeam_afk is now known as azeam | ||
| jaysql | all of a sudden after a few upgrades, xubuntu has become a bloat on my lapto | 14:52 |
| TheSheep | how? | 14:52 |
| jaysql | idont know | 14:53 |
| drc | OK: 1) Define upgrades; do you mean from 11.10 ->12.04 ->12.10 ->13.04B or application updates; say firefox 19 -> firefox 20. 2) define bloat. | 14:55 |
| jaysql | i think i downloaded 12.10 in january | 14:56 |
| jaysql | it ran fine for a while, recently i just been doing apt-get update, then upgrade without seeing things | 14:56 |
| jaysql | but with firefox especially its slow.. probably since 19.02 update | 14:57 |
| TheSheep | firefox is slow, especially if you have a lot of extensions installed | 15:09 |
| TheSheep | that's just firefox being firefox | 15:09 |
| David-A | jaysql: is the disk becoming full? can you see if the laptop is short of ram? (yes, it is a long time trend, many programs use more and more resources, barely noticable, a little at a time) | 15:14 |
| recon_lap | what has happened to my bookmarks on firefox, the menu is now dwarf size and none of the bookmark folders open!! is this happening to just me or everyone? | 16:13 |
| TheSheep | recon_lap: just you | 16:14 |
| drc | I assume you are talking about firefox 20...mine's fine :) | 16:15 |
| recon_lap | yep, FF 20, and my bookmarks are fubar | 16:25 |
| recon_lap | folders dont open :( | 16:25 |
| drc | Test: 1) close FF; 2)rename ~/.mozilla; 3) reopen FF. If it remains the same, uninstall FF (remove new ~/.mozilla) and reinstall. If still the same, dunno :( | 16:27 |
| recon_lap | drc: I'll give that a try. thx for the suggestion | 16:28 |
| David-A | recon_lap: (not a solution, but, make copies of the bookmarkbackups in ~/.mozilla in case your profile is intentionally or unintentionally removed in the process of fixing this) | 16:28 |
| xubuntu241 | hello | 16:36 |
| David-A | welcome, number 241 | 16:36 |
| * drc looks out for number 2, while shouting "I am not a number, especially not 9." | 16:38 | |
| drc | recon_lap: Still having that FF problem? | 16:50 |
| recon_lap | drc: yep, but I've not tried to fix it yet | 16:52 |
| drc | recon_lap: OK, just wondering...have fun. | 16:55 |
| recon_lap | lovely, found the problem, my screen is not wide enough lol | 16:57 |
| drc | recon_lap: you using FF on a phone? :) | 16:58 |
| recon_lap | drc: on, 15.5 inch screen, the folders open if i get the bookmark dropdown in the middle of the screen . | 16:59 |
| drc | huh! | 17:00 |
| recon_lap | seems the want to open left and not right. | 17:00 |
| Inoki | Hi there, does anyone know how to backup GIMP shortcuts? | 19:19 |
| baizon | Inoki: ? | 19:19 |
| baizon | what shortcuts? | 19:19 |
| Inoki | baizon: the regular GIMP shortcuts for tools and such. | 19:19 |
| Inoki | baizon: when you customize GIMP, I mean shortcuts, there has to be a way to back those up. | 19:20 |
| baizon | Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85182/how-do-i-put-back-gimp-scripts-brushes-fonts-etc-after-installing-11-10 | 19:22 |
| Inoki | baizon: thanks but that does not cover GIMP keyboard shortcuts. | 19:23 |
| baizon | Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100360/where-are-keyboard-shortcuts-stored | 19:24 |
| bazhang | try in #gimp Inoki | 19:24 |
| Inoki | bazhang, baizon, thanks guys, I'll try. | 19:25 |
| Inoki | found it, it's under /home/<username>/.gimp-2.8/menurc | 19:34 |
| HerbertWest | hello there | 19:35 |
| HerbertWest | I need to open file manager with root privileges, do u know the cmd for terminal? | 19:37 |
| bazhang | !gksudo | 19:37 |
| ubottu | If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 19:37 |
| HerbertWest | ty iknow that | 19:37 |
| bazhang | and thats it | 19:38 |
| bazhang | a file manager is graphical | 19:38 |
| HerbertWest | yup i know that.. I need filemanager name | 19:38 |
| bazhang | thunar ? | 19:39 |
| HerbertWest | gksu nautilus | 19:39 |
| bazhang | pcmanfm? | 19:39 |
| bazhang | for xubuntu? | 19:39 |
| HerbertWest | for xubuntu | 19:39 |
| bazhang | thunar | 19:39 |
| HerbertWest | ok | 19:39 |
| HerbertWest | done, fi ty | 19:39 |
| bazhang | np | 19:40 |
| HerbertWest | fyi | 19:40 |
| HerbertWest | thunar lol .. I have long time without use xubuntu | 19:40 |
| HerbertWest | tyty | 19:41 |
| amilo-l7310w | hello, i have an old notebook and i just installed xubuntu. The problem is that the usb ports doesn't seem to work | 19:57 |
| holstein | amilo-l7310w: i would test the hardware inependently of the OS | 19:58 |
| amilo-l7310w | if i restart my notebook an plug the mouse into the usb it works but very slowly | 19:59 |
| amilo-l7310w | i have tried many mouses and behave the same | 20:00 |
| amilo-l7310w | holstein you have a point, because i have tried 3 distro of linux and the same problem | 20:03 |
| baizon | well, then its hardware related i think | 20:04 |
| amilo-l7310w | i have to mention that the notebook is new, i have just opened after so many years | 20:05 |
| amilo-l7310w | *it | 20:05 |
| amilo-l7310w | it has 3 usb ports and they behave the same way, they can recognize the mouse (which moves slowly) only if i restart my netbook | 20:08 |
| xubuntu247 | what are the requirments for xubuntu? | 20:13 |
| Unit193 | What do you have? | 20:13 |
| xubuntu247 | its a old toughbook with a p3 in it. im trying to breath new life in it haha | 20:14 |
| bekks | xubuntu247: How much RAM does it have? | 20:15 |
| xubuntu247 | 256 mb | 20:15 |
| bekks | You're better of with lubuntu then. | 20:16 |
| daz646 | New to xubuntu so just saying hi. | 20:16 |
| xubuntu247 | ok thankyou | 20:16 |
| Unit193 | daz646: Howdy! | 20:16 |
| GridCube | O: OH NO | 20:18 |
| GridCube | i didnt realized and updated firefox | 20:18 |
| xubuntu247 | do you know of any other flavors that will work for me? | 20:23 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: Problem? | 20:24 |
| Unit193 | xubuntu247: AntiX, SliTaz, Puppy, maybe siduction, etc. | 20:24 |
| trollboy | Howdy, A quick question.. if I click an icon on the bottom bar, is there a way to make it just bring the currently running app to focus in lieu of launching another copy? | 22:08 |
| David-A | trollboy: you need a dock, there are several, I don't know which is best | 22:10 |
| trollboy | ah, I see.. sorry I thought it was a dock. Thanks David, I'll start shopping! | 22:10 |
| GridCube | trollboy, yes, a dock like docky or avn | 22:11 |
| GridCube | not to be confused with the other avn tho | 22:11 |
| David-A | trollboy: it is just a panel with launchers, with settings not to use the whole width (if yours is not using the whole width, that is) | 22:11 |
| trollboy | Yup I gotcha, thanks. I was just running off a false assumption, I'm dock shopping now. Thanks GridCube I'll check those out, and yeah I've got to the AVN Awards several times so I'm sure I don't need on of those right now | 22:13 |
| David-A | :) I assume you've already googled it with corrected spelling | 22:16 |
| jacklk | Will Xubuntu run on a 2.8GHz Pentium + 1GB RAM? | 22:22 |
| Dr^Fets | likely well | 22:26 |
| Dr^Fets | more than 512mb should be fine | 22:30 |
| Dr^Fets | I am running one system with athlon xp2400 and 1gb | 22:31 |
| Dr^Fets | and a vm with 512mb | 22:31 |
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