[03:30] <DIFTOW> Good morning :)
[03:30] <DIFTOW> I'm a long time
[03:30] <DIFTOW> Fuckin hell, typing in the dark
[03:30] <DIFTOW> :P
[03:30] <DIFTOW> I'm a long time Ubuntu user. Since Hardy something, 7 or 8
[03:31] <holstein> !language | DIFTOW
[03:31] <holstein> DIFTOW: welcome!
[03:31] <DIFTOW> I use the latest Ubuntu on my computer. It's fast, so I could go KDE without any issues.
[03:31] <DIFTOW> But I have another computer in the house for my mother, its actually my old PC from 2003, with a 2005-2006 GPU
[03:32] <DIFTOW> It runs XUbuntu
[03:33] <DIFTOW> CPU is 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 Intel (so Single Core and 32bit); 1 GB of System Ram; 320 GB HDD PATA 7200 RPM; Nvidia 7300 GT (8x AGP, 512 MB vRam, DX9, don't know clock)
[03:33] <DIFTOW> When running Firefox and the system monitor, 26% of the Ram is used. That leaves enough for something else to run, surely.
[03:34] <DIFTOW> The computer is able to run Amnesia: The Dark Descent on 720p medium graphics with decent frame rate.
[03:34] <DIFTOW> The issue is that, it seems to have trouble running Farmville 1 and 2, and probably flash in general, but especially those flash apps.
[03:35] <holstein> DIFTOW: i use chrome.. not chromium. the actual google-chrome browser.. chrome has the most recent version of flash that is available to linux
[03:35] <DIFTOW> Now, I personally think Farmville is an abomination of a game, but my mom like most middle aged chicks seem to like this crap. I find it sad that superior games can run, and this crap can't, but I'd like to see what can be done to improve performance for it.
[03:35] <holstein> http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[03:36] <holstein> DIFTOW: try chrome
[03:36] <DIFTOW> Alright
[03:36] <DIFTOW> Was using Firefox, I'll try Chrome.
[03:36] <DIFTOW> Does flash run better under chrome?
[03:36] <holstein> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[03:37] <Unit193> You can also technically use it under chromium if you prefer.
[03:37] <holstein> DIFTOW: as i said, and the link above states... adobe provides chrome with the current version of flash..
[03:37] <holstein> Unit193: oh yeah!.. you can copy the flash player out of chrome to chromium.. i forget about that, DIFTOW
[03:37] <Unit193> Otherwise, you'll only get security updates to 11.2.
[03:38] <holstein> DIFTOW: but, for you, i would just install google-chrome real quick and test.. then, if you like it, and prefer chromium, you can get that flash player to work in chromium
[03:39] <DIFTOW> Alright, Chrome and Chromium are separate though?
[03:39] <Unit193> Yep.
[03:39] <DIFTOW> Right now I'm installing Chrome.
[03:39] <DIFTOW> What is the difference?
[03:39] <holstein> DIFTOW: chrome may be downloaded by the link i gave.. chromium is in the default repos
[03:39] <holstein> !info | chromium
[03:39] <Unit193> One is open source, another isn't.
[03:39] <holstein> !info | chromium-browser
[03:40] <Unit193> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome here it is.
[03:40] <Unit193> !info chromium-browser
[03:41] <holstein> not sure why im piping...
[03:41] <DIFTOW> alright
[03:41] <DIFTOW> I have both
[03:41] <DIFTOW> ill try Chrome first
[03:42] <Unit193> holstein: No idea.  Tracking is the main difference, and I didn't know chromium supported less audio/video codecs.
[03:44] <DIFTOW> Firefox needs to get it together
[03:44] <DIFTOW> Starting to remind me of my bad memories with IE
[03:44] <xubuntu644> Any ideas why my computer can't load xubuntu 64 bit?
[03:44] <holstein> DIFTOW: flash support has nothing to do with ff
[03:45] <DIFTOW> Firefox though has had lots of issues though in the past.
[03:45] <DIFTOW> Memory leaks
[03:45] <DIFTOW> Java
[03:45] <DIFTOW> When other browsers didn't.
[03:46] <holstein> xubuntu644: but it can load the 32bit version?
[03:46] <DIFTOW> i have to close this out to give the computer maximum cpu/ram
[03:46] <DIFTOW> ill be back
[04:05] <DIFTOW> Back
[04:10] <DIFTOW> Ive checked the Nvidia documentation for the 304 experimental driver
[04:10] <DIFTOW> And it says it supports the 7300 GT model
[04:11] <DIFTOW> But when I'm on the Farmville page, it says it doesn't detect graphics acceleration.
[04:12] <DIFTOW> So, if I can fix that, performance should improve greatly.
[04:12] <DIFTOW> Standard games appear to utilise graphics acceleration, or they'd lag just as bad, so its obvious that the browser or flash is not detecting it.
[04:18] <DIFTOW> Without the GPU im working with 1 GB of Ram, and a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4
[04:18] <DIFTOW> With the GPU: 350 Mhz clock, 333 Mhz memory clock, 512 Mb ram, 4x AGP
[04:18] <DIFTOW> Dinosaur hardware, but can make a huge difference with an app like this.
[04:19] <DIFTOW> If it can run Amnesia in 720p, then it can run this crappy flash game. But I need graphics acceleration.
[04:28] <DIFTOW> It won't even run youtube without lag.
[04:28] <DIFTOW> But I can play a DVD full screen.
[04:28] <DIFTOW> So its definitely Flash
[04:53] <DIFTOW> Yeah, i checked video info in youtube
[04:53] <DIFTOW> its using software rendering and software decoding
[04:53] <DIFTOW> No hardware acceleration at all! O_o
[04:53] <DIFTOW> This is bull
[05:35] <heoyea> use youtube-viewer
[05:36] <DIFTOW> Hmm
[05:36] <DIFTOW> Is there anything for Farmville?
[05:37] <DIFTOW> Trying to save my mother from throwing a perfectly good computer away.
[05:37] <DIFTOW> IF it can run TF2 and CSS, its not worth trashing if she only wants to play a stupid flash game.
[05:39] <DIFTOW> Youtube-viewer doesn't show up btw
[05:51] <heoyea> on github
[05:52] <heoyea> farmville, just get an offline game, install wine and play 1 of those similar
[05:55] <DIFTOW> its not for me
[05:55] <DIFTOW> Its my mother
[05:55] <DIFTOW> i wouldnt waste my time on a crappy game like farmville, its her that loves it so much
[14:52] <jaysql> all of a sudden after a few upgrades, xubuntu has become a bloat on my lapto
[14:52] <TheSheep> how?
[14:53] <jaysql> idont know
[14:55] <drc> OK: 1) Define upgrades; do you mean from 11.10 ->12.04 ->12.10 ->13.04B or application updates; say firefox 19 -> firefox 20.  2) define bloat.
[14:56] <jaysql> i think i downloaded 12.10 in january
[14:56] <jaysql> it ran fine for a while, recently i just been doing apt-get update, then upgrade without seeing things
[14:57] <jaysql> but with firefox especially its slow.. probably since 19.02 update
[15:09] <TheSheep> firefox is slow, especially if you have a lot of extensions installed
[15:09] <TheSheep> that's just firefox being firefox
[15:14] <David-A> jaysql: is the disk becoming full? can you see if the laptop is short of ram? (yes, it is a long time trend, many programs use more and more resources, barely noticable, a little at a time)
[16:13] <recon_lap> what has happened to my bookmarks on firefox, the menu is now dwarf size and none of the bookmark folders open!! is this happening to just me or everyone?
[16:14] <TheSheep> recon_lap: just you
[16:15] <drc> I assume you are talking about firefox 20...mine's fine :)
[16:25] <recon_lap> yep, FF 20, and my bookmarks are fubar
[16:25] <recon_lap> folders dont open :(
[16:27] <drc> Test: 1) close FF; 2)rename ~/.mozilla; 3) reopen FF.  If it remains the same, uninstall FF (remove new ~/.mozilla) and reinstall. If still the same, dunno :(
[16:28] <recon_lap> drc: I'll give that a try. thx for the suggestion
[16:28] <David-A> recon_lap: (not a solution, but, make copies of the bookmarkbackups in ~/.mozilla in case your profile is intentionally or unintentionally removed in the process of fixing this)
[16:36] <xubuntu241> hello
[16:36] <David-A> welcome, number 241
[16:38]  * drc looks out for number 2, while shouting "I am not a number, especially not 9."
[16:50] <drc> recon_lap: Still having that FF problem?
[16:52] <recon_lap> drc: yep, but I've not tried to fix it yet
[16:55] <drc> recon_lap: OK, just wondering...have fun.
[16:57] <recon_lap> lovely, found the problem, my screen is not wide enough lol
[16:58] <drc> recon_lap: you using FF on a phone? :)
[16:59] <recon_lap> drc: on, 15.5 inch screen, the folders open if i get the bookmark dropdown in the middle of the screen .
[17:00] <drc> huh!
[17:00] <recon_lap> seems the want to open left and not right.
[19:19] <Inoki> Hi there, does anyone know how to backup GIMP shortcuts?
[19:19] <baizon> Inoki: ?
[19:19] <baizon> what shortcuts?
[19:19] <Inoki> baizon: the regular GIMP shortcuts for tools and such.
[19:20] <Inoki> baizon: when you customize GIMP, I mean shortcuts, there has to be a way to back those up.
[19:22] <baizon> Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85182/how-do-i-put-back-gimp-scripts-brushes-fonts-etc-after-installing-11-10
[19:23] <Inoki> baizon: thanks but that does not cover GIMP keyboard shortcuts.
[19:24] <baizon> Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100360/where-are-keyboard-shortcuts-stored
[19:24] <bazhang> try in #gimp Inoki
[19:25] <Inoki> bazhang, baizon, thanks guys, I'll try.
[19:34] <Inoki> found it, it's under /home/<username>/.gimp-2.8/menurc
[19:35] <HerbertWest> hello there
[19:37] <HerbertWest> I need to open file manager with root privileges, do u know the cmd for terminal?
[19:37] <bazhang> !gksudo
[19:37] <HerbertWest> ty iknow that
[19:38] <bazhang> and thats it
[19:38] <bazhang> a file manager is graphical
[19:38] <HerbertWest> yup i know that.. I need filemanager name
[19:39] <bazhang> thunar ?
[19:39] <HerbertWest> gksu nautilus
[19:39] <bazhang> pcmanfm?
[19:39] <bazhang> for xubuntu?
[19:39] <HerbertWest> for xubuntu
[19:39] <bazhang> thunar
[19:39] <HerbertWest> ok
[19:39] <HerbertWest> done, fi ty
[19:40] <bazhang> np
[19:40] <HerbertWest> fyi
[19:40] <HerbertWest> thunar lol .. I have long time without use xubuntu
[19:41] <HerbertWest> tyty
[19:57] <amilo-l7310w> hello, i have an old notebook and i just installed xubuntu. The problem is that the usb ports doesn't seem to work
[19:58] <holstein> amilo-l7310w: i would test the hardware inependently of the OS
[19:59] <amilo-l7310w> if i restart my notebook an plug  the mouse into the usb it works but very slowly
[20:00] <amilo-l7310w> i have tried many mouses and behave the same
[20:03] <amilo-l7310w> holstein you have a point, because i have tried 3 distro of linux and the same problem
[20:04] <baizon> well, then its hardware related i think
[20:05] <amilo-l7310w> i have to mention that the notebook is new, i have just opened after so many years
[20:05] <amilo-l7310w> *it
[20:08] <amilo-l7310w> it has 3 usb ports and they behave the same way, they can recognize the mouse (which moves slowly) only if i restart my netbook
[20:13] <xubuntu247> what are the requirments for xubuntu?
[20:13] <Unit193> What do you have?
[20:14] <xubuntu247> its a old toughbook with a p3 in it. im trying to breath new life in it haha
[20:15] <bekks> xubuntu247: How much RAM does it have?
[20:15] <xubuntu247> 256 mb
[20:16] <bekks> You're better of with lubuntu then.
[20:16] <daz646> New to xubuntu so just saying hi.
[20:16] <xubuntu247> ok thankyou
[20:16] <Unit193> daz646: Howdy!
[20:18] <GridCube> O: OH NO
[20:18] <GridCube> i didnt realized and updated firefox
[20:23] <xubuntu247> do you know of any other flavors that will work for me?
[20:24] <Unit193> GridCube: Problem?
[20:24] <Unit193> xubuntu247: AntiX, SliTaz, Puppy, maybe siduction, etc.
[22:08] <trollboy> Howdy, A quick question.. if I click an icon on the bottom bar, is there a way to make it just bring the currently running app to focus in lieu of launching another copy?
[22:10] <David-A> trollboy: you need a dock, there are several, I don't know which is best
[22:10] <trollboy> ah, I see.. sorry I thought it was a dock.  Thanks David, I'll start shopping!
[22:11] <GridCube> trollboy, yes, a dock like docky or avn
[22:11] <GridCube> not to be confused with the other avn tho
[22:11] <David-A> trollboy: it is just a panel with launchers, with settings not to use the whole width (if yours is not using the whole width, that is)
[22:13] <trollboy> Yup I gotcha, thanks.  I was just running off a false assumption, I'm dock shopping now.  Thanks GridCube I'll check those out, and yeah I've got to the AVN Awards several times so I'm sure I don't need on of those right now
[22:16] <David-A> :) I assume you've already googled it with corrected spelling
[22:22] <jacklk> Will Xubuntu run on a 2.8GHz Pentium + 1GB RAM?
[22:26] <Dr^Fets> likely well
[22:30] <Dr^Fets> more than 512mb should be fine
[22:31] <Dr^Fets> I am running one system with athlon xp2400 and 1gb
[22:31] <Dr^Fets> and a vm with 512mb