=== xGrind is now known as Guest69261 [03:30] Good morning :) [03:30] I'm a long time [03:30] Fuckin hell, typing in the dark [03:30] :P [03:30] I'm a long time Ubuntu user. Since Hardy something, 7 or 8 [03:31] !language | DIFTOW [03:31] DIFTOW: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [03:31] DIFTOW: welcome! [03:31] I use the latest Ubuntu on my computer. It's fast, so I could go KDE without any issues. [03:31] But I have another computer in the house for my mother, its actually my old PC from 2003, with a 2005-2006 GPU [03:32] It runs XUbuntu [03:33] CPU is 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 Intel (so Single Core and 32bit); 1 GB of System Ram; 320 GB HDD PATA 7200 RPM; Nvidia 7300 GT (8x AGP, 512 MB vRam, DX9, don't know clock) [03:33] When running Firefox and the system monitor, 26% of the Ram is used. That leaves enough for something else to run, surely. [03:34] The computer is able to run Amnesia: The Dark Descent on 720p medium graphics with decent frame rate. [03:34] The issue is that, it seems to have trouble running Farmville 1 and 2, and probably flash in general, but especially those flash apps. [03:35] DIFTOW: i use chrome.. not chromium. the actual google-chrome browser.. chrome has the most recent version of flash that is available to linux [03:35] Now, I personally think Farmville is an abomination of a game, but my mom like most middle aged chicks seem to like this crap. I find it sad that superior games can run, and this crap can't, but I'd like to see what can be done to improve performance for it. [03:35] http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ [03:36] DIFTOW: try chrome [03:36] Alright [03:36] Was using Firefox, I'll try Chrome. [03:36] Does flash run better under chrome? [03:36] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/ [03:37] You can also technically use it under chromium if you prefer. [03:37] DIFTOW: as i said, and the link above states... adobe provides chrome with the current version of flash.. [03:37] Unit193: oh yeah!.. you can copy the flash player out of chrome to chromium.. i forget about that, DIFTOW [03:37] Otherwise, you'll only get security updates to 11.2. [03:38] DIFTOW: but, for you, i would just install google-chrome real quick and test.. then, if you like it, and prefer chromium, you can get that flash player to work in chromium [03:39] Alright, Chrome and Chromium are separate though? [03:39] Yep. [03:39] Right now I'm installing Chrome. [03:39] What is the difference? [03:39] DIFTOW: chrome may be downloaded by the link i gave.. chromium is in the default repos [03:39] !info | chromium [03:39] 'chromium' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable [03:39] One is open source, another isn't. [03:39] !info | chromium-browser [03:39] 'chromium-browser' is not a valid distribution: extras, hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, raring, raring-backports, raring-proposed, stable, testing, unstable [03:40] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome here it is. [03:40] !info chromium-browser [03:40] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium browser. In component universe, is optional. Version 25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu0.12.10.1 (quantal), package size 26084 kB, installed size 95401 kB [03:41] not sure why im piping... [03:41] alright [03:41] I have both [03:41] ill try Chrome first [03:42] holstein: No idea. Tracking is the main difference, and I didn't know chromium supported less audio/video codecs. [03:44] Firefox needs to get it together [03:44] Starting to remind me of my bad memories with IE [03:44] Any ideas why my computer can't load xubuntu 64 bit? [03:44] DIFTOW: flash support has nothing to do with ff [03:45] Firefox though has had lots of issues though in the past. [03:45] Memory leaks [03:45] Java [03:45] When other browsers didn't. [03:46] xubuntu644: but it can load the 32bit version? [03:46] i have to close this out to give the computer maximum cpu/ram [03:46] ill be back [04:05] Back [04:10] Ive checked the Nvidia documentation for the 304 experimental driver [04:10] And it says it supports the 7300 GT model [04:11] But when I'm on the Farmville page, it says it doesn't detect graphics acceleration. [04:12] So, if I can fix that, performance should improve greatly. [04:12] Standard games appear to utilise graphics acceleration, or they'd lag just as bad, so its obvious that the browser or flash is not detecting it. [04:18] Without the GPU im working with 1 GB of Ram, and a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4 [04:18] With the GPU: 350 Mhz clock, 333 Mhz memory clock, 512 Mb ram, 4x AGP [04:18] Dinosaur hardware, but can make a huge difference with an app like this. [04:19] If it can run Amnesia in 720p, then it can run this crappy flash game. But I need graphics acceleration. [04:28] It won't even run youtube without lag. [04:28] But I can play a DVD full screen. [04:28] So its definitely Flash [04:53] Yeah, i checked video info in youtube [04:53] its using software rendering and software decoding [04:53] No hardware acceleration at all! O_o [04:53] This is bull [05:35] use youtube-viewer [05:36] Hmm [05:36] Is there anything for Farmville? [05:37] Trying to save my mother from throwing a perfectly good computer away. [05:37] IF it can run TF2 and CSS, its not worth trashing if she only wants to play a stupid flash game. [05:39] Youtube-viewer doesn't show up btw [05:51] on github [05:52] farmville, just get an offline game, install wine and play 1 of those similar [05:55] its not for me [05:55] Its my mother [05:55] i wouldnt waste my time on a crappy game like farmville, its her that loves it so much === moruk is now known as xenox === xenox is now known as moruk === azeam_afk is now known as azeam [14:52] all of a sudden after a few upgrades, xubuntu has become a bloat on my lapto [14:52] how? [14:53] idont know [14:55] OK: 1) Define upgrades; do you mean from 11.10 ->12.04 ->12.10 ->13.04B or application updates; say firefox 19 -> firefox 20. 2) define bloat. [14:56] i think i downloaded 12.10 in january [14:56] it ran fine for a while, recently i just been doing apt-get update, then upgrade without seeing things [14:57] but with firefox especially its slow.. probably since 19.02 update [15:09] firefox is slow, especially if you have a lot of extensions installed [15:09] that's just firefox being firefox [15:14] jaysql: is the disk becoming full? can you see if the laptop is short of ram? (yes, it is a long time trend, many programs use more and more resources, barely noticable, a little at a time) [16:13] what has happened to my bookmarks on firefox, the menu is now dwarf size and none of the bookmark folders open!! is this happening to just me or everyone? [16:14] recon_lap: just you [16:15] I assume you are talking about firefox 20...mine's fine :) [16:25] yep, FF 20, and my bookmarks are fubar [16:25] folders dont open :( [16:27] Test: 1) close FF; 2)rename ~/.mozilla; 3) reopen FF. If it remains the same, uninstall FF (remove new ~/.mozilla) and reinstall. If still the same, dunno :( [16:28] drc: I'll give that a try. thx for the suggestion [16:28] recon_lap: (not a solution, but, make copies of the bookmarkbackups in ~/.mozilla in case your profile is intentionally or unintentionally removed in the process of fixing this) [16:36] hello [16:36] welcome, number 241 [16:38] * drc looks out for number 2, while shouting "I am not a number, especially not 9." [16:50] recon_lap: Still having that FF problem? [16:52] drc: yep, but I've not tried to fix it yet [16:55] recon_lap: OK, just wondering...have fun. [16:57] lovely, found the problem, my screen is not wide enough lol [16:58] recon_lap: you using FF on a phone? :) [16:59] drc: on, 15.5 inch screen, the folders open if i get the bookmark dropdown in the middle of the screen . [17:00] huh! [17:00] seems the want to open left and not right. [19:19] Hi there, does anyone know how to backup GIMP shortcuts? [19:19] Inoki: ? [19:19] what shortcuts? [19:19] baizon: the regular GIMP shortcuts for tools and such. [19:20] baizon: when you customize GIMP, I mean shortcuts, there has to be a way to back those up. [19:22] Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/85182/how-do-i-put-back-gimp-scripts-brushes-fonts-etc-after-installing-11-10 [19:23] baizon: thanks but that does not cover GIMP keyboard shortcuts. [19:24] Inoki: http://askubuntu.com/questions/100360/where-are-keyboard-shortcuts-stored [19:24] try in #gimp Inoki [19:25] bazhang, baizon, thanks guys, I'll try. [19:34] found it, it's under /home//.gimp-2.8/menurc [19:35] hello there [19:37] I need to open file manager with root privileges, do u know the cmd for terminal? [19:37] !gksudo [19:37] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [19:37] ty iknow that [19:38] and thats it [19:38] a file manager is graphical [19:38] yup i know that.. I need filemanager name [19:39] thunar ? [19:39] gksu nautilus [19:39] pcmanfm? [19:39] for xubuntu? [19:39] for xubuntu [19:39] thunar [19:39] ok [19:39] done, fi ty [19:40] np [19:40] fyi [19:40] thunar lol .. I have long time without use xubuntu [19:41] tyty [19:57] hello, i have an old notebook and i just installed xubuntu. The problem is that the usb ports doesn't seem to work [19:58] amilo-l7310w: i would test the hardware inependently of the OS [19:59] if i restart my notebook an plug the mouse into the usb it works but very slowly [20:00] i have tried many mouses and behave the same [20:03] holstein you have a point, because i have tried 3 distro of linux and the same problem [20:04] well, then its hardware related i think [20:05] i have to mention that the notebook is new, i have just opened after so many years [20:05] *it [20:08] it has 3 usb ports and they behave the same way, they can recognize the mouse (which moves slowly) only if i restart my netbook [20:13] what are the requirments for xubuntu? [20:13] What do you have? [20:14] its a old toughbook with a p3 in it. im trying to breath new life in it haha [20:15] xubuntu247: How much RAM does it have? [20:15] 256 mb [20:16] You're better of with lubuntu then. [20:16] New to xubuntu so just saying hi. [20:16] ok thankyou [20:16] daz646: Howdy! [20:18] O: OH NO [20:18] i didnt realized and updated firefox [20:23] do you know of any other flavors that will work for me? [20:24] GridCube: Problem? [20:24] xubuntu247: AntiX, SliTaz, Puppy, maybe siduction, etc. [22:08] Howdy, A quick question.. if I click an icon on the bottom bar, is there a way to make it just bring the currently running app to focus in lieu of launching another copy? [22:10] trollboy: you need a dock, there are several, I don't know which is best [22:10] ah, I see.. sorry I thought it was a dock. Thanks David, I'll start shopping! [22:11] trollboy, yes, a dock like docky or avn [22:11] not to be confused with the other avn tho [22:11] trollboy: it is just a panel with launchers, with settings not to use the whole width (if yours is not using the whole width, that is) [22:13] Yup I gotcha, thanks. I was just running off a false assumption, I'm dock shopping now. Thanks GridCube I'll check those out, and yeah I've got to the AVN Awards several times so I'm sure I don't need on of those right now [22:16] :) I assume you've already googled it with corrected spelling [22:22] Will Xubuntu run on a 2.8GHz Pentium + 1GB RAM? [22:26] likely well [22:30] more than 512mb should be fine [22:31] I am running one system with athlon xp2400 and 1gb [22:31] and a vm with 512mb