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| valorie | I was just testing skype for a person in #kubuntu in 13.04 -- seems ok in 32-bit, but sound is horrible in 64-bit | 08:24 |
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| valorie | tbh, I didn't test the sound in 32-bit, but it didn't core-dump like it did for the person in #k | 08:24 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: How many 4.10.2 updates have you received now? | 09:11 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 09:12 |
| smartboyhw_ | Hello lordievader:) | 09:13 |
| lordievader | Hey smartboyhw_, how are you doing today? | 09:14 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: good. | 09:18 |
| lordievader | :) | 09:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: Can you do some flavour for me and change the "IS RELEASED" on the topic to just "is"? You don't need op for that. | 09:26 |
| lordievader | smartboyhw_: I have never changed a topic before... | 09:26 |
| lordievader | Is the command /topic "new topic"? | 09:27 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: Try. | 09:27 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: /TOPIC #kubuntu-devel (topic) | 09:28 |
| === lordievader changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 is OFFICIALLY released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/beta-2 | ||
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader um delete the OFFICIALLY please:) | 09:30 |
| lordievader | smartboyhw_: Ah keep the link? | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: Just delete the word OFFICIALLY. | 09:31 |
| smartboyhw_ | Keep the link. | 09:31 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: still incomplete, | 09:31 |
| Mamarok | kde-workspace kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-data-extras kdeartwork kdenetwork kdeplasma-addons kdetoys kscreensaver-xsavers-extra kscreensaver-xsavers-webcollage plasma-scriptengines are held back | 09:31 |
| === lordievader changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas http://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.2_raring.html | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 is released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/beta-2 | ||
| lordievader | smartboyhw_: Like so? | 09:32 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Upgrade QA : http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | https://trello.com/kubuntu | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas | Go test konvi 1.5 ! | Kubuntu 13.04 Beta 2 is released http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.04/beta-2 | ||
| Mamarok | so not all 250+ packages yet | 09:33 |
| Mamarok | yofel: why did you remove the raring status? It's stil pretty incomplete | 09:33 |
| Mamarok | apparently google gadgets are still makred as a dependency, wasn't that removed already? | 09:34 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok um why not? | 09:36 |
| smartboyhw_ | lordievader: Thanks8 | 09:36 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: Seems some dependency isuses, and when I try to install kde-workspace it tries to remove all metapackages | 09:37 |
| Mamarok | installing the rest, will tell you exactly what is wrong in a few minutes | 09:37 |
| lordievader | smartboyhw_: Hehe, no problem ;) | 09:38 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok that's weird. | 09:41 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok our status page doesn't have build errors, just the lintian errors. | 09:41 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: What metapackages does it want to remove? | 09:41 |
| Mamarok | kubuntu-desktop and the other kubuntu-* ones | 09:42 |
| Mamarok | but I will tell you exactly what is wrong in a minute, when the current dpkg is done | 09:43 |
| * smartboyhw_ didn't expect KDE SC 4.10.2 packaging will be such a problem compared to the previous ones. | 09:43 | |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: Probably there is some problem with the source metapackage kubuntu-meta | 09:44 |
| Mamarok | yofel: apparently it still looking for the obsolete google gadgets, at leat that what cmake says, and I am pretty sure I have seen them removed in master | 09:44 |
| smartboyhw_ | But then the last version is me adding plasma-mediacenter into active. Can't be. | 09:44 |
| Mamarok | as a dependency, but maybe after the 4.10.2 was tagged | 09:44 |
| Mamarok | here we go: http://paste.kde.org/717722/ | 09:47 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: Maybe they aren't uploaded or accepted into the queue or got build errors. Lemme check. | 09:51 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: Eee there are upload problems with kde-workspace . | 09:53 |
| smartboyhw_ | amd64 | 09:55 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: Clearly the amd64 package wasn't fully built. | 09:57 |
| yofel | Mamarok: that's the raring PPA status, *that* is done | 09:58 |
| yofel | I need to add a check for missing packages to that script and add support for tracking the archive at some point | 09:59 |
| yofel | but that's for next time | 09:59 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: I'm checking what's the problem with kde-workspace | 09:59 |
| yofel | INFO Upload was rejected: | 10:00 |
| yofel | INFO Server said: | 10:00 |
| yofel | LUUUUNNNNNCCCHHPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD | 10:00 |
| * yofel retries | 10:01 | |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: OK | 10:02 |
| yofel | hm... | 10:05 |
| yofel | there's plenty 4.10.2 missing in raring | 10:06 |
| yofel | at least when going by the upload mails in raring-changes | 10:06 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: Yesterday one guy asked why Ubuntu Studio doesn't use Unity. I and zequence (our Project Lead) wrote our longest G+ comments to rebutt him:P | 10:06 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: DAMN | 10:07 |
| smartboyhw_ | Somebody take off the 4.10.2 announcement please (AGAIN)… | 10:07 |
| smartboyhw_ | Riddell, shadeslayer: ^ | 10:08 |
| Mamarok | *sigh*, why do you folks not TEST stuff before you make announcements? | 10:10 |
| Mamarok | I didn't say it worked AFAICR | 10:11 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: wait | 10:11 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: Be | 10:11 |
| smartboyhw_ | because it DOES work in Ninjas PPA | 10:11 |
| yofel | Mamarok: we usually do test - this time for some reason things went wrong AFTER testing | 10:12 |
| yofel | partly because launchpad became a bit unreable lately | 10:12 |
| yofel | *unreliably | 10:12 |
| yofel | *unreliable | 10:12 |
| yofel | -.- | 10:12 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: +1 | 10:12 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: ninja is not a valid test apparnetly, I have seen numerous build problems in backports in the past | 10:12 |
| Mamarok | next time ask me to test the backports PPA before publishing announcements | 10:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: nevermind, seems like some mails vanished here | 10:13 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: so it looks up | 10:13 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: Go to #launchpad and complain? :P | 10:13 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: We will do it:) But we can't ensure for Raring. If you want test, enable -proposed | 10:14 |
| yofel | Mamarok: managing our backports has quite a few pitfalls lately. So I'm partly to blame for not writing those down before Riddell fell for them | 10:15 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: there have been so many problems between ninja and final in the past, I found a lot of them, so don't publish until you really have tested the ebd location | 10:15 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: It is extremely well when we do 4.10 and 4.10.1. | 10:16 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: well, maybe, but there have been problems in the past, so not testing is stupid | 10:16 |
| Mamarok | and as I said, you need to test the final location before publishing | 10:16 |
| yofel | Mamarok: that's not *his* fault alone | 10:17 |
| Mamarok | else that is not what I call testing | 10:17 |
| Mamarok | yofel: I didn't say it was | 10:17 |
| Mamarok | I said *folks*, not a name | 10:17 |
| yofel | ah ok | 10:17 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: And when we put it in -backports people might have been upgraded before we can finish off the testing in -backports. | 10:17 |
| yofel | I do test when I publish the backports. Problem was that I was *theoretically* on vacation last week | 10:17 |
| Mamarok | yofel: I know | 10:18 |
| Mamarok | why not ask me? I am usually around | 10:18 |
| Mamarok | just don't ask me to build packages | 10:18 |
| smartboyhw_ | And you can't blame me anyway, I didn't do the packaging for 4.10.2. Just that people have lifes. | 10:18 |
| yofel | heh, sure :) | 10:18 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: LOL please learn:) | 10:18 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: I didn't blame you | 10:18 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: We do make mistakes. | 10:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | We didn't ex | 10:19 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: nah, I hat the debian build system with passion, I never managed to build something working | 10:19 |
| smartboyhw_ | pect it to go so wring | 10:19 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: stop appologizing, that is not going anywhere,let's just do the tests correctly, again, I didn't blame you for anything | 10:19 |
| Mamarok | it is our way of testing that is not good apparently | 10:19 |
| Mamarok | one person is not enough | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: I cant now anyway | 10:20 |
| smartboyhw_ | !testers | please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in raring-proposed and the Backports PPA | 10:20 |
| ubottu | please test KDE SC 4.10.2 in raring-proposed and the Backports PPA: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. | 10:20 |
| Mamarok | yofel: so what should I enable to test? | 10:21 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: I know that | 10:21 |
| Mamarok | is there a wiki page detailing the steps? That should be in that testers call | 10:21 |
| Mamarok | "in raring-proposed" is unknown to me, so where and how? | 10:22 |
| smartboyhw_ | OK we need to put Mamarok in the testers factoid. | 10:22 |
| yofel | wait | 10:22 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: no | 10:22 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: I can't give help, I need instructions | 10:22 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: I'm not sure whether we should call for testing in -proposed | 10:22 |
| lordievader | I can test this, will take a while though. Old raring install. | 10:22 |
| lordievader | But I too need to know what to enable. | 10:23 |
| * Mamarok waits for isntructions, a wiki or a website, anything... | 10:23 | |
| smartboyhw_ | ubottu: no !testers #kubuntu-devel is <reply>: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader for information. | 10:23 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: don't add me in there | 10:24 |
| yofel | also wait | 10:24 |
| Mamarok | and without a link to precise isntructions that factoid is pointless | 10:24 |
| yofel | there's no sense in testing raring until kde-workspace amd64 is done | 10:24 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: Mamarok: I will add a wiki link when you give me one | 10:24 |
| smartboyhw_ | Tm_T: please hold the factoid. | 10:24 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: I am the one needing to know, don't ask me :) | 10:25 |
| Mamarok | *sigh* at so much confusion, could we talk less and just give the isntructions correctly? | 10:25 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: That would be helpfull :) | 10:25 |
| yofel | that's why I said, wait | 10:25 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: :p The problem is that there mighr not be one. | 10:25 |
| Mamarok | smartboyhw_: please stop highlighting me | 10:25 |
| Mamarok | that is very annoying, I am reading | 10:26 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: OK. | 10:26 |
| * smartboyhw_ has never been told off of highlighting people... | 10:26 | |
| smartboyhw_ | Anyways. | 10:26 |
| yofel | -proposed is meant as an embargo location for packages while they haven't finished building | 10:26 |
| yofel | so lets wait till kde-workspace is done, then test raring WITHOUT proposed | 10:27 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel: OK. | 10:27 |
| lordievader | yofel: So let me get this staight, update without enabeling any extra repo's? | 10:28 |
| yofel | lordievader: right, but only once https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/4:4.10.2-0ubuntu1 reaches 'release' | 10:28 |
| yofel | currently it's in 'proposed' | 10:29 |
| lordievader | Sounds like a plan :) | 10:29 |
| Mamarok | lordievader: can you ping me if you see it earlier? | 10:32 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: Will do. | 10:33 |
| smartboyhw_ | Need to go for dinner, see ya. | 10:35 |
| Quintasan | ugh | 10:35 |
| Quintasan | wat | 10:41 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: ping | 10:42 |
| smartboyhw | Hello! About to eat dinner at a Chinese restaurant:) | 11:18 |
| smartboyhw | Is kde-workspace amd64 built? | 11:19 |
| Mamarok | nope | 11:19 |
| Mamarok | still building | 11:20 |
| Mamarok | do you want a ping when it is done? | 11:20 |
| yofel | finished building now, now it needs to be published, accepted to release by britney. Will take a bit | 11:21 |
| lordievader | How long does something like this normally take? | 11:21 |
| yofel | kde-workspace needs at least an hour to build, the publishing usually at most half an hour. But I'm not sure how fast britney ist with the release move | 11:22 |
| Mamarok | is britney a bot or a person? | 11:23 |
| yofel | bot, a modified version of the software that handles the unstable->testing move in debian | 11:23 |
| lordievader | Ok thank you, yofel :) | 11:24 |
| yofel | geh, we need to test MESA https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-April/037008.html | 11:34 |
| Mamarok | OK, 50 more packages showing up now, kdeartwork kdenetwork kdeplasma-addons kdetoys kscreensaver-xsavers-extra kscreensaver-xsavers-webcollage still held back | 11:59 |
| Mamarok | lordievader: ^ | 11:59 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: Ah it is released :). | 12:04 |
| Mamarok | now I have this http://paste.kde.org/717752/ | 12:10 |
| lordievader | Phew that is going to take a while 227 packages that can be upgraded. | 12:14 |
| Mamarok | lordievader: well, still some missing stuff | 12:15 |
| Mamarok | I upgraded over 250 by now | 12:16 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: We'll see how far this goes, and if it succeeds... | 12:16 |
| * Mamarok shakes fist at Arch for screwing up their Amarok package... | 12:17 | |
| lordievader | I'm going to go to the supermarket, be back later. | 12:17 |
| Mamarok | 10 days ago, and still not fixed, and tehy call themselves a Linux distro | 12:17 |
| Mamarok | oh wow, the Ubuntu wiki is terribly slow in saving a small edit | 12:22 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 12:30 |
| yofel | Mamarok: most of those packages should be dep-wait on kde-workspace. Should fix itself in a few hours | 12:30 |
| * yofel off | 12:30 | |
| lordievader | Back, lets see where the update is. | 12:45 |
| lordievader | Update is done without errors. | 12:45 |
| lordievader | Running 4.10.2 on that machine, rebooted and logged in without problems. | 12:49 |
| Mamarok | I still have 6 packages held back | 12:55 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: Dist-upgrade wont install them either? | 12:56 |
| Mamarok | only one of them | 12:56 |
| smartboyhw | will disconnect, back at home and switch to wifi | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 13:29 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: pong | 13:35 |
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| Mamarok | now I have all the packages, 28 were missing | 16:37 |
| smartboyhw_ | Mamarok: \o/ | 16:45 |
| Mamarok | 22 actually, part were others | 16:45 |
| Mamarok | OK, food now | 16:45 |
| smartboyhw_ | yofel + shadeslayer uh hum look at http://kubuntu-qa.dyndns.org/ | 17:20 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: that is not actually doing anything productive | 17:27 |
| yofel | (yet) | 17:27 |
| yofel | smartboyhw_: my test runs still yield very varying results, like http://kyofel2.dyndns.org/upgrade0/ or http://yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/upgrade2/ | 17:28 |
| yofel | that should MATCH | 17:28 |
| Mamarok | hm, restarting KDE after the upgrade, my external monitor is not used anymore, although the kcm shows the correct settings. All I get is a "Display port no signal" message on the monitor. Hardware works, that only happens when starting KDE | 17:43 |
| Mamarok | I have to unify the outputs and then reconfigure the monitor to make it work correctly, on loging out and back in again all is lost | 17:46 |
| * Mamarok tries to find the config file for that | 17:46 | |
| yofel | kscreen has config files in .kde/share/apps/kscreen/ | 17:46 |
| yofel | named by some profile hash | 17:46 |
| Mamarok | yes, and strangely I have two of them, one only has the primary screen configured | 17:48 |
| Mamarok | would erasing that one help? The date is from a week ago, strange enough | 17:49 |
| Mamarok | the other file from a few minutes ago, has both configurations | 17:49 |
| Mamarok | lordievader: what is this Quest guy doing, learning to administer a server? He should maybe read the LPI 101 first | 17:53 |
| yofel | no idea, afiestas_ would know what's stored in those files | 17:53 |
| Mamarok | I moved the old one out of the way, and we will see how it behaves when I log back in | 17:53 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: He is trying to limit what sftp can do or something... I'm not really sure. | 17:54 |
| Mamarok | well, I have the impression he is trying to configure a file server, but doesn't have a clue | 17:54 |
| yofel | setting up FTPS would probably be easier... | 17:54 |
| yofel | or just limiting the user permissions | 17:54 |
| lordievader | Ask/suggest, I'd say. | 17:55 |
| Mamarok | how about asking him? | 17:55 |
| Mamarok | lordievader: but what he does there is material for #ubuntu-server | 18:02 |
| Mamarok | as it has nothing t do with KDE | 18:02 |
| lordievader | Mamarok: I believe I already told him once to go to #ubuntu-server... | 18:03 |
| Mamarok | yes you did, and maybe it would be good to remind him that channel again | 18:03 |
| kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1155687] KDE session didn't start after upgrading from Quantal to Raring Beta 1. Fixed after instal... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1155687 (by avlas) | 23:19 |
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