[07:59] darkxst, Hi, are you here? [07:59] Blinkiz, hi [07:59] darkxst, You helped me yesterday with problem that gnome/gdm did not start [07:59] darkxst, I solved the problem which is a bug [07:59] Blinkiz, oh cool, details? [08:01] darkxst, Under the installation, I choose that I live in Sweden and use Swedish keyboard. That writes this into /etc/default/locale: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5685442/ [08:01] darkxst, But that will prevent datetime.js extention to start in gnome-shell [08:02] are the locale's written incorrect? [08:02] darkxst, I have not pinpointed the exact problem but I installed "apt-get install language-pack-sv" and then changed all "sv_SE" to "sv_SE.UTF-8" and then gnome-shell/GDM started to work [08:03] Login into unity or KDE is not effected by the default locale file [08:03] Blinkiz, oh right, can you file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell' [08:03] only gdm/gnome-shell that fails [08:04] add all those details, and then we can follow it up with upstream [08:04] and good detective work! [08:04] darkxst, ok, can you give me a url pointed where I should submit this bug? [08:04] Blinkiz, just type that command in a terminal ;) [08:04] darkxst, aha, okay :) [08:05] 'ubuntu-bug gnome-shell' [08:05] darkxst, Should I do this when it is not working or does it not matter? [08:05] Blinkiz, in this case it does not matter [08:06] but that does collect logs and other information off your system, so is the recommended way of filing a bug! [08:06] ok [08:08] Blinkiz, however if you can get a stacktrace of the datetime.JS failure that would be helpful [08:08] darkxst, Sure, I can do that. How? :) [08:08] I guess it is not simply running strace.. [08:09] well normally they end up in the session.log [08:09] ~/.cache/gdm/session.log [08:09] but I don't recall seeing anything last time [08:09] mm [08:10] but perhaps try change the locale file from within g-s and then just restart it from the terminal with 'gnome-shell --replace' [08:10] and look for any errors there [08:11] darkxst, Many many more people will have this problem. It seems like when it is not UTF-8, GDM will fail. [08:11] darkxst, Am guessing simply "sv_SE" means ISO-8859-1 [08:16] Blinkiz, I have had 5-6 people complain of possibly the same issue [08:16] I suspect the intel thing was just a co-incidence [08:17] file the bug and I will follow up with relevant people, not many people around now, since its the weekend [08:24] Blinkiz, oh and CC me on the ubuntu bug once you have filed it [08:25] darkxst, okay [08:25] darkxst, Am trying to figure out what to write. hehe :) [08:26] hmm, just what you told me here, is enough [08:28] darkxst, Should I change anything in the description so it will be easier to find/troubleshoot? [08:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1165681 [08:28] Launchpad bug 1165681 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "GDM/gnome-shell fails to start" [Undecided,New] [08:29] Blinkiz, that is fine [08:29] darkxst, I change a few things to make it cleaner.. w8 [08:31] semente_, are you using non-english locale? [08:32] if so, see the above bug report [08:36] darkxst, Is it possible to create subjects in bug reports so it becomes easier to read? Some kind of bbcode or something? [08:36] darkxst, Am after bold text [08:39] no don't think so [08:39] ok [08:46] darkxst, I found this, same as my bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/907103 [08:46] Launchpad bug 907103 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell unicode problem" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:56] yes might be, will have a look later, dinner time now [14:25] darkxst: hi [14:26] darkxst: I don't remember what I was using... I usually use LANG as english and the remaining locales as pt_BR. I'm on debian now, going to install again ubuntu beta [14:26] so I enable gdm debug [16:48] Hi. jbicha should the people who will use unity in 13.04 activate the gnome 3 ppa? Thanks [16:51] bd__: maybe? we try not to break things for Unity users but sometimes there are regressions like bug 1159430 [16:51] bug 1159430 in Ubuntu GNOME "Nautilus 3.7.92 breaks desktop background on Unity" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1159430 [16:52] jbicha: So the nautilus 3.8.0 currently in the PPA breaks unity's background too? [16:54] and what are the most signifficant differences from nautilus 3.6 to nautilus 3.8? [16:56] bd__: yes, https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/tree/NEWS?h=gnome-3-8 [16:59] does anyone else have problem with nautilus consuming 100% CPU when opened? [17:02] this problem makes my nautilus unusable [17:02] thanks jbicha . Do you know why is not ubuntu integrating gnome 3.8 components like nautilus by default? [17:04] bd__: GNOME development is moving very quickly and there just isn't enough time for the Ubuntu & Canonical developers to integrate the latest GNOME without a high risk of regressions so Ubuntu 13.04 was built on GNOME 3.6 [17:06] jbicha: I see. It is better to go with the stable then. My nautilus 3.8 has just crashed some moments ago with an Ubuntu internal error. Still I suppose you will be able to iron out many bugs by release :) [17:38] hello [17:58] jadams: I think is better to ask the question and wait to see if anyone can answer :) [18:18] jjmarin_: so I kind of waffled - I can get by with eclipse crashing because of libsoup right now, and I've already put in my $0.02 on launchpad bug tracker in the gnome3 ppa [18:18] so I figured I might just not waste anyone's time :) [22:36] Has anyone tried the 13.04 beta 2 build yet? [23:58] hi, anyone here know how nautilus' scripts submenu will show up on one 12.04 box and not show up on another 12.04 box? yes, same environment, scripts in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/, 755, doing its thing, too, on one box