[17:11] <jsgarvin> Hi Fudge  thanks for the response. sorry I didn't get back to you earlier, I've been out on vacation.   I'm not sure what you mean by "how are you trying to make orca read".    I've got orca running, and it reads it's own preferences dialog automatically as soon as that window has the focus.  However, when I give Firefox the focus (either with the keyboard or the mouse), absolutely nothing happens.  Is there something el