thumperhe says that without secure-boot, windows won't boot00:00
thumperRAOF: only when trying to install I think00:00
* thumper recalls conversation00:00
thumperthe live DVD works if no secure boot and bios in legacy mode00:00
thumperbut he can't use or see win 8 in that mode00:00
RAOFBut no Windows in that mode.00:00
thumperand the docs on UEFI say that both OSes need to be in the same mode00:01
thumperso he was trying to install ubuntu with secure-boot00:01
thumperand I think this is what is screwing him over00:01
popeythumper: basically, yes, I've never had success with ATI (others have) so i avoid them always.00:01
thumpergah, no you tell me00:02
thumperI have ubuntu running on another laptop at home with an ati card00:02
thumperbut it is mostly running win 7 for the girls00:02
popeyalso this whole secure boot stuff is new uncharted territory for me ⍨00:02
thumperI used it for some upgrade testing at one stage00:02
thumperRAOF: If you want to chat with him on irc, I could poke him and get him online00:06
thumperRAOF: saves going through a third person00:06
RAOFI have no problem with ATI cards. I also have no familiarity with secure boot :/00:07
thumperwho knows about secure boot?00:08
popeymjg59 ☺00:09
RAOFColin (of course)00:10
thumperhmm... neither of them are around right now... (I guess)00:12
* thumper fires up an email off to them00:13
robert_ancellthumper, in that lightdm log you attached, you couldn't see a login screen at all? It shows you doing a lot of switching users and failing to log int03:09
robert_ancellthumper, also are you aware you have an 'oem' user that tries and fails to autologin?03:09
thumperrobert_ancell: no login screen at all, but an obviously active X as there is a mouse cursor, the mouse cursor persists into tty1 as well03:17
thumperrobert_ancell: no didn't know about the oem user03:17
thumperrobert_ancell: blank screen apart from the cursor03:17
robert_ancellthumper, oh, sounds like an X bug then..03:17
dufluthumper: There was a mir bug that prevented lightdm from starting at all. It got fixed in the PPA over the weekend... if you can get the update03:19
thumperduflu: would that show the same symptoms?03:19
dufluthumper: Yeah no login screen03:19
thumperduflu: hmm... I'm prepared to wait... been screwed over too many times with ppas03:20
dufluThough I have seen similar happen during the raring cycle even without any PPAs03:20
thumperespecially beta ones03:20
dufluthumper: Yeah I've seen the login screen go AWOL a few times since about Jan. That's plain old raring03:20
robert_ancellduflu, he's not using Mir03:46
duflurobert_ancell: Yeah I've seen it happen with plain old raring too :P03:46
duflurobert_ancell: In fact with gpm installed, you can end up with just a VT console and two mouse pointers (one gpm and one graphical)03:47
pittiGood morning06:08
didrockssalut pitti, ça va?06:08
pittididrocks: je vais très bien, merci!06:08
pittile week-end était encore froid, alors nous avons vu des films et joué au badminton06:09
pitti"Les Misérables" et "Sightseers"06:10
didrocksquelle version des Misérables?06:11
didrocksil y en a eu plein :)06:11
pittile nouveau, de 201206:11
didrocksah, je ne  savais même pas qu'il y avait une nouvelle version06:12
didrocksc'était bien?06:13
pittioui, mais un peu longue06:13
pittila musique était super06:14
pittije n'ai lu le livre jamais06:14
didrocksle livre est très long :)06:16
pittididrocks: où je dois mettre le mot "jamais" ?06:38
pitti"je jamais n'ai lu...", "je ne jamais ai lu...", "je n'ai jamais lu"06:38
jibelgood morning06:45
didrocksje n'ai jamais lu le livre06:55
didrocks(désolé, j'avais pas vu ton ping)06:55
didrockssalut jibel!06:55
pittididrocks: merci !06:56
pittididrocks: "je n'ai pas jamais lu"? (forgot the "pas")06:56
* pitti crawling back out of a kernel oops hole06:57
didrockspitti: no "pas", "jamais" replace it ;)06:57
pittididrocks: ah, merci06:57
didrocksde rien :)06:57
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popeydidrocks: I get compiz (core) - Debug: dlopen failed: /usr/lib/libunity-core-6.0.so.5: undefined symbol: unity_protocol_music_preview_pause_uri08:04
popeyon my laptop, so can't use unity right now08:04
popeysam suggested it's an ABI break08:04
didrockspopey: is this file installed for you?08:04
Laneygooood morning!08:04
didrockspopey: any ppa? I'm on the latest distro version and I don't have any issue08:05
didrockshey Laney08:05
popeyalan@deep-thought:~$ ls -l libunity-core-6.0.so.5.0.008:05
didrocksLaney: good holidays?08:05
popeybah, sorry08:05
Laneydidrocks: very nice thank you, lots of snow and walking and beer :-)08:05
didrocks                 U unity_protocol_music_preview_pause_uri08:06
* Laney tries to find out what he missed while away08:06
didrockspopey: check that you have latest libunity and unity, and that they both comes from distro08:06
didrocksLaney: enjoy catching up! :)08:06
popey  Installed: 7.0.0daily13.04.05.2-0ubuntu108:06
popey  Installed: 7.0.0daily13.04.05.2-0ubuntu108:07
popeythats unity and libunity08:07
popeyboth from distro08:07
popeyI've seen others report this over the weekend too08:07
didrocksnot possible08:07
didrocks7.0.0daily13.04.05.2-0ubuntu1 doesn't exist for libunity08:07
popeylibunity-core-6.0-5: sorry08:07
seb128hey desktopers08:07
popeyN: Unable to locate package libunity08:07
didrockspopey: libunity908:07
didrockssalut seb12808:07
popey  Installed: 6.91.9daily13.04.05ubuntu.unity.experimental.certified-0ubuntu108:08
popeymorning seb12808:08
popey(the gah not aimed at you seb) :D08:08
Laneywee, maliit accepted into debian08:08
* popey downgrades08:08
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LaneyQuintasan: ^^^^ :D08:12
Laneyit's an old version because I didn't want to keep uploading when it was already in NEW, but there you go08:12
popeydidrocks: downgraded libunity9 but compiz is still crashing with the same error message08:16
didrockspopey: check your components, as it's reproduceable, I would have expect seeing that missing symbol in all install08:17
didrockspopey: which didn't occur in the french forum nor here in my normal or guest session08:17
didrockspopey: look at the indicators and so on08:17
seb128popey, dpkg -l | grep experimental.certified08:21
popeyyeah, just did that and found a couple more, thanks08:21
popeyunity-scopes-runner, libunity-protocol-private0...08:21
didrockspopey: did you run ppa-purge to remove the 100scopes ppa?08:21
popeyyes, after unity stopped working08:22
popey\o/ unity desktop08:22
popeyphew. felt icky using gnome shell for a couple of days ㋛08:23
popeythanks guys08:23
xnoxWow, I just got 6 months or so backlog of tweets =)08:34
xnoxyet gwibber is not in my messaging menu, just the bubbled.08:35
* xnox is confused08:35
xnoxOh, it's a scope08:35
popeyhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/1166052  possibly?08:35
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1166052 in friends-app "notifies on startup of every tweet ever directed at you" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:35
popeyI got it too with facebook notifications08:35
BigWhalepopey, that's good, so you delete those damn DM's. :>08:46
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chrisccoulsonoh, did pitti feed the "sudo is superior everything in the world even though i don't understand it" troll? ;)10:57
pittichrisccoulson: sorry..11:00
chrisccoulsonhow are you pitti?11:00
seb128hey chrisccoulson pitti11:01
pittichrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks!11:01
pittibonjour seb12811:01
chrisccoulsonhey seb128, did you have a good weekend?11:01
pitti"hungry" :) just grabbed some lunch, bbl11:01
seb128chrisccoulson, quite good, it was even sunny yesterday ;-)11:01
seb128back to 5°C and clouds today though :-(11:01
seb128chrisccoulson, you?11:01
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i actually left our house on saturday without wearing a jacket11:01
chrisccoulsonbut it's going to get colder here again this week11:01
chrisccoulsonother than that, my weekend was ok. although, jo is back at work now, and she worked over the weekend11:02
Laneyi got carried away on my bike thanks to the sun and accidently rode 40 miles11:03
Laneyrealised too late that i have to ride all the way back too ...11:03
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chrisccoulsonthat's crazy!11:03
Laneywas swearing at every tiny hill by the end11:03
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dpmhey desktop folk, could anyone give me a hand or some tips on how to fix my display? This morning I rebooted my raring laptop (with nvidia), and now unity won't start. If I run it from the command line it tells me "extension 'GLX' missing on display '0:0'"11:39
seb128dpm, hey, what did you change/install/upgrade before getting the issue11:43
dpmseb128, unfortunately, I can't remember last time I did a dist-upgrade, so I guess it's my fault :/ In any case, the machine was up to date up until this morning11:44
seb128dpm, can you copy your /var/log/dpkg.log somewhere?11:44
seb128dpm, when did you last reboot before that?11:45
dpmseb128, yeah, let me try. I haven't rebooted in a few days, I generally suspend. But after the latest updates a few things were not working so I decided to reboot his morning11:45
seb128dpm, can you copy your Xorg.0.log somewhere as well?11:46
dpmseb128, here's the /var/log/dpkg.log/ -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5689161/ (I've just replaced nvidia-experimental-* by nvidia-current, I've been running experimental without trouble for months, but just in case). Xorg log coming in a minute11:48
dpmseb128, Xorg.0.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5689171/11:49
dpmalso not sure if it's related, but for some reason the laptop won't reboot, it just drops to a root prompt11:51
seb128dpm, nvidia fails to load11:51
seb128[    15.154] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your11:52
seb128[    15.154] (EE) NVIDIA:     system's kernel log for additional error messages.11:52
dpmtrying to reboot with nvidia-current now11:52
Laneylet's see /var/log/apt/term.log too11:52
Laneyalso try booting on an older kernel11:53
dpmyeah, I had thought of that, but I didn't have any older one11:53
dpmman, this is getting worse. Rebooted and now /boot fails to mount :/11:54
dpmit seems I could boot up nevertheless11:55
dpmbut without network now11:55
QuintasanLaney: \o/12:03
dpmany ideas anyone about "mountall: could not mount filesystem: /boot"?12:07
Sweetsharkbdrung, seb128: see http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/libreoffice4/libreoffice_4.0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc -- also pushed to alioth12:08
Sweetsharkfwiw, still building locally12:08
seb128dpm, try asking on #ubuntu-devel rather maybe12:11
dpmok, thanks seb12812:12
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bdrungSweetshark: we need this commit: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-openoffice/libreoffice.git;a=commitdiff;h=20bd07fe41abdfa5a3ec407fb3c95699c54d284312:23
Sweetsharkbdrung: eek indeed.12:26
Sweetsharkbdrung: and not only that ...12:27
bdrungwhat else?12:27
BigWhaleGreetings everyone.12:27
cyphermoxgood morning!12:28
Sweetsharkbdrung: ah, excuse me, I saw only the control change. I thought the rules change was missing, but it isnt.12:28
pittihey cyphermox, good morning12:36
cyphermoxhey pitti12:36
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Sweetsharkbdrung: updated12:49
bdrungSweetshark: we have to revert the "ttf-indic-fonts -> fonts-indic" change. fonts-indic is not available yet12:55
didrocksdpm: hey! welcome back :)12:57
dpmhey didrocks, thanks! :-)12:57
dpma pity that I came back to a broken laptop :/12:57
didrocksyep, I read that :/12:57
didrocksdpm: not sure if Mirv told you about it already, but the developer guide is quite outdated with latest sdk: bug #115824612:57
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1158246 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Tutorial code needs to be updated to use the latest UITK version" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115824612:57
didrocksdpm: not sure if it's you or mhall119 who will fix it (I see that Michael assigned it to himself)12:58
dpmdidrocks, hm, I asked mhall119 to update it while I was away12:58
dpmmhall119, could you look into it?12:58
didrocksthanks ;)12:58
didrocksjasoncwarner_: FYI ^12:58
dpmdidrocks, thanks for the heads up. We should include the tutorial code in the SDK itself, so that it passes tests too12:59
didrocksdpm: that's what I proposed a while ago ;)12:59
Sweetsharkbdrung: please tell me when you are ready with the review, so I can batch apply the remaining changes.12:59
pitticyphermox: https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/network-manager/more-tests/+merge/157644 :)13:01
pitticyphermox: note that I get "testDnsmasqRunning (__main__.TestDnsmasq) ... FAIL", but I didn't touch taht13:01
bdrungSweetshark: okay. i am not finished. libreoffice-common doesn't suggest libreoffice-style-human any more. was that intentional?13:03
bdrungSweetshark: a question: libreoffice-emailmerge moved into libreoffice-common?13:07
cyphermoxpitti: yeah, I meant to disable, it, it's borken13:08
pitticyphermox: I get the same error when running the raring package's tests, so I'm fairly sure it's not due to the new tests13:09
cyphermoxpitti: no, I know13:09
cyphermoxthere's an issue with how the devices are configured in the VM, NM never manages them I think13:09
pitticyphermox: I'll add some more tests in the future, and also some for NM itself, btw; but we either need a fixed mac80211_hwsim module (I sent the fix to the upstream MLs this morning), or a workaround in NM13:09
bdrungSweetshark: the change "ttf-devanagari-fonts -> fonts-deva" needs to be reverted, too13:10
pitticyphermox: yeah, those are cloud images, I suppose they use /e/n/interfaces for eth013:10
pitticyphermox: anyway, comments appreciated (in the MP)13:10
pitticyphermox: I'll head out for some running, back in ~ 45 min13:11
cyphermoxpitti: but for /e/n/i I explicitly run ifblacklist, but it didn't seem to wokr13:11
bdrungSweetshark: screw my libreoffice-emailmerge question.13:14
bdrungSweetshark: i am done with reviewing the debian/ diff13:34
dobeydpm: hey, can you moderate my mail to ubuntu-translators through?13:36
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seb128pitti, hum, that ubuntu-system-services is_package_system_locked() is annoying13:48
seb128pitti, update-notifier runs as a normal user and that doesn't have the read access to the apt/dpkg lock files to get the info13:49
dpmdobey, sure, give me 5 mins13:58
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pittiseb128: oh, isn't it enough to check for their mere presence?14:10
seb128pitti, I don't think so, /var/cache/apt/archives/lock or /var/lib/apt/lists/lock are present and quite old on my install14:11
seb128pitti, seems like the files stay, the write locks come and go14:11
seb128pitti, we should add it to kitchensink^Wsystemd :p14:12
pittiI guess we might need a little suid root helper in apt then14:13
pittisuid root, or pkexec14:14
pitti(the latter might be easier)14:14
seb128pitti, can't we just add it to an existing service? I was half joking with systemd14:15
pittisystemd isn't about package management14:16
pittiI think it would fit in aptd as a D-BUS interface14:16
pittior into the apt package as a pkexec/suid helper14:16
seb128well, you pointed that aptd is heavy to start14:16
seb128and that we don't want to do that only to read a lock14:16
pittiyes, hence my proposal of a pkexec helper14:16
pittiI actually wonder whether we can just call "pidof apt-get || pidof dpkg"14:17
* seb128 summons mvo14:17
seb128pitti, let's check with mvo when he's around14:18
pittiapt-get doesn't work, as python-apt just spawns /usr/lib/apt/methods/http directly14:18
pittibut even if we keep the "check locks" approach, that shouldn't be much more than pkexec'ing a series of fuser <lockfile> calls14:19
pitti(or whatever system-service currently does to check the locks)14:19
seb128pitti, system-services call fcntl() basically14:29
seb128pitti, so you would go the "write a small piece of code doing the check, ship it as a standalone binary, call it through pkexec"?14:30
seb128pitti, it's the pkexec bit that annoys me most there, that's not really an user problem, we shouldn't have something that might trigger an user prompt14:30
pittiseb128: that won't14:32
seb128pitti, assuming that the right permissions are shipped with it and that the user is in the right group?14:33
pittiseb128: no, we can write a .policy to allow running that helper as a local user14:34
pittiseb128: (sorry, OTP)14:34
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seb128pitti, right, it just feels like the wrong hammer, but maybe it's not ;-)14:35
pittiseb128: what feels wrong to you? it's not much different than calling a dbus method that is checked through polkit14:42
seb128pitti, it feels "heavier" than it should, it should be a simple call, not running a command through extra acl layers14:44
seb128pitti, but well, that's just a "feel", no practical issue14:44
seb128pitti, do you think we should ship the helper with update-notifier or somewhere else?14:45
seb128pitti, I will write the small piece of code to check the lock, then we can decide where to put it14:46
* seb128 is away for ~45min, bbiab14:48
pittihm, Telekom technician trying to debug my landline, as clueless as I14:48
pittiseb128: it's much less heavy than d-bus activating a python service :)14:49
pittiseb128: as for the code, a three-line shell script should be enough (fuser shows whether a program has that lock file open)14:49
bdrungSweetshark: you can reduce the diff to Debian by http://paste.debian.net/248256/ and "libreoffice-emailmerge (<< 1:4.0.2~rc2) -> libreoffice-emailmerge (<< 1:4.0.2~rc1)"14:57
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seb128pitti, @fuser: k, I was just trying to spare spawning a shell, but that's not likely to make a noticable difference ... let's go for the easy way15:50
seb128pitti, do you want to have a go at it or should I look at that tomorrow and ping you for review?15:51
pittire (sorry, router/network trouble)15:53
pittiseb128: sorry, need to run for today; can we talk tomorrow?15:54
pittibut at least my landline is fixed now15:54
seb128pitti, sure, have fun!15:55
seb128pitti, see you tomorrow15:55
Laneyjhodapp: Just uploaded the rest of 1.0.6 - should hopefully be accepted and available in a few hours16:36
jhodappLaney, nice! that would be for quantal or just for raring?16:36
Laneyjust raring16:36
jhodappLaney, is that compiled for ARM as well?16:36
Laneyyes, all arches16:36
Laneyit's a distro package16:37
jhodappLaney, you rock! thank you very much16:37
Laneyno worries16:37
didrockskenvandine: robru: mterry: cyphermox: hey, are we on the right track for having all touch apps into the ppa for the end of next week? I think we'll need to target that date to have an iso by the end of the month based on the ppa16:37
cyphermoxdidrocks: seems feasible yeah16:38
didrockscyphermox: nice progress on hud and libhud-qt! :-)16:38
didrockscyphermox: let's hope we can have hud dekstopey-mobiley tomorrow! ;)16:38
cyphermoxprogress is discussable.16:38
cyphermoxthat would be rockin'16:38
didrockscyphermox: hud and libhud-qt will unblock a lot of other components ;)16:39
seb128jbicha, hey16:47
jbichaseb128: hi16:48
seb128jbicha, I overwrote your recent g-c-c commit with a --overwrite in the vcs for info16:48
seb128jbicha, please don't commit stuff that are not ready to go into distro16:48
seb128jbicha, I spent 15 min trying to roll that out, put what I needed to upload, tag and put your stuff back on top ... and finished by screwing the vcs16:48
jbichaseb128: it *is* ready to go into the distro, it's just not as useful without bug 1162478 being handled first16:48
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1162478 in libnss-myhostname (Ubuntu) "[FFe] [MIR] libnss-myhostname" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116247816:48
seb128jbicha, I just dropped your commit and overwrote with what I uploaded16:48
seb128jbicha, hum, I took your "Without /etc/hosts being handled correctly, the hostnamed integration is only half-working which is why I didn't upload" on bug #1162475 as "we should only put that in if the FFe is approved"16:50
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1162475 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Changing hostname doesn't update /etc/hosts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116247516:50
seb128jbicha, better to have a feature missing than have it broken (which leads to frustrated users)16:50
jbicharight, it's only half the fix but it's easier to tell people to install one package than to also install a file in a hidden root directory16:50
jbichaI can update the changelog entry so it's more clear that it's an incomplete fix16:51
seb128well, does the half fix change the UI in a way that could make users believe it's working when it's not ?16:51
jbichano, the UI is just as broken as it has been for quite a while16:51
seb128jbicha, well, you wrote "which is why I didn't upload", which sort of implied you didn't want to upload16:52
seb128sorry about the misunderstanding16:52
jbichaseb128: oh I was misremembering, you're right, we don't want that upload now16:53
seb128your call16:53
seb128I guess you can add to the vcs with the line commented in the .install16:53
jbichait will allow people to change their hostname but it won't take care of /etc/hosts which is bad16:53
jbichayeah I should have dropped the change while we wait for the mir16:54
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mterrycyphermox, got some time today to do several tiny reviews?  (bootstrap stuff for daily-release and such)17:17
* didrocks waves good evening17:18
mterrydidrocks, byed17:18
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mterrykenvandine or robru: do either of you have some time to review some tiny branches for daily-landing stuff?  Will review in exchange :)17:27
* mterry goes afk for a bit17:29
kenvandinemterry, sure17:29
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cyphermoxmterry: yeah! shoot18:20
cyphermoxsorry, I was grabbing food, late lunch ;)18:20
mterrycyphermox, no worries, I bugged kenvandine to do it18:21
cyphermoxany others?18:26
mterrycyphermox, not right now18:30
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mterryDoes anyone here know much about egl and why our current Qt5 package explicitly disables it for non-arm arches?19:30
mterry(I thought it was a subset of GL)19:31
seb128mterry, because we use gl and not gles on other archs?19:31
mterryseb128, gles is a subset right?19:31
seb128well, dunno how qt is19:31
seb128but can you enable full gl and gles together?19:31
seb128or is that an one or the other?19:31
seb128usually it tends to be gl or gles19:32
seb128e.g full set or subset19:32
mterryseb128, yeah...  the rules file for qt5 does either "-opengl desktop" or "-opengl es2"19:32
mterryseb128, but then for non-arm it goes the extra step of saying -no-egl19:33
mterryWhich makes some symbols not appear in libraries and it seems to be making it tough to abstract whether egl is being used or not19:33
seb128hum, k, sorry I don't know about qt specifically19:33
seb128try asking Mirv maybe?19:33
mterryjhodapp, can I ask you some questions about qtubuntu?19:35
mterrySpecifically, it's egl support?19:35
jhodappmterry, sure, I'll answer what I can19:35
mterryjhodapp, so I believe the plan of record was to allow building qtubuntu on all arches.  But egl support is only built in Qt5 for arm.  There are egl-specific bits in qtubuntu.  Is that supposed to be abstracted away at qtubuntu level or the qt5 level?19:36
robruseb128, when you get a sec can you try friends-app again? I was getting similar errors for fb before, but it's working for me now... no code changes19:37
mterryjhodapp, (I'm only asking you because you were in the bzr log, if there's someone else better to bother, let me know)19:37
jhodappmterry, my understanding is that's supposed to be abstracted by the AAL layer (Ubuntu Platform API basically)19:37
jhodappmterry, and at a package level, the mesa gl, gles, etc packages provide this abstraction19:38
mterryjhodapp, so QUbuntuBaseContext and QUbuntuBaseScreen both have public API referencing egl structures19:39
mterryjhodapp, I guess they shouldn't?19:39
jhodappmterry, they should...probably the best person to ask would be tvoss19:40
mterryjhodapp, OK, thanks19:40
jhodappmterry, tvoss is architecting that19:40
mterryjhodapp, alright, he's eating dinner now I guess.  I'll email him.  Thanks+!19:41
seb128robru, will do (I'm on a quantal machine atm so a bit later)19:43
robruseb128, ok, no worries. still trying to figure out if it's a server issue or if there's something we're doing wrong19:44
seb128robru, btw about the meeting, I got your email, it's going to be 3:30pm utc tomorrow again but we will discuss the time at the end of the meeting19:44
seb128robru, the issue but shifting later is that it starts overlapping with europe eod/dinner time19:45
seb128robru, we might settle on 4pm though19:45
mterryjhodapp, seb128: ah, ok...  non-arm packages do have egl libraries/headers available.  So it does seem like qt5 should expose the symbols that qtubuntu needs.  Will look down that path for the nonce19:47
mterrynon-arm platforms I meant19:47
seb128mterry, seems a bit weird, but maybe they are doing something smart with it ;-)19:48
czajkowskievening folks20:58
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