[14:01] <barry> #startmeeting
[14:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Apr  8 14:01:15 2013 UTC.  The chair is barry. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:01] <barry> !dmb-ping
[14:01] <tumbleweed> hi
[14:01] <bdrung> o/
[14:02] <barry> i know stgraber and ScottK send apologies.  do we have quorum today?
[14:03] <Laney> ello
[14:03] <Laney> yeah, seems so
[14:03] <barry> excellent
[14:03] <barry> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda
[14:04] <barry> #topic Review of previous action items
[14:04] <barry> Micah to urgently send feedback on Bjorn's PPU application
[14:05] <barry> do we have any status on this? i think micahg is not here right now
[14:05] <Laney> he said he hasn't yet done it
[14:06] <Laney> i think we should give it to someone else ...
[14:06] <Laney> or otherwise deal with this application
[14:06] <tumbleweed> bdrung: whould you be able to write it?
[14:06] <barry> bdrung, i think you'd be the natural next in line for this, since you've been working with him so closely
[14:07] <tumbleweed> I assume that if someone can get it started, it'd be easy to get some input from micahg. much easier than waiting for him to have time to do it all
[14:07] <bdrung> hm, i'd rather want someone else write it.
[14:07] <bdrung> my view has change since i sponsor björn.
[14:07] <barry> bdrung: in which direction? ;)
[14:08] <Laney> another option of course would be to reconsider the application without a meeting
[14:08] <bdrung> barry: in a good direction.
[14:08] <Laney> I tend to want to defer to bdrung on this
[14:09]  * tumbleweed too
[14:09] <tumbleweed> if after working with him bdrung thinks he's ready, that'll be enough to get my vote
[14:09] <barry> bdrung: cool.  Laney i agree.  i would be willing to bring up a vote on the dmb list, and if there are no objections, i will first email him and dholbach to let them know we are doing it this way.
[14:10] <Laney> I'd like to hear some kind of summary on how the recent sponsorship has been
[14:10] <Laney> if bdrung is up for sending that - doesn't have to be long
[14:10] <bdrung> I can try to write a sponsoring summary.
[14:10] <barry> bdrung: that's great, thanks
[14:10] <tumbleweed> Laney: +1
[14:11] <barry> #action bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship
[14:11] <meetingology> ACTION: bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship
[14:11] <dholbach> great, good to hear things are moving in a good direction :)
[14:11] <barry> #action barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list
[14:11] <meetingology> ACTION: barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list
[14:11] <Laney> \o/
[14:11] <Laney> dholbach: sorry it blocked on the feedback for so long
[14:12] <barry> dholbach: me too.
[14:12] <barry> anything else on this topic?
[14:12] <Laney> seems like a decent direction to me
[14:12] <tumbleweed> I guess that depends on the contents of bdrung's summary, so not for now, from me
[14:12] <Laney> someone should let him know what's going on
[14:13] <tumbleweed> that is what the summary was about...
[14:13] <barry> Laney: will will do that
[14:13] <tumbleweed> err feedback
[14:13] <barry> *i will
[14:13] <barry> #topic Review any packageset descriptions that have been received (micahg)
[14:13] <barry>  
[14:14] <tumbleweed> no micahg today...
[14:14] <Laney> this whole initiative went away
[14:14] <barry> Laney: should i just remove this item from the agenda then?
[14:14] <Laney> probably for the best
[14:14] <barry> will do
[14:14] <Laney> assuming nobody wants to revive it
[14:14] <tumbleweed> I'm happy with doing it as-needed
[14:15] <Laney> pinging all of the packageset teams to get clear criteria for alterations
[14:15] <tumbleweed> "\you want an addition to a packageset, give us a description"
[14:15] <Laney> indeed
[14:15] <barry> which brings us to:
[14:15] <barry> #topic Package Sets
[14:15] <barry> we've had a request to add a few things to the zope and schooltool packagesets
[14:16] <tumbleweed> which reminds me. schooltool and zope don't have great descriptions. but probably good enough
[14:16] <tumbleweed> I'm +1 on that (as I said in the list) and happy to press the buttons
[14:16] <Laney> yeah, seems fine. I don't think we need to vote per se
[14:16] <barry> tumbleweed: no objections from me
[14:16] <barry> tumbleweed: jfdi :)
[14:16] <tumbleweed> will do
[14:16] <bdrung> no objections from me too
[14:17] <barry> #action tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request
[14:17] <meetingology> ACTION: tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request
[14:17] <barry> #topic ppu applications
[14:17] <barry> none for today
[14:17] <barry> #topic motu applications
[14:17] <barry> none for today
[14:18] <barry> #topic core dev applications
[14:18] <barry> none for today
[14:18] <barry> #topic any other business
[14:18] <barry> there was a doodle poll on possibly changing the early meeting's time.  have any of the dmb folks here not voted?
[14:19] <Laney> me
[14:19] <barry> Laney: please do, then we can lobby for results :)
[14:19] <Laney> seems like 13UTC wins though, which is fine by me
[14:20]  * Laney clicks zillions of tedious boxes
[14:20] <barry> micahg is the westmost of us, but only by an hour, so hopefully that will work for him.
[14:20] <barry> ;)
[14:21] <barry> does anybody have anything else they'd like to bring up today?
[14:21] <Laney> there
[14:21] <Laney> he agreed to that time and the two previous hours too
[14:21] <Laney> more fool him
[14:22] <tumbleweed> schooltool + zope done
[14:22] <Laney> so, the PPU discussion - what's left to do? Read over the log from the previous meeting and the email thread? Is there a proposal?
[14:22] <Laney> sorry for not having read it yet
[14:22] <tumbleweed> quickly read it now?
[14:22] <Laney> the IRC log was hench though :(
[14:22] <Laney> plus the most involved people aren't here
[14:22] <tumbleweed> the idea was to get a proposal on the list, then we could vote on it
[14:23] <Laney> ah yes
[14:23] <Laney> I probably have to digest this
[14:23] <tumbleweed> but yes, I'd prefer if everyone who had commented on the proposal was here
[14:23] <tumbleweed> or at least someone :P
[14:23] <barry> yeah ;)
[14:23] <Laney> not sure why that thread is private
[14:23] <barry> i'll put it on the agenda for next time
[14:24] <Laney> anyway, micahg: thanks for sending it and I'll read/digest/comment soon
[14:24] <bdrung> I probably didn't comment the proposal, because I agree with it
[14:24] <tumbleweed> yeah, same
[14:24] <barry> same
[14:24] <Laney> i wrote it on my todo list and everything
[14:25] <barry> anything else, or are we done for today?
[14:26]  * tumbleweed votes for done
[14:26] <barry> bdrung: you're up in 2 weeks
[14:26] <barry> #endmeeting
[14:26] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Apr  8 14:26:38 2013 UTC.
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[14:26] <barry> thanks everyone
[14:28] <tumbleweed> yay for a quick meeting
[14:29] <tumbleweed> we should have more of those (therefore discourage applicants, right? :P )
[14:33] <barry> tumbleweed: only every 7th meeting :)
[14:33] <tumbleweed> :)
[16:30] <mdeslaur> \o
[16:31] <tyhicks> hello
[16:31] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:31] <sarnold> hello
[16:31] <jjohansen> \o
[16:31] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[16:31] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Apr  8 16:31:21 2013 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:31] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[16:31] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[16:31] <jdstrand> People may have noticed this before, but we have a new meeting time: 16:30 UTC
[16:32] <jdstrand> Thanks to Angel Abad (angelabad) who provided a debdiff for quantal for almanah (LP: #1155000), and Christian Kuersteiner (ckuerste) who provided a debdiff for precise for tomcat7 (LP: #1115053). Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job!
[16:32] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[16:32] <jdstrand> I'll go first
[16:32] <jdstrand> I'm on triage this week
[16:33] <jdstrand> april planning should all be done with everyone working on it (thanks to mdeslaur and jjohansen for helping me with the planning)
[16:33] <jdstrand> I was also able to finish the 13.10 planning for the most part
[16:34] <jdstrand> but there still is a requirement that needs to be nailed down that I am working on. if it goes well, it shouldn't require significant effort for 13.10
[16:35] <jdstrand> I worked on refining the unity apparmor abstractions a bit, and plan to push those to the ppa at some point
[16:35] <jdstrand> I've got a couple of audits to finish up on
[16:36] <jdstrand> I think performance reviews are all done for now, but I might have something else to do there
[16:36] <jdstrand> and, hopefully I'll have time to pick up an update
[16:36] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: you're up
[16:37] <mdeslaur> I'm currently working on the nvidia driver updates
[16:37] <mdeslaur> and am wrestling with jockey at the moment which for some reason doesn't like the new version
[16:37] <mdeslaur> I have haproxy updates to test also
[16:37] <mdeslaur> so I'll probably be publishing those two this week
[16:37] <mdeslaur> and will go down the list, time permitting
[16:37] <mdeslaur> that's it from me
[16:37] <mdeslaur> oh, and am on community
[16:38] <mdeslaur> sbeattie: you're up
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'm once again working on display manager confinement
[16:38] <sbeattie> I'm focusing on writing some example applications to help drive where we need to mediate in the display manager.
[16:39] <mdeslaur> awesomesauce
[16:39] <sbeattie> I sadly have one last objective task to finish up, due to brain-damage on my part last week.
[16:39] <sbeattie> and that's pretty much it for me.
[16:39] <sbeattie> tyhicks: you're up
[16:39] <jdstrand> sbeattie: I gave you a link last week about touch apps that use the SDK. you may be able to use/steal one of those (I didn't look at them at all though, so fyi only)
[16:40] <sbeattie> yeah, I'll look at those
[16:40] <tyhicks> I'm working on work items from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-1304-appisolation-dbus
[16:40] <tyhicks> Currently finishing up the "dbus - parser tests"
[16:40] <tyhicks> I started on it last week and still have some more to do
[16:40] <tyhicks> After that, I'll likely start on one of the other test related work items
[16:41] <tyhicks> In spare time, I'm trying to get an eCryptfs fix for improved AES-NI performance ready for the 3.10 merge window
[16:41] <tyhicks> That's it for me
[16:41] <tyhicks> jjohansen: you're up
[16:42] <jjohansen> I am working on the apparmor labeling work again this week.
[16:42] <jjohansen> I will be pushing an updated kernel that merges the current labeling and dbus dev branches
[16:43] <tyhicks> jjohansen: do you think that the socket labelling stuff will make it into that kernel too?
[16:43] <jjohansen> and there will be some dbus testing under the new labeled sockets
[16:43] <jjohansen> tyhicks: yes
[16:43] <tyhicks> good to hear :)
[16:44] <jjohansen> sarnold: your up
[16:45] <sarnold> I'm finishing up some vbulletin plugin reviews today; I've got another package for MIR audit to do
[16:46] <sarnold> my first charm was accepted into the charm store :) I haven't yet looked to see exactly how someone else would use it, but I'm hoping to address one of the raised issues (admin email address) -- they've got a 30-day-quiet --> implies api is somewhat 'fixed' sort of rule, and I'd like to avoid tripping that :)
[16:47] <sarnold> perhaps depending upon priorities I'll get to that this week, perhaps not
[16:47] <mdeslaur> sarnold: oh, cool, congrats!
[16:47] <sarnold> thanks mdeslaur :)
[16:47] <sarnold> chrisccoulson: you're up
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> i've been working on mozilla updates this week. thanks to jdstrand for walking me through that process :)
[16:48] <jdstrand> sarnold: congrats on the charm acceptance! :)
[16:48] <chrisccoulson> there's currently some process issues wrt webapps
[16:49] <jdstrand> sarnold: was that the unattended upgrades one?
[16:49] <chrisccoulson> i'm also tracking a couple of crashes from the firefox update
[16:49] <sarnold> jdstrand: thanks, yes, unattended-upgrades :)
[16:49] <jdstrand> sarnold: nice
[16:50] <jdstrand> chrisccoulson: you're welcome-- you did a great job :)
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> unfortunately, not much progress with chromium automated testing this last week, but i'll hopefully be able to get back on that this week
[16:50] <sarnold> chrisccoulson: congrats on the first one down :)
[16:50] <chrisccoulson> there's still issues with chromium crashing on arm, which i've not been able to reproduce on my system
[16:51] <chrisccoulson> i need to take a look at that this week to unblock updates for U4A
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> i guess we need to start to figure out our webkit story this week, which is somewhat complicated by last weeks announcement
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> i was going to suggest that one way of solving our 2-supported-js-engines-in-main issue would be to enable v8 in qtwebkit
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> but it seems that following last weeks announcement, apple are purging the v8 bindings
[16:54] <jdstrand> fun
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> so that idea is a non-starter really
[16:54] <chrisccoulson> i think that's it from me
[16:55] <jdstrand> so I think it's back to me
[16:55] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[16:55] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.
[16:55] <jdstrand> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.
[16:55] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/network-manager-openvpn.html
[16:55] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mpack.html
[16:55] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gromacs.html
[16:55] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ngircd.html
[16:55] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/revelation.html
[16:55] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[16:55] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[16:57] <jdstrand> mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks!
[16:58] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[16:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Apr  8 16:58:01 2013 UTC.
[16:58] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-08-16.31.moin.txt
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[16:58] <sarnold> thanks jdstrand :)
[16:58] <jjohansen> thanks jdstrand
[16:58] <mdeslaur> thanks jdstrand!
[16:58] <tyhicks> thanks!
[16:58] <sbeattie> jdstrand: thanks
[16:58] <UbuPhillup> thanks
[16:58] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: oh, I forgot to thank you for preparing the meeting wiki pages
[16:58] <jdstrand> mdeslaur: so, thank you :)
[16:58] <mdeslaur> haha
[16:58] <mdeslaur> you're welcome :P