=== mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === Guest80225 is now known as panda|x201 === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === doko_ is now known as doko === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === security is now known as fire === highvolt1ge is now known as highvoltage [14:01] #startmeeting [14:01] Meeting started Mon Apr 8 14:01:15 2013 UTC. The chair is barry. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:01] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [14:01] !dmb-ping [14:01] bdrung, ScottK, Laney, micahg, barry, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping [14:01] hi [14:01] o/ [14:02] i know stgraber and ScottK send apologies. do we have quorum today? [14:03] ello [14:03] yeah, seems so [14:03] excellent [14:03] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda [14:04] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review of previous action items [14:04] Micah to urgently send feedback on Bjorn's PPU application [14:05] do we have any status on this? i think micahg is not here right now [14:05] he said he hasn't yet done it [14:06] i think we should give it to someone else ... [14:06] or otherwise deal with this application [14:06] bdrung: whould you be able to write it? [14:06] bdrung, i think you'd be the natural next in line for this, since you've been working with him so closely [14:07] I assume that if someone can get it started, it'd be easy to get some input from micahg. much easier than waiting for him to have time to do it all [14:07] hm, i'd rather want someone else write it. [14:07] my view has change since i sponsor björn. [14:07] bdrung: in which direction? ;) [14:08] another option of course would be to reconsider the application without a meeting [14:08] barry: in a good direction. [14:08] I tend to want to defer to bdrung on this [14:09] * tumbleweed too [14:09] if after working with him bdrung thinks he's ready, that'll be enough to get my vote [14:09] bdrung: cool. Laney i agree. i would be willing to bring up a vote on the dmb list, and if there are no objections, i will first email him and dholbach to let them know we are doing it this way. [14:10] I'd like to hear some kind of summary on how the recent sponsorship has been [14:10] if bdrung is up for sending that - doesn't have to be long [14:10] I can try to write a sponsoring summary. [14:10] bdrung: that's great, thanks [14:10] Laney: +1 [14:11] #action bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship [14:11] ACTION: bdrung to write up a short summary of sweetshark's recent sponsorship [14:11] great, good to hear things are moving in a good direction :) [14:11] #action barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list [14:11] ACTION: barry to conduct sweetshark ppu vote on ubuntu-dmb list [14:11] \o/ [14:11] dholbach: sorry it blocked on the feedback for so long [14:12] dholbach: me too. [14:12] anything else on this topic? [14:12] seems like a decent direction to me [14:12] I guess that depends on the contents of bdrung's summary, so not for now, from me [14:12] someone should let him know what's going on [14:13] that is what the summary was about... [14:13] Laney: will will do that [14:13] err feedback [14:13] *i will [14:13] #topic Review any packageset descriptions that have been received (micahg) === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Review any packageset descriptions that have been received (micahg) [14:13] [14:14] no micahg today... [14:14] this whole initiative went away [14:14] Laney: should i just remove this item from the agenda then? [14:14] probably for the best [14:14] will do [14:14] assuming nobody wants to revive it [14:14] I'm happy with doing it as-needed [14:15] pinging all of the packageset teams to get clear criteria for alterations [14:15] "\you want an addition to a packageset, give us a description" [14:15] indeed [14:15] which brings us to: [14:15] #topic Package Sets === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Package Sets [14:15] we've had a request to add a few things to the zope and schooltool packagesets [14:16] which reminds me. schooltool and zope don't have great descriptions. but probably good enough [14:16] I'm +1 on that (as I said in the list) and happy to press the buttons [14:16] yeah, seems fine. I don't think we need to vote per se [14:16] tumbleweed: no objections from me [14:16] tumbleweed: jfdi :) [14:16] will do [14:16] no objections from me too [14:17] #action tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request [14:17] ACTION: tumbleweed to add to zope and schooltool package sets as per menesis request [14:17] #topic ppu applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: ppu applications [14:17] none for today [14:17] #topic motu applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: motu applications [14:17] none for today [14:18] #topic core dev applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: core dev applications [14:18] none for today [14:18] #topic any other business === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: any other business [14:18] there was a doodle poll on possibly changing the early meeting's time. have any of the dmb folks here not voted? [14:19] me [14:19] Laney: please do, then we can lobby for results :) [14:19] seems like 13UTC wins though, which is fine by me [14:20] * Laney clicks zillions of tedious boxes [14:20] micahg is the westmost of us, but only by an hour, so hopefully that will work for him. [14:20] ;) [14:21] does anybody have anything else they'd like to bring up today? [14:21] there [14:21] he agreed to that time and the two previous hours too [14:21] more fool him [14:22] schooltool + zope done [14:22] so, the PPU discussion - what's left to do? Read over the log from the previous meeting and the email thread? Is there a proposal? [14:22] sorry for not having read it yet [14:22] quickly read it now? [14:22] the IRC log was hench though :( [14:22] plus the most involved people aren't here [14:22] the idea was to get a proposal on the list, then we could vote on it [14:23] ah yes [14:23] I probably have to digest this [14:23] but yes, I'd prefer if everyone who had commented on the proposal was here [14:23] or at least someone :P [14:23] yeah ;) [14:23] not sure why that thread is private [14:23] i'll put it on the agenda for next time [14:24] anyway, micahg: thanks for sending it and I'll read/digest/comment soon [14:24] I probably didn't comment the proposal, because I agree with it [14:24] yeah, same [14:24] same [14:24] i wrote it on my todo list and everything [14:25] anything else, or are we done for today? [14:26] * tumbleweed votes for done [14:26] bdrung: you're up in 2 weeks [14:26] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:26] Meeting ended Mon Apr 8 14:26:38 2013 UTC. [14:26] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-08-14.01.moin.txt [14:26] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-08-14.01.html [14:26] thanks everyone [14:28] yay for a quick meeting [14:29] we should have more of those (therefore discourage applicants, right? :P ) [14:33] tumbleweed: only every 7th meeting :) [14:33] :) === magespawn is now known as magestudy === stgraber_ is now known as stgraber [16:30] \o [16:31] hello [16:31] hi! [16:31] hello [16:31] \o [16:31] #startmeeting [16:31] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:31] Meeting started Mon Apr 8 16:31:21 2013 UTC. The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:31] Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired [16:31] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:31] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [16:31] People may have noticed this before, but we have a new meeting time: 16:30 UTC [16:32] Thanks to Angel Abad (angelabad) who provided a debdiff for quantal for almanah (LP: #1155000), and Christian Kuersteiner (ckuerste) who provided a debdiff for precise for tomcat7 (LP: #1115053). Your work is very much appreciated and will keep Ubuntu users secure. Great job! [16:32] Launchpad bug 1155000 in almanah 0.9 "[SRU] CVE-2013-1853: Almanah doesn't encrypt the database" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155000 [16:32] Launchpad bug 1115053 in tomcat7 (Ubuntu Raring) "Multiple open vulnerabilities in tomcat7 in 12.04 and 11.10" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1115053 [16:32] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:32] I'll go first [16:32] I'm on triage this week [16:33] april planning should all be done with everyone working on it (thanks to mdeslaur and jjohansen for helping me with the planning) [16:33] I was also able to finish the 13.10 planning for the most part [16:34] but there still is a requirement that needs to be nailed down that I am working on. if it goes well, it shouldn't require significant effort for 13.10 [16:35] I worked on refining the unity apparmor abstractions a bit, and plan to push those to the ppa at some point [16:35] I've got a couple of audits to finish up on [16:36] I think performance reviews are all done for now, but I might have something else to do there [16:36] and, hopefully I'll have time to pick up an update [16:36] mdeslaur: you're up [16:37] I'm currently working on the nvidia driver updates [16:37] and am wrestling with jockey at the moment which for some reason doesn't like the new version [16:37] I have haproxy updates to test also [16:37] so I'll probably be publishing those two this week [16:37] and will go down the list, time permitting [16:37] that's it from me [16:37] oh, and am on community [16:38] sbeattie: you're up [16:38] I'm once again working on display manager confinement [16:38] I'm focusing on writing some example applications to help drive where we need to mediate in the display manager. [16:39] awesomesauce [16:39] I sadly have one last objective task to finish up, due to brain-damage on my part last week. [16:39] and that's pretty much it for me. [16:39] tyhicks: you're up [16:39] sbeattie: I gave you a link last week about touch apps that use the SDK. you may be able to use/steal one of those (I didn't look at them at all though, so fyi only) [16:40] yeah, I'll look at those [16:40] I'm working on work items from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/security-1304-appisolation-dbus [16:40] Currently finishing up the "dbus - parser tests" [16:40] I started on it last week and still have some more to do [16:40] After that, I'll likely start on one of the other test related work items [16:41] In spare time, I'm trying to get an eCryptfs fix for improved AES-NI performance ready for the 3.10 merge window [16:41] That's it for me [16:41] jjohansen: you're up [16:42] I am working on the apparmor labeling work again this week. [16:42] I will be pushing an updated kernel that merges the current labeling and dbus dev branches [16:43] jjohansen: do you think that the socket labelling stuff will make it into that kernel too? [16:43] and there will be some dbus testing under the new labeled sockets [16:43] tyhicks: yes [16:43] good to hear :) [16:44] sarnold: your up [16:45] I'm finishing up some vbulletin plugin reviews today; I've got another package for MIR audit to do [16:46] my first charm was accepted into the charm store :) I haven't yet looked to see exactly how someone else would use it, but I'm hoping to address one of the raised issues (admin email address) -- they've got a 30-day-quiet --> implies api is somewhat 'fixed' sort of rule, and I'd like to avoid tripping that :) [16:47] perhaps depending upon priorities I'll get to that this week, perhaps not [16:47] sarnold: oh, cool, congrats! [16:47] thanks mdeslaur :) [16:47] chrisccoulson: you're up [16:48] i've been working on mozilla updates this week. thanks to jdstrand for walking me through that process :) [16:48] sarnold: congrats on the charm acceptance! :) [16:48] there's currently some process issues wrt webapps [16:49] sarnold: was that the unattended upgrades one? [16:49] i'm also tracking a couple of crashes from the firefox update [16:49] jdstrand: thanks, yes, unattended-upgrades :) [16:49] sarnold: nice [16:50] chrisccoulson: you're welcome-- you did a great job :) [16:50] unfortunately, not much progress with chromium automated testing this last week, but i'll hopefully be able to get back on that this week [16:50] chrisccoulson: congrats on the first one down :) [16:50] there's still issues with chromium crashing on arm, which i've not been able to reproduce on my system [16:51] i need to take a look at that this week to unblock updates for U4A [16:53] i guess we need to start to figure out our webkit story this week, which is somewhat complicated by last weeks announcement [16:53] i was going to suggest that one way of solving our 2-supported-js-engines-in-main issue would be to enable v8 in qtwebkit [16:54] but it seems that following last weeks announcement, apple are purging the v8 bindings [16:54] fun [16:54] so that idea is a non-starter really [16:54] i think that's it from me [16:55] so I think it's back to me [16:55] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:55] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:55] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:55] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/network-manager-openvpn.html [16:55] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/mpack.html [16:55] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gromacs.html [16:55] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/ngircd.html [16:55] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/revelation.html [16:55] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:55] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:57] mdeslaur, sbeattie, tyhicks, jjohansen, sarnold, chrisccoulson: thanks! [16:58] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:58] Meeting ended Mon Apr 8 16:58:01 2013 UTC. [16:58] Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-08-16.31.moin.txt [16:58] Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-08-16.31.html [16:58] thanks jdstrand :) [16:58] thanks jdstrand [16:58] thanks jdstrand! [16:58] thanks! [16:58] jdstrand: thanks [16:58] thanks [16:58] mdeslaur: oh, I forgot to thank you for preparing the meeting wiki pages [16:58] mdeslaur: so, thank you :) [16:58] haha [16:58] you're welcome :P === james_ is now known as Guest53945 === mcs_ is now known as matt_symes