| pitti | Good morning | 06:08 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 06:45 |
| jibel | good morning | 06:45 |
| pitti | bonjour jibel | 06:46 |
| jibel | bonjour pitti | 06:47 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj: Are you here? | 07:59 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw, yeah? | 08:04 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj: PM? | 08:05 |
| Noskcaj | sure | 08:05 |
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| chrisccoulson | is there anybody who enjoys debugging test failures and wants to get their hands dirty? | 12:06 |
| chrisccoulson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.tag=moz-test-regression | 12:06 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 12:06 |
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| smartboyhw | phillw: How ya doing today? | 15:54 |
| phillw | hi smartboyhw I'm well, how's things with you? | 15:55 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: good:) | 15:55 |
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| chrisccoulson | jibel, is there any way to find out the binary package version installed for autopkgtest runs? i can find the source package version in the test logs. it seems that the test runs fire when there is a new source package, but before the binary packages have built and become available | 16:27 |
| chilicuil | ~~ | 16:35 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, oh right, looking at the logs for run #149 of firefox-trunk version of the source package is firefox-trunk 23.0~a1~hg20130407r127941-0ubuntu1~umd1 and version of the binary is firefox-trunk 23.0~a1~hg20130405r127690-0ubuntu1~umd1 | 16:36 |
| jibel | hmmm | 16:36 |
| jibel | chrisccoulson, okay, I've an idea how to fix that. thanks for pointing this out. | 16:37 |
| chrisccoulson | jibel, awesome, thanks | 16:40 |
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| SergioMeneses | morning! | 17:14 |
| SergioMeneses | smartboyhw, phillw \o | 17:14 |
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| phillw | hiyas SergioMeneses | 17:34 |
| phillw | balloons: you have mail :) | 19:11 |
| * balloons looks | 19:12 | |
| SergioMeneses | jejeje | 19:21 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, \o\ | 19:21 |
| phillw | SergioMenesesit looks a bit of a mess :( | 19:22 |
| balloons | bah, nosckaj isn't about | 20:08 |
| balloons | phillw, my thoughts are 1500 and 1499 are not the same | 20:09 |
| balloons | 1465 is supposed to be for the small changes for ppc for netboot | 20:09 |
| balloons | we can easily re-assign testcases to products if they are incorrect of course.. | 20:10 |
| balloons | in this case, I need the ppc testers help.. | 20:10 |
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| phillw | balloons: what is the difference between 1499 and 1500 ? apart from we do actually check that tasksel is there on 1500 (always a good move). | 20:19 |
| phillw | as for 1465 it is now an extension of 1499 (does the system re-boot), 1500 (we do actually have tasksel) and 1465 which says 'now install what you want'. I'm all for 1500, but what has 1465 got to do with testing the mini-iso has installed? | 20:23 |
| phillw | I can just as easily follow up 1500 and put ubuntu-unity on it? | 20:23 |
| phillw | let me just go and pull in the 13.04 tasksel to see what it offers :) | 20:25 |
| phillw | balloons: It would be a good idea anyway, as I need to check it still offers LAMP :) | 20:27 |
| phillw | balloons: I suggest you install it and see the number of choices :D | 20:28 |
| balloons | phillw, the difference is booting | 20:29 |
| balloons | one uses a mini iso | 20:29 |
| balloons | the other uses a tarball and grub entry | 20:29 |
| phillw | An application test case would be more fitting... launch it, offer how to navigate it, and then let a user flag up if one of the 42 options do not work. | 20:30 |
| phillw | balloons: are you refering to 1501? | 20:32 |
| phillw | balloons: ahh, 1500 ... yup, good application test, but it does assume you have a running system to edit the grub on. This is not really testing does the debian network iso actually work on a virgin system? As it is marked mandatory, it would mean that if the iso installs perfectly on a machine, it would not get passed because no one has carried out that test. Thus, it is, at best 'optional'. | 20:37 |
| phillw | same as the pxe test also requires a running machine in order to tell it where to get the image from. If you have a blank formatted hard drive.... you cannot use either. | 20:38 |
| phillw | IIRC, pxe is more used on VM's than actual kit? | 20:38 |
| phillw | or on machines with a /boot partition which holds the minimal amount to actually get to "where do I boot from" :D | 20:39 |
| phillw | balloons: I recall a similar discussion, when things went a bit crazy at 12.10 release. we could not test all the 'madatory' test cases for ppc-server, simply because we did not have the equipment, it was none other than the guy who 'looks after' mini/netboot who said that as long as it boots and runs, that is enough for the iso-tracker...... | 20:42 |
| balloons | if you want to remove the tests as mandatory, that's also an option :-) | 20:55 |
| phillw | balloons: I'll bounce the idea off colin watson, I cannot see him having an issue. the mini-netboot iso's simply 'arrive' from debian. Are you okay to have the mini-iso / netboot iso check to see that tasksel is actually there? | 21:01 |
| phillw | I do think that is quite vital! | 21:01 |
| balloons | check that you get a tasksel? | 21:01 |
| balloons | why wouldn't you? I certainly hope you would :-) | 21:01 |
| Noskcaj | the testing tracker is missing beta 2 | 21:04 |
| phillw | I will have a look through the test-cases and ensure that the check for task-sel does only list the options and not actually install anything (I am pretty darn sure that 1500 does this. | 21:04 |
| phillw | balloons: as second point with using mini/netboot we only offer 'use entire disk', do you want me to check on if it supports side by side as an option? | 21:06 |
| phillw | he he, i now have the daily mini-iso on my dedicated server.... let me try that command again on my own computer..... darn these windows! | 21:07 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: you have a good point! | 21:08 |
| phillw | I'm really scoring 0% on my observency checks this evening! | 21:09 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, for mini-iso it's not really a daily. it will randomly update. i've seen it update 3 times a day once | 21:10 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: all the beta 2's for the flavours are on http://phillw.net/isos/ | 21:10 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: we were discussing that some of mandatory test cases, are not. | 21:11 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, i'm able to get them, i'm just surprised they aren't on the tracker. | 21:11 |
| phillw | I'll let balloons go and check with the -release team where the Beta 2 entry went :D | 21:11 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 21:11 |
| balloons | Noskcaj, yea, I noticed it was gone also | 21:12 |
| balloons | it was misplaced as archived | 21:12 |
| phillw | I think stephane may have gone AFK. | 21:12 |
| balloons | i'll fix it now | 21:12 |
| Noskcaj | on the topic of the testcases, why do only kubuntu and ubuntu have lvm + encryption | 21:12 |
| balloons | done :-) | 21:12 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: I'm sure I saw it on lubuntu? It is part of ubiquity which we all share? | 21:13 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, yeah | 21:13 |
| phillw | well, not ubiquity, as that is the GUI.. but the script for part-man | 21:14 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: the mini-isos arrive as per release from debian, there has been one occaission when the -release team did not update the iso-tracker. And knowing full well "Sod's Law" it was the day when one of the L-QA team installed the iso, and it failed :D | 21:19 |
| Noskcaj | for anyone willing to help, i'm working on a magazine article foe xubuntu at http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-articles-testing | 21:20 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: well, you have the classroom sessions; along with news of what did not work in 12.10 and will be resolved in 13.04 :) | 21:21 |
| Noskcaj | also, i'm going for membership. can someone have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Noskcaj | 21:22 |
| phillw | Noskcaj: I've added mine, but it does need a bit of 'tidying up' :) | 21:37 |
| phillw | (not my refernce... the page). | 21:37 |
| Noskcaj | phillw, yeah, i'll work on that soon | 21:37 |
| JoseeAntonioR | phillw: classroom sessions, you said? | 21:43 |
| phillw | JoseeAntonioR: who did?> | 21:43 |
| JoseeAntonioR | phillw: you | 21:43 |
| JoseeAntonioR | mentioned Noskcaj he'd have the classroom sessions | 21:44 |
| phillw | JoseeAntonioR: indeed, I am guilty as charged.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_3 | 21:44 |
| JoseeAntonioR | oh, you meant the past sessions | 21:45 |
| JoseeAntonioR | got it | 21:45 |
| phillw | it is for a reference, as in what he HAS done, not what he WILL do (although, he WILL be holding classroom sessions again :P ) | 21:46 |
| phillw | as will all of us, plus some new comers :) | 21:46 |
| * phillw looks at JoseeAntonioR and listens to SergioMeneses laughing :D | 21:48 | |
| SergioMeneses | hey! | 21:48 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, why? | 21:49 |
| phillw | SergioMenesesthe aren't that bad to do (classroom sessions), are they? | 21:49 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, I don't know | 21:50 |
| phillw | where you not there for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom#Section_4 SergioMeneses? | 21:50 |
| phillw | has you listed! | 21:50 |
| SergioMeneses | :O | 21:51 |
| phillw | Don't tell me you got a 'sick note; from your mummy and chickened out :P | 21:51 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, what is wrong? | 21:54 |
| phillw | SergioMeneses you where on those classroom sessions ?!!! | 21:58 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, yes, testing on laptops | 22:01 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, why are you asking that? | 22:09 |
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| SergioMeneses | phillw, ? | 22:28 |
| phillw | SergioMeneses that was answered on ##phillw earlier? | 22:31 |
| phillw | stop confusing me as switch from chromium over to Ffox as my main browser! | 22:31 |
| SergioMeneses | phillw, lol | 22:31 |
| SergioMeneses | ok | 22:31 |
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