[03:38] <Takagami> Ugh...
[06:48] <dholbach> good morning
[07:18] <mzanetti> good morning
[07:45] <postmodern> ping anyone awake?
[07:46] <labsin> Anybody tried to build the Gallery (or any other) app from the touch previouw in qt creator?
[08:18] <MANOfJosh> Hi, I'm a nexus 4 user and would like to have clarification on a couple of my queries.
[08:18] <MANOfJosh> Will ubuntu install from recovery wipe all data in phone including music, nandroid backups?
[08:21] <nik90> I need some help with my qtcreator...it is spitting out error that it cannot find ubuntu components .. help pls
[08:26] <popey> nik90: what's the error?
[08:26] <ktogias-office> Hi. I own a mutitouch x86 (not arm) tablet/ultrabook hybrid device and have done some testing with ubuntu 12.10 and 13.04 beta2. I have posted results, fixes and other related info on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1121379 . Maybe some of this stuff is interesting or useful for ubuntu touch team... You are kindly invited to give a look, if you find it relevant with your work.
[08:26] <popey> MANOfJosh: if you use our script, it will wipe the device
[08:27] <postmodern> is there a status/roadmap page for ubuntu phone?
[08:27] <nik90> popey: there was a recent update to the ppa..which reinstalled my qtcreator..now whenever I try to compile my projects, it gives the error "Cannot find ubuntu components"
[08:27] <nik90> popey: however if I run qmlscene from the terminal, it successfully runs the project
[08:28] <postmodern> im waiting for the phone image to become usable
[08:28] <postmodern> thinking of eventually flashing this LG Mach LS860 with it
[08:28] <popey> nik90: do you have qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin installed?
[08:29] <popey> postmodern: yes. 1) make a working image, 2) get OEMs to ship it, 3) ??? , 4) Profit!!!!1111
[08:29] <nik90> popey: yes I have it installed (version 0.1.40~precise1)
[08:29] <postmodern> popey, im more interested in the missing features and hardware support
[08:29] <nik90> popey: somehow qtcreator is unable to find it I think
[08:30] <popey> postmodern: we're working on that roadmap and will make it public shortly
[08:30] <popey> ^^ Mirv seen this? qtcreator unable to find components in precise?
[08:31] <MANOfJosh> popey: The reference to your script applies to install from recovery too?
[08:31] <MANOfJosh> Btw, Thanks for your time.
[08:32] <popey> MANOfJosh: I only ever flash using the phablet-flash tool, you could look at that and see?
[08:34] <nik90> popey: screenie http://i.imgur.com/OxWvw7E.png
[08:34] <popey> nik90: if you "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk" does it pull in additional packages?
[08:35] <popey> and do you have the ppa enabled as per http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/gomobile/ ?
[08:37] <nik90> popey: I have both the ppa mentioned installed on my system..and trying to install ubuntu-sdk does not pull any more new packages
[08:38] <nik90> popey: although I do notice something strange..if I run projects which I had in my system before the update they compile as usual..however if I bzr branch new code now and try to run it, it fails with the error :(
[08:40] <popey> how odd
[08:40] <nik90> popey: do you think, I should just reinstall the whole qtcreator, ubuntu components ppa from scratch?
[08:42] <popey> well, it shouldn't need that..
[08:42] <Mirv> popey: not really, but might be configuration issue
[08:42] <popey> interested to know what's missing, because others may have this issue
[08:42] <Mirv> nik90: do you mind resetting your qt creator configuration, it might be the problem if you've everything properly installed otherwise?
[08:42] <popey> I just did a bzr pull of ubuntu-clock-app and opened and ran it from qtcreator here on raring
[08:42] <nik90> Mirv: how I reset the qtcreator config?
[08:43] <nik90> popey: I had this all running fine on friday...and now something weird has happened
[08:43] <Mirv> nik90: only from command line, but like this: rm -r .config/Trolltech.conf .config/Qt* .config/Nokia*  (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator/+bug/1164504)
[08:43] <Mirv> nik90: ok well that's then even weirder, it might be actually some problem
[08:43] <Mirv> nik90: I noticed the SDK team had uploaded this new 0.1.40 release of components on Friday
[08:44] <Mirv> I'll fire up my precise machine, which was also working just fine last week
[08:44] <nik90> Mirv: exactly after the update, it messed up
[08:45] <nik90> Mirv: I think it works now :)
[08:46] <Mirv> nik90: the new Qt Creator was fine, I copied it in place - seems to still run fine with the old ubuntu-ui-toolkit version. trying upgrade now.
[08:46] <Mirv> nik90: ok, sounds good :) I'll test the 0.1.40 on my precise as well
[08:47] <Mirv> seems to continue to work after upgrade, which is good. although it doesn't solve what went wrong on your machine.
[08:48] <nik90> Mirv: I'll keep your command rm -r .config/Trolltech.conf .config/Qt* .config/Nokia* bookmarked for future use if I run into this issue again...but for now everything seems resolved and all files compile without any problem
[08:48] <popey> excellent, thanks Mirv
[08:49] <nik90> popey, Mirv : thanks for ur help :)
[08:49] <Mirv> no problem
[08:51] <vasilise> hi guys!!!
[08:51] <vasilise> can i connect a LG T1910B touch screen monitor to ubuntu and work fine the touch?
[08:59] <vasilise> ?
[09:01] <nik90> vasilise: do you mean the ubuntu touch images?
[09:02] <ktogias-office> Are touch images use X.org? Or Mir?
[09:02] <nik90> vasilise: I think currently you can install the regular ubuntu on your desktop pc (connected to the touch monitor), run the ubuntu touch core apps like clock, calendar, calculator etc..and control them using touch input on the monitor
[09:02] <nik90> ktogias-office: Currently touch images use android display server surfacefinger
[09:02] <ktogias-office> ok
[09:02] <nik90> ktogias-office: it is expected to use Mir in the coming months though
[09:04] <nik90> ckpringle: good morning :)
[09:05] <vasilise> you think that the touch will work?
[09:06] <nik90> vasilise: I think that the touch should work since even now you can use the ubuntu desktop using touch input (i.e if you have a touch monitor)
[09:06] <nik90> vasilise: so I see no reason why the ubuntu core apps wouldn't
[09:06] <vasilise> ok i will try it. Thank you very much
[09:06] <ktogias-office> So, you have no experience/interest with X.org and multitouch support. Right? I have a  bug "triggered 'if(!(event->device_event.flags & (1 << 5)))'" appearing in xorg logs when testing desktop raring (and older releases) and I was wondering if this is a relevant place to seek some help.
[09:08] <nik90> ktogias-office: the ubuntu-touch images will never use X.org for sure. and work is being done to make Unity use qml/qt (unity-next) and run on Mir
[09:09] <nik90> ktogias-office: so no, I do not think this is the right place for xorg errors...although you could check in #ubuntu regarding this
[09:09] <nik90> you can always submit the bug report
[09:11] <ktogias-office> Thanks for your reply nik90. I have filled a bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/1121379 . But seem to be the only one actively working with it :( . And if ubuntu plans are away of xorg, maybe none from ubuntu tech team want to fix it...
[09:12] <ktogias-office> Will advances made in ubuntu touch images be also available in ubuntu desktop versions? I have a x86 tablet/ultrabook hybrid. Can I test any of the work ubuntu touch work on it? (I knw you are currently working on arm based systems)
[09:13] <nik90> ktogias-office: I think by 14.04 the plan is have one common code base for phones, desktops, tablets etc...meaning that the advances in ubuntu touch will definitely come over to the desktop
[09:14] <nik90> ktogias-office: even if the unity team moves to Mir, it will take a couple of releases..so they might fix ur bug
[09:16] <tsdgeos> zsombi: any reason why http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688841/ should not "open" a selector when click on the values on the desktop?
[09:16] <ktogias-office> Will there be some testing image (or repo) for installing ubuntu touch on intel processor machines?
[09:17] <zsombi> tsdgeos: what do you mean not open? Expand?
[09:17] <tsdgeos> zsombi: let me choose some other vales
[09:17] <tsdgeos> values
[09:28] <egyangel> can i install ubunto touch in nexus 7 (3g) ??
[09:29] <egyangel> hello!!
[09:30] <labsin> I'm trying to launch the gallery-app in qt5 on raring but I get errors.
[09:30] <labsin> Frist module Ubuntu.HUD not found (so I commented them out) any whay to get these on the desktop?
[09:31] <labsin> I also had to copy the qml files in the build directory cause they aren't copied automaticly
[09:32] <labsin> And now I get "Type AlbumViewerAnimated unavailable"
[09:33] <labsin> This is a type that should reflect to a qml file in the same directory. The first qml file is loaded from a cpp file in an other project in the gallery-app.
[09:36] <tsdgeos> zsombi: did you answer me while i was offline maybe?
[09:36] <egyangel> hi all I want to ask if it possible to install ubunto touch into nexus 7 (3g)?
[09:37] <zsombi> tsdgeos: nope, I was asking what you meant about "should not open"? is open == expand?
[09:37] <tsdgeos> zsombi: let's put it this way, it's a value selector with values. How am i supposed to select the other values?
[09:39] <zsombi> tsdgeos: The ValueSelectors are OK as far as I can see, so there anint supposed to be anything wrong with that
[09:39] <zsombi> tsdgeos: but what I see that it may not expand
[09:40] <zsombi> tsdgeos as you enforce the Column height to its parent.height
[09:40] <tsdgeos> zsombi: there's plenty of space
[09:42] <zsombi> tsdgeos: so, is the problem that the value selector does not expand?
[09:42] <ogra_> sergiusens, the sync script will now pull raring-phablet too
[09:43] <greyback_> egyangel: check if it is listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[09:43] <tsdgeos> zsombi: the problem is that i can't choose any value, i'm not sure how the value selector let's me choose values, if it's by a popup, expanding vertically, horizontally or whatnot
[09:44] <zsombi> tsdgeos: ok, now I got it :) yes, the ValueSelector expands in place, no popup called or so
[09:44] <tsdgeos> if it has to expand vertically
[09:44] <tsdgeos> i wonder why it doesn't
[09:45] <tsdgeos> since there's plenty of space
[09:45] <zsombi> tsdgeos: it does for me
[09:45] <zsombi> just added it to a document, and it expands
[09:45] <tsdgeos> zsombi: i'm running that in qmlscene and doesn't :_/
[09:46] <zsombi> tsdgeos: any warnings logged?
[09:46] <tsdgeos> nope, nothing
[09:46] <zsombi> tsdgeos: running on raring?
[09:46] <tsdgeos> Cimi: you having the same problem with http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688841/ not expanding vertically right?
[09:46] <tsdgeos> zsombi: yep
[09:47] <zsombi> 32bit or 64?
[09:47] <tsdgeos> 64
[09:47] <zsombi> same here, and it works fine...
[09:48] <tsdgeos> zsombi: using raring sdk or your own build
[09:48] <tsdgeos> ?
[09:48] <tsdgeos> i'm with 0.1.38
[09:48] <zsombi> my own... I don't have the SDK installed on my desktop
[09:49] <zsombi> tsdgeos: there supposed to be a newer release, however the ListItems were not touched lately...
[09:49] <tsdgeos> i see
[09:50] <tsdgeos> greyback_: Saviq: can you check if you can expand the value selector of http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688841/ on quantal?
[09:50] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ↑
[09:50] <tsdgeos> er
[09:50] <greyback_> okies
[09:50] <tsdgeos> greyback_: Saviq: mzanetti: quantal -> raring sorry
[09:50] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ack
[09:51] <Saviq> tsdgeos, works
[09:51]  * tsdgeos kicks his computer
[09:51] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: works here too
[09:51] <greyback_> tsdgeos: not working for me
[09:51] <mzanetti> on raring that is
[09:51]  * tsdgeos kicks greyback_'s computer too :D
[09:52] <tsdgeos> so what greyback_ and me have or not have that makes it not work?¿
[09:52]  * greyback_ hugs his macbook, mutters comforting words to it about the nasty Spaniard
[09:52] <Saviq> tsdgeos, the ResponsiveGridView works for me under qmlscene, too
[09:53] <greyback_> tsdgeos: I'm investigating
[09:54] <greyback_> tsdgeos: try an update. With the SDK trunk it works
[09:54] <tsdgeos> greyback_: i'm updated
[09:54] <tsdgeos> Saviq: mzanetti: maybe you have some sdk ppa?
[09:54] <greyback_> tsdgeos: maybe last release broke something. hmm
[09:54] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team
[09:55] <Saviq> me purges
[09:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5688925/ this looks suspicious
[09:55] <tsdgeos> :D
[09:55] <tsdgeos> i'm on 0.1.38
[09:56] <mzanetti> oh... so apparently last update fixed something :D
[09:57] <greyback_> tsdgeos: me too
[09:58] <greyback_> bbiab
[10:00] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yeah, 0.1.38 has it broken
[10:01] <tsdgeos> great
[10:01] <tsdgeos> all cleared up then
[10:01] <tsdgeos> we just need more releases into raring
[10:01] <tsdgeos> it's feeling old already :D
[10:02] <mzanetti> hehe
[10:03] <ppisati> guys, where can i find a changelog about prebuilt images?
[10:07] <postmodern> ppisati, probably the release notes?
[10:08] <ogra_> ppisati, on cdimage
[10:08] <ppisati> postmodern: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled.changelog
[10:08] <ppisati> postmodern: empty
[10:08] <ogra_> ppisati, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled.changelog ... no changes today
[10:09] <ogra_> you can also diff the manifest (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/quantal-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.manifest) with yesterdays
[10:09] <ogra_> to see if it lies :)
[10:11] <ogra_> sergiusens, how about raring changelog and manifest ?
[12:07] <labsin> What'll be the best practice for a Settings page in QML for Ubuntu touch? Best to add a tab with setting or a link in the action menu?
[12:07] <ogra_> use the action menu iirc thats what it is for
[12:14] <labsin> ogra_: do you know if any of the core apps already have some preferences. Will such things be better implemented in the future? (I know it's all a bit to early but can't wait)
[12:15] <ogra_> i would exxpect that there will be some kind of settings api in the future ... not sure there is already anything
[12:19] <nik90> labsin: currently there is no setting ui for core apps (atleast for the clock app) I am sure...
[12:19] <labsin> ok
[12:19] <nik90> labsin: we are still waiting for the design for that...although your best bet would be to add a new tab page for all settings...That's what some community developed apps are doing at the moment
[12:22] <labsin> I was thinking Ubuntu would go in that direction to. Is there a timespan in when to expect that these qml components will be fully compatible with the desktop (like arrows for tab navigation, hud integration etc). Is it planed for 13.10 or even later?
[12:22] <nik90> labsin: not sure about that..
[12:24] <labsin> Cause the comulity qml apps now use a lot of hacks to get good dektop support. I really like the idea of a 'Unified' moddle and scaling the layout etc. I'll just have to wait then
[12:25] <ogra_> the scaling bit will depend on Mir which will make that part completely transparent
[12:28] <labsin> But the eta of 2014 is a bit hard...
[12:28] <ogra_> hard ?
[12:28] <ogra_> do you think we should have said 2015 rather ?
[12:29] <smartboyhw> Or do you mean it should eta now?
[12:29] <ogra_> (the plan is to actually have a fully functional basic phone by 13.10 btw ... 14.04 is tablet/convergence/highend phone, etc)
[12:42] <P3T3> Hi all, still have trouble with daily preinstalled
[13:26] <shylockshao> i'm shylockshao
[13:27] <mpt> ivanka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone
[13:28] <ivanka> thanks mpt
[13:36] <oSoMoN> mhall119: ping
[13:36] <mhall119> oSoMoN: pong
[13:37] <oSoMoN> mhall119: would you mind top-approving (or have someone else top-approve) https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-phone-commons/appTemplate-packaging-fixes/+merge/157077 ?
[13:40] <mhall119> oSoMoN: done
[13:40] <mhall119> oSoMoN: thanks for the MP, I'll work on applying it to the core apps today
[13:42] <oSoMoN> mhall119: excellent, thanks
[13:42] <oldercoder> hey guys
[13:43] <oldercoder> where can i download ubuntu for my tablet
[13:43] <oldercoder> ?
[13:44] <smartboyhw> oldercoder, what tablet are you using?
[13:44] <oldercoder> huawei mediapad 10 FHD
[13:45] <smartboyhw> oldercoder, I'm extremely sorry to say that there isn't a port for it. However you can port it yourself!
[13:46] <oldercoder> so i can port it myself?
[13:48] <smartboyhw> oldercoder, sure do!
[13:48] <oldercoder> can you send me ubuntu download link ?
[13:49] <smartboyhw> oldercoder, you want to download which version?
[13:50] <oldercoder> im newbie in this subject , i dont know , just be good :D
[13:51] <smartboyhw> ogra_, what Ubuntu release do we recommend for porters?
[13:51] <ogra_> ?
[13:51] <ogra_> porting only happens to the android stack
[13:51] <smartboyhw> ogra_, OK good. I will recommend LTS then.
[13:51] <smartboyhw> oldercoder, releases.ubuntu.com/preciswe
[13:52] <smartboyhw> *precise
[13:52] <ogra_> oh, you mean as a workstation ?
[13:52] <smartboyhw> ogra_, er yep
[13:52] <ogra_> yeah, 64bit precise
[13:53] <oldercoder> thank you smartBOY
[14:00] <Guest33231> hi, version 66 = no keyboard for wireless network password ? any idea ?
[14:02] <smartboyhw> Guest33231, version 66 of what?
[14:02] <Guest33231> grouper / nexus 7
[14:06] <rickspencer3> Guest33231, try rebooting, there was a bug on that last week
[14:06] <rickspencer3> every few reboots the keyboard wouldn't show up for the wireless
[14:06]  * rickspencer3 looks
[14:07] <Guest33231> ok i try
[14:08] <Guest33231> thanks you
[14:08] <Guest33231> working now
[14:44] <oldercoder> hey guys , ubuntu touch already release ??????
[14:44] <cyphermox> oldercoder: depends what you mean by release
[14:44] <cyphermox> there are daily releases for testing and development, for the nexus 4, nexus 7 and galaxy nexus that have been blessed already
[14:44] <oldercoder> it mean , can i install it on my tablet?
[14:45] <cyphermox> and some others being worked on (though I'm not sure the exact status of other devices)
[14:45] <oldercoder> my tablet is not nexus , so i cant install?
[14:45] <cyphermox> oldercoder: I suggest looking at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch
[14:45] <cyphermox> specifically, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working.2C_but_not_available_from_cdimage.u.c
[15:29] <kgunn> pete-woods: hey would you mind joining #ubuntu-unity
[15:33] <mterry> mzanetti, why did you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity/dont-halt-on-test-failure/+merge/157607 ?
[15:33] <mterry> mzanetti, seems bad
[15:34] <mzanetti> mterry: why?
[15:35] <mterry> mzanetti, why wouldn't you want a runtests.sh script to fail on a test failure?
[15:36] <mzanetti> because I want to know all failed tests, not just the first failing one
[15:36] <mterry> mzanetti, makes it much harder to use in, say, debian/rules if it doesn't return an error code on failure
[15:36] <mzanetti> mterry: ^
[15:36] <mzanetti> mterry: you can't use this in debian/rules
[15:36] <mterry> mzanetti, that was just an example
[15:37] <mterry> mzanetti, I just feel that test run scripts should return whether the tests succeeded, eh?  I'm not opposed to adding the -k, but at least save the return value
[15:37] <mzanetti> mterry: it generates *test*.xml with reports
[15:37] <mzanetti> mterry: and if one of them contains a failed test, the jenkins light will turn yellow
[15:37] <mterry> mzanetti, that's not machine-checkable is my point
[15:38] <mzanetti> mterry: the runtests script is really meant to generate statistics
[15:38] <mterry> mzanetti, if you think it's fine in this case, I'll defer to your judgement
[15:38] <mzanetti> mterry: if you want blocking behaviour, just run "make alltests"
[15:38] <mzanetti> mterry: that does exactly what you want
[15:38] <mzanetti> mterry: runtests is used to generate the fancy graphics in jenkins
[15:39] <mterry> mzanetti, maybe it should be called generate-test-statistics.sh or something then ;)
[15:39] <mterry> mzanetti, but I'm just being a punk; it's fine
[15:39] <mzanetti> mterry: no problem... its good to have people taking care of details
[15:40] <mzanetti> mterry: but in this case we really need the -k
[15:40] <mzanetti> mterry: as I said... just run "make alltests" if you want an error when a test fails
[16:24] <jhodapp> rsalveti, I forget how we debug the Android side segfaults (other than using printf's): do we have gdb for it?
[16:24] <rsalveti> jhodapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/UbuntuDebugAndroid
[16:25] <jhodapp> thanks
[16:25] <rsalveti> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Core/UbuntuDebugAndroid
[16:25] <rsalveti> was moved
[16:25] <jhodapp> rsalveti, yeah, know the new link?
[16:25] <rsalveti> jhodapp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Core/UbuntuDebugAndroid
[16:26] <jhodapp> rsalveti, so I'm not trying a hybris layer right now, just purely an Android binary using an Android set of libraries
[16:27] <rsalveti> jhodapp: oh, right
[16:27] <jhodapp> rsalveti, all bionic side
[16:27] <rsalveti> not sure if gdb would work there
[16:28] <rsalveti> jhodapp: something along http://www.kandroid.org/online-pdk/guide/debugging_gdb.html
[16:28] <jhodapp> rsalveti, I'm getting a crash in an Android provided test app that's trying to send an AMessage() instance (so over binder)...segfaulting somewhere in there
[16:29] <rsalveti> now we need to find where to grab a compatible gdb server
[16:29] <jhodapp> yes :)
[16:30] <jhodapp> rsalveti, this might work? http://gnutoolchains.com/android/
[16:30] <rsalveti> jhodapp: probably
[16:31] <jhodapp> rsalveti, I'll try it out
[16:32] <rsalveti> jhodapp: yeah, seems the ndk supports that kind of by default
[16:32] <rsalveti> so you just need to hook the things and get it to work
[16:33] <jhodapp> rsalveti, yeah, so seems the NDK ships with a gdb and gdbserver...I'll have to see if it's in the NDK I have
[16:33] <rsalveti> jhodapp: right
[17:00] <Pavel_> hi
[17:01] <Pavel_> Any body there to help
[17:02] <labsin> Pavel_: You can ask. Best to wait maybe 5-10 min afterwards
[17:03] <Pavel_> ok, I'm waiting
[17:05] <labsin> Pavel_: No I meant that it could sometimes take a couple of minutes for someone to notice but most of the times you get a response here.
[17:06] <labsin> And if you don't, you don't have to be afraid to ask it again when ppl are chatting here :)
[17:06] <Pavel_> I want to install ubuntu touch in my tablet
[17:08] <labsin> Which one
[17:09] <Pavel_> Sony tablet S
[17:10] <labsin> Is it on the support list?
[17:10] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices has a list of currently workign devices
[17:10] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting has the guide to do a paort yourself if it is not on that list
[17:12] <labsin> And there is also the posibiltity of a port existing on XDA-developers.com but then you'll have to ask about specifics there.
[17:12] <Pavel_> Not in list
[17:12] <Pavel_> only phones are avilable
[17:12] <ogra_> right, if you are lucky someone on the xda forums did a port
[17:12] <ogra_> ?
[17:13] <ogra_> there are plenty of tablets on that list
[17:13] <ogra_> (or do you mean sony phones)
[17:14] <Pavel_> ya
[17:14] <labsin> Seems no port on xda
[17:15] <labsin> So you'll have to take the plunge or you're out on the fun :/
[17:17] <Pavel_> :(
[17:19] <labsin> If you want to try it, ppl here'll try and help you
[17:19] <ogra_> well, it wont be easy if there is no cyanodenmod port yet
[17:19] <ogra_> *cyanogenmod
[17:20] <Pavel_> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074200 does it works
[17:20] <ogra_> (if there is, its not really a beginner task, but also not hard)
[17:34] <miing> you guys, enjoy it. (https://github.com/miing/utouch_tools_phablet) :)
[17:46] <sergiusens> rsalveti: one more https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/phablet-tools/series_select/+merge/157710
[17:54] <netcurli> can anyone here answer my question on non-blocking access to a local database via qml? https://plus.google.com/u/0/111619044192746082060/posts/UL862iH8FfG
[17:54] <netcurli> or at least point me in some direction, that could be useful
[18:31] <bobweaver> hello there i am trying to use Tabs for a app and I am trying to check if a sqllight command is a success load this number tab (  selectedTabIndex: ) but I am not sure how to run the test :(  any tips ?  example:     DbUtils.videoPic() [18:34] <bobweaver> bad example better on would be   if (DbUtil.ipAddress() [18:35] <bobweaver> so in other words if the database has the ip Address load tab 1 else load tab 0
[18:56] <pmcgowan> mhall119: how do I get the file manager to run
[18:59] <mhall119> pmcgowan: you need the nemo plugin from the PPA
[19:00] <mhall119> qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugins-folderlistmodel in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages
[19:02] <pmcgowan> mhall119: ack thanks
[19:47] <jhodapp> rsalveti, so I'm getting a crash on the bionic side (only, no hybris involved) in /system/bin/linker, I would think if I'm missing a .so or a symbol that it would raise a runtime exception but maybe bionic is a lot more stripped down?
[19:48] <rsalveti> jhodapp: might be, what is the symbol you're using?
[19:48] <rsalveti> might be good to check at the bionic code to see if it's indeed exported
[19:48] <jhodapp> rsalveti, I'm not sure what symbol it's crashing on yet
[19:48] <rsalveti> jhodapp: right, something you added?
[19:49] <rsalveti> jhodapp: what do you get at your logcat once you get the crash?
[19:49] <jhodapp> rsalveti, no, this is just a test app that comes in the libstagefright sources
[19:50] <rsalveti> jhodapp: weird
[19:50] <jhodapp> rsalveti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5690360/
[19:54] <rsalveti> jhodapp: probably a http://androidxref.com/4.2.2_r1/xref/system/core/libpixelflinger/codeflinger/CodeCache.cpp#68
[19:54] <rsalveti> E/BufferQueue(  127): [A Surface] connect: already connected (cur=3, req=3)
[19:54] <rsalveti> E/MediaCodec( 1409): native_window_api_connect returned an error: Invalid argument (-22)
[19:54] <rsalveti> wonder if that would have any effect
[19:55] <jhodapp> rsalveti, yeah, that's EINVAL for invalid argument
[19:55] <jhodapp> rsalveti, it's not happy connecting to the surface proxy
[19:56] <rsalveti> jhodapp: right
[19:56] <jhodapp> rsalveti, we're running the full surface flinger proxy right?
[19:56] <rsalveti> jhodapp: I think so
[19:57] <rsalveti> jhodapp: what is the gdb stacktrace?
[19:57] <jhodapp> rsalveti, ok, it may not be a problem for me though since qtvideo-node sets up a surface for me anyway...I was just trying to prove that the MediaCodec stuff would work on the Android side before I ventured any further
[19:57] <rsalveti> jhodapp: right
[19:58] <jhodapp> rsalveti,  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5690378/
[19:58] <rsalveti> jhodapp: hm, that's not that useful
[19:58] <jhodapp> rsalveti, and that address points to /system/bin/linker if I look at /proc/my_pid_num/map
[19:58] <rsalveti> jhodapp: did you copy the libs and binaries with symbols before debugging?
[19:58] <jhodapp> sorry, maps
[19:58] <jhodapp> rsalveti, not yet no
[19:59] <rsalveti> that might help getting a better stacktrace if you're indeed interested in fixing or finding why the test is failing :-)
[20:03] <jhodapp> rsalveti, hmm, seems to be jumping around where the segfault is
[20:29] <ivucica> Cheers! What will be the recommended way to port OpenGL ES games from other platforms?
[20:30] <ivucica> Also, how will applications be unpacked on the filesystem? Will they be similar to sandboxed self-contained .app bundles a la iOS, packed up .zips a la Android, or scattered across the filesystem once  they are unpacked from .deb a la Debian and Ubuntu?
[20:42] <labsin> ivuciva: you can specify this in the deb. Propably scattered. It'll be like the Desktop Ubuntu as in the future it's going to be one unified source for all.
[20:47] <labsin> ivucica: And for OpenGL ES, you can write them in cpp (qt) or in qml using the (I don't remember but it's not that usefull on itself). You should search for qt5 examples
[20:47] <ivucica> labsin: Any way to avoid Qt?
[20:48] <labsin> ivucica: it is plain ubuntu so yes. But which i don't know.
[20:50] <labsin> But you'll miss some ubuntu integration but I think as long as you provide the .desktop with icons in the apropriate folders it'll show up nicely in the dash.
[20:53] <ivucica> labsin: Cool. Well, generally, I'm interested in creating my own integration code, without playing with existing frameworks. Brb, rebooting...
[21:11] <RobbyF> can i phablet-flash the raring build ?
[21:12] <labsin> ivucica: You can run binaries and launch a script or issue a command from a terminal. But you'll have to build for armhf. I don't know how you'll have to compile with mesa. Ubuntu and qt are providing libraries and the headers compatible with Qt. I think you can do anything you want from Qt. I don't really know how to do it specificly (have just played a bit with it) and have no clue how to build applications without Qt in Ubuntu tou
[21:12] <labsin> ch.
[21:13] <labsin> cica: probably ivuciva?
[21:17] <cica> hey every one i'm new and i'm looking for the source code of the virtual keyboard on ubuntu phone
[21:20] <labsin> cica: is it in the ubuntu touch core apps ppa?
[21:21] <labsin> it's on launchpad.net
[21:23] <labsin> cica: apperantly not
[21:23] <cica> i don't find it ...
[21:24] <labsin> cica: https://wiki.maliit.org/Plugins (I think)
[21:24] <labsin> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1303-apps-osk
[21:27] <labsin> It says "Short term work items are to integrate maliit-keyboard into Ubuntu Touch to replace nemo-keyboard"
[21:27] <labsin> So for now it's probably one of the two
[21:28] <cica> thanks i just want to analyse a keyboard's code
[22:32] <n-iCe> so there is no Contact person with the GS3
[22:34] <dank101> which one
[22:35] <n-iCe> GT-I9300
[22:35] <dank101> What about?
[22:35] <n-iCe> you asked
[22:35] <dank101> no i ment
[22:36] <n-iCe> oh
[22:36] <dank101> what do you want to know
[22:36] <n-iCe> Well, nothing, is not even supported yet
[22:36] <dank101> Maybe you can fix that
[22:36] <n-iCe> how
[22:36] <dank101> port it
[22:36] <n-iCe> what does that mean
[22:37] <dank101> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[22:37] <dank101> make it real
[22:37] <n-iCe> oh sorry, I'm not a developer
[22:37] <dank101> lol
[22:37] <dank101> who said you needed to be a dev
[22:38] <n-iCe>  If you have experience in porting code to Android devices or are generally knowledgeable in terms of porting, working with the Kernel and other core bits and pieces of a distribution, this might be interesting to you.
[22:38] <n-iCe> I have no idea about it
[22:39] <dank101> this MIGHT be interesting to you
[22:40] <dank101> >interesting
[22:40] <dank101> not impossible
[22:41] <n-iCe> help me
[22:41] <n-iCe> And I will contribute
[22:41] <wilee-nilee> the ye'old cart before the horse offer. ;)
[22:48] <n-iCe> dank101: knew it
[22:51] <labsin> The international GS3 is really a completly other phone than the Ameriacan counterparts. Samsung likes it that way, never got why it uses an other cipset but hey they were doing it for all the galaxy phones. That's why there is no port.
[22:51] <dank101> labsin, stop lying
[22:51] <dank101> i know why it was abounded
[22:52] <dank101> it was "the bleeding a$$" of linux" that stopped develpment
[22:53] <labsin> dank101: ?
[22:53] <dank101> labsin, samsung slacking off on exenoys drivers release
[22:53] <labsin> dank101: yes, what I meant
[22:54] <labsin> Thats only for the International version
[22:54] <dank101> The dev working on it abounded his s3 for the n4
[22:55] <n-iCe> so will never be ported
[22:55] <labsin> Why do they make 2 versions with different chipsets. The difference is enough to give them other namens.
[22:55] <dank101> the code being 99% done
[22:55] <n-iCe> really?
[22:55] <dank101> labsin, Because samsung is retarded
[22:55] <n-iCe> cyanogenmod just runs buggy
[22:55] <dank101> n-iCe, thats why it broke
[22:55] <n-iCe> I'm selling a GS3 intl, who wants it?
[22:55] <n-iCe> *g*
[22:56] <labsin> n-iCe: I give u €2 who gives more?
[22:56] <n-iCe> nu
[22:56] <n-iCe> it is really expensieve
[22:56] <n-iCe> I want a Nexus 4
[22:56] <labsin> I know I know
[22:56] <dank101> Trade it
[22:57] <n-iCe> with who
[22:57] <n-iCe> I think is not even released in mexico
[22:57] <dank101> Mexico, eh?
[22:57] <n-iCe> yup, where I am from
[22:58] <dank101> how much do you want Ubuntu touch?
[22:58] <n-iCe> not sure haha
[22:58] <n-iCe> why
[22:58] <labsin> Seems like the Nexus 4 isn't everything either. Some hardware guys say that some might show hardware flaws after a year or so because of springconnections and adhesives etc. They also have little impactzone.
[22:59] <labsin> No Goolge play here to...
[22:59] <dank101> labsin, tl;dr GOD DANM SAMSUNG BULL*** SECURITY ***ING UP THE N4
[23:00] <labsin> ehhhh
[23:00] <labsin> :D
[23:00] <n-iCe> what's a better phone galaxy note 1 or gs3
[23:01] <labsin> I'm waiting for the Goolge/Motorola phone that they are hopefully anouncing before the summer
[23:01] <dank101> depends n-iCe
[23:02] <n-iCe> on what
[23:02] <labsin> The size
[23:02] <n-iCe> but in general
[23:02] <dank101> n-iCe, Note
[23:02] <dank101> the end
[23:04] <n-iCe> really?!
[23:04] <n-iCe> note 1 not 2
[23:05] <dank101> 2 is better but it doesn't matter
[23:19] <n-iCe> dank101: so the best phone is the nexus 4?
[23:19] <n-iCe> for you guys?