[01:01] <waldo323> is there a meeting tonight?
[01:02] <jjesse> i'm here but a bit afk as i put my son to bed
[01:03] <snap-l> There's a meeting tonight
[01:04] <snap-l> sorry, I'm running a little late
[01:04] <snap-l> Who all is here for the meeting?
[01:04] <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-michigan/514/detail/ <- agenda
[01:04] <Ahuka> I'm not here. I'm just an illusion.
[01:04] <waldo323> quite alright by me, i was lucky to get back with food for the meeting
[01:05] <snap-l> OK, let's get started then
[01:05] <snap-l> We have a few things to cover for the meeting
[01:05] <snap-l> first off: Release party at Penguicon
[01:05] <snap-l> We'll be once again having our release party at penguicon
[01:05] <snap-l> That's on the Friday evening, from 7-8
[01:05] <snap-l> pm
[01:06] <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/2167-ubuntu-1304-release-party/
[01:06] <snap-l> I'll update the event with more information
[01:07] <snap-l> But the short of it is it'll be at the hotel bar.
[01:07] <snap-l> and you'll be able to buy drinks and have a good time
[01:08] <snap-l> in whatever combination of the two you care to do. :)
[01:08] <snap-l> Im not sure if the west side is planning a release party. brousch, do you have any plans set up?
[01:08] <brousch> I do not
[01:09] <jjesse> what is the date?
[01:09] <jjesse> trying to see if i would be around
[01:09] <snap-l> 4/26
[01:09] <jjesse> cool i'll be around on the west side i think
[01:10] <snap-l> If you folks want to plan something, feel free to add it to the events list on the site.
[01:10] <snap-l> that goes for anyone else who wants to set p a release party
[01:11] <snap-l> If you don't have access to the loco calendar, please feel free to find someone who does to add it
[01:11] <brousch> ug, that week is too busy already
[01:11] <snap-l> brousch: Delegate. :)
[01:11] <brousch> mon: grwebdev; tue: friendlycode; wed: grmakers; thu: wmlug
[01:12] <brousch> next mon: glsec conference
[01:12] <snap-l> What is it with the west siders and their conferences? :)
[01:12] <brousch> We have a lot of stuff!
[01:12] <snap-l> Sheesh, you'd think you were a tech hub or something. ;)
[01:12] <brousch> Working on it
[01:13] <snap-l> Anywho, that's what's on the schedule at the moment
[01:13] <waldo323> the 25th is the actual release day right?
[01:13] <snap-l> again, if you want to organize a party, please feel free.
[01:13] <snap-l> waldo323: Not sure. Frankly I've not been paying attention. :)
[01:14] <snap-l> I'd be pleasently surprised if it releases on that date. :)
[01:14] <Ahuka> I'll weait uintil after Penguicon anyway.
[01:14] <snap-l> Anyone running 13.04 at the moment?
[01:15] <snap-l> I've heard the video drivers are vastly improved.
[01:15] <snap-l> as in it'll render in realtime. ;)
[01:16] <waldo323> nice
[01:17] <snap-l> Anything else on the release parties?
[01:17] <snap-l> Definitely hope to see you all there. :)
[01:18] <snap-l> I tried to get a conference pack, but I have a feeling we won't have one in time
[01:18] <snap-l> But there will be plenty of 12.10 DVDs and 12.04 CDs
[01:18] <snap-l> my plan is to leave Penguicon with less DVDs than when I came
[01:18] <snap-l> so take some DVDs and distribute them.
[01:19] <snap-l> 13.04 will not have DVDs, so that's a relief... er, good news.
[01:19] <snap-l> Which brings me to the next topic.
[01:19] <jjesse> brousch, what is glsec?  link to it?
[01:20] <snap-l> http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/514/agenda/1486/update/
[01:20] <snap-l> There was esome talk at the latest UDS about dropping the distinction between Approvedn and Unapproved Locos
[01:21] <snap-l> Which I fully support. I think we've gotten way too hung up on the distinction between which groups are approved, and which ones are unapproved.
[01:22] <snap-l> But regardless of the decision of the Loco Council regarding dropping the approved / unapproved statuses, I think it's time for us to seriouosly think about our approval status
[01:23] <snap-l> and instead switch to unapproved status come the renewal.
[01:23] <snap-l> Reasons are as follows:
[01:24] <snap-l> 1) With the dropping of DVD shipments, and less resources for Canonical to distribute amongst the teams, the distinctions between approved and unapproved become moot.
[01:25] <snap-l> 2) Our group has a lot of intertia, but we're dwingling in time and commitment abilities
[01:25] <snap-l> dwingling? That's a new one. ;)
[01:25] <brousch> please keep your dwingling in your pants
[01:26] <brousch> jjesse: http://glsec.softwaregr.org/
[01:26] <snap-l> 3) I think it's more honest with ourselves about what we're doing as a group. One of the reasons I kept the CHC stuff on the calendar is because it "looked good". But it hasn't been an Ubuntu Hour in over a year.
[01:27] <snap-l> And for selfish reasons, I hate the team reports that are required as part of the approval process. They're a pain in the butt.
[01:27] <snap-l> Is there anyone opposed to us going unapproved should the time come for us to make a decision?
[01:28] <brousch> It is fine with me
[01:28] <Ahuka> No, I don't see any need for it anyway.
[01:28] <snap-l> My hope is the council will do away with the distinction so we won't have to make the decision, but should we be called to make a decision, I think it's the better decision to take.
[01:29] <waldo323> would it make it more difficult for us to become approved again if we found that we wanted to attain that status at some point in the future?
[01:29] <snap-l> If anyone wants to talk offline, please feel free to email me: craig@decafbad.net
[01:29] <snap-l> waldo323: I don't believe so. There's a grace period and some reforming that can happen
[01:30] <snap-l> But I think the process has become entirely too bureaucratic
[01:31] <snap-l> And the traditional reasons for approved teams are going away.
[01:31] <snap-l> The sooner they remove the distinction, the happier folks will be.
[01:32] <waldo323> it would be better to spend the time doing other things than paper work
[01:32] <snap-l> Well, and not kidding ourselves either.
[01:32]  * waldo323 nods
[01:33] <snap-l> OK, so if nothing else on that topic, our last topic:
[01:33] <snap-l> Community Service.
[01:33] <snap-l> This is an idea that's been percolating in my head of just taking out some time (much like the global jam) that isn't tied to a particular event
[01:34] <snap-l> and just do something related to Ubuntu
[01:34] <jjesse> brousch,  thanks
[01:34] <snap-l> No pressure. No drum beating.
[01:35] <snap-l> I don't have much beyond those little notes, but if someone is interested, we could try for something in the next cycle.
[01:35] <snap-l> Give it some thought. There's no need to decide this meeting. :)
[01:36] <waldo323> are you looking for ideas like helping with habitat for humanity for a day and things like that?
[01:36] <snap-l> Not necessarily, but that's something we could do as well.
[01:38] <snap-l> Anywho, if you have any ideas, please feel free to post them to the list
[01:38] <snap-l> and we can discuss at the next meeting
[01:38] <snap-l> Any other business to discuss?
[01:38] <brousch> I can't think of any
[01:42] <snap-l> OK, I think that's it for me
[01:42] <snap-l> and for this meeting
[01:43] <snap-l> Thanks everyone!
[01:43] <waldo323> thank you
[02:57] <jjesse> so i'm here in Brookfield WI and all the Caribou coffees in Milwaukee are closing and only 1 of them is reopening as a Peets
[02:57] <snap-l> Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.
[02:57] <jjesse> they all close next sunday at noon
[02:58] <snap-l> Nice.
[02:58] <snap-l> How very clockwork of them
[02:58] <jjesse> so going to load up before leaving :)
[02:58] <snap-l> I've been buying mugs every time I've gon there
[03:02] <jjesse> nice
[11:58] <brousch> In git, I want to include a certain directory and the README.md within it, but I want to exclude everything else in that dir. How do I do that?
[12:02] <rick_h_> add the rest to .gitignore
[12:02] <rick_h_> always keep a clean git st command
[12:04] <brousch> I think I got it
[12:04] <brousch> backups/*
[12:04] <brousch> ! backups/README.md
[12:06] <brousch> brousch@foxmeat:~/Projects/viget-theme$ git st
[12:06] <brousch> git: 'st' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
[12:07] <rick_h_> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/923/ fixed :P
[12:08] <brousch> Well other people will use this and I want to make sure they don't checkin a backup, which is about 2GB and contains information that shouldn't be in the repo
[12:08] <rick_h_> gotcha
[12:09] <rick_h_> so why the readme in the backup dir?
[12:09] <brousch> To explain why it exists
[12:09] <brousch> The backup dir needs to exist becaus eit gets mapped into a vagrant guest
[12:30] <snap-l> Good morning
[12:31] <rick_h_> morning
[12:38] <brousch> oooh, that's some sneaky shit http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[12:39] <rick_h_> yea, Blazeix I think posted that over the weekend
[12:39] <rick_h_> oh so true
[13:49] <rick_h_> greg-g: _stink_ http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ brilliant!
[14:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: hahahaha
[14:01] <_stink_> i saw a link to that earlier
[14:01] <_stink_> gotta hit it later
[14:54] <brousch> heh
[16:43] <rick_h_> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/04/does-webkit-face-a-troubled-future-now-that-google-is-gone did not expect to see the word 'oracle' in this and now I'm afraid
[17:06] <snap-l> I don't get the hullabaloo
[17:07] <snap-l> My only concern is that Google drags it's heels on releasing the source
[17:07] <snap-l> This reminds me of the XFree86 vs. Xorg split
[17:08] <snap-l> in the end either they'll merge back together, or one will outpce the other one
[17:47] <jcastro> jrwren: is that AD Azure thing basically PAAS AD?
[17:47] <jcastro> like, a company can just pay to have AD?
[17:48] <jrwren> no, I didnt' see that scenario mentioned, although it might work with persistent azure vpn.
[17:49] <jcastro> oh so it's AD for the cloud instances?
[17:49] <jrwren> yes
[17:50] <jrwren> you can federate to your premise AD or extend your permise AD into azure.
[18:05] <snap-l> Annette Funecello died today.
[18:05] <snap-l> All that is good and right in the world is gone
[18:05]  * rick_h_ googles Annette Funecello
[18:07] <jrwren> i was going to mourn by watching beach blanket bingo, but decided on psyco beach party instead.
[18:09] <snap-l> Yeah, that's the problem; most of her work was Disney dreck.
[18:10] <jrwren> arguably the first manufactured actress of disney
[18:10] <snap-l> The proto-Britney
[18:10] <jrwren> she was before hailey mills
[18:10] <jrwren> britney left disney pretty early on.
[18:11] <snap-l> Tried to find a list of Disney Actresses, but unfortunately it was all way too current
[18:11] <snap-l> aka: didn't recognize any names on the list.
[18:12] <snap-l> aka: old
[18:15] <jrwren> I think of that red haired coke head girl as the more modern disney product
[22:46] <avid_fan> !sed
[22:48] <greg-g> ?
[22:51] <snap-l> Who just turned on the regex on my machine?
[22:51] <snap-l> ANSWERS! I WANT ANSWERS!