apacheloggervalorie: <300:25
valorieand this is me on Konvi Version 1.5-branch #4215 on my 32-bit netbook00:43
valorietime to get ready to see my daddy tonight00:44
ScottKI guess we need to decide if the vUDS thing is any better than getting together on Mumble again.01:48
ScottKIn case anyone else noticed the whining on kubuntu-users about kdepim address autocompletion in KDE 4.10.2, I just cherrypicked the fix and uploaded to raring.  Someone who cares might want to update the PPAs too.03:18
valorieScottK: what would be cool is if telepathy became good and reliable for us to us04:55
valorieour own tech04:55
* valorie couldn't get mumble to work04:55
MirvRiddell: have you got any further idea on the skype/qtwebkit issue?07:01
lordievaderGood morning07:16
shadeslayerskype/webkit issue? it works fine for me07:23
lordievaderThere were a couple of people lately with problems, Skype+Raring. (Works fine for me too ;))07:25
apacheloggerdpm: heya, two more apps needing review https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/kubuntu-notification-helper/+imports https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/kubuntu-firefox-installer/+imports07:38
dpmmorning apachelogger, approved :)07:39
apachelogger<3 dpm07:40
apacheloggerdpm: any idea when we would get to see the first langpack export?07:40
apacheloggerwe are very close to having a working localization again :D07:40
dpmapachelogger, I've had not much time to spend on translations this cycle. I'll see if I can block tomorrow to make it a translations day and look at it07:42
apacheloggerdpm: this would be really awesome07:42
yofelshadeslayer: skype + qtwebkit 2.3 + proprietary graphics driver => SIGSEGV07:56
shadeslayerso it's a proprietary driver issue no?07:57
yofelwell, downgrading qtwebkit works for all drivers07:57
yofeland I don't believe they build against qtwebkit07:57
yofelthe bt is crap though, so hardly debuggable07:57
shadeslayerso, RC works and final release doesn't?07:57
yofelno, 2.3 doesn't work, you need to install qtwebkit from 12.1007:58
yofeluse that in raring and skype works fine07:58
shadeslayerusing qtwebkit from 12.10 will be bad for the browsers :/07:59
lordievaderIs it something that can be fixed in the 2.3 version of qtwebkit?07:59
yofeldunno, bug 115532707:59
ubottubug 1155327 in skype (Ubuntu Raring) "skype crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc@plt()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115532707:59
lordievaderHopefully it will be fixed before the release.08:00
apacheloggerI had audio08:06
apacheloggerand then I didn't08:06
apacheloggerah yes08:07
apacheloggerlove of my life08:07
apacheloggerit's like X11 except it's audio08:07
lordievaderHehe and to make it even better there is the combination of Alsa and Pulseaudio :D08:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: any ideas if we should still have this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/nepomuk-core/view/head:/debian/patches/kubuntu_strigi_ram_detection.diff08:11
shadeslayerbecause it won't work08:11
vHandashadeslayer: why don't you just fix the patch?08:11
* shadeslayer wonders who authored that, no DEP 308:11
shadeslayervHanda: yeah, but the question is do we ship it or drop it08:11
apacheloggershadeslayer: no strigiiii08:12
shadeslayerI don't know the reason why we added that patch08:12
apacheloggerat the very leas the patchy name is wrong :P08:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: yeah, so theoretically the 1GB limit is crap08:12
apacheloggerssl in python is broken08:13
shadeslayerreally? 0.o08:13
apacheloggertakes forever and 3 days08:13
apacheloggeror perhaps my pythonssl is broken08:14
shadeslayerwell, I was getting weird errors08:14
apacheloggerI blame alsa08:14
shadeslayerlast night08:14
apacheloggeryou could have pasted the patch ya know :P08:14
apachelogger+    if (service->desktopEntryName() == "nepomukstrigiservice") {08:14
apacheloggerthat's wrong08:14
apacheloggershadeslayer: patch needs changing to nepomukserver08:15
shadeslayerbut do we really need the patch now08:15
shadeslayerbecause strigi is gone08:15
apacheloggerI don't know, ask ScottK08:15
shadeslayerScottK: ^^08:16
shadeslayerIMHO we can just drop it because indexing doesn't take up a boatload of RAM now08:16
apacheloggerfrom the patch it seems that it was added to prevent nepomuk from running on systems with <= 1gib ram08:16
* vHanda would recommend some actual testing08:16
apacheloggerI think vHanda should apply that upstream and reduce the value to something like 512mib08:17
apacheloggerthere is some usefulness to not having it use resources on weak systems08:18
apacheloggerlike say a netbook08:18
apacheloggerthough most netbooks have 1gib so that is probably where that value comes from08:18
vHandaI doubt we will encounter many systems with 512 ram running kde08:18
apacheloggerrecent cheapo tablets also like to have 1gib08:19
apacheloggerroll a dice08:19
vHandaIf you guys have some time to test out how much memory this new file indexer takes that would be awesome08:19
vHandacause it should take a lot less, but I haven't done concrete testing08:19
apacheloggerall nepomuks take 31mib it seems08:20
apacheloggerbeing idle08:20
valorieI just read up, and noticed talk about getting to Bilbao08:22
valorieI'm planning to take the bus from Madrid08:22
valorieanyone else going to Madrid first?08:22
shadeslayerwhat's in Madrid?08:22
apacheloggera bus station :P08:23
valoriethe Prado!08:24
valorieand a big airport, which is why I'll be there first08:24
valorieshould be hotter than the hubs of hell08:24
valorieBilbao will be nicer08:25
yofelseems like I can fly from stuttgart to bilbao directly08:26
eoshi vHanda .... do you mind a couple of questions? we have a long hanging at start on a production machine due to nepomukservices apparently .... we are talking about mayve 300 sec. 64 bit, kernel 3.5, kde 4.10.2, distribution kubuntu 12.10. Fairly stable. 08:27
vHandaeos: shoot08:27
yofelshadeslayer: where did you book the accomodation? I still need to do that08:28
vHanda12.10 = which kde version?08:28
eosvHanda: we do not understand where this hang up comes from. when the machine is shut down with no new files, the hang up happens all the same.08:28
vHandayofel: shadeslayer: Aren't KDE e.V booking that?08:28
eosvHanda: it seems the indexeer is trying to index something that is not there.08:28
yofelvHanda: I don't get sponsored, so I probably need to take care about that myself?08:28
vHandaprobably :)08:29
vHandaeos: I'll need to know which KDE version you're running08:29
yofelon that topic08:29
shadeslayeryofel: it's Blas de Ottero ( or something like that )08:29
vHandaalso which process is the blocking one (the full process name, not just the executable name)08:29
eosvHanda: yes, I put it in my orignal message. 08:29
eosvHanda: 64 bit, kernel 3.5, kde 4.10.2, distribution kubuntu 12.10. Fairly stable. 08:29
shadeslayeryofel: http://akademy2013.kde.org/accommodation08:30
vHandasorry. Okay. now I'm interested since it's 10.208:30
* apachelogger should look into travel organization tomorrow -.-08:30
yofelRiddell: any chance I could bill kubuntu at least for my flight costs? (some ~230€ from what I see)08:31
vHandaeos: lets take this over to #nepomuk-kde ?08:31
eosvHanda: ok!08:32
apacheloggerthere is a bug!08:36
starbuck1ping Riddell08:50
starbuck1I can confirm with the latest beta2, the installer bug "the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCSI2 (0,0,0) partition #5 (sda) at none failed" is there08:52
shadeslayerRiddell: yofel do you guys have idea why user-manager is not in the seeds?08:52
yofelshadeslayer: not an adequate replacement for userconfig IMO08:53
shadeslayerI see08:53
shadeslayerafiestas_: ^^08:53
yofelmost notably: you cannot manage groups08:53
yofeland I don't want to replace userconfig with user-manager+kuser08:54
shadeslayerI don't think user-manager was ever targetted towards managing groups08:54
apacheloggeryofel: is userconfig working?08:54
yofelwell, how do you manage them? and don't dare to say CLI08:54
shadeslayerthe entire point of user-manager was to be able to manager users in a very simple way08:54
yofelapachelogger: yes08:54
shadeslayerif you're managing groups, use userconfig/kuser08:55
apacheloggeryou do not manage user groups08:55
apacheloggeryou manage users08:55
apacheloggerwho can be admin or user08:55
yofelsure, but you need to be able to add a user to a group08:55
apacheloggerend of story :P08:55
yofelthat's REALITY08:55
apacheloggerno you don't08:55
apacheloggeryou need to be able to make a user admin08:55
apacheloggerany other use case is some obscure geek crap08:55
* apachelogger breaks grub208:56
valorie"obscure geek crap"?08:57
smartboyhwUDS-1305 got announced.08:57
valoriedon't you mean LINUX?08:57
shadeslayersmartboyhw: surely you mean vUDS08:57
valorieI'm sorry, I mean GNU/Linux08:58
apacheloggerreal geeks don't use linux anymore08:58
apacheloggerit's gotten too mainstream08:58
apacheloggernowadays we cool kids use some bsd08:58
apacheloggeralas, my laptop is not booting with bsd anymore :(08:58
apacheloggerI broke something08:58
shadeslayerheh, I've been meaning to try out bsd08:58
Riddellhi starbuck1 09:00
Riddellstarbuck1: it's the same bug you pointed to yesterday?09:01
valorieI remember my son bemoaning how easy linux was getting to be09:01
smartboyhwshadeslayer: Yep.09:01
valorieit's like some obscure band which makes it big09:01
valoriethe old fans bemoan the good old days09:01
valoriewhen the band was THEIRS09:02
Riddellyofel: coming to akademy?09:02
yofelRiddell: yep09:02
lordievadersmartboyhw: The people with Skype problems in Raring are suffering from bug 1155327.09:02
ubottubug 1155327 in skype (Ubuntu Raring) "skype crashed with SIGSEGV in malloc@plt()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115532709:02
* yofel doesn't bemoan the good old days. groups are simply a part of linux permission management09:03
Riddellyofel: great, I'd be all for kubuntu paying for useful people's travel, that'll need to be proposed to the council09:03
yofeland unless we have a sane ACL implementation that won't change much09:03
yofelRiddell: true, I'll write up a mail once I get to it09:04
apacheloggeryofel: we have that, it changes nothing09:05
smartboyhwlordievader: Not good:(09:06
apacheloggergroups are a big part of any permission management09:06
apacheloggerthat does not mean they need to be managed by users09:06
lordievadersmartboyhw: Yofel found a fix though, install Quantal's version of qtwebkit... :(09:06
yofelthat's not a fix...09:06
lordievaderWorkaround then ;)09:07
yofelanother thing would be to LD_PRELOAD mesa's libgl it seems09:07
apacheloggera tool needs not necessarily be used by users *and* sysadmins09:07
yofelwhich is freaky09:07
apacheloggerin particular user management is something where you can have a simple tool for your actually common tasks like making someone admin so they can install new games or something09:07
apacheloggerand at the same time a  sysadmin tool that can manage ldap and stuff09:08
yofelok, so what do we do? use user-manager, remove user part of userconfig and rename it to group-manager?09:09
apacheloggeruserconfig is unmaintained09:09
apacheloggerwe'd have user-manager and we'd have kuser09:09
yofelthen make a replacement. I just consider not being able to manage groups a regression (and no, I don't count konsole as a UI)09:10
apacheloggeruserconfig is a crap tool compared to kuser09:10
apacheloggerldap support is a must-have for sysadmin user maangement09:11
yofelapachelogger making sense feels weird09:12
smartboyhwyofel: Why?09:12
yofeljust talking rubbish09:12
apacheloggeryofel: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/04/09/plasma-desktopYG2215.png09:12
apacheloggerregarding ACL btw09:12
apacheloggerno clue why ext doesn't enable it by default09:13
afiestas_well, we could hve dicussed this when we brought the topic in the mailist09:14
afiestas_(and it seemed that everybody agreed on user manager) or in UDS09:14
apachelogger[ubuntu/raring-proposed] grub2 2.00-13ubuntu3 (Accepted)09:15
apacheloggerthis is going to be fun09:15
yofelapachelogger: so what would be your plan, add user-manager and kuser instead of userconfig?09:15
apacheloggerno kuser09:16
apacheloggerwhy would you put kuser on the seed?09:17
yofelI'm currently trying to decide whether it's the intended procedure to have someone read the KDE admin manual to find out how to manage groups09:18
yofelotherwise people will never know about kuser09:18
yofelit doesn't feel very constistent to have dolphin manage group permissions, but not being able to manage those groups anywhere09:19
apacheloggerwhat's a use case?09:20
Riddellhaving a folder which is shared between several users?09:26
yofelwas thinking about that, but you can do that in other ways too09:27
Riddellfor home users I'd imagine the main use case is adding and deleting users09:27
yofelunless it really needs to be restricted to a specific group - which you would probably never do on a standalone system09:27
yofelapachelogger: I fear I stand beaten - except for the case of some retarded system service that needs a user in a specific group so it works09:29
apacheloggeryofel: those services should then add it via postinst09:43
yofelapachelogger: just looked up the original discussion on the ML. We did talk about groups, but I can't see an actual decision on what to do09:55
* yofel -> lunch09:56
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 1164854 got screenshots now10:16
ubottubug 1164854 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] Kubuntu Boot Artwork Update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116485410:16
lordievaderLooks good apachelogger :D10:20
Riddellapachelogger: does that align with the lightdm/ksplash/plasma themes10:28
shadeslayerit's better than the gray stuff we currently have ;P10:30
Riddellwhat potential bugs could come from updating this?10:32
* Riddell nudges apachelogger ⇈10:39
apacheloggerRiddell: doesn't align as we won't change the ones you mentioned, though the new boot artwork is pretty neutral colorwise so it will be less of a color clash than what we have now10:46
apacheloggerpotential bugs: broken plymouth splash10:47
apacheloggerwhoops, disconnected10:49
apacheloggerRiddell: did you get my reply?10:49
Riddellapachelogger: yep10:49
Riddellapachelogger: is there a text only theme for plymouth?10:49
apacheloggerah yes10:50
apacheloggerforgot to snapshot that10:50
apacheloggerbasically just black background with white colors for the rest10:50
apacheloggereh, black background, white name, blue dots (i.e. like the 16bit one)10:51
* apachelogger needs to pitch about-distro to some other distros10:52
apacheloggeragateau_: I am wondering about perhaps allowing the about-distro config to overload the distro name11:07
apacheloggere.g. kubuntu-settings-desktop would override Ubuntu to Kubuntu; kubuntu-settings-active would overrride Kubuntu to Kubuntu Active11:07
apacheloggersuch that you could establish product branding ontop of the same platform11:08
Riddellpopey: would it be snobby to suggest we only allow users who know their own e-mail address?11:14
Riddellapachelogger: override /etc/lsb-release ?11:14
apacheloggerRiddell: yes11:16
BluesKajHiyas all11:18
Riddellapachelogger: how would it know where to look for the override?11:18
apacheloggerRiddell: it'd be config based11:18
apacheloggerso regular settings cascade11:19
apacheloggerkubuntu-settings-active has its own kcm-about-distrorc with Name=Kubuntu Active11:19
apacheloggerkubuntu-settings-desktop has a kcm-about-distrorc with Name=Kubuntu11:19
apacheloggerlinux-mint-settings has kcm-about-distro with Name=Linux Mint KDE or something11:20
Riddellapachelogger: that could work11:20
apacheloggerin a UI context that would nicely do away with the paltform vs. product problem of LSB11:20
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Riddellapachelogger: bug 1164854 approved!11:23
ubottubug 1164854 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "[UIFE] Kubuntu Boot Artwork Update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116485411:23
smartboyhwapachelogger, what happened?:)11:24
smartboyhwHmm digiKam 3.2.0-beta1 is out.11:24
smartboyhwShould we package it into Raring? (Probably not an good idea now)11:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: too late for beta things11:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: now calligra on the other hand...11:25
smartboyhwRiddell, yep:)11:25
smartboyhwRiddell, damn let me download:P11:25
* smartboyhw packages calligra NOW11:25
* apachelogger yawns NOW11:26
Riddellthanks :)11:26
smartboyhwapachelogger, lOL11:26
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm how do I receive updates for new calligra packaging? Seems no way to know:P11:27
popeyRiddell: +111:27
Riddellsmartboyhw: they're posted to the top secret kde-packager list11:28
smartboyhwRiddell, grrr:P11:28
Riddellsmartboyhw: I think that needs a bug filed on b.k.o for sysadmin to subscribe you11:28
smartboyhwRiddell, b.k.o?11:28
Riddellsmartboyhw: file one and I'll back you up11:28
smartboyhwRiddell, :)11:28
apacheloggerRiddell: bug 115728011:31
ubottubug 1157280 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu) "print-manager plasmoid not applied on update" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115728011:32
smartboyhwRiddell, some strange things though. (Like Reproducibility or that:P)11:32
smartboyhwRiddell, what should I set for severity?11:33
Riddellapachelogger: hmm, I did that :(11:34
Riddellsmartboyhw: just put junk in there11:34
smartboyhwRiddell, did:P11:34
smartboyhwRiddell, severity = ?11:34
Riddellapachelogger: do you have /usr/share/kde4/apps/plasma-desktop/updates/02-add-print-manager.js ?11:35
Riddellsmartboyhw: as high as you dare11:35
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't dare more than normal:P11:35
smartboyhwRiddell, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31808311:36
ubottuError: Error getting KDE bug #318083: NotPermitted11:36
yofelsysadmin requests are private11:36
smartboyhwyofel, ah.11:36
apacheloggerRiddell: hm11:36
yofelsmartboyhw: added a todo for calligra somewhere?11:36
yofeljust so we know who's working on it11:36
smartboyhwyofel, probably not. Trello board editing now:P11:37
apacheloggerRiddell: ah yes11:37
apacheloggerRiddell: works now11:37
yofeldo we really need to use trello for that...11:37
* apachelogger manages Riddell's trello cards now :O11:37
smartboyhwapachelogger, :O11:38
smartboyhwyofel, erm anyway no problems I think11:38
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yofelwell, no, it's just that we now have like 3 locations where we track packaging todo's11:39
* davmor2 wonders where the maniacal laughter is coming from, oh apachelogger has his mic on again :D11:39
smartboyhwyofel, we *should* make it centralized.11:40
yofelsmartboyhw: there's a tradeoff between centralized, managable and consistency. We'll need to talk about that at Akademy11:41
apacheloggeryofel: not a problem as long as they are all tracked on trello11:42
apacheloggerjust slab the links on the description11:42
yofelthen put a link on the ninja pad that points people to the board in trello that they should look at11:43
Riddellwhen should trello be used and when a bug is an issue11:45
RiddellI have a todo item to sort out bugs needed for release11:46
Riddellbut I'm not sure if they should go on trello or what11:46
Riddellshouldn't be a big issue, trello is just work items but slicker11:47
apacheloggerIMO use trello whenver you have an work item that is not a bug *or* when you have a bug that needs fixing on multiple levels (or needs multiple steps to fix  in general) *or* you have an issue/bug that is of general interest to the team at large11:53
apacheloggerglorified team todo11:53
apacheloggerhaving a bug and a trello card is unavoidable at times though ... e.g. getting plymouth artwork changed required the team to make the changes and then the formal process of getting a freeze exception11:55
apacheloggerso I suppose on a general note things that need formal documentation ought to go into bugs; that does however not mean that there cannot be a trello card as well11:56
yofelright, it makes perfect sense when you have multiple steps that you can define in advance11:56
apachelogger(bugs are technically not meant to be used as a means to trakc work items :))11:56
yofelthey work pretty well though for package requests11:57
apacheloggeryofel: mh, it's a matter of scaling really11:57
apacheloggeryou can have a big card with many steps11:58
apacheloggeror many tiny cards11:58
apacheloggeror many boards with many cards11:58
yofelhow do you draw the line there?11:58
apacheloggeryou don't need to? :P11:58
apacheloggerwhatever works best...11:58
yofelfor 4.10.2 I found the trello card to be pretty useless11:58
apacheloggere.g. if you wanted to track release packaging you could do that in a board11:59
apacheloggerfor columns you'd have the discrete state of a package11:59
apacheloggerneeds-upload; needs-building; built; needs-testing; whathaveyou...11:59
apacheloggeryou then move the cards (packages) from state to state12:00
apacheloggeronce all arrived in the good-to-publish column you are done12:00
Riddellktp has stopped connecting to facebook and gtalk for me, should I be worried?12:00
apacheloggerRiddell: probably shadeslayer broke it? :P12:00
yofelgtalk works here, but took a while to connect12:00
shadeslayerworks fine for me12:00
smartboyhwapachelogger, :P12:00
shadeslayerapachelogger broke it by releasing phonon12:01
apacheloggerit's funny because I didn't12:01
apacheloggeralso it's sad because I didn't12:01
Riddellshadeslayer: kde-telepathy is onlt 0.5.80?12:02
apacheloggeralso breaking kde4libs now12:02
yofelapachelogger: that in itself makes sense, but esp. for packaging I would like to have things where all people with permission to change a package can find the TODO12:02
shadeslayerRiddell: the meta package wasn't updated, I don't think it's required to update that12:02
yofeland ubuntu's de-facto standard for that are bugs right now12:02
yofelthe todo items are primarily meant for notes and to prevent duplicate work12:02
Riddellshadeslayer: it means if I want to get the latest kde-telepathy by installing kde-telepathy it doesn't update12:03
apacheloggeryofel: as I said whatever works best12:03
apacheloggere.g. needs-packaging should not go to trello IMO12:03
shadeslayerRiddell: whut? the meta package depends on >= 0.5.8012:04
apacheloggernot only anyway12:04
yofelwe need a page that explains what to use when and where to find it 12:04
yofeltodo for akademy12:04
apacheloggerfirst we ought to discuss whether we are going to continue using trello :P12:04
apacheloggerseeing as I am the only one using it excessively anyway :P12:05
Riddellit's a question of whether it's good enough to replace work items12:05
Riddelldoes it scale well to the number of WIs we have?12:05
yofelhey, I use it too, and shadeslayer I believe12:05
smartboyhwapachelogger, em we just used it for 1 or 2 months I think12:05
shadeslayerI use it as well12:05
apacheloggeryofel: not as much as me :P12:06
Riddelloh and will other ubuntu teams get confused/annoyed by us not using the work items they're used to12:06
apachelogger<- quite the fanboy12:06
apacheloggerRiddell: WIs are broken, not our fault :P12:06
Riddelland it means we won't get pretty graphs of work items, but then do we care?12:06
apacheloggerRiddell: regarding scaling though ... it really only depends on how we approach it12:06
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't:P12:06
yofelIMO they're more flexible than blueprints. And ubuntu's todo item burndown page is just broken12:06
smartboyhwyofel, why!/12:06
apacheloggerRiddell: e.g. stuffing all the crap into one board is likely not going to be successful12:07
yofelsmartboyhw: broken? I would like a page that doesn't have broken links all over the page12:07
smartboyhwyofel, hmm..12:07
yofelmaybe they improved it, but my last impression of it was pretty much a static page12:07
yofelmight as well make it a picture12:07
smartboyhwyofel, try the current one.12:08
apacheloggerRiddell: so I believe what was a blueprint ought to be a board in trello, so per board you have some 10-20 work items which is stil fine12:08
smartboyhwIt does update for us.12:08
yofelsmartboyhw: got a link? forgot where it was12:08
smartboyhwstatus.ubuntu.com yofel12:08
shadeslayerRiddell: uploaded meta-kde-telepathy12:08
shadeslayerneeds approval probably12:08
apacheloggerRiddell: another approach would be to replace a blueprint with a meta-card ... i.e. a card with a checklist of subitems, then whenver someone starts working on an item they tick it in the metacard and create a new card for that item12:09
apacheloggercreation on-demand one coudl call that ^^12:09
* apachelogger likes the multi-board approach better though12:09
yofelsmartboyhw: for example: you have a work item related to studio and wubi. But if I click on your name there I end up on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+specs?role=assignee12:09
yofelthat's obviously the wrong query12:09
apacheloggeryofel: they are much more borken than that12:10
smartboyhwyofel, you said "You want to find a page that doesn't have broken links er well the main page isn't:P12:11
yofelok, they seem to have fixed most of the rest of the page12:11
apacheloggerhard to edt if there are loads of items12:11
apacheloggerhard to find an item12:11
apacheloggercannot comment on an item12:11
apacheloggercannot use arbitrary states for an item12:11
yofel"cannot comment on an item" - THAT is true12:11
apacheloggercannot have properly assign more than one person12:12
apacheloggerno history on items12:12
yofelcan't you have the same workitem twice? with different assignees12:12
apacheloggercan't tag items (Such that I could go show-me-all-programming-stuffz)12:12
Mirvshadeslayer: lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtcreator-qt4 compiled at ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-staging has now something that at least starts12:12
apacheloggeryofel: yes12:12
apacheloggeryofel: now say you need to change that item12:12
apacheloggerwhat will you have to do? :P12:13
smartboyhwadd oil on criticizing:P12:13
yofelgo into an editing frenzy :P12:13
apacheloggersay you have 4 assignees or more12:13
smartboyhwHmm calligra went here already.12:13
Mirvand probably works as well, no reason not to. conflicts with normal qtcreator since it's not co-installable.12:13
smartboyhwhere = my computer:P12:14
shadeslayerwill test later12:16
smartboyhwRiddell, do comment for me on the KDE sysadmin bug:)12:17
* apachelogger looks at shadeslayer12:21
shadeslayerRiddell: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-2207874612:21
Riddellsmartboyhw: turns out I'm not elite enough to see it12:22
Riddellsmartboyhw: but they'll come to me anyway if you said it's for kubuntu12:22
apacheloggersmartboyhw needs ot sub your bko address12:22
apacheloggeror mine12:22
Riddellshadeslayer: about as ironic as IBM complaining about MS's monopoly12:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: 12:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: 12:24
shadeslayerRiddell: yeah :P12:24
shadeslayerapachelogger: what is it?12:25
apacheloggerI forgot!12:25
apacheloggerit was something hawt12:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: 12:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: you totally want to blog about our cool new boot artwork, don't you?12:26
apacheloggermust I do everything myself...12:27
Riddellapachelogger: I can, I need more +ve things on my blog12:27
Riddellapachelogger: is it in yet?12:27
apacheloggerRiddell: got an accepted mail anyway12:27
apacheloggerRiddell: accepted into proposed and built12:28
* apachelogger needs to prep debiancd and poke cj and fix rekonq and fix lightdm and fix screenlocking -.-12:29
apacheloggeractually looking may be fixed in .2 I reckon12:29
kubotuapachelogger meant: "actually locking may be fixed in .2 I reckon"12:29
yofeldepends how you define "fixed"12:31
yofelor what was the broken part again?12:32
yofel(except having a password field when it's not actually locked)12:32
apacheloggerRiddell: ah, if you want you can also mention low-fat ugrades ... along with improvements inside kde software itself low-fat can now reduce memory consumption by up to 60%12:36
apacheloggerdown from 37012:36
apacheloggers/upgrades/updates even12:36
=== greyback|lunch is now known as greyback
apacheloggeryofel: not locking at all12:37
apacheloggerneed to go afk to test :P12:37
yofellocks when I tell it to lock and when I suspend12:37
Riddellmck182: has libkfacebook disappeared from akonadi-facebook?12:37
yofelbut I think I never noticed it being broken in the first place12:37
yofel(or misunderstood what the issue is)12:38
mck182Riddell: yeah, long time ago :)12:38
yofeloh wait, I think I remembered12:38
mck182that whole thing is now deprecated12:38
Riddellmck182: deprecated but still needed separately for 4.10?12:38
mck182Riddell: yeah, but fwiw kubuntu is the only distro actually shipping it12:38
mck182(and netrunner)12:39
Riddellmck182: do we still want to ship it?12:39
RiddellI expect Mint KDE ships it too :)12:39
mck182Riddell: it's not much usefull atm, plus you'll have to deal with kdepim 4.11 which will introduce conflicts I guess12:39
mck182but I don't think that will be a big problem ;)12:40
Riddellmck182: the current snapshot we have is 20120712, do we want to update that?12:40
mck182that snapshot still require libkfacebook right?12:40
Riddellmck182: yes12:40
mck182Riddell: well, you can upgrade it, yes, it will just require libkfbapi12:41
mck182which is in extragear12:41
apacheloggeryofel: it doesn't lock on afk12:42
apacheloggerthe lock screen is there12:42
apacheloggerbut it simply goes away on activity12:42
yofeljust tried it. If I enable "require password after X seconds", it locks. If that's disabled it won't *lock* but display the password screen12:42
mck182Riddell: libkfbapi is libkfacebook 2.0, many many improvements and fixes12:43
mck182actually I think I should probably release it12:43
yofelso it does lock if you tell it to lock12:43
apacheloggeryofel: 1. wtf 2. wtf 3. wtf 4. wtf 5. why is it not enabled by default?12:43
yofeldunno what the default is, lemme fire up a live disk12:43
apacheloggerwhat exactly is the point of displaying a *lock* screen without being locked12:43
yofelwell, that's the broken part. Still there in .212:44
apacheloggerso silly12:45
yofelwow, rendering is utterly broken in qemu12:47
apacheloggerit's the weird defautl driver12:48
apacheloggerif you tell qemu to use another one it works better for me12:48
yofelmaybe just the new mesa from x-staging12:48
yofelneed to test that again later12:49
apacheloggernah the qemu driver emulation is crap for whatever it uses by default, messing up resolution hinting to the guest or something12:49
apacheloggerso the guest renders at 800x600 or something while the window is 1280 or whatever12:50
yofelI mean this level of broken: http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/kvm_live.png12:50
yofelbut here's the locker defaults http://people.ubuntu.com/~yofel/pics/locker_setting.png12:50
yofelbroken too12:50
apacheloggerok that is excessively broken12:51
apacheloggerthose 15 minutes are also fun12:51
apacheloggerso I am thinking 5 minutes + 10 (maybe 15) seconds until lock12:52
smartboyhwRiddell, apachelogger I will subscribe BOTH:P12:56
smartboyhwapachelogger, done for you.12:57
smartboyhwNot sure which address for Riddell though.12:57
=== schmidtm__ is now known as schmidtm_
smartboyhwRiddell, ok13:02
smartboyhwRiddell, done13:02
smartboyhwRiddell, thanks:)13:03
smartboyhw-- The following OPTIONAL packages could NOT be located on your system.13:10
smartboyhw-- Consider installing them to enable more features from this software.13:10
smartboyhw   * OCIO  <http://www.opencolorio.org>13:10
smartboyhw     The OpenColorIO Library13:10
smartboyhw     Required by the Krita LUT docker13:10
smartboyhwHmm do we have that in our packaging!?13:11
smartboyhwTurns out: There are PPAs but not the official one.13:12
smartboyhws/official one/official archive/13:13
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "Turns out: There are PPAs but not the official archive."13:13
smartboyhwRiddell, too late to get it in official repos right?13:13
apacheloggerreviewboard started working again, so magic13:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/109927/13:27
apacheloggerah right13:31
apachelogger2 empty lines between functions13:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: I remember why I liked rekonq so much13:32
* BluesKaj finds it difficult to like rekonq ..must be joking :)13:35
smartboyhwBluesKaj, :)13:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: #include <krecentdirs.h>13:36
shadeslayerpretty headers?13:36
apacheloggerdoesn't have one13:37
shadeslayeroh okay13:37
apacheloggerit's super internal spooky shit13:37
shadeslayerfix it?13:37
smartboyhwDAMN IT13:40
apacheloggerif reviewboard wasn't so slow -.-13:40
* smartboyhw has to add another package and re-upload the whole calligra-l10n13:40
* apachelogger is suer hungry13:40
apacheloggeromnomnom suer13:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: you broke reviewboard again -.-13:41
shadeslayerI most certainly did not13:41
apacheloggerwhy is it not doing no nothing then13:41
shadeslayerit doesn't like you13:42
apacheloggerwhy that would be outragous13:42
apacheloggerapparently one is nonly allowed to submit one review per day13:42
apacheloggervery nice13:42
* apachelogger gives up13:43
apacheloggerin case anyone cares for a working rekonq13:43
* apachelogger out13:43
Riddellsmartboyhw: it would need a good excuse13:44
smartboyhwRiddell, I need an FFe for this I think13:45
smartboyhwNew turkish translation.13:45
smartboyhwNo need for UIFe though (I think)13:45
Riddellsmartboyhw: for the new calligra version?  it's just bugfix no?13:45
smartboyhwRiddell, new
smartboyhwI didn't upload for 2.6.2 because the cavalencia translations went MIA and it needed a fix...13:46
smartboyhwAnd now we already got
yofelso calligra-l10n needs a ffe?13:46
smartboyhwyofel, yeah:(13:46
* smartboyhw hates filing FFeS.....13:46
yofelbecause of a new package?13:46
smartboyhwyofel, because of a new translation yes.13:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: new translations aren't a feature13:47
smartboyhwRiddell, uh!?13:47
yofelRiddell: it would be if it needs to pass binary NEW13:48
smartboyhwyofel, yep.13:48
yofelthat's what I think he means at least13:48
Riddellhmm well I'd just approve it13:50
smartboyhwRiddell, dget -x https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/2buntu/+files/calligra-l10n_2.6.3-0ubuntu1.dsc (finally I don't have to file a bug and attach each orig.tar.bz2 to the bug, phew, I have been stupid before three times)13:51
yofelI'll upload, then Riddell can approve13:52
yofelsmartboyhw: how's calligra itself doing?13:52
smartboyhwyofel, building to see what will happen to dh_install --list-missing13:53
smartboyhwSo I can add back the files!!!13:53
Riddellsmartboyhw: add back what files?13:53
smartboyhwRiddell, some files that are new but didn't get into the .install files.13:54
smartboyhwI need to check.13:55
smartboyhwBuilding at 72%.13:56
* smartboyhw really likes -j413:56
ovidiu-florinquestion. I've found this bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317387 and it does not manifest if I build kmail from source, but it manifests on the kmail installed by default in kubuntu. why is that, and how can I fix it?13:59
ubottuKDE bug 317387 in general "On reply, if the Name of an identity contains something in parentheses the content in parentheses does not apear in the from field." [Normal,Unconfirmed]13:59
smartboyhwovidiu-florin, do you build from master or?13:59
ovidiu-florinyes, master13:59
smartboyhwovidiu-florin, may not be as the same version as in Kubuntu.......14:00
yofelovidiu-florin: can you please try to build the KDE/4.10 branch?14:00
ovidiu-florinI'll try again14:00
yofelthat's essentially what we have, so that should tell whether it's our fault or not14:00
yofelwhich reminds me that we need to import that completion patch14:01
smartboyhwyofel, that dget -x message should be targetted at you instead now (since you are uploading instead of Riddell )14:02
yofelI know14:02
yofelsmartboyhw: changelog is incomplete http://paste.kde.org/71997214:04
yofelif you add a -tr package, please do say so14:04
smartboyhwyofel, um I need to re-upload then (again) :(14:04
smartboyhwThird time.14:04
* smartboyhw is running out of PPAs to use.14:05
yofeljust stuff it on people.ubuntu.com then14:05
smartboyhwyofel, never used it.... Will need some time.14:07
yofelsmartboyhw: what for? all you need is sftp and your ssh key that's on launchpad14:08
smartboyhwyofel, I know.14:08
smartboyhwWill need some time to upload:P14:08
yofelah :D14:08
smartboyhwyofel, can we dput into people.ubuntu.com? (LOL)14:09
Riddellsmartboyhw: not it's sftp access14:09
smartboyhwRiddell, that's why it's extremely sad14:09
Riddelldolphin does it nicely14:10
smartboyhwWhoa look at http://people.ubuntu.com/~unit193/pisg/kubuntu.html14:10
Riddellsmartboyhw: yofel doesn't need the binaries14:10
smartboyhwBluesKaj, you king.14:10
yofelhum, dput does support sftp... so feel free to try to figure it out14:10
smartboyhwRiddell, anyway: Maybe I just change the kubuntu-packaging branch? (/me hasn't uploaded to it yet.)14:10
yofeldrat, I'm ranked lower than ubottu :'(14:11
smartboyhwyofel, LOL14:11
smartboyhwyofel, would you be unhappy if I just add that + tr translation line to the kubuntu-packaging calligra branch?14:14
yofelsmartboyhw: no14:14
smartboyhwyofel, oh well :)14:15
yofelsmartboyhw: wait, calligra-l10n has no branch14:16
yofelI'll just add it14:16
smartboyhwyofel, :O14:16
smartboyhwAnalyzing the --list-missing thing14:23
smartboyhwQuite clean.14:24
smartboyhwOnly some needs to be added.14:24
agateau_apachelogger: sorry was away, overloading distro name makes sense to me14:25
smartboyhwOnly 4!14:25
smartboyhwMore ;O given.14:25
smartboyhwVery easy this time it seems.14:25
smartboyhwyofel, dget -x http://people.ubuntu.com/~smartboyhw/calligra-l10n_2.6.3-0ubuntu1.dsc (hopefully it does pull all the files)14:26
yofelsmartboyhw: worked14:28
smartboyhwyofel, \o/14:28
smartboyhw-queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: calligra-l10n (raring-proposed/universe) [1:2.6.1-0ubuntu1 => 1:2.6.3-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)14:28
smartboyhwUh why is it in ubuntu-desktop?:)14:29
Riddellthey're secret calligra fans14:29
smartboyhwThat's awesome!14:29
Riddellnote: may be untrue14:29
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL14:29
RiddellMirv: quite some missing symbols http://paste.kde.org/719978/14:32
RiddellMirv: but would missing symbols really cause a crash in skype that could be worked out with pre-loading libGL?14:33
smartboyhwMore happily: All of the 4 files come from calligraplan.14:34
ovidiu-florinwho did you say was in charge of telepathy?14:45
ovidiu-florinshould I ask about that here or in #kde or #kde-vevel14:45
Riddellovidiu-florin: depends what you mean by incharge?14:45
Riddellthe packaging14:45
Riddellthe kde coding14:46
Riddellactual telepathy coding14:46
ovidiu-florinso #kde-devel14:46
Riddelld_ed is a useful sort on #k-d14:46
Riddelld_ed is a useful sort on #kde-devel14:48
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't understand you do you mean by "is a useful sort"14:49
Riddellsmartboyhw: he is a useful person when it comes to telepathy issues14:50
ovidiu-florinthank you14:51
ovidiu-florinsmartboyhw: thank you14:53
smartboyhwovidiu-florin, don't thank me. Thank Riddell.14:53
ovidiu-florinthe first thanks is for Riddell14:53
ovidiu-florinthe second one if for helping me undestanf what Riddell sayd14:54
Riddellmck182: libkfbapi misses a cmake check for libboost14:54
lordievaderGood afternoon14:56
smartboyhwHello lordievader 14:57
shadeslayerxnox: someone just informed me that the Kubuntu ISO wipes out the efi partition15:01
shadeslayerwhereas the Ubuntu ISO does not15:01
xnoxshadeslayer: fun. well please collect logs and file a bug =)15:02
lordievaderHey smartboyhw, how are you doing?15:03
shadeslayerI've asked the person to do that15:03
smartboyhwlordievader, :)15:03
mck182Riddell: boost? it does not use boost asaik15:03
* smartboyhw is uploading calligra 2.6.3 to PPA.15:04
Riddellmck182: obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/libkfbapi/CMakeFiles/kfbapi.dir/CXX.includecache:boost/shared_ptr.hpp15:04
Riddellmck182: something is generated which does15:04
Riddellmck182: also qjson could do with one15:04
mck182qjson probably might, yeah15:04
smartboyhwRiddell, hmm would an update of icecc from 0.9.8 to 1.0.0 need an FFe (just asking)15:08
Riddellsmartboyhw: depends if it has new features15:09
smartboyhwRiddell, biggest one: out-of-the-box support for Clang.15:09
ovidiu-florincan I ask here? I'm trying to build kdepim. ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in....15:11
ovidiu-florinwhat am I missing?15:12
Riddellovidiu-florin: kdelibs5-dev15:12
ovidiu-florinokm thank you15:12
smartboyhwRiddell, does it need an FFe then?15:24
Riddellsmartboyhw: yep15:24
smartboyhwRiddell, OK....., grr:(15:24
Riddellsmartboyhw: and it won't get one unless there's a good reason15:25
smartboyhwRiddell, which that OOBE thing is one:P15:25
Riddellsmartboyhw: pardon?15:25
smartboyhwRiddell, which the out-of-the-box feature needs an FFe....15:26
smartboyhwThe good reason15:26
Riddelloh clang, can't say I've felt that as being a must have feature for 13.0415:26
Riddellmck182: this a good description?15:27
Riddell LibKFBAPI (previously called LibKFacebook) is a C++ library that implements APIs15:27
Riddell for various Facebook services.15:27
smartboyhwRiddell, well I don't think that will be an issue if we update it.15:27
mck182Riddell: perfect :) oh and the lib name is LibKFbAPI (non-capital b)15:27
smartboyhwRiddell, dget -x https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+archive/ppa/+files/calligra_2.6.3-0ubuntu1.dsc and review. Tell me if I got anything wrong please;)15:28
smartboyhwClearly, I don't like this: https://launchpad.net/~smartboyhw/+participation15:39
Riddellsmartboyhw: +usr/lib/kde4/planconvert/PlanConvert.jar15:40
smartboyhwRiddell, what's the problem?15:40
* smartboyhw thought it is OK since it is not in debian/not-installed15:40
Riddellcalligra has started shipping java binary blobs :(15:41
smartboyhwRiddell, um yep.......15:41
Riddelljava binary blobs make baby buddha cry15:42
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL15:42
yofeltranslated: they're not dfsg compliant ^^15:43
smartboyhwyofel, +115:43
Riddellsmartboyhw: presumably you have java installed?15:44
Riddellelse it doesn't get installed15:44
smartboyhwRiddell, eek clearly I forgotten to do a build-dep on that15:44
Riddellyou don't want to!15:45
smartboyhwRiddell, I thought most Ubuntu distros have openjdk on it15:45
smartboyhwBut I use pure Oracle JDK 815:45
Riddellwell good you spotted this, it's an upstream issue15:45
yofelsmartboyhw: the point is not to use java at all here15:45
smartboyhwyofel, yes I agree15:45
yofelsmartboyhw: at least not while the jar isn't built at runtime - or is it?15:45
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel I will post in the Calligra mailing list to complain15:46
smartboyhwyofel, um lemme check.15:46
Riddellsmartboyhw: point out (politely) it's against KDE's licence policy15:46
Riddellyofel, smartboyhw: there's no source15:46
smartboyhwRiddell, yep15:46
agateau_just curious, what are they using java for?15:46
smartboyhwRiddell, I will:)15:46
smartboyhwagateau_, some sort of things in Calligraplan15:46
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm hang on15:47
smartboyhwRiddell, oh?15:48
smartboyhwDon't tell me it IS compiled...15:48
Riddell+PlanConverts classes is generated from the plan.dtd file using the script: generatedtdclasses15:48
* shadeslayer waves fist at launchpad15:49
* yofel passes shadeslayer a cup of coffee15:49
smartboyhwAnd anyway if anyone wants build logs, the builds at my PPA are starting within 13 min for i386 and 24 for amd6415:49
smartboyhwshadeslayer, what happened!?15:49
shadeslayercurl: (35) Unknown SSL protocol error in connection to launchpadlibrarian.net:443 15:50
Riddellsmartboyhw: it does seem to have everything there so I guess it's dfsg and kde licence happy15:55
Riddellsmartboyhw: but we don't install java by default so I'll undo your changes15:55
smartboyhwRiddell, OK:)15:56
Riddellshadeslayer, Quintasan: I can't connect to facebook or gtalk with telepathy, should I be worried?16:06
Riddellshadeslayer, Quintasan: the configure dialogue is taller than my monitor16:06
shadeslayerto the debug mobile!16:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer, :)16:07
shadeslayerRiddell: http://community.kde.org/KTp/FAQ#Providing_debug16:09
Riddellshadeslayer: presumably you can connect?16:15
shadeslayerfacebook yes, I haven't added google16:15
shadeslayerbecause I need to generate an application password for that and I'm too lazy to do that :P16:15
shadeslayer09/04/13 17:12:39.716721 - [gabble/tls] gabble_tls_certificate_reject (tls-certificate.c:294): Reject() called on the TLS certificate with rejections 0x1552e80, length 0; current state 016:16
Riddellisn't it just your normal google login?16:16
shadeslayerI have 2 step auth16:16
ovidiu-florinwhat package provides the boost libraries?16:16
ovidiu-florinI found a lot of them16:16
shadeslayerso I have to generate a separate app specific password16:16
shadeslayerovidiu-florin: for raring it's 1.4916:16
ovidiu-florinI've installed libboost-dev16:17
ovidiu-florinwhich installed libboost1.49-dev16:17
ovidiu-florinbut cmake still says that boost is missing16:17
Riddellovidiu-florin: there's other boost packages16:18
Riddellso depends on what it's asking for16:18
shadeslayeryeah ^16:18
ovidiu-florinI'm trying to build akonadi and cmake says that Boost was not found16:19
shadeslayer09/04/13 17:12:39.960073 - [gabble/connection] connector_error_disconnect (connection.c:1772): connection failed: WOCKY_AUTH_ERROR_FAILURE (#6): Client aborted authentication.16:19
shadeslayerRiddell: are you sure your password is correct?16:19
Riddellshadeslayer: same one logs me into gmail fine16:20
shadeslayerd_ed: hey, so, Riddell is having issues connecting to GTalk/Facebook16:21
shadeslayerd_ed: http://paste.kde.org/720104/ debug log16:21
shadeslayerand I see : 09/04/13 17:12:39.959986 - [wocky] auth_failed: wocky-sasl-auth.c:274: Authentication failed!: Client aborted authentication.16:21
d_edissues with both GTalk and Facebook?16:23
d_edoh, whoever has that pastebin has Empathy installed16:23
Riddelld_ed: yep16:23
Riddelld_ed: is that bad?16:24
Riddellapachelogger: any ideas? http://paste.kde.org/720110/http://paste.kde.org/720110/16:24
Riddellapachelogger: any ideas? http://paste.kde.org/720110/16:24
d_edsomewhat. Whatever your problem is it's almost certainly caused by Empathy being mental.16:24
Riddelld_ed: damn, you're right16:27
Riddelld_ed: whyever would empathy affect it? isn't it all the same telepathy in the back?16:27
d_edhowever, there's two problems.16:30
d_ed1) passwords are done by the application16:30
d_edso telepathy says "who can give me a password for this account?"16:30
d_edthen we both race to answer16:30
d_edI think it's whoever is installed last wins16:31
d_edobvioulsy only one of us actually has it16:31
yofelRiddell: bug 116540816:31
ubottubug 1165408 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Raring - Kubuntu-firefox-installer blocks the install of Firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116540816:31
d_ed2) when I was trying it, tesitng something for afiestas, Empathy started meddling with my accounts for "gnome online accounts"16:31
d_ednot really sure what it was16:31
d_edtheoretically everything works together, in practice they both start attacking each other16:32
d_edbrilliant 8-)16:32
Riddellug, nasty16:32
ovidiu-florin(still no one answered) wich boost package should I install?16:33
Riddellovidiu-florin: it depends on what it needs16:33
ovidiu-florinhow can I tell?16:33
Riddellovidiu-florin: apt-cache search libboost dev 1.4916:34
Riddellovidiu-florin: what's it asking for?16:34
ovidiu-florinit just says the boost C++ libraryes16:34
Riddellovidiu-florin: there must be a compile failure if nothing more useful16:34
ovidiu-florinit also says "(program_options)" is that relevant?16:34
Riddellno idea, depends on the context16:35
Riddellyofel: hmm16:36
yofelovidiu-florin: try libboost-program-options-dev then16:37
Riddellyofel: yeah missing its Replaces: kubuntu-firefox-installer16:37
ovidiu-florinit worked, thank you16:38
Riddellovidiu-florin: better to use libboost-program-options1.49-dev16:39
ovidiu-florinRiddell: the one yofel mentionned is a dummy package16:53
ovidiu-florinit points to this one16:53
=== mck182 is now known as mck182|afk
apacheloggerRiddell: tell chris17:45
shadeslayeryofel: what was the option to pass to apt to enable debug info about pkg-resolver?18:19
yofel-o DEBUG::PkgProblemResolver=true18:21
DarkwingChanging the grub entry from Ubuntu to Kubuntu GNU/Linux was brilliant. Bravo18:54
=== mck182|afk is now known as mck182
bmwKDE or Ubuntu bug? Date/Time settings, time zone setting in GUI reverts to UTC. Have to use CLI to correct time zone.20:18
Mamarokbmw: no idea how that happens, markey has the same problem on 13.04 beta1, KDE 4.10.1. I have never seen it on my installation, but I have several timezones defined, inlcuding UTC, he only had a non-UTC one21:24
MamarokI haven't seen that reported in #kde so far, somight be Kubuntu specific, I just don't know how to debug21:25
=== Squt is now known as Sput
smartboyhwOne interesting thing: Although calligra builds in the Ubuntu archive, it doesn't build in my own PPA...23:47
smartboyhw\o/ I (just) got added into kde-packagers mailing list.23:48

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