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rosco_yHow do I add a panel to my desktop?00:11
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tonyphello people00:15
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lordievaderGood morning07:16
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Guest58634Gday, two noob questions. 1. How do can I download anoher word proccesor program, and from where? 2. How do I make the windows minimize to the toolbar?07:32
eoshi there. My kde takes forever to start up. It seems that nepomuk and virtuoso are using the disk at start up for some 3 minutes.07:32
eosanyone with the same problem?07:32
eosGuest58634: another compared to what? to minimize click on the third button from the right.07:33
eosGuest58634: in the top roght corner.07:33
Guest58634Compared to LibreOfficeWriter. The problem is, when I minimize, it dissapears, and I have to alt+tab back to it. It doesnt show on the bottom panel07:35
lordievadereos: Do you use Nepomuk or Virtuoso?07:39
eoslordievader: I activated nepomuk for the semantic search .... I do not understand why virtuosos starts. May it be opened by akonadi?07:40
lordievaderGuest58634: There seem to be only a few alternatives: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_office_suite_software07:40
eosGuest58634: it may be you do  not have a task manager in your panel. have you checked?07:41
eoslordievader: pstree shows that virtuoso was started by nepomuservices07:42
lordievadereos: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/2011-March/009092.html07:42
eoslordievader: well, that is not really a solution, because then the semantic desktop does not work anymore.07:43
lordievaderI know, it was just a bit of clarification of what virtuoso does ;)07:44
eoslordievader: from what I rememebr from long time ago, virtuoso was the original databse udner nepomuk, but for some strange reason I had thought we had moved on to another db .... apologies.07:45
lordievaderTo me the whole business of nepomuk/akonadi/virtuoso is a mess, it either crashes or hogs the cpu, thus making everything very slow.07:45
lordievadereos: Is virtuoso hoggin the cpu at your pc?07:47
eoslordievader: exactly. and if you sum it to the kwin / xorg cpu load .... mmmm .... it is a real pity because 4.10.2 is really great but you cannot wait 300 seconds to have your system up and running.07:47
lordievaderSupposedly someone is working on the login procedure.07:48
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valoriethis virtuoso cpu-hogging used to happen for me maybe 2 years or 18 months ago, but now, never07:51
eosvalorie: it is just always the same ....08:01
eosvalorie: unless maybe creating a completely new user accout, btu then you lose everything08:01
valoriein general I do upgrades, not re-installs08:02
eosvalorie: oh ok ....08:03
valoriewhen I do have problems, I move the old .kde folder, and then put things back until I have a problem08:03
valoriethen back out the problem line08:04
eosvalorie: it takes forever, this is a production machine08:04
valorieI understand08:04
valorieJust stating my experience08:04
eosvalorie: I think you are doing the right thing, it is more complicated when you have a production machine08:05
valorieeos, agreed08:06
valorieotoh, the nepomuk maintainer is amazing, and very helpful08:07
valorieit depends on whether or not you want to continue to use kubuntu on your production machine, I guess08:08
eosvalorie: I really do not know how to solve it .... I will try contacting him. He is around here, or on the dev channel?08:08
valorielooking at the nicklist08:08
eosvalorie: well, it has worked well .... apart this issue and the kwin / xorg issue ....08:08
valoriehe goes by vhanda08:08
eosvalorie: he is no her enow, but I was asking whether he normally hangs out her eor in the dev08:09
valoriekwin maintainer is mgraesslin08:09
valorieI don't see either08:09
valoriemore likely to see them in #kde-devel08:09
valorieboth of then08:09
valoriethis is a KDE issue, not a Kubuntu issue08:10
eosvalorie: are you sure? does it happen in all distributions or only in kubuntu? The xorg / kwin does not seem to happen on all of them ....08:11
valoriethat I don't know for sure08:11
valorieI'm just saying that nepomuk=vhanda, and kwin=mgraesslin08:12
eosvalorie: thanks I will try .... by the way what dm ar eyou using, lightdm or kdm?08:13
valorielightdm I believe08:13
eosvalorie: I was wondering whether it could be the dm ....08:14
eosvalorie: oh! what graphic card / driver do you use?08:15
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Linux 3.5.0-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.10.2, CPU: AMD Phenom II P960 Quad-Core at 800 MHz (3591 bogomips), HD: 324/582GB, RAM: 5544/5714MB, 240 proc's, 9.41h up08:15
valoriedriver -- not sure08:15
valoriewhatever was suggested08:16
valorieI generally go with the defaults unless there is a reason to do otherwise08:16
valorieI don't like to futz08:16
eosvalorie: that is a quite a processor  .... but I meant graphic card08:16
valoriemy computer is a tool08:17
valoriehmm, I was hoping sysinfo would list that08:17
valoriehow do I list that in the cli?08:17
eosvalorie: lspci | grep -i vga08:17
eosvalorie: yes, same for us, but to run models .... if it is hogged up, then the models do not run08:18
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valorie$ lspci | grep -i vga08:19
valorie01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]08:19
valorie02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series]08:19
valorieyes, this is a nice laptop08:19
eosvalorie: oh, thanks .... it is not the same, we have nvidia .... it may be the driver.08:19
valoriemy son's slightly -used gaming machine08:20
eosvalorie: :-D08:20
valoriehe wanted the newest08:20
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lordievadereos: vhanda is currently in #kubuntu-devel, in case you want to know.08:22
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eoslordievader: thanks08:23
eosvalorie: you know these gamers .... but in my case is my wife! :-D08:24
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BluesKajHiyas all11:18
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adebayorrhelloooo whatsapp :D13:20
liudashua! :)13:26
ovidiu-florinhello world :D13:36
smartboyhwHello ovidiu-florin :)13:36
ovidiu-florinI think I've finnaly managed to get my monitor to work properly13:37
ovidiu-florintake a look at this: http://pihalf.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/set-your-monitor-refresh-rate-with-xrandr/13:39
ovidiu-florinis this safe?13:39
ovidiu-florinthese are  my settings now using nouveau http://paste.kde.org/719948/13:42
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lordievaderGood afternoon14:56
ovidiu-florinhello lordievader14:57
ovidiu-florinhow are you?14:57
lordievaderDoing good, ovidiu-florin, how are you?15:02
ovidiu-florinI think I've managed to set up my monitor15:03
ovidiu-florinlordievader: http://pihalf.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/set-your-monitor-refresh-rate-with-xrandr/15:04
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lordievaderovidiu-florin: You know that is exactly the same as a link I gave you yesterday. Just in different words...15:07
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aboudreaultnot sure why, but my sound from the headphone is very very low. everything seems to be at 100% in my mixer16:48
BluesKajaboudreault, I have to ask , vol ctrl on the headphone ?16:50
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aboudreaultBluesKaj, no, they are too cheap for that.16:50
aboudreaultI have also tried the headphone with another laptop and they are fine.16:51
BluesKajaboudreault, a laptop?16:51
aboudreaultit was fine for years... not sure what's the problem now16:51
BluesKajuse the line out ?16:52
aboudreaultsorry, what do you mean? what is the line out?16:53
ovidiu-florinlordievader: you did?16:54
ovidiu-florinsorry I don't remember16:55
BluesKajwell ,some laptops have an audio line ot where a separate sound system can be connected , sometimes this doubles as a hp out16:55
aboudreaultBluesKaj, ah. that.. nah the other line out never worked. I always used the same.16:56
RYDeNim testing kubuntu 12.10 for a very first time16:57
RYDeNand it's amazing16:57
BluesKajaboudreault, did you check alsamixer F5 , maybe the line out is muted or turned ...it really should work16:58
BluesKajor turned down16:58
aboudreaulti hear something, so it's not muted. in alsamixer.. I see Master, Headphone, Headphone 1 set to 10016:59
BluesKajwhat about kmix in the panel , is it turned up too ?17:02
aboudreaultI guess I'll have to investigate deeper soon.17:03
ovidiu-florinaboudreault: If you wont be able to fix this, try this workaround: install the veromix widget and in it's settings you'll have volume. you can set the maximum to be 200 or 300. and increase the volume using this widget17:04
ovidiu-florinyou can drag it in the panel17:04
aboudreaultok thanks for mentionning.17:05
BluesKajor aboudreault if you have pavucontrol installed , check the volume there17:07
aboudreaultwill install it.17:07
BluesKajforgot to mention17:07
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ovidiu-florinaboudreault: I use that for laptops with weak speakers17:11
aboudreaulteverything is at 100% there too.17:13
ovidiu-florinaboudreault: go to the pulse audio tab17:16
ovidiu-florinand set max volume value to 20017:16
aboudreaultthe sound is really crappy if I do that.17:16
aboudreaultthere must be something else....  will re-test my headphone to be sure with another device17:17
ovidiu-florinaboudreault: that means that there is something else17:17
BluesKajmaybe the HPs are cooked17:17
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Did what?17:24
ovidiu-florinlordievader: you said you gave me that link17:26
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lordievaderovidiu-florin: I gave you another one, it said the same thing ;)17:27
ovidiu-florinI don't remember17:27
ovidiu-florinI might have missed it17:28
ovidiu-florinthank you17:28
FloodBotK1ovidiu-florin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:28
lordievaderNo problem ovidiu-florin :)17:28
kardboredanyone nice here?17:28
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kardboredFeeling stupid and lost. Trying to get back into irc (never really got into); trying to find a good channel to join.. not sure what I'm doing.17:29
Picikardbored: If you're just looking for chat you could try #kubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-offtopic17:30
BluesKajkardbored, what kind of subject are you looking for ?17:30
kardboredwell, i guess my main area of questoin is: do people typically search and join channels on known networks, or do users typically know of secret servers and channels which they join? or both?17:31
bazhang!alis | kardbored have a search17:31
ubottukardbored have a search: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*17:31
DouglasKon irc.geekshed.net, there's #Chris which is a good general geek chat.  No link posting allowed just fyi.17:33
kardboredi guess i need to first learn the basics of irc17:34
kardboredcommand and such17:34
kardboredi have a guide up. i'll get reading17:34
BluesKajthis is kubuntu support kardbored , if you need help with kubuntu , this is the place17:34
DouglasKkardbored: they'd help there too I'm sure.  Mainly you need /connect /join /part /me.17:35
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zzillezzhello, is there any reason why certain fonts look bigger (eg. firefox) than the rest of my kde system ? i chose a smaller font in 'configure my computer > application appearance'18:15
drostiezzillezz: gtk applications like Firefox don't obey the same parameters as the Qt apps, I think.18:18
BluesKajzzillezz, you can set your fonts in firefox>edit>preferences>content18:19
zzillezzdrostie: not on my system :(18:19
zzillezzok, i'll have a look BluesKaj18:19
roneyzzillezz: There's any entry in System Settings > Appearance for gtk apps.18:20
NJLas of the last firefox update my context menu is no longer contextual.  I shows every item all the time.  Is this a known issue?18:22
BluesKajdrostie, zzillezzif you make the gtk font settings in system settings the same as the system fonts , it should work afaik18:23
drostieBluesKaj: There's something in general missing for GTK though. Like, the GTK application associations seem to be totally different from the Qt ones. It's why I am very reluctant to have Wine on my KDE computer; the package management system installs Wine Notepad as a default viewer for all sorts of stuff and then every once in a while Firefox opens something in Wine Notepad. :x18:24
drostieI don't know what it is that's missing, but it just seems like some open desktop thing is not shared between the two, if that makes sense.18:25
BluesKajwell , FF here works with the gtk fonts and it could be because all fonts are the same in system settings, gtk and FF content18:27
zzillezzhmm, when i change the fonts in the firefox settings, nothing seems to change .. even after restarting the browser18:29
genii-aroundProbably want qtcurve18:29
genii-around!info qtcurve18:29
ubottuqtcurve (source: kde-style-qtcurve): Unified window decoration for KDE and GTK+ (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.14-1 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 34 kB18:29
genii-aroundAnd then you go to System Settings... Application Appearance.. GTK   and set it from there18:30
zzillezzi can't find the gtk option in application appearance ...18:31
genii-aroundzzillezz: You need the qtcurve stuff installed first18:31
BluesKajzzillezz, which kubuntu version?18:32
zzillezz13.04 beta 218:32
BluesKajit should show up in the options list on the left in systems settings >application appearance18:33
genii-aroundBluesKaj: But, only if you have qtcurve installed :)18:34
zzillezzthanks for the help, first put my daughter in bed and then try some more :) brb18:35
BluesKajthinks that should be default18:35
BluesKajgenii-around, I don't have qtcurve installed18:43
BluesKajjust checked18:43
genii-aroundBluesKaj: I'm pretty sure there must be some qtcurve piece in there someplace.18:46
yofelno, you don't need qtcurve, that was just the old gtk theme18:46
yofel!info kde-config-gtk-style raring18:46
ubottukde-config-gtk-style (source: kde-gtk-config): KDE configuration module for GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3.x styles selection. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:2.2.1-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 115 kB, installed size 793 kB18:46
BluesKajI checked in synaptic , no qtcurve , but i set my gtk themes to oxygengtk , and the system theme is oxygen, ge18:48
* genii-around slides yofel a beautifully prepared coffee18:49
* yofel sips18:49
yofelmhm..... thanks18:49
genii-aroundyofel: :)18:49
BluesKajqtcurve is too flat looking18:50
BluesKajlikes simple themes but with some depth18:51
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yahyaawould anyone happen to know of a good image scanning utility for kubuntu?18:58
bazhangor perhaps xsane18:59
yahyaaok I have simplescan but it keeps telling me it cannot detect a scanner!19:00
bazhangwhich scanner19:00
genii-around!info kooka19:00
ubottuPackage kooka does not exist in quantal19:00
yahyaaI have HP Officejet 660019:00
yahyaait's a all in one19:01
yahyaathe printer works just fine19:01
bazhanglet me check the forums19:01
bazhangjust a moment19:01
genii-aroundyahyaa: Does command:  scanimage -L      show it listed?19:01
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yahyaa1 moment...19:04
yahyaait says no scanners were identified19:05
bazhanghttp://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_6600.html  yahyaa19:05
yahyaaI am connected to the printer wirelessly19:05
bazhangapparently the ubuntu version of hplip is not sufficient19:05
genii-aroundyahyaa: So right now, if it won't see it on that level, no other graphical scanning program that sist on top of that will work either19:05
bazhangyahyaa, is hplip installed?19:08
yahyaahow do I find that out19:09
genii-aroundapt-cache policy hplip19:10
Unit193dpkg -l | grep hplip  is easier for me.19:10
bazhangyahyaa, is this 12.10?19:11
bazhang!info hplip19:11
ubottuhplip (source: hplip): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 86 kB, installed size 425 kB19:11
bazhangthe 12.10 version is what is needed, if not see the link above19:12
bazhangso install it19:12
genii-aroundYou might also want to install libsane-extras     ... it has extra backend drivers19:15
yahyaathis is what I got19:18
yahyaa  Installed: 3.12.6-3ubuntu419:18
yahyaa  Candidate: 3.12.6-3ubuntu419:18
yahyaa  Version table:19:18
yahyaa *** 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 019:18
yahyaa        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages19:18
FloodBotK1yahyaa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:18
yahyaaoops sorry19:18
zzillezzhmm can't install firefox or chromium in kubuntu 13.04b2 ?19:20
zzillezzit launches the muon firefox installer and installs fine, but i can't find firefox in the menu ?19:21
genii-aroundYou probably want package kubuntu-firefox-installer19:22
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Guest91063KDE or Ubuntu bug? Date/Time settings, time zone reverts to UTC. Have to use CLI to correct time zone.19:35
Guest91063That is, GUI time zone setting19:36
lordievaderGuest91063: If it is only the GUI I'd say KDE, though I'm not entirely sure. You could poke around in #kubuntu-devel, they know what to do.19:38
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Guest91063lordievader: thanks20:00
ArthurGordonhi there. i've troubles while using my ipod in combination with amarok. i can't transfer/delete files to/from the ipod, because as the ipod is plugged in, it seems to be mounted by root. can anybody give me a hint to solve that problem?20:26
ArthurGordonhere's a line of the amarok log:20:30
ArthurGordon"Access denied to /tmp/ipod0mkGGr/iPod_Control/Music/F10/libgpod584316.mp3."20:30
ArthurGordonls -al of that returns:20:30
ArthurGordon-> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root20:30
FloodBotK1ArthurGordon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:30
genii-aroundArthurGordon: What is the result of just: mount ...the line where the ipod is mounted there under tmp that is20:33
ArthurGordonthe strage thing is, that mount doesn't retunr anything about that, but in /proc/mounts there is this:20:34
ArthurGordon/dev/sdc2 /tmp/ipody8r1ie vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 020:34
genii-aroundArthurGordon: I think it should probably be mounting with different options, but unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with ipods :(20:42
genii-aroundA glance at http://amarok.community.kde.org/Media_Device:IPod  indicates there are many variables depending on their firmware versions for instance20:43
ArthurGordoni don't  mount it by myself. ipod is mounted automatically by amarok or by kde20:43
* genii-around slides Mamarok a coffee20:46
genii-aroundArthurGordon: She is pretty much the local authority but I'm not sure she's currently awake/active20:47
ArthurGordoni know her nad i already quoted my problem at #amarok, but they send me here, because it seems to be an problem with the mounting if the ipod20:48
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