=== kill9 is now known as kill === kill is now known as kill9 [00:11] How do I add a panel to my desktop? === tony is now known as tonyp [00:15] hello people === FabianB is now known as Guest7751 === Guest7751 is now known as FabianBu === DouglasKAway is now known as DouglasK === DouglasKAway is now known as DouglasK === DouglasK is now known as DouglasKAway === dave is now known as Guest8956 === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj [07:16] Good morning === nick is now known as Guest58634 [07:32] Gday, two noob questions. 1. How do can I download anoher word proccesor program, and from where? 2. How do I make the windows minimize to the toolbar? [07:32] hi there. My kde takes forever to start up. It seems that nepomuk and virtuoso are using the disk at start up for some 3 minutes. [07:32] anyone with the same problem? [07:33] Guest58634: another compared to what? to minimize click on the third button from the right. [07:33] Guest58634: in the top roght corner. [07:35] Compared to LibreOfficeWriter. The problem is, when I minimize, it dissapears, and I have to alt+tab back to it. It doesnt show on the bottom panel [07:39] eos: Do you use Nepomuk or Virtuoso? [07:40] lordievader: I activated nepomuk for the semantic search .... I do not understand why virtuosos starts. May it be opened by akonadi? [07:40] Guest58634: There seem to be only a few alternatives: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Linux_office_suite_software [07:41] Guest58634: it may be you do not have a task manager in your panel. have you checked? [07:42] lordievader: pstree shows that virtuoso was started by nepomuservices [07:42] eos: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/kde/2011-March/009092.html [07:43] lordievader: well, that is not really a solution, because then the semantic desktop does not work anymore. [07:44] I know, it was just a bit of clarification of what virtuoso does ;) [07:45] lordievader: from what I rememebr from long time ago, virtuoso was the original databse udner nepomuk, but for some strange reason I had thought we had moved on to another db .... apologies. [07:45] To me the whole business of nepomuk/akonadi/virtuoso is a mess, it either crashes or hogs the cpu, thus making everything very slow. [07:47] eos: Is virtuoso hoggin the cpu at your pc? [07:47] lordievader: exactly. and if you sum it to the kwin / xorg cpu load .... mmmm .... it is a real pity because 4.10.2 is really great but you cannot wait 300 seconds to have your system up and running. [07:48] Supposedly someone is working on the login procedure. === hunter is now known as Guest60435 [07:51] this virtuoso cpu-hogging used to happen for me maybe 2 years or 18 months ago, but now, never [08:01] valorie: it is just always the same .... [08:01] valorie: unless maybe creating a completely new user accout, btu then you lose everything [08:02] in general I do upgrades, not re-installs [08:03] valorie: oh ok .... [08:03] when I do have problems, I move the old .kde folder, and then put things back until I have a problem [08:04] then back out the problem line [08:04] valorie: it takes forever, this is a production machine [08:04] I understand [08:04] Just stating my experience [08:05] valorie: I think you are doing the right thing, it is more complicated when you have a production machine [08:06] eos, agreed [08:07] otoh, the nepomuk maintainer is amazing, and very helpful [08:08] it depends on whether or not you want to continue to use kubuntu on your production machine, I guess [08:08] valorie: I really do not know how to solve it .... I will try contacting him. He is around here, or on the dev channel? [08:08] looking at the nicklist [08:08] valorie: well, it has worked well .... apart this issue and the kwin / xorg issue .... [08:08] he goes by vhanda [08:09] valorie: he is no her enow, but I was asking whether he normally hangs out her eor in the dev [08:09] kwin maintainer is mgraesslin [08:09] I don't see either [08:09] more likely to see them in #kde-devel [08:09] both of then [08:10] m [08:10] this is a KDE issue, not a Kubuntu issue [08:11] valorie: are you sure? does it happen in all distributions or only in kubuntu? The xorg / kwin does not seem to happen on all of them .... [08:11] that I don't know for sure [08:12] I'm just saying that nepomuk=vhanda, and kwin=mgraesslin [08:13] valorie: thanks I will try .... by the way what dm ar eyou using, lightdm or kdm? [08:13] lightdm I believe [08:14] valorie: I was wondering whether it could be the dm .... [08:15] valorie: oh! what graphic card / driver do you use? [08:15] Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Linux 3.5.0-18-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.10.2, CPU: AMD Phenom II P960 Quad-Core at 800 MHz (3591 bogomips), HD: 324/582GB, RAM: 5544/5714MB, 240 proc's, 9.41h up [08:15] driver -- not sure [08:16] whatever was suggested [08:16] I generally go with the defaults unless there is a reason to do otherwise [08:16] I don't like to futz [08:16] valorie: that is a quite a processor .... but I meant graphic card [08:17] my computer is a tool [08:17] hmm, I was hoping sysinfo would list that [08:17] how do I list that in the cli? [08:17] valorie: lspci | grep -i vga [08:18] valorie: yes, same for us, but to run models .... if it is hogged up, then the models do not run === hunter is now known as Guest62631 [08:19] $ lspci | grep -i vga [08:19] 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] [08:19] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Robson CE [AMD Radeon HD 6300 Series] [08:19] yes, this is a nice laptop [08:19] valorie: oh, thanks .... it is not the same, we have nvidia .... it may be the driver. [08:20] my son's slightly -used gaming machine [08:20] valorie: :-D [08:20] he wanted the newest === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk [08:20] lol [08:22] eos: vhanda is currently in #kubuntu-devel, in case you want to know. === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [08:23] lordievader: thanks [08:24] valorie: you know these gamers .... but in my case is my wife! :-D [08:25] :-) === pjoe is now known as pjoe_dj === dave is now known as Guest55088 [11:04] dacor [11:18] Hiyas all === schmidtm__ is now known as schmidtm_ === Jikai is now known as Jikan === DouglasKAway is now known as DouglasK [13:20] helloooo whatsapp :D [13:26] hua! :) [13:36] hello world :D [13:36] Hello ovidiu-florin :) [13:37] I think I've finnaly managed to get my monitor to work properly [13:39] take a look at this: http://pihalf.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/set-your-monitor-refresh-rate-with-xrandr/ [13:39] is this safe? [13:42] these are my settings now using nouveau http://paste.kde.org/719948/ === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [14:56] Good afternoon [14:57] hello lordievader [14:57] how are you? [15:02] Doing good, ovidiu-florin, how are you? [15:03] I think I've managed to set up my monitor [15:03] finnaly [15:04] lordievader: http://pihalf.wordpress.com/2009/11/16/set-your-monitor-refresh-rate-with-xrandr/ === Whiskey`Wonka is now known as Scotch`Slugworth [15:07] ovidiu-florin: You know that is exactly the same as a link I gave you yesterday. Just in different words... === pjoe_dj is now known as pjoe_afk === divya is now known as Guest10506 === DouglasK is now known as DouglasKAway [16:48] not sure why, but my sound from the headphone is very very low. everything seems to be at 100% in my mixer [16:50] aboudreault, I have to ask , vol ctrl on the headphone ? === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen [16:50] BluesKaj, no, they are too cheap for that. [16:51] I have also tried the headphone with another laptop and they are fine. [16:51] aboudreault, a laptop? [16:51] yes. [16:51] it was fine for years... not sure what's the problem now [16:52] use the line out ? [16:53] sorry, what do you mean? what is the line out? [16:54] lordievader: you did? [16:55] sorry I don't remember [16:55] well ,some laptops have an audio line ot where a separate sound system can be connected , sometimes this doubles as a hp out [16:56] BluesKaj, ah. that.. nah the other line out never worked. I always used the same. [16:57] im testing kubuntu 12.10 for a very first time [16:57] and it's amazing [16:58] aboudreault, did you check alsamixer F5 , maybe the line out is muted or turned ...it really should work [16:58] or turned down [16:59] i hear something, so it's not muted. in alsamixer.. I see Master, Headphone, Headphone 1 set to 100 [17:00] strange. [17:02] what about kmix in the panel , is it turned up too ? [17:03] yes. [17:03] I guess I'll have to investigate deeper soon. [17:04] aboudreault: If you wont be able to fix this, try this workaround: install the veromix widget and in it's settings you'll have volume. you can set the maximum to be 200 or 300. and increase the volume using this widget [17:04] you can drag it in the panel [17:05] ok thanks for mentionning. [17:07] or aboudreault if you have pavucontrol installed , check the volume there [17:07] will install it. [17:07] forgot to mention === manu is now known as Guest41152 [17:11] aboudreault: I use that for laptops with weak speakers [17:13] everything is at 100% there too. [17:16] aboudreault: go to the pulse audio tab [17:16] and set max volume value to 200 [17:16] the sound is really crappy if I do that. [17:17] there must be something else.... will re-test my headphone to be sure with another device [17:17] aboudreault: that means that there is something else [17:17] maybe the HPs are cooked [17:19] maybe [17:24] ovidiu-florin: Did what? [17:26] lordievader: you said you gave me that link === krayfisch is now known as kardbored [17:27] ovidiu-florin: I gave you another one, it said the same thing ;) [17:27] I don't remember [17:28] I might have missed it [17:28] thank you [17:28] :D [17:28] ovidiu-florin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [17:28] No problem ovidiu-florin :) [17:28] anyone nice here? === DouglasKAway is now known as DouglasK [17:29] Feeling stupid and lost. Trying to get back into irc (never really got into); trying to find a good channel to join.. not sure what I'm doing. [17:30] kardbored: If you're just looking for chat you could try #kubuntu-offtopic and/or #ubuntu-offtopic [17:30] kardbored, what kind of subject are you looking for ? [17:31] well, i guess my main area of questoin is: do people typically search and join channels on known networks, or do users typically know of secret servers and channels which they join? or both? [17:31] !alis | kardbored have a search [17:31] kardbored have a search: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http* [17:33] on irc.geekshed.net, there's #Chris which is a good general geek chat. No link posting allowed just fyi. [17:33] hmm... [17:34] i guess i need to first learn the basics of irc [17:34] command and such [17:34] i have a guide up. i'll get reading [17:34] this is kubuntu support kardbored , if you need help with kubuntu , this is the place [17:35] kardbored: they'd help there too I'm sure. Mainly you need /connect /join /part /me. === kubuntu is now known as Guest71588 [18:15] hello, is there any reason why certain fonts look bigger (eg. firefox) than the rest of my kde system ? i chose a smaller font in 'configure my computer > application appearance' [18:18] zzillezz: gtk applications like Firefox don't obey the same parameters as the Qt apps, I think. [18:19] zzillezz, you can set your fonts in firefox>edit>preferences>content [18:19] drostie: not on my system :( [18:19] ok, i'll have a look BluesKaj [18:20] zzillezz: There's any entry in System Settings > Appearance for gtk apps. [18:22] as of the last firefox update my context menu is no longer contextual. I shows every item all the time. Is this a known issue? [18:23] drostie, zzillezzif you make the gtk font settings in system settings the same as the system fonts , it should work afaik [18:24] BluesKaj: There's something in general missing for GTK though. Like, the GTK application associations seem to be totally different from the Qt ones. It's why I am very reluctant to have Wine on my KDE computer; the package management system installs Wine Notepad as a default viewer for all sorts of stuff and then every once in a while Firefox opens something in Wine Notepad. :x [18:25] I don't know what it is that's missing, but it just seems like some open desktop thing is not shared between the two, if that makes sense. [18:27] well , FF here works with the gtk fonts and it could be because all fonts are the same in system settings, gtk and FF content [18:27] drostie,^ [18:29] hmm, when i change the fonts in the firefox settings, nothing seems to change .. even after restarting the browser [18:29] Probably want qtcurve [18:29] !info qtcurve [18:29] qtcurve (source: kde-style-qtcurve): Unified window decoration for KDE and GTK+ (meta-package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.14-1 (quantal), package size 2 kB, installed size 34 kB [18:30] And then you go to System Settings... Application Appearance.. GTK and set it from there [18:31] i can't find the gtk option in application appearance ... [18:31] zzillezz: You need the qtcurve stuff installed first [18:32] zzillezz, which kubuntu version? [18:32] 13.04 beta 2 [18:33] it should show up in the options list on the left in systems settings >application appearance [18:34] BluesKaj: But, only if you have qtcurve installed :) [18:34] aha [18:35] thanks for the help, first put my daughter in bed and then try some more :) brb [18:35] thinks that should be default [18:43] genii-around, I don't have qtcurve installed [18:43] just checked [18:45] Interesting [18:46] BluesKaj: I'm pretty sure there must be some qtcurve piece in there someplace. [18:46] no, you don't need qtcurve, that was just the old gtk theme [18:46] !info kde-config-gtk-style raring [18:46] kde-config-gtk-style (source: kde-gtk-config): KDE configuration module for GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3.x styles selection. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:2.2.1-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 115 kB, installed size 793 kB [18:48] I checked in synaptic , no qtcurve , but i set my gtk themes to oxygengtk , and the system theme is oxygen, ge [18:48] genii-around,^ [18:48] Ah [18:49] ciao [18:49] * genii-around slides yofel a beautifully prepared coffee [18:49] * yofel sips [18:49] mhm..... thanks [18:49] yofel: :) [18:50] qtcurve is too flat looking [18:51] likes simple themes but with some depth === Freejack is now known as Freejack_ [18:58] would anyone happen to know of a good image scanning utility for kubuntu? [18:59] simplescan? [18:59] or perhaps xsane [19:00] ok I have simplescan but it keeps telling me it cannot detect a scanner! [19:00] which scanner [19:00] !info kooka [19:00] Package kooka does not exist in quantal [19:00] I have HP Officejet 6600 [19:00] Hm [19:01] it's a all in one [19:01] the printer works just fine [19:01] let me check the forums [19:01] just a moment [19:01] ok [19:01] yahyaa: Does command: scanimage -L show it listed? === spanner is now known as leeder-krenon [19:04] 1 moment... [19:05] it says no scanners were identified [19:05] http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/officejet/officejet_6600.html yahyaa [19:05] I am connected to the printer wirelessly [19:05] apparently the ubuntu version of hplip is not sufficient [19:05] yahyaa: So right now, if it won't see it on that level, no other graphical scanning program that sist on top of that will work either [19:08] yahyaa, is hplip installed? [19:09] how do I find that out [19:10] apt-cache policy hplip [19:10] dpkg -l | grep hplip is easier for me. [19:11] yahyaa, is this 12.10? [19:11] !info hplip [19:11] hplip (source: hplip): HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 (quantal), package size 86 kB, installed size 425 kB [19:12] the 12.10 version is what is needed, if not see the link above [19:12] yes [19:12] so install it [19:15] You might also want to install libsane-extras ... it has extra backend drivers [19:18] this is what I got [19:18] hplip: [19:18] Installed: 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 [19:18] Candidate: 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 [19:18] Version table: [19:18] *** 3.12.6-3ubuntu4 0 [19:18] 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages [19:18] yahyaa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [19:18] oops sorry [19:20] hmm can't install firefox or chromium in kubuntu 13.04b2 ? [19:21] it launches the muon firefox installer and installs fine, but i can't find firefox in the menu ? [19:22] You probably want package kubuntu-firefox-installer === ubuntu is now known as Guest22038 === TaiChi_ is now known as Guest91063 [19:35] KDE or Ubuntu bug? Date/Time settings, time zone reverts to UTC. Have to use CLI to correct time zone. [19:36] That is, GUI time zone setting [19:38] Guest91063: If it is only the GUI I'd say KDE, though I'm not entirely sure. You could poke around in #kubuntu-devel, they know what to do. === james is now known as Guest49599 === Guest49599 is now known as Jamesypie === faze is now known as pam === andrew is now known as Guest198 [20:00] lordievader: thanks [20:26] hi there. i've troubles while using my ipod in combination with amarok. i can't transfer/delete files to/from the ipod, because as the ipod is plugged in, it seems to be mounted by root. can anybody give me a hint to solve that problem? [20:30] here's a line of the amarok log: [20:30] "Access denied to /tmp/ipod0mkGGr/iPod_Control/Music/F10/libgpod584316.mp3." [20:30] ls -al of that returns: [20:30] -> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root [20:30] ArthurGordon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [20:33] ArthurGordon: What is the result of just: mount ...the line where the ipod is mounted there under tmp that is [20:34] the strage thing is, that mount doesn't retunr anything about that, but in /proc/mounts there is this: [20:34] /dev/sdc2 /tmp/ipody8r1ie vfat rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro 0 0 [20:42] ArthurGordon: I think it should probably be mounting with different options, but unfortunately I'm not all that familiar with ipods :( [20:43] A glance at http://amarok.community.kde.org/Media_Device:IPod indicates there are many variables depending on their firmware versions for instance [20:43] i don't mount it by myself. ipod is mounted automatically by amarok or by kde [20:46] * genii-around slides Mamarok a coffee [20:47] ArthurGordon: She is pretty much the local authority but I'm not sure she's currently awake/active [20:48] i know her nad i already quoted my problem at #amarok, but they send me here, because it seems to be an problem with the mounting if the ipod === DouglasK is now known as DouglasKAway === ubuntu is now known as Guest20796 === nosrepa is now known as aperson === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli === spanky is now known as spankyspank === Vito_ is now known as Vito