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| pitti | Good morning | 06:30 |
|---|---|---|
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 07:28 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va ? | 07:33 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, oui, très bien, et toi ? | 07:33 |
| pitti | seb128: moi aussi ! j'aime le soleil ! | 07:33 |
| seb128 | on a pas de soleil ici aujourd'hui :-( | 07:34 |
| seb128 | back to grey and cloudy for the next 3 days at least (according to the forecast) | 07:34 |
| seb128 | with some rains in the middle | 07:34 |
| didrocks | +1, pas de soleil ici :/ | 07:34 |
| dpm | good morning, if it helps, there's no sun in here, either :) | 07:42 |
| dpm | I've made some progress with my laptop. I could now get it to boot, load the nvidia drivers and log into a session. the only remaining thing is the dash and panel: they just won't load, and I end up with a dash-less session when I log in. I tried to run unity-panel-service manually and here's what I got, any ideas? -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5691659/ | 07:44 |
| dpm | the dash and all works well if I log into a guest session | 07:45 |
| dpm | it's just when I log in as my user that the dash won't load | 07:45 |
| seb128 | dpm, try moving .compiz .compiz-1 .config/compiz-1 away | 07:50 |
| seb128 | dpm, could you also pastebin your .xsession-errors? | 07:50 |
| seb128 | dpm, good morning btw ;-) | 07:50 |
| dpm | seb128, morning :-) I did move them away last night, but didn't seem to make a difference. Let me try again. In any case, here's .xsession-errors -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5691678/ | 07:52 |
| seb128 | dpm, unity is not in your plugins list | 07:53 |
| seb128 | dpm, do you have ccsm installed? | 07:54 |
| dpm | ah, weird. No, I stay well away from ccsm, I've not installed it | 07:54 |
| seb128 | dpm, try to | 07:56 |
| seb128 | gsettings reset org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ active-plugins | 07:56 |
| dpm | seb128, do I need to install ccsm for that, or can I just run the command? | 07:56 |
| seb128 | run the command | 07:56 |
| dpm | ok | 07:57 |
| seb128 | ccsm was to avoid having to figure out the command :p | 07:57 |
| dpm | :-) | 07:57 |
| dpm | it tells me the org.compiz.core schema does not exist (could this have something to do with me moving the .compiz folder away?) | 07:58 |
| seb128 | dpm, dpkg -l | grep compiz-gnome | 07:59 |
| seb128 | dpm, no, it doesn't | 07:59 |
| dpm | seb128, it seems to be installed: | 08:00 |
| dpm | ii compiz-gnome 1:0.9.9~daily13.04.05-0ubuntu1 amd64 OpenGL window and compositing manager - GNOME window decorator | 08:00 |
| seb128 | weird | 08:00 |
| seb128 | dpm, ls -l /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.compiz.core.gschema.xml | 08:01 |
| seb128 | dpm, if it's there, try to "sudo glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/" | 08:01 |
| seb128 | dpm, I'm starting wondering if your box is not broken enough that you should reinstall it rather trying to chase issues | 08:02 |
| dpm | seb128, the schema is there, but glib-compile-schemas did not seem to do anything (returned no output and the gsettings command still complains). Yeah, I've thought of that too, but it seems I'm so close now :) | 08:04 |
| seb128 | dpm, shrug, install ccsm, run it, go to unity, try enabling the plugin there ;-) | 08:06 |
| dpm | ok, will try that, thanks a lot seb128! | 08:06 |
| seb128 | dpm, yw | 08:06 |
| seb128 | dpm, do you know what happened to the box? do you have a broken disk? | 08:06 |
| seb128 | pitti, so back to update-notifier, you would basically look if "fuser /var/lib/dpkg/lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock /var/run/unattended-upgrades.lock" returns 0? | 08:08 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, does the exit status is computed with "or"? | 08:09 |
| seb128 | pitti, from my tries, as soon any of the listed files has a lock it returns 1 | 08:09 |
| Laney | hey ho | 08:09 |
| seb128 | ups | 08:09 |
| seb128 | 0 | 08:09 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, one needs to check for existance first | 08:09 |
| pitti | seb128: if I run this on my box, it fails with 1, as /var/run/unattended-upgrades.lock doesn't exist | 08:10 |
| dpm | seb128, so the machine had not been able to reboot or restart for a while (it just dropped to single user mode in the terminal). When I turned it off yesterday, I did it with the power button without disc sync, and I guess that's where it all started: it could first not load the nvidia driver and could not read the /boot partition. So I took it out, mounted it from my desktop, ran fsck, reinstalled the kernel, and the nvidia driver. That worked (I can | 08:10 |
| dpm | even now reboot properly \o/, but then the Unity issue kicked in | 08:10 |
| pitti | seb128: also, /var/run -> /run, while we are at it | 08:10 |
| seb128 | pitti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5691709/ | 08:10 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| seb128 | pitti, the 3 logs are | 08:11 |
| seb128 | - nothing happening | 08:11 |
| seb128 | - update-manager starting and doing the "index update" | 08:11 |
| pitti | seb128: otherwise this sounds right to me | 08:11 |
| seb128 | - update-manager installing upgrades | 08:11 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you? | 08:11 |
| pitti | hey Laney, welcome back | 08:12 |
| Laney | not bad thanks! | 08:12 |
| Laney | thanks pitti, how's it going? | 08:12 |
| pitti | Laney: quite well indeed, thanks! | 08:12 |
| Laney | woot | 08:12 |
| seb128 | dpm, it seems like you got some disk corruption, can be fun to track what is buggy and where due to it | 08:13 |
| seb128 | dpm, if the issue is with your user, maybe create a new one and move datas over | 08:13 |
| pitti | seb128: so we can put that, and some [ -e ] tests into a simple shell script, and add something like /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/com.ubuntu.update-notifier.policy to run it through pkexec without a password | 08:14 |
| dpm | seb128, yeah, after seeing the guest session works, I thought of that. I had the hope that fixing the current one would be easier and save me moving over all my data, but I'm starting to think otherwise :) | 08:14 |
| pitti | seb128: actually, with "yes" instead of "auth_admin", of course | 08:14 |
| seb128 | pitti, sounds good ... do you want to do it or should I have a look? | 08:14 |
| seb128 | or we might try to find a volunteer | 08:15 |
| * seb128 looks at Laney :p | 08:15 | |
| pitti | seb128: I can do it | 08:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 08:15 |
| * seb128 needs to work on system settings plans | 08:15 | |
| pitti | seb128: that was in update-notifier, right? | 08:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes, src/update.c in dpkg_lock_is_taken() | 08:16 |
| pitti | seb128: I'd like to add a bug task for this; is there an existing bug for the u-s-s -> systemd-services migration? | 08:16 |
| pitti | (or at least refer to it in the changelog, for release team review) | 08:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, in fact we could even drop that check I think, update-manager does display "lock taken, waiting for it to be released" nowadays if you start it with a lock... | 08:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, #1153567 | 08:18 |
| pitti | seb128: still, as it just pops up automatically these days that looks bad | 08:18 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 08:18 |
| seb128 | pitti, de rien | 08:18 |
| dpm | pitti, do you know what the best way to do a file system check on an encrypted system is? If I mark the system to do a check on reboot, will it do the right thing? I.e. unlock the partition first and do the file check? | 08:21 |
| pitti | dpm: udisksctl unlock, then run sudo fsck on /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root | 08:22 |
| pitti | dpm: you can do all this in gnome disks, too | 08:22 |
| dpm | pitti, ah, let me try that, thanks. Also, the issue I had yesterday whereby nautilus cannot mount the encrypted partition and it has to be mounted on the command line: what's the best package to file a bug against? | 08:24 |
| * pitti OTP, bbl | 08:24 | |
| seb128 | dpm, try udisks2 for the bug, pitti will reassign if ndeed | 08:27 |
| pitti | dpm: ^ with some screenshots, preferably | 08:31 |
| dpm | seb128, pitti, thanks, will do. fyi, gnome disks (at least the quantal version from my desktop machine) could check or mount the encrypted partition: it gave me this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5691746/ | 08:32 |
| dpm | sorry, I meant could *not* | 08:32 |
| Laney | hmm, nvidia-310 not building with the new kernel | 08:45 |
| pitti | dpm: hm, that does look like an udisks bug; but in raring we use udisks2, it might behave differently there | 09:18 |
| dpm | pitti, ok, gotcha, will try again when I upgrade my desktop machine too | 09:19 |
| zzecool | seb128: are you here man ?? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | zzecool, hi | 09:46 |
| zzecool | :) | 09:46 |
| zzecool | if you have some time i want to report you a prob | 09:46 |
| zzecool | you use to help a lot in the past | 09:46 |
| zzecool | i just upgrade to raring and im getting a strange problem everything is fine with unity but i cant get a wallpaper . My wallpaper is a mess o corrupted images from windows i open and close like ghosts. no mateer if i try to change it to something else it doesnt work | 09:48 |
| seb128 | zzecool, do you use nautilus to render your desktop background? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | zzecool, what version of nautilus do you use? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | zzecool, gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons | 09:49 |
| zzecool | one sec | 09:49 |
| zzecool | it returns : true | 09:50 |
| zzecool | im using the nautiolous form the gnome3 ppa | 09:50 |
| seb128 | that's why | 09:50 |
| zzecool | let me check the version | 09:50 |
| seb128 | broken ppa | 09:50 |
| zzecool | aaa | 09:50 |
| zzecool | really? | 09:50 |
| seb128 | or broken GNOME 3.8 | 09:50 |
| zzecool | thank you seb128 you are the man that have the right answers always | 09:50 |
| zzecool | :) | 09:50 |
| zzecool | ill downgrade | 09:50 |
| zzecool | :) | 09:50 |
| seb128 | zzecool, gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.background active true | 09:51 |
| seb128 | should workaround it | 09:51 |
| zzecool | let me check | 09:51 |
| zzecool | with a restart or without one ? | 09:51 |
| zzecool | i just did it and nothing changed | 09:51 |
| seb128 | you might need to restart gnome-settings-daemon (or your session) | 09:52 |
| pitti | seb128: top 3 changes in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/update-notifier/ubuntu/changes, if you have a minute for eyeballing | 10:07 |
| pitti | seb128: I tested it for both cases (no apt active, and apt-get update running while starting u-n) | 10:08 |
| zzecool | seb128: thank you friend the workaround didnt work but a ppa purge did the job just fine =) | 10:15 |
| zzecool | you saved my day | 10:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, looking | 10:16 |
| seb128 | zzecool, yw | 10:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, works fine for me | 10:23 |
| pitti | seb128: merci | 10:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, merci à toi ! | 10:31 |
| pitti | seb128: uploaded | 10:34 |
| seb128 | pitti, \o/ | 10:34 |
| davmor2 | morning seb128 today there was an RB update but I still see no artwork was that meant to fix it do you know? | 10:59 |
| seb128 | davmor2, hey, not supposed to be fixed, that was just a build fix upload | 11:01 |
| davmor2 | seb128: phew :) | 11:02 |
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| === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch | ||
| xnox | Am I correct to assume that bug 991637 will be fixed released in q/p with the next round of SRUs? | 11:27 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 991637 in OEM Priority Project precise "unity launcher vanishes when switching to mirrored displays" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/991637 | 11:27 |
| didrocks | xnox: right, I generally do that as part of my patch pilot shift | 11:28 |
| seb128 | xnox, is the question "do I need to sponsor the fixes"? | 11:28 |
| didrocks | or whenever I'm getting the time | 11:28 |
| didrocks | xnox: if you feel confident, I can send you the full doc :) | 11:28 |
| didrocks | (with autopilot tests running, and what's ready for P) | 11:29 |
| xnox | didrocks: no, thanks =)))) | 11:29 |
| xnox | seb128: somebody cherrypicked that and proposed merging into quantal packaging branch, which as far as I am aware is not the right way to do unity stable SRUs. | 11:29 |
| didrocks | xnox: yeah, we need a document with autopilot running and so on | 11:30 |
| xnox | didrocks: ack. that's what I thought =) | 11:30 |
| didrocks | om26er: we already discussed it btw ^ | 11:31 |
| om26er | xnox, didrocks autopilot tests ran fine for those branches | 11:32 |
| om26er | no regression. still have to do manual testing | 11:32 |
| didrocks | om26er: do you have the doc with the tests results for autopilot and manual testing? | 11:32 |
| didrocks | ok, no manual testing, so don't propose the branch before having everything set please :) | 11:32 |
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| Sweetshark | wow. just wow: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62764. I thought we are not living in the '90ies anymore ... | 13:17 |
| ubot2 | Freedesktop bug 62764 in Libreoffice "Liberation fonts causing Windows 7 SP1 to BSOD" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:18 |
| ogra_ | just installl lubuntu and you are back ... its like a timewarp ;) | 13:18 |
| Sweetshark | ogra_: cant I crash the kernel by installing a font on lubuntu? if not, let Microsoft handle it -- they have more experience with the 90ies experience. | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | :) | 13:20 |
| davmor2 | Sweetshark: were not, but that is a bug in MS :) | 13:21 |
| davmor2 | s/were/we're | 13:21 |
| Sweetshark | I guess we have to amend the "LibreOffice -- based on technology breaking your toolchain since 1985" to also cover kernels. after all windows isnt the first instance of this, *cough* bug 745836 *cough* (although that 'only' crashed the userspace process) | 13:25 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 745836 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) "encrypted swap corrupts application stack/heap [was: soffice.bin SIGSEGV cppu::throwException()]" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745836 | 13:25 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you have any opinion on updating to the current rb release which just went out? | 13:27 |
| seb128 | Laney, our current version is 2.98 with a stack of backports for gstreamer1.0 but it seems to have quite some issues and I'm wondering if we would not be better off with update | 13:28 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's a bit late for an update with a big diff like that though... | 13:28 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: libreoffice-common doesn't suggest libreoffice-style-human any more. was that intentional? | 13:48 |
| Sweetshark | bdrung: oh, missed that one. no -- that was not intentional. lemme check how that happened ... | 13:50 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: btw, the "Breaks: libreoffice-emailmerge (<< 1:4.0.2~rc1)" should be added to the Debian experimental branch, too | 13:53 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: "for LibreOffice" -> "for the LibreOffice" to reduce the diff completely. :) | 13:54 |
| Laney | seb128: no real opinion there, shall we package it up and get people to try it for a couple of days? | 13:57 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: you may want to run wrap-and-sort in the experimental branch (wrap-and-sort -d . -v && for i in control*; do echo >> $i; done) | 13:57 |
| seb128 | Laney, it's an idea, I was looking a bit at the git logs but there are some ui changes in the middle | 13:59 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm also not sure how different is the gstreamer1 code you backported compared to what landed in trunk; they didn't do so many fixes after landing it | 14:00 |
| Laney | mine was basically a git diff of the gstreamer branch over the release | 14:00 |
| Laney | are there problems related to that stuff? | 14:00 |
| seb128 | I don't know, I had a couple of times where doing "next track" in the indicator let me with 2 songs playing at the same time | 14:01 |
| seb128 | but I've no idea if that's gstreamer, rb, fixed in trunk | 14:01 |
| Nafallo | seb128: hey. who's the best person to discuss a gstreamer module for raring? :-) | 14:11 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, gstreamer upstream? release team? us? | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | Nafallo, glazor and probably Laney | 14:12 |
| seb128 | depends if that's a feature, a new package, a bug ... | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | and what seb said :) | 14:12 |
| Nafallo | patch for converting from 0.10 to 1.0 exists, but Debian is blocking on the patch not being upstreamed. would be nice to have in raring ;-) | 14:12 |
| seb128 | ogra_, slomo you mean rather than glatzor? | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | oh | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah. the names are so close ... so easy to mix them up :P | 14:13 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, what source? | 14:13 |
| Nafallo | seb128: crystalhd, in universe | 14:13 |
| Laney | what do you mean by not upstreamed? is it at least forwarded? | 14:13 |
| Nafallo | Laney: it is. | 14:14 |
| Nafallo | let me find the specifics. | 14:14 |
| Nafallo | http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org/msg59561.html | 14:14 |
| Nafallo | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702372 | 14:15 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 702372 in gstreamer0.10-crystalhd "Please build against gstreamer 1.0" [Wishlist,Open] | 14:15 |
| Nafallo | those two would be the more relevant ones I believe :-) | 14:15 |
| Laney | you've been testing it? | 14:16 |
| Laney | should be fine - please file the FFe | 14:16 |
| Nafallo | I'm still waiting for my card I'm afraid :-) | 14:16 |
| Nafallo | hopefully it will arrive before I'm moving countries on Friday morning ;-) | 14:17 |
| Nafallo | bug 1166816 | 14:26 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1166816 in crystalhd (Ubuntu) "[FFe] GStreamer 1.0 module should be in Ubuntu 13.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1166816 | 14:26 |
| Nafallo | do I need to do anything else? :-) | 14:26 |
| Laney | Explaining why it's required would be nice ;-) | 14:27 |
| Laney | have you checked the patch at least builds on ubuntu? | 14:28 |
| Nafallo | I don't have any dev environment set up or anything :-/ | 14:28 |
| Nafallo | I can try and get something going, but it's not likely to be this week. | 14:29 |
| Nafallo | when would the cut-off be? | 14:29 |
| === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark | ||
| Laney | ah no worries, I'll try it | 14:29 |
| Nafallo | thanks muchly :-) | 14:30 |
| Nafallo | hopefully I can back in the building packages game at some point soon, but right now it's new job and moving back to Sweden that's high on the agenda ;-) | 14:31 |
| Nafallo | hopefully I'll have a card in my netbook by Thursday and I'll be more than happy to try things out after that :-) | 14:32 |
| Nafallo | I went for BCM970015 | 14:32 |
| Nafallo | from what I've read I should be able to get 1080p running smooth in flash at least ;-) | 14:32 |
| Nafallo | but I won't install gstreamer 0.10 just for that :-P | 14:33 |
| Nafallo | thanks much Laney :-) | 14:33 |
| Nafallo | Laney: anything I can do, just give me a poke :-) | 14:33 |
| seb128 | jbicha, hey | 14:41 |
| seb128 | jbicha, did you do your rhythmbox build fix (thanks) in the vcs and forgot to push or did you forgot the vcs? | 14:41 |
| jbicha | seb128: I forgot the vcs, let me push... | 14:53 |
| seb128 | jbicha, thanks | 14:53 |
| jbicha | done | 14:54 |
| Laney | when's the meeting? 30 mins? | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | is the meeting in 30m or an hour and 30? | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | Laney, haha | 14:58 |
| Laney | haha | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | it dropped off my calendar... | 14:58 |
| Laney | I have it in 30 on there but I want to make sure it's right ... | 14:58 |
| Laney | google calendar usually is with such things though | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | oh... on the calendar the meeting got moved to wednesday! | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | on the ubuntu-engineering calendar | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | but that has it in 2 1/2 hours from now | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | and tomorrow | 15:02 |
| seb128 | it's today in 30min | 15:03 |
| seb128 | brb | 15:03 |
| * Laney has no idea what that calendar is :P | 15:03 | |
| kenvandine | :) | 15:03 |
| Nafallo | seb128: wb | 15:05 |
| Sweetshark | bdrung: remaining issues fixed on p.c.c and alioth ... | 15:05 |
| seb128 | re | 15:05 |
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| ogra_ | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | gwibber-service gwibber-service-facebook gwibber-service-identica gwibber-service-twitter libgconf2-4 libgtkspell-3-0 libgwibber-gtk3 libgwibber3 python3-pycurl unity-lens-gwibber | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | thats pretty funny | 15:15 |
| ogra_ | i just did a dist-upgrade that actually insisted to install all these packages | 15:15 |
| seb128 | weird | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | (well, not gconf and gtkspell, but all the gwibber stuff) | 15:16 |
| seb128 | libgconf2-4 not longer required is good ;-) | 15:16 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 15:16 |
| mitya57 | ogra_: bug 1156979? | 15:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1156979 in unity-lens-friends (Ubuntu) "[FFe] replace gwibber-service with Friends" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1156979 | 15:17 |
| ogra_ | mitya57, that doesnt really explain why it installed it though :) | 15:18 |
| ogra_ | (gwibber wasnt installed here ... the dist-upgrade pulled it in ... and then told me i can autoremove the packages) | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | strange, yeah | 15:19 |
| ogra_ | anyway ... lets reboot and see how my upgrade went :) | 15:19 |
| mitya57 | also, libgconf2-4 != libgconf-2-4 :) | 15:19 |
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| ogra_ | hmm, sad, unity still uses SW rendering on my chromebook | 15:25 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, qengho, didrocks, Laney, kenvandine, mlankhorst, mterry, robru, tkamppeter, attente: hey, it's meeting time | 15:29 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2013-04-09 | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | yay! | 15:29 |
| Sweetshark | o/ | 15:30 |
| tkamppeter | hi | 15:30 |
| seb128 | how is everyone doing? | 15:30 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:30 |
| mterry | Oh goodness, so soon. Darn daylight savings | 15:31 |
| Laney | ello | 15:31 |
| robru | good morning | 15:31 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey, we will discuss meeting time at the end | 15:31 |
| seb128 | let's get started | 15:31 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, hey | 15:31 |
| * Sweetshark is polishing 4.0.2-0ubuntu1 for raring and began looking into improving upstream tinderboxing. Thats all. | 15:31 | |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, thanks | 15:33 |
| seb128 | qengho, hey | 15:33 |
| qengho | - Testing chromium-browser on specialty hardware. Working on SIGBUS stack-smashing bug. | 15:33 |
| qengho | - Preparing c-b 26.0.1410.43 security update. Delayed after webapps bug and ARM FTBFS. | 15:33 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:33 |
| seb128 | qengho, thanks | 15:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey | 15:33 |
| didrocks | hey! | 15:33 |
| didrocks | * Mostly daily releases work, helping and ensuring everything is working | 15:33 |
| didrocks | * Help factorizing having only on autopilot (configurable) job | 15:33 |
| didrocks | * Some bug fixes | 15:33 |
| didrocks | * Planning on the R+1/R release transtions | 15:33 |
| didrocks | * Touch apps discussions | 15:33 |
| didrocks | . | 15:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 15:34 |
| Sweetshark | whops, addendum: Fixed liblangtag ftbfs on ARM. | 15:34 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, ;-) | 15:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, welcome back ;-) | 15:34 |
| Laney | hello! | 15:34 |
| Laney | Short week due to two weeks holidaying in the peak district (impressive snow drifts). Uploaded the remainder of gstreamer 1.0.6. DMB stuff. Working on porting indicator-session to logind; mostly working but still some bugs to shake out before pushing it out. Some release work (queue / FFe reviews). Will now start looking at RB 2.99 for testing in the desktop PPA unless seb128 is doing that. | 15:34 |
| seb128 | Laney, rb 2.99: quite some changes there (like they refactored menus to use gmenumodel, changed structured, changed some UI) ... we might just wait for next cycle | 15:35 |
| Laney | yeah - I don't know how bad these bugs are | 15:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, well if you want to get the new version if the ppa that's not wasted work, it will be for s if not for raring | 15:36 |
| Laney | spotify by default? *ahem* | 15:36 |
| seb128 | lol | 15:36 |
| seb128 | I looked at launchpad, not so many bugs reported against rb in raring | 15:36 |
| * Laney nods | 15:36 | |
| seb128 | but well, it's devel cycle, not sure how many people are testing it either | 15:36 |
| jbicha | Laney: we already have RB 2.99 in the GNOME3 staging PPA, I don't think we want it for raring | 15:36 |
| Laney | ah nice | 15:36 |
| seb128 | jbicha, having issues with it? | 15:37 |
| seb128 | seems like a settled question in any case | 15:37 |
| seb128 | Laney, thanks | 15:37 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 15:37 |
| Laney | cheers | 15:38 |
| jbicha | I reported a few problems to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3A%22rhythmbox%22 | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | * More work on signon-ui and which WebKit to use for touch images, check the webcredentials section on the meeting wiki page for details | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | * Prepared share-app for daily-build-next | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | * Landed friends-app and renamed gwibber source to friends-app | 15:38 |
| kenvandine | /EOF | 15:38 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok, thanks (I don't think your own custom search will work for others ;-) | 15:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 15:39 |
| jbicha | well just sort by ID and see the most recent several bugs | 15:39 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey (forgot you in the ping list, sorry, always has to be someone :p) | 15:39 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ok | 15:39 |
| seb128 | no cyphermox? moving on | 15:40 |
| seb128 | mlankhorst, hey | 15:40 |
| seb128 | ok, no luck there either | 15:42 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey | 15:42 |
| mterry | - Good progress on Desktop-greeter-in-Qml work; functional, but not fully functional | 15:42 |
| mterry | - A little bit of work on the phablet greeter, getting it to work with LightDM | 15:42 |
| mterry | - A lot of wrangling with daily-release for the phablet stack (I've been blocking myself on getting lower elements of the stack in, but I think I'm just going to one-off push lower packages rather than wait) | 15:42 |
| mterry | EOF | 15:42 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks (do you want people to play with the qml greeter/test it?) | 15:43 |
| desrt | seb128: hi from the lounge :) | 15:43 |
| seb128 | desrt, hey ;-) | 15:43 |
| mterry | seb128, naw | 15:43 |
| mterry | seb128, not yet | 15:43 |
| mterry | seb128, though it is in ppa:mterry/ppa | 15:44 |
| mterry | seb128, as qml-phone-greeter, but it's not really ready for mass use | 15:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 15:44 |
| seb128 | mterry, thanks | 15:44 |
| seb128 | robru, hey | 15:44 |
| robru | hello | 15:44 |
| robru | (this goes back two weeks since I missed last week's meeting) | 15:44 |
| robru | * stop putting html in notifications, that's unsupported | 15:44 |
| robru | * truncate long messages in friends-app display, detruncating when clicked on. | 15:44 |
| robru | * extract our db schema into a CSV that can be parsed externally. now it is not hard-coded in two different places. | 15:44 |
| robru | * fix up consistency of link display in friends-app | 15:44 |
| robru | * ensure that db values get updated correctly when liking/unliking | 15:44 |
| robru | * forward-ported spacebar-scrolling patch which was user-submitted but allowed to bitrot to an embarrassing degree, twice. | 15:44 |
| robru | * urlencode URLs properly when sending them for shortening. allows URLs containing + sign to get shortened | 15:44 |
| robru | * workaround for old avatars getting lost into the ether forever | 15:44 |
| robru | * fixed up all of flickr, which was mysteriously very broken | 15:44 |
| robru | * tons of work on friends/trunk-next, which will land in S cycle. | 15:44 |
| robru | - dropped a bunch of ugly quantal-compatibility code | 15:44 |
| robru | - streamlined hundreds of lines of boilerplate out of the urlshortening logic | 15:44 |
| robru | - all kinds of exciting new features that I am eager to land | 15:44 |
| didrocks | robru: nice work on the friends stuff! I guess your next weeks will be more focus on phablet components though, right? ;) | 15:45 |
| seb128 | robru, sorry for the late email last week about DST | 15:45 |
| robru | seb128, no worries | 15:45 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, robru: yeah, nice work on friends and getting the new stack in raring ;-) | 15:46 |
| robru | seb128, didrocks : thanks. I wish our users were as excited :-/ | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | thx | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | i've seen lots of excitement on g+ :) | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | which of course we can't view in friends | 15:46 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 15:46 |
| robru | kenvandine, yeah. lots of the recent bugs filed are quite negative about some features we've lost in the transition... | 15:47 |
| seb128 | robru, kenvandine: I guess the phablet components are next on the landing list as didrocks pointed it, right? ;-) | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | i just did share-app :) | 15:47 |
| robru | seb128, didrocks : yes I intend to work more on the phablet stuff, but I am blocked on a lot of it | 15:47 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, great | 15:47 |
| seb128 | robru, what is blocking? libhybris? | 15:48 |
| didrocks | robru: blocked how? | 15:48 |
| didrocks | robru: like, see the hangouts, you can talk to the rest of the team or upstream ;) | 15:48 |
| robru | didrocks, well i already sent you that email about how camera-app builds but won't run | 15:48 |
| didrocks | robru: yeah, but you don't only have camera-app to bootstrap :) | 15:48 |
| didrocks | robru: and pinging upstream about it, I think those kind of issues is fixable within a day or two | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | robru has a pile of SRUs for quantal to do too :) | 15:49 |
| robru | I have like 30 SRUs. no joke | 15:49 |
| didrocks | webapps? | 15:49 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:50 |
| didrocks | well, if you have pushed for having daily release sooner, that would be automagic :p | 15:50 |
| didrocks | (still not btw) | 15:50 |
| kenvandine | robru, did the bugs get filed for those yet? | 15:50 |
| robru | kenvandine, yeah, alex filed the bugs, I targetted them to quantal, but I'm still waiting for alex to push the release tarballs so that I can update the quantal-proposed branches | 15:50 |
| didrocks | robru: if the SRUs are not security fixes, we should really target touch first | 15:50 |
| didrocks | like as told the other day, I think we should have everything ready and daily releasing by the end of next week | 15:51 |
| didrocks | so that sergio can build the image from the ppa | 15:51 |
| cyphermox | I'm here ;) | 15:51 |
| didrocks | (as it's what jasoncwarner_ and rick agreed on) | 15:51 |
| kenvandine | at least a couple of them are related to the firefox update | 15:51 |
| didrocks | robru: anyway, if you are blocked on anything that is not fixable, please do not hesitate to ping me | 15:52 |
| didrocks | thanks robru | 15:52 |
| seb128 | robru, didrocks, kenvandine: thanks | 15:52 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, hey | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - The Linux Foundation (and so OpenPrinting) is accepted for the Google Summer of Code 2013. So students will help us to get printing working better. | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Fixed several bugs to make the legacy CUPS broadcasting/browsing and BrowsePoll support in cups-browsed actually working, let postinst script overtake BrowsePoll and other configuration directives from cupsd.conf to cups-browsed.conf. | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - splix: Fixed bug which broke printing from iOS devices. | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - Tests done to help on getting a mobile broadband modem working: LP: #1164023 | 15:52 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1164023 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "modem-manager crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc() - REGRESSION: No internet access via mobile broadband" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1164023 | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - Added section "Getting the data which would go to the printer", "Sending a file to the printer unfiltered", and "PostScript (PDF) printer chokes on the PostScript (PDF) coming from Ubuntu" to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems | 15:52 |
| tkamppeter | - I cannot join UDS May, they put it exactly in sync with OpenPrinting Summit (May 14-17). | 15:52 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, ok, no worry for UDS, we can schedule a google hangout session out of the UDS days if there is a topic we need to discuss | 15:53 |
| bdrung | Sweetshark: spelling-error-in-changelog reenable re-enable | 15:53 |
| seb128 | tkamppeter, thanks | 15:53 |
| seb128 | attente, hey | 15:54 |
| attente | seb128, hey | 15:55 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, (going back you next) | 15:55 |
| attente | continued work on indicator-keyboard, packaging and getting it into a ppa for initial testing | 15:55 |
| attente | .. | 15:55 |
| seb128 | attente, do you want test from others or not yet? | 15:55 |
| desrt | attente: did you take a depend on the new GIcon API, and how do you intend to manage that from the PPA? | 15:56 |
| attente | seb128, it's still pretty immature, but it's here if anyone wants to try it: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/indicator-keyboard | 15:56 |
| seb128 | attente, ok, thanks | 15:56 |
| attente | desrt, it doesn't yet, i'm going to upload a new glib with your patches | 15:57 |
| desrt | attente: i remembered something that might have an impact on you | 15:57 |
| desrt | it's nice if you put GIcons into your menu and send them out over dbus... | 15:57 |
| desrt | but you're also going to need a new gtk in order to turn those GIcons into icons on the menu on the other side (in the panel) | 15:57 |
| seb128 | desrt, I see what you are doing there :p | 15:58 |
| seb128 | desrt, I'm not backporting gtk 3.10 to raring! :p | 15:58 |
| attente | lol | 15:58 |
| desrt | seb128: i was going to recommend backporting the patches :p | 15:58 |
| desrt | and afaik, attente's work is not cleared to land in raring | 15:58 |
| seb128 | no, it's "s" material | 15:59 |
| desrt | so we'll have new gtk there probably | 15:59 |
| desrt | else, we backport | 15:59 |
| desrt | meanwhile he'll need some way to manage it for the PPA | 15:59 |
| desrt | so i'll probably write this patch when i am on the plane | 15:59 |
| seb128 | desrt, attente: thanks, let's try to get glib/gtk patches earlier in "s", having to rebase glib/gtk in a ppa is often a fail | 15:59 |
| seb128 | like the menu stuff in the desktop ppa this cycle... (another one to land early in "s") | 15:59 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, back to you if you are there | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | yup | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - looks like we'll be able to finish hud/phablet preparing today, and merge into hud and enable daily release to a PPA. | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - phablet-tools is also ready for daily release, just needs to be enabled | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - I figured out how to make bluetooth work on the Nexus4, it's somewhat different than on the nexus7, and planning a way to make both work with somewhat the same methods so that it can be hooked up to UI. | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - fixing some tests in NM with the help of pitti. | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - about to upload more ModemManager fixes | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | - debugged an issue with / being busy at shutdown, I can now say it's not NM's fault but pinpointing it to the exact package is difficult, I'll file the bug this afternoon with the info I have now. | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | hopefully it's not something that was just fixed... | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | EOF | 16:00 |
| didrocks | \o/ hud and lihud-qt ;) | 16:00 |
| didrocks | thanks cyphermox ;) | 16:00 |
| cyphermox | yeah libhud-qt too ;) | 16:00 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, bluetooth on the devices \o/ | 16:01 |
| desrt | for me (quickly since flight is boarding now): dealt with falling rocks wrt. glib interface changes and c++/c# bindings | 16:01 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, thanks | 16:01 |
| seb128 | desrt, you were next | 16:01 |
| desrt | did a lot of pinging over account service maintainership stuff, and had a false-start on a patch that hopefully we don't need since new upstream maintainers are promising to be more-friendly | 16:01 |
| seb128 | desrt, I just pushed the glib patches to the desktop ppa, will upload to raring tomorrow if everything is ok | 16:01 |
| desrt | did a lot of final-details planning for the fd.o sprint | 16:01 |
| desrt | did some changes to gmenu in the name of efficiency | 16:01 |
| desrt | and am now quite close to closing the story on gicon-in-gmenu | 16:02 |
| desrt | that's about all | 16:02 |
| desrt | it wasn't the most productive week just because of all the pinging/organisational stuff | 16:02 |
| seb128 | desrt, thanks, have a safe trip, talk to you on sane work hours in the next days ;-) | 16:02 |
| desrt | 'sane' | 16:02 |
| desrt | pfft | 16:02 |
| desrt | ciao :) | 16:02 |
| seb128 | bye | 16:03 |
| seb128 | so me | 16:03 |
| * desrt will probably be on again in a few hours from EWR | 16:03 | |
| seb128 | - desktop updates and bug fixes for raring | 16:03 |
| seb128 | - started looking a bit more into the plans for system settings and indicators for next cycles/ubuntu touch | 16:03 |
| seb128 | - reviewed active blueprints, cleaned quite some workitems for the team, we are still behind trend but closer | 16:03 |
| seb128 | - helped testing the new unity and tracking down failing tests to unblock raring landing | 16:03 |
| seb128 | </summary> | 16:03 |
| seb128 | 16:03 | |
| seb128 | did I forgot anyone? | 16:03 |
| seb128 | ok, not | 16:04 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, qengho, didrocks, Laney, kenvandine, mlankhorst, mterry, robru, tkamppeter, attente, desrt, cyphermox: quick topic, meeting time | 16:04 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 16:04 |
| seb128 | robru pointed that he would prefer staying on UTC time | 16:04 |
| seb128 | e.g shifting one hour later | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | i would too | 16:04 |
| seb128 | but that put us late for Europeans | 16:04 |
| kenvandine | ah | 16:04 |
| seb128 | it means finishing at 7:30pm | 16:05 |
| qengho | Ow. | 16:05 |
| mterry | yikes | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | i just prefer not accounting for DST, etc | 16:05 |
| seb128 | or 7pm if we are quick | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | that's too late | 16:05 |
| qengho | robru: is what, UTC+30 or something? | 16:05 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:05 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 16:05 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, you would prefer having the meeting later then? | 16:06 |
| kenvandine | no, just tracking some time that is UTC | 16:07 |
| qengho | I don't want it to shift to 25 minutes in the future from now, FWIW, but it's not a strong opinion. | 16:07 |
| seb128 | is anyone having a "too early" issue with the current time? | 16:07 |
| robru | is there no other time that works for everybody? I guess european morningtime is too late for north americans... | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | i'm ok with my local time of the meeting changes, just prefer to have 1 stable time to track it | 16:07 |
| qengho | I'm all for ignoring DST, though. | 16:07 |
| kenvandine | not me | 16:07 |
| seb128 | qengho, kenvandine, robru, cyphermox, attente, desrt: ^ guess that's an U.S continent question | 16:08 |
| robru | I would rather have the meeting at local midnight than local 8Am ;-) | 16:08 |
| cyphermox | current time is best for me | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | yeah, google calendar can handle telling me when the meeting is if it is UTC time :) | 16:08 |
| cyphermox | just before lunch, basically | 16:08 |
| mterry | This current time isn't too early for me | 16:08 |
| didrocks | current time is better for me as well | 16:08 |
| Laney | me too | 16:08 |
| kenvandine | later would be to hard on the .eu folks | 16:08 |
| robru | maybe I'll just mail my summary in the night before ;-) | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | which there are many of | 16:09 |
| tkamppeter | I like to keep the current time, too 5:30pm in my local time is absolutely OK. | 16:09 |
| seb128 | yeah, I would prefer avoiding conflicting with dinner time | 16:09 |
| seb128 | and finishing at 7:30pm is a bit late, especially for those who start the day early | 16:09 |
| seb128 | ok, let's stay on the current time then | 16:09 |
| robru | ok, well if we can't shift the time, can we at least pin the time on current UTC? it will be more predictable that way | 16:09 |
| seb128 | robru, feel free to join the eastern meeting if that works better for you | 16:09 |
| Nafallo | split into one european and one american? :-) | 16:10 |
| seb128 | though it's mostly Xorg oriented, you probably have more topic for that meeting | 16:10 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, qengho, didrocks, Laney, kenvandine, mlankhorst, mterry, robru, tkamppeter, attente, desrt, cyphermox: anyone having an issue having the time set on UTC? | 16:10 |
| robru | seb128, I looked into that one once and it was like 3AM :_) | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | better for me | 16:10 |
| seb128 | would be one hour earlier in the day in winter | 16:10 |
| didrocks | fine with me ;) | 16:10 |
| chrisccoulson | you could just move to a normal timezone :P | 16:10 |
| robru | noooooo | 16:10 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ;-) | 16:11 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 16:11 |
| cyphermox | yeah it's fine | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | robru, no... it is like 6:30 pm for me | 16:11 |
| robru | you guys should all come visit me. you won't want to leave after ;-) | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | so mid afternoon for you | 16:11 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks everyone | 16:11 |
| qengho | robru: Maybe you can talk seb into pasting yours from the wiki page. | 16:11 |
| seb128 | we stay on current time | 16:11 |
| seb128 | and stick to UTC | 16:11 |
| kenvandine | great! | 16:11 |
| seb128 | (will be one hour earlier in the day next winter) | 16:11 |
| seb128 | any other topic | 16:11 |
| seb128 | questions/comments? | 16:11 |
| robru | seb128, ok, so what is the official canonical meeting time? 1600UTC? | 16:11 |
| Laney | 1630 | 16:12 |
| seb128 | 15h30 UTC | 16:12 |
| didrocks | 1530UTC | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | 1330UTC | 16:12 |
| Laney | -1 | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | whoops | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | 1530 | 16:12 |
| Laney | haha | 16:12 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:12 |
| robru | ok | 16:12 |
| didrocks | seb128: see, only the French are right! :) | 16:12 |
| kenvandine | so 8:30 for you robru | 16:12 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I was going to say | 16:12 |
| qengho | Metric system superioirty | 16:12 |
| didrocks | clearly… | 16:12 |
| seb128 | ok, that's a wrap then | 16:13 |
| seb128 | thanks everyone | 16:13 |
| Laney | thanks! | 16:14 |
| didrocks | thanks! | 16:14 |
| didrocks | robru: hey, so you had questions on the email, mind having them here (or in a hangout if you prefer?) | 16:14 |
| seb128 | oh, and please clean your workitems/postpone the ones you will not get to | 16:14 |
| robru | didrocks, yeah, you said you were going to explain something about autolanding? | 16:14 |
| Nafallo | seb128: you ignored me :-( | 16:15 |
| Nafallo | ;-) | 16:15 |
| didrocks | robru: oh yeah, we can webbrowser-app together | 16:15 |
| seb128 | Nafallo, splitting the meeting in european and american? yeah, was a good one to ignore ;-) | 16:15 |
| mitya57 | attente: trying to build indicator-keyboard, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5692747/ | 16:15 |
| robru | ugh.... google calendar is very confused. it thinks this meeting is always 10:30 AM this week, and always 8:30 Am the following week (regardless of what week I am looking at) | 16:16 |
| mitya57 | perhaps insufficient build-deps? | 16:16 |
| didrocks | robru: prefer a hangout? I don't mind if you have your breakfast/tea at the same time as long as you are eating French bread of course :) | 16:16 |
| attente | mitya57, it requires a new ibus | 16:16 |
| robru | didrocks, I am all out of french bread ;-) | 16:16 |
| robru | didrocks, ok, do a hangout | 16:16 |
| attente | i have it in this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/indicator-keyboard | 16:16 |
| * Laney invites robru to his one :P | 16:17 | |
| mitya57 | attente: that's what I meant by "insufficient build-deps" :) | 16:17 |
| mitya57 | thanks for working on it btw! | 16:17 |
| attente | ah, sorry | 16:17 |
| didrocks | robru: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d47fb833ed9891c4276980dd00dc9cb5a65f7582?authuser=0&hl=fr | 16:17 |
| attente | you're right | 16:17 |
| Nafallo | seb128: lol. meanie ;-) | 16:17 |
| robru | didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/webbrowser-app/bootstrap/+merge/157911 | 16:38 |
| didrocks | robru: https://launchpad.net/cupstream2distro-config | 16:39 |
| Nafallo | Laney: oooh. quick work. cheers! :-) | 16:40 |
| robru | didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/cupstream2distro-config/webbrowser-app/+merge/157917 | 16:54 |
| cecylia | Please someone to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sessioninstaller/+bug/1049467 | 17:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1049467 in sessioninstaller (Ubuntu) "Multimedia codec installer says "Python", rather than the name of the process/application (e.g. Rhythmbox, Videos) that requested the codec." [High,Confirmed] | 17:38 |
| mlankhorst | oh back | 17:39 |
| robru | didrocks, bah, purging all those PPAs made me lose libhud-qt-qml, so I can't run camera-app anymore. but I guess tomorrow I will be able to continue pursuing this with a more pristine installation ;-) | 17:49 |
| didrocks | robru: yeah, sounds like a better plan to me :) | 17:49 |
| robru | didrocks, ok, I must grab some breakfast, then when I get back I have over 100 emails to read ;-) | 17:49 |
| robru | bye | 17:49 |
| didrocks | robru: I hope with bread! ttyl ;) | 17:49 |
| robru | (I think they are all bug reports for friends ;-) | 17:49 |
| === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|lunch | ||
| === padv_ is now known as dfsdlgkl | ||
| * didrocks waves good evening | 18:13 | |
| === padv_ is now known as dfsdlgkl | ||
| === jhodapp|lunch is now known as jhodapp | ||
| === racarr is now known as racarr|curry | ||
| === racarr|curry is now known as racarr | ||
| dobey | robert_ancell: hey. is there any way to make lightdm use "extended display" mode instead of "mirror display" that doesn't involve making it run a script that runs xrandr stuff on startup? | 20:43 |
| bryce | dobey, you mean like setting it in your xorg.conf? | 20:55 |
| bryce | (if so, the answer is yes!) | 20:55 |
| dobey | bryce: uhm, without creating an xorg.conf either? | 21:00 |
| Sarvatt | dobey: org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xrandr default-monitors-setup theoretically, except they based the extend mode being default thing on a fedora only xserver patch :) | 21:04 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, in unity-greeter? | 21:05 |
| dobey | robert_ancell: yeah | 21:05 |
| robert_ancell | dobey, OK. LightDM isn't involve in the monitor layout so you either set the X default as bryce said or you configure it for the lightdm user (which is what the greeter runs as) as Sarvatt said | 21:06 |
| ogra_ | except the except ... | 21:07 |
| Sarvatt | it's only default to extend mode in fedora via http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/xorg-x11-server.git/tree/xserver-1.6.99-right-of.patch , xserver defaults to mirror for everyone else but the g-s-d option is based on the fedora changes | 21:08 |
| dobey | and that change is in Ubuntu, because Fedora works so well with upstreams, right? right? | 21:10 |
| ogra_ | hey, at least we can strike back with a Mir only patch :P | 21:10 |
| Sarvatt | dobey: we can pick it up next cycle, too late for raring so xorg.conf it is :( | 21:12 |
| dobey | Sarvatt: i would much prefer "magic" and no config at all :) | 21:15 |
| bryce | dobey, this just for your local system or for putting in the distro, or...? (usecase time...) | 21:15 |
| bryce | if you're not entirely anti-config file solutions, you can also set a system level monitors.xml file | 21:16 |
| dobey | bryce: well, on my system, but useful for everyone i think. i currently have a temporary video card to get multi-head working, until my intel kernel bug gets fixed. so when i pull the current card to test intel, i don't want to end up with a broken config that i have to tweak just to test the system. so i really want to avoid any config that specifies which hardware/outputs are used | 21:18 |
| ogra_ | funnily that problem doesnt arise if you use one of the proprietary drivers with their config gui tools ... | 21:18 |
| bryce | maybe at /etc/gnome-settings-daemon/xrandr/monitors.xml or some permutation | 21:19 |
| bryce | dobey, yet another option is xorg.conf.d snippets. but I think the system level monitors.xml is the style of magic you're looking for. Just copy ~/.config/monitors.xml to the above path, reboot and see if it works. | 21:21 |
| dobey | bryce: hrmm, that might be halfway acceptable for now. looks like it does have the correct config for both GPUs | 21:24 |
| bryce | dobey, as to making it work for everyone... making X do extended by default is not hard, however there's corner cases where that can leave the user with a bad experience (or worse), which is why it's mirrored. | 21:26 |
| dobey | well, maybe Mir/Wayland will be able to handle that better | 21:29 |
| dobey | hopefully | 21:29 |
| dobey | will not be great for the whole "converged" experience if they can't | 21:29 |
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| bryce | dobey, totally agreed. | 21:43 |
| dobey | anyone know where /usr/share/unity-scopes/scope-runner-dbus.py comes from for the hundred scopes stuff? | 22:02 |
| === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha | ||
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