[00:18] Iiinteresting. [00:18] Release.gpg exists in /var/lib/apt/lists/ _until_ I run do-release-upgrade. [00:19] And the extra ---- GPG stuff creeps into Release on the client. The server doesn't have it (as expected). [00:19] perhaps do-release-upgrade is broken in Lucid [00:22] Plouj: does just 'apt-get update' do that? [00:35] sarnold: no [00:35] not from a fresh install, at least [01:20] infinity: linux-ppc coming in 5 minutes [01:24] BenC: Cool, sagari's all yours. [01:24] BenC: Did you manage to get anyone from IBM or Freescale (or elsewhere) to bite on the importance of a V8 port, by the way? [01:25] infinity: it's been brought up at some high level discussions... [01:25] BenC: chrome and nodejs were bad enough, but losing fundamental bits of QT5 as well is getting a bit ridiculous. [01:25] waiting to see how that pans out [01:25] infinity: Ick, I hadn't heard about QT5+v8 [01:25] That's sub par for sure [01:26] Maybe this will finally spur someone to do a generic C port or something. [01:31] infinity: upload away... [01:34] a/wg 66 [01:34] oops [01:47] * infinity eyes component-mismatches suspiciously. [01:55] That is a bit odd. Regression from the latest commit? I can't see why, though. [02:09] cjwatson: Talking about c-m's kernel hatred, or something else? [02:12] cjwatson: Oh, I see. It learned about pockets. Not immediately obvious why that would break udebs, though. [02:16] + if options.suite != pocket: [02:16] + suite = "%s-%s" % (options.suite, pocket) [02:16] + else: [02:16] + suite = options.suite [02:17] Isn't that always going to rewrite raring to raring-release? [02:18] Or to "raring-", perhaps? I dunno. [02:25] Oh, no. Hrm. [04:07] mhall119: the ubuntu-ui-toolkit uploads have been prepared for automation, but the automated uploads will probably be only enabled after S begins. we need to figure out whether we upload 0.1.40 to raring or even newer. [05:50] xnox: slangasek: not sure how you deal with your WI on the fundation team, but please, do not set them to "DONE" when there are still some work to do on https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuDk72Lpx8U5dFVVX1BOYm1qdUtyX2xUNmdwWlhTS0E#gid=0 in term of tests [05:51] xnox: should I revert your WI on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-delivering-touch-apps-to-raring so that we have a real view of what's need to be done? [06:23] ... [06:23] I just upgraded and rebooted and my global menus are gone. [06:24] infinity: \o/ ? [06:25] lifeless: Well, given that 99% of my windows are terminals, and I just turned the menu off instead, I don't care much, but I imagine it points to a bug somewhere. :P [06:25] didrocks: ^-- Thoughts? [06:26] infinity: I didn't restart since my upgrade, but seeing that only Unity was reviewed in the last 24 hours (we still have a lot of things stuck in unapproved…), I doubt there is a change [06:26] let me try a guest session [06:26] didrocks: I haven't rebooted in about a month, so I'm not really the best bisection candidate. [06:26] infinity,didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1165436 [06:26] Error: launchpad bug 1165436 not found [06:26] didrocks: But all my menus have gone application-local. [06:26] sarnold: no access to it [06:26] *sigh* moment.. [06:27] Scratch that. All my gtk3 menus, maybe? Firefox's is still global. [06:27] infinity: you did try gedit or something like that? [06:27] infinity,didrocks fixed.. [06:27] didrocks: gedit, pidgin, gnome-terminal: all local menus. firefox: global. [06:28] sarnold: not really helpful but report :/ [06:28] the auto-translation is supremely rough, but it sounds like the same problem to me. [06:28] sarnold: Oh, I was hoping that bug would be informative. :P [06:28] didrocks: hehe, yeah, it -does- lack a bit in details. [06:29] infinity: it does add one bit of data though -- it's not just you :) [06:29] * infinity wonders if he has anything QTish installed to confirm this "only gtk3" suspicion. [06:29] Good morning [06:29] hey pitti [06:30] Hey pitti! [06:30] dkms running… [06:30] Hrm, no, mumble is QT and it's also got local menus. [06:31] So firefox is just special? [06:31] Oh, wait, it does global menus differently, doesn't it? [06:31] Firefox has a plugin for it [06:32] infinity: justr tried a guest, working and restarted my own session, still working [06:32] tjaalton: can do; do you know of some demo program that also exercises that particular effect (blur?) which upstream may have for reproducing? [06:32] *grump* [06:33] didrocks: Is there a sane way to trace what might be going on here? [06:33] infinity: it's weird you are getting firefox though, because this would mean /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service is running [06:33] 2690 ? Sl 0:00 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application-service [06:33] as well as /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service [06:33] Indeed it is. [06:34] Not that I know what that means. [06:34] infinity: do you have the same in a guest? [06:34] pitti: I've filed it already: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63283 [06:34] Freedesktop bug 63283 in Drivers/DRI/i965 "blur performance regressed on ILK" [Normal,New] [06:34] tjaalton: ah, thanks [06:34] pitti: not sure about the demo, I'll check [06:34] didrocks: I don't have the guest account enabled. Would take some violence to test that. [06:35] infinity: as you are never rebooting, you maybe have some dbus protocol mismatch, but in the last day, only unity change and nothing close to that code [06:35] infinity: I would be interested in a new session test [06:35] didrocks: But I'll hazard a guess that if it doesn't happen for you, it also wouldn't for me. [06:35] didrocks: I never reboot, until today. Which is when I saw it. [06:35] tjaalton: subscribed, thanks; I can test patches [06:36] pitti: nice. no news on that front yet I'm afraid :) [06:36] infinity: I'm still puzzled that firefox is working for you… [06:36] didrocks: It's the only thing that is... [06:37] Oh, and LibreOffice too. Just tested. [06:37] But same story there, right? Firefox and LibreOffice both do global menus via different paths than "normal" applications, right? [06:38] well, they have different hooks [06:38] but the unity part is the same [06:39] so I would guess you have something in your gtk3 and qt patches [06:39] Okay, more confusion. [06:39] About Computer gives me global menus. [06:39] That didn't really match the pattern. [06:40] yeah, it's gnome-control-center which is a gtk3 application [06:40] * infinity scratches his head. [06:40] Yeah, hence the confusion. Should behave the same as gnome-terminal and pidgin, one would assume. [06:40] And gedit. [06:40] And it doesn't. [06:40] Argh. [06:41] didrocks: I can try a clean session in a sec, but if that works (and it probably does), there's something very strange going on here in some profile/settings upgrade... [06:42] infinity: there is nothing to do with any settings or profile written anywhere, that's why I'm puzzled [06:43] it's just a gtk appmenu plugin which is loaded if on the disk… [06:44] * infinity adds a new user and logs out. [06:47] didrocks: Huh. Fresh user, same problem. [06:47] interesting, and gnome-control-center is still showing the exported menu? [06:47] didrocks: So, apart from disabling guest, the only other GUI-related tweak I've done on a system level is disabling overlay scrollbars. I can't imagine that would have such a strange effect, though? [06:48] infinity: I doubt it would impact it, but that's interesting, because both applications don't use the same GTK API [06:48] didrocks: Yeah, g-c-c and firefox still DTRT, gnome-terminal and gedit not. [06:48] infinity: you do have the global menu for nautilus? [06:48] didrocks: nautilus is global. [06:48] ok, so you "only" don't have them for the apps using appmenu-gtk3 library [06:49] infinity: I bet appmenu-gtk3 is installed, right? [06:49] It sure isn't. [06:49] oh? [06:49] well, that's your answer though [06:49] then* [06:50] (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~$ reverse-depends appmenu-gtk3 [06:50] Reverse-Recommends [06:50] ================== [06:50] * indicator-appmenu [06:50] * kubuntu-desktop [06:50] * kubuntu-full [06:50] That doesn't seem like it would pull it in... [06:50] And certainly not guarantee it. [06:50] infinity: indicator-appmenu is installed by default, isn't it? [06:51] it recommends all the qt and gtk bindings [06:51] Yes, and installed. And I generally upgrade with recommends, but there may have been resolver pain that caused it to not get installed. [06:51] The only one I have installed is appmenu-qt5 [06:51] infinity: possible, well, rather something which removed it I guess :) [06:52] ok, you need the 3 others for gtk2, 3, qt4 [06:52] (gtk3 without) [06:52] (gtk3 without the new GNOME api) [06:52] which is the case for gnome-terminal and gedit for instance [06:52] I'm not the only person this happened to, so there must be a bit of a hiccup here. [06:52] yeah, once some people are making upgrade testing, I'll look at that closely [06:53] Doesn't jibel run upgrade testing constantly now? [06:53] infinity: you need to logout/login back or export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY="libappmenu.so" to your apps for having the library loaded [06:53] Anyhow, installed the lot here. [06:53] (it's in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80appmenu-gtk3) [06:53] I'll log out. :P [06:54] ok ;) [06:59] didrocks: So, yeah. All fixed. But clearly not a happy upgrade. [07:00] infinity: yeah, would be interesting so see what upgrade path concluded to removing those modules, especially as there is no particular conflicts/breaks against them AFAIK [07:02] * infinity goes crosseyed reading apt history logs. [07:03] didrocks: So, it's pooooossible I did this to myself. [07:04] infinity: oh? you hated them? and forgot about it? :p [07:04] didrocks: No, I think I was going on an "autoremove doesn't remove enough crap" rampage, judging from my apt history. [07:04] ah, here we go ;-) [07:04] And they got caught in the crossfire. :P [07:04] heh [07:05] Doesn't explain the entertainingly-worded bug, but it explains mine. [07:05] infinity: oh, I know why it's working for g-c-c and nautilus [07:05] infinity: it's because, GNOME has a new "global menu API" [07:05] and we hook into it [07:05] not all apps transitionned to it though [07:05] Ahh. [07:05] but for those, it's built-in gtk3 [07:06] no need for a 3rd party module [07:28] good morning [07:39] good morning [07:40] bad usb-creator [07:41] fails to empty a usb-stick with raring installer on it [07:43] tjaalton: is it using udisks1? [07:44] zyga: looks like it, and the error seemed udisks-y [07:45] tjaalton: I mean udisks1 vs udisks2 [07:45] it depends on udisks, not udisks2 [07:45] tjaalton: I wonder if that is caused by the fact that gvfs is using udisks2 and certain events are no longer emitted through udisks1 dbus [07:45] tjaalton: right === smb` is now known as smb [07:47] so it didn't get ported, and is installed by default [07:48] yes [07:48] it could still work fine [07:48] since udisks1 still works fine [07:48] but there are some subtle differences in behavior [07:49] just because other pieces of the desktop use udisk2 instead of udisks1 [07:52] it's bug 1160035 [07:52] bug 1160035 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Startup Disk Creator unable to format USB drive - Error modifying partition: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_change_partition" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1160035 [08:00] actually no, my error is different [08:02] doko_, hey, could you have a look at bug 1165172 [08:02] bug 1165172 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "upgrade 12.10 -> 13.04 fails : new libpython2.7-minimal used during upgrade while libpython2.7-stdlib is not yet unpacked and configured." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165172 === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:34] didrocks: platform-api is in the daily landing PPA. Sensors are not yet. I've set them to DONE/INPROGRESS. Or do you want them both INPROGRESS? [08:36] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Final Beta Freeze | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: xnox [08:37] xnox: I would like INPROGRESS if possible, I added some coments to the spreasheet ;) [08:37] xnox: so that DONE really means "nothing else to be left to do" [08:37] xnox: do you mind answering to my questions on the spreadsheet between 2 sponsosrings? [08:41] didrocks: spreadsheets have comments =) ok will asnwer them. [08:41] thanks! === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === security is now known as megha [09:47] does pbuilder safely survive a laptop suspend in raring? [09:48] why wouldn't it? [09:48] it seems fine, just kept chugging along... wondering if I should suspect the build [09:48] m_3: do you mean a pbuilder build in progress? Should be fine [09:48] mlankhorst: dunno, just never suspended with it before and was windering [09:48] cool [09:48] thanks! [09:48] if your system survives a suspend, userspace should not notice a thing from suspend [09:50] ack [09:50] time skew + network going away and returning [09:50] quite noticable if anything is looking for it - but nothing should be [09:50] time skew is forward time skew, though [09:50] yes [09:50] and network outage can happen without suspend too [09:51] yup [09:51] just saying, it is noticable if anything cares [09:52] meh personally I do echo mem > /sys/power/state; /etc/init.d/fancontrol restart [09:53] I keep hoping that nouveau survives, I haven't nailed down why it doesn't yet :( [10:06] When debian/source/options contains single-debian-patch, is it acceptable to remove that file to introduce an Ubuntu delta? [10:10] pitti: ping [10:10] hello zyga [10:10] pitti: is this section of the upstart cookbook no longer accurate after we moved to logind: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#run-a-job-when-a-user-logs-in [10:10] pitti: it mentions start on dbus-activation org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit [10:11] rbasak: why would you want to? [10:11] zyga: indeed; but that seems wrong even now [10:11] mlankhorst: to keep the Ubuntu delta in a separate patch, so it's easier to merge in future? [10:11] pitti: ah, I thought so [10:11] consolekit is being called/used way before the first user logs in [10:11] oh sure [10:12] zyga: one needs to actually listen for CK's/logind's signals for new sessions, or query for current sessions, not just check when the service gets activated [10:12] though can't you just explicitly create ubuntu patches for the delta? [10:12] pitti: I think the actual answer is 'it depends and it is complicated' [10:12] pitti: the cookbook should be corrected though, it can lead people to do wrong stuff [10:12] mlankhorst: I did but dpkg-source squashed them into the single patch and then the build got confused by trying to double apply it. Removing single-debian-patch from source/options fixes that problem [10:12] * zyga tries to recall james hunt's IRC nickname [10:13] zyga: jodh [10:13] ah [10:13] thanks [10:13] jodh: hey [10:14] zyga: hi [10:14] jodh: pitti and I think that one section of the upstart cookbook is incorrect [10:15] zyga: feel free to raise a bug with details. [10:15] jodh: thanks [10:16] jodh: do you know of a way to start a job after a server is initialized, is that also runlevel=2 in practice? [10:16] brendand: ^^ [10:17] zyga: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#normal-start [10:18] thanks [10:19] pitti, jodh: reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart-cookbook/+bug/1166708 [10:19] Launchpad bug 1166708 in Upstart Cookbook "Incorrect hint on how to start a job when user logs in" [Undecided,New] [10:19] zyga: thanks [10:20] zyga: FYI, we didn't move to logind yet (denied FFE) [10:20] jodh, will that guarentee that a network connection is in place when the job starts? [10:20] jodh, i.e. what are 'basic' services [10:20] pitti: oh, too bad [10:21] pitti: well, -s is just a few moments away [10:21] pitti: -s will be pretty cool I think [10:21] yeah, I plan to do the migration on the sprint, when I can get a hold of Robert for logind, etc. [10:21] brendand: runlevel gets emitted after the last static i/f is up. I admit it's a bit terse, but this is all documented in upstart-events(7). [10:23] jodh, so using 'start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE!=lo)' is okay? [10:23] brendand: maybe this should be discussed on #upstart? What are you actually truing to do? [10:25] brendand: the fact that network is up, configured and one has ipaddress does not mean one can access the internet though... [10:26] xnox, we don't need to access the internet :) [10:26] * brendand moving this to #upstart === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === doko_ is now known as doko === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [11:25] xnox: I uploaded a fixed apturl for bug 1103024 now [11:25] bug 1103024 in apturl (Ubuntu Raring) "apturl-gtk crashed with TypeError in _on_finished(): 5 parameters needed for signal action-done; 3 given" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1103024 [11:26] seb128: do you see any reason to keep ubuntu-system-service in raring? [11:26] pitti: interesting, thanks. i will have a look. [11:27] pitti, not if we don't "fix" gnome-control-center to add back the "set proxy" feature [11:27] oh, right [11:27] "apt-cache rdepends ubuntu-system-service" doesn't have any remaining depends any mroe [11:29] pitti, right, and the archive grep didn't return anything else using the dbus api === dpm is now known as dpm-desktop === echevemaster is now known as echevemaster-afk === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [12:37] I thought we discouraged the use of aptitude on ubuntu...but I can't seem to find a relevant link...am I remembering wrong? [12:39] it was broken in the early multi-arch days, but should be fine again now [12:41] I seem to recall something about it not using the same dependency resolver, so it would do funny stuff on Ubuntu [12:42] it has its own dependency resolver, yes [12:42] but if it does "funny stuff" those are bugs === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:54] mdeslaur: I am an avid ex-user of aptitude, I stopped using it when multiarch landed. [12:55] mdeslaur: I remember during squeeze release somebody was doing upgrade tests with apt-get and aptitude and the two upgrades were not the same =/ [12:57] pitti, hi [12:57] hello tkamppeter [12:57] xnox: I guess I'm misremembering an official stance on it [12:58] pitti, do you have any idea what is happening with this bug: bug 1157972? === schmidtm__ is now known as schmidtm_ [12:58] bug 1157972 in cups (Ubuntu) "Cups overwrites config with no backup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157972 [12:59] the apport-collect was rather unhelpful [12:59] tkamppeter: but /etc/cups/printers.conf isn't even a conffile, so unless you added something to the postinst that would replace it, I have no idea [12:59] the description of the bug is rather vague [12:59] pitti, the user tells that his conffiles are overwritten without any backup and AFAIK dpkg always takes backups. The only place in the maintainer scripts where conffiles are actually removed is the purge section of postrm. [13:00] tkamppeter: printers.conf isn't handled by dpkg, it's not a conffile [13:00] xnox: same, also used to be an avid aptitude user. use it a lot less now. but of course the upgrades aren't going to be the same - the dependency problem is non-trivial... [13:00] pitti, and how can the update remove it then? [13:01] tkamppeter: as I said, no idea [13:01] pitti, (assuming that the purge section of postrm is not called on update). [13:03] pitti, as I have already checked the maintainer scripts that they do not touch printers.conf (except purge) it seems that I can safely ignore this bug as being noise. [13:03] tkamppeter: yes, I think so [13:03] @pilot out === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Final Beta Freeze | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: [13:05] pitti, another mysterium for me is that an update to a newer Ubuntu release removes cups-pdf (bug 987026). cups-pdf is not necessarily needed due to PDF output facilities already integrated in most desktop apps, but if a user installs it, it should stay on his system. [13:05] bug 987026 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "cups-pdf package removed at each ubuntu version upgrade" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/987026 [13:06] pitti, and there are no conflicts with cups-pdf defined in other packages, as the user can simply re-install cups-pdf. [13:08] tkamppeter, pitti : printers.conf disappears on cups downgrades. [13:08] tkamppeter, pitti: saw that but as we don't support downgrades, I've never investigated. [13:09] so perhaps its the daemon itself which removes printers.conf if it deems it incompatible? [13:09] OdyX, pitti, can it be that purge is called during a downgrade? [13:09] tkamppeter: that needs /var/log/dist-upgrade/ logs for debugging [13:10] tkamppeter: no: http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts#Downgrading [13:11] OdyX, pitti, if the daemon removes printers.conf (or any other conffile) this would be a severe upstream bug. This should get reported upstream. [13:15] OdyX, you should check error_log (in debug mode) to see whether CUPS tells there why it is removing print queues or why it is removing printers.conf altogether. [13:17] OdyX, perhaps bug 1157972 is the same problem. [13:17] bug 1157972 in cups (Ubuntu) "Cups overwrites config with no backup" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1157972 [13:24] pitti,is it possible to configure apport to report bugs for packages from alternative sources to a specific launchpad project? [13:25] jamespage: yes, quite a lot of packages do that [13:26] jamespage: see /usr/share/doc/apport/package-hooks.txt.gz (CrashDB field), and e. g. /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_linux-nexus7.py as an example [13:27] jamespage: you can also make a package hook which sends ubuntu reports for packages from ubuntu, and to an LP project if it comes from e. g. a PPA [13:28] pitti, I think its that second example I need; specifically I want to report bugs to the cloud-archive project for packages that come from http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ [13:39] ogasawara: don't make it too easy to contribute to the kernel, lest I may lose my fear completely :) [13:39] pitti: :) [13:52] tvoss, hi, I see you're the drafter of [13:53] mpt, yup [13:54] tvoss, in the description of the code I see mention of GPS. Would/will it use locations of wi-fi hotspots and cell tower locations as well? [13:54] mpt, it uses arbitrary location providers, but the client does not know about the actual provider [13:54] tvoss, I don't know what that means, sorry [13:54] What's a location provider? [13:57] mpt, gps, is a location provider, a wifi hotspot, glonass etc. [13:57] mpt, does that impact design? [13:58] tvoss, yes, it affects the text. For example, whether we need to tell people that location will be less accurate when wi-fi is off. [13:58] tvoss: will it tell the client precission? e.g. you are in london +/- 1km radius vs London Big Ben +/- 15m [13:59] mpt, hmmm, the text inside applications? [13:59] tvoss, no, in the System Settings panel. [14:00] Which I'm working on right now. :-) [14:01] xnox, that depends on the application, we will provide location updates, heading, velocity, and accuracies, plus geocoding capabilities [14:01] tvoss, I think you're using "accuracies" for what xnox meant by "precision" [14:02] ? [14:02] pitti, figured it out - thanks for the pointers [14:02] mpt: yes. and accuracy is more correct term anyway =) [14:03] mpt, ack, and for the system settings: As the list of location sources is not fixed, we would need to account for that, too, I guess [14:03] mpt, do you have a draft for the ui? [14:04] tvoss, what do you mean by "fixed"? Do you mean "decided yet", or "the same all the time"? [14:04] mpt, the same all the time/might differ per device [14:05] tvoss, as I say, I'm working on it right now. [14:05] mpt, okay [14:09] pitti, do you think my changes would be an acceptable SRU for apport in precise? I'm just defining a new crashdb and general-hook [14:12] @pilot in === udevbot changed the topic of #ubuntu-devel to: Ubuntu 12.10 released | Archive: Final Beta Freeze | Devel of Ubuntu (not support or app devel) | build failures -> http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ | #ubuntu for support and discussion of hardy -> quantal | #ubuntu-app-devel for app development on Ubuntu http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://bit.ly/lv8soi | Patch Pilots: sconklin === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark [14:46] dpm_: hey, i have a second mail that was in moderation that i sent last night after you went away. could you let it through? [14:46] dpm_: also, is there anyone else that can moderate that list, so i can poke them instead when you aren't around? :) [14:48] dobey, done [14:49] dpm: gracias [14:49] dobey, I'm thinking of sharing the moderation with other members of the translations community, but those who'd be good candidates are in similar time zones as I am [14:49] dobey, for now I'll whitelist you [14:50] dpm: ah ok, thanks [14:50] if someone has got a suggestion on how I can add a couple of filters to mailman for @ubuntu.com or @canonical.com e-mail addresses, I'd add those, which would make things easier [14:51] maybe barry knows something :) [14:51] * barry is sure he knows... something ;) [14:52] dpm: yes, you can whitelist all @ubuntu.com or @canonical.com, but you have to do it on a per-list basis [14:52] dpm: go to Privacy options->Sender filters [14:52] barry, that's exactly what I want, I just want to whitelist those addresses on the ubuntu-translators list [14:53] dpm: then scroll down to accept_these_nonmembers [14:53] dpm: enter this on one line: [14:53] dpm: er, let's make that two lines: [14:53] .*@ubuntu.com [14:53] .*@canonical.com [14:53] shoot, wait [14:53] it's: [14:53] ^.*@ubuntu.com [14:53] ^.*@canonical.com [14:54] (the leading ^ tells mm that what follows is a python regexp) [14:54] slangasek: howdy! I was wondering if MAAS was gonna be accepted into -proposed for verification [14:54] barry, ah, before there was: [14:54] ^.@ubuntu.com [14:54] ^.@canonical.com [14:55] that might be why it didn't work [14:55] ah someone forgot the * [14:55] dpm: unless x@canonical.com posted :) [14:55] yeah [14:55] :-) [14:55] ^.+@canonical.com might also work better [14:56] ok, I've used that, then [14:57] cool [14:57] thanks barry and dobey! === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle === didrocks1 is now known as didrocks === jbicha_ is now known as jbicha [15:42] rbasak, heh, nice, first use of the powerpc cross compiler =) [15:44] pitti: if you're still around, there's a mesa build I did with one revert http://koti.kapsi.fi/~tjaalton/mesa [15:44] xnox: i've got a few bugs needing a little attention could i paste them for you? [15:44] pitti: looks like it's working just as fine on snb as with the 19 upstream patches the previous one had.. [15:45] stokachu: ok, paste away here. And we can discuss them =) [15:45] xnox: cool thanks [15:46] bug 1013798, bug 857983, bug 1068399, bug 1158465, bug 859600, bug 1069570 [15:46] bug 1013798 in libgcrypt11 (Ubuntu Raring) "Blink SIP client segfaults with libgcrypt11 1.5.0-3ubuntu0.1" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1013798 [15:46] bug 857983 in gpointing-device-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "The Pointing Devices menu item is missing after upgrading to Oneiric" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857983 [15:46] bug 1068399 in Precise Backports "Please backport parallel 20120422-1 (universe) from raring" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1068399 [15:46] bug 1158465 in walinuxagent (Ubuntu Quantal) "[SRU] update Windows Azure WALinuxAgent to 1.3.2 (12.04.2, 12.10 and 13.04)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1158465 [15:46] bug 859600 in gnome-keyring (Ubuntu Precise) "Please convert gnome-keyring to multiarch" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/859600 [15:47] and bug 1027086 [15:47] bug 1027086 in vino (Ubuntu Precise) "incorrect schema setting used for authentication-methods in vino server" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027086 [15:47] bug 1069570 [15:47] bug 1069570 in MAAS "1 MAC Address, two IPs - DNS is "out of sync" with DHCP leases databases, I think..." [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1069570 [15:51] stokachu: about azure - upload utlemming's branches? [15:51] xnox: yea [15:51] xnox: i didnt think there was anything formal really for azure stuff [15:52] im going to have those guys apply for per package rights on azure in the near future [15:52] stokachu: as in, there are no debdiff nor merge proposals => thus nothing to sponsor =) [15:52] * xnox skipped though it during piloting. [15:53] stokachu: for libgcrypt "bug" only python-gnutls is needed and libgcrypt says the same across the board? [15:53] xnox: yea we should remove the libgcrypt being affected [15:54] stokachu: that's fine, I'll mark it invalid then. [15:54] cool, that one needs to be uploaded as well [16:07] micahg: are you still actively handling backports? [16:25] tjaalton: ah, that somehow removes gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad, but not a biggie [16:26] tjaalton: testing now [16:29] tjaalton: it seems a tad faster than the PPA version, and a tad slower than the raring version [16:31] good night everyone [16:33] xnox: bug 778627 has verification-done how longs does it usually take for it to make it into -updates? [16:33] bug 778627 in bash (Fedora) "In natty, bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778627 [16:34] pitti, 'night [16:41] stokachu: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html so stuff that is green and still in proposed should be promoted to -updates, but it's manual step done by SRU team. [16:42] ok [16:42] chrisccoulson: ping [16:43] chrisccoulson: bug 1165408 is annoying but an easy fix [16:43] bug 1165408 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Raring - Kubuntu-firefox-installer blocks the install of Firefox" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1165408 [16:48] bdmurray: do you have some time to push bug 778627 [16:48] bug 778627 in bash (Fedora) "bash completion now quotes shell variable references rather than expanding them" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/778627 [16:50] bdmurray: and bug 1162876 :) [16:50] bug 1162876 in apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu Precise) "apt-cacher-ng data corruption with HTTP headers" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1162876 [16:52]