[00:05] <darkxst> semente, I think you were hitting this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1158750
[00:12] <jbicha> darkxst: by the way, gnome-control-center 3.8 doesn't do locales right for Ubuntu either
[00:19] <darkxst> jbicha, is it stripping off the ".utf-8" suffix also?
[00:23] <jbicha> I don't remember exactly
[00:56] <delac> does 13.04 support the "downward pressure" tray?
[01:00] <darkxst> delac, no, that requires the new Xserver
[01:01] <delac> darkxst: how new?
[01:01] <darkxst> Xorg 1.14, which is not in raring
[01:02] <delac> darkxst: too bad. thanks anyway
[01:07] <delac> also, seems that nautilus (3.8) search defaults to Reversed (view) Order. It can be changed during search, but the setting won't stick. Is this a (reported) bug?
[01:11] <darkxst> delac, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692663
[01:18] <delac> darkxst: seems I made the same mistake as reporter of Bug 688772, referenced in the first message. But that seems to have been taken care of (and hopefully soon in repos). Thanks.
[01:23] <delac> wrong bug, ubot5
[11:58] <ichat> hi i installed  ububuntu gnome yesterday,    but im having a few questions...
[11:58] <ichat> 1... the lockscreen acts as if my screen is a touch interface...  can i change it.. so that its more mouse driving...
[11:58] <roasted> ichat: you can either drag up or simply hit enter, iirc.
[11:58] <roasted> I have the Gnome3 PPA on 13.04, but on mine I just hit enter and it slides up on its own. Then I type pw to log in.
[11:59] <ichat> roasted:  a thanks i didn know this
[11:59] <roasted> :)
[12:02] <ichat> sinse ubuntu is going QT im not verry into main unity...  i often noticed that i could have a snapier desktop with  gtk apps than with qt..  and in truth,   i got used to it and im not about to change just because mark tells me to...
[13:29] <roasted> ichat: I have to admit, KDE 4.10 has brought some significant speed improvements to the table. Between GTK and Qt there's hardly a difference anymore (imho).
[13:52] <ichat> btw, doesnt gnome ship chromium instead of firefox...   i have to say that  since firefox 3.5 i find it less and less worthy of the name browser...  on windows i would even state that  IE is getting better at it than FF.    i know that some   chrome versions have disappointed me as well...  ...  firefox at times just looks as if its dying out from its own success
[13:56] <camelinahat> ichat, Ubuntu Gnome ships with Firefix, Gnome itself comes with Epiphany (aka Gnome Web), which is based off of Webkit (until recently similar to Chromium)
[14:31] <semente> darkxst: reading the comments, looks like the problem is that. thank you! gonna try later.. thanks
[15:18] <AnAnt> Hello
[15:18] <AnAnt> can someone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1154486 ?
[16:03] <ichat> camelinahat:  - is it safe to remove  epiphani...   from you system i prefer having just 1 browser installed
[16:28] <jbicha> ichat: yes you can remove epiphany-browser
[17:02] <camelinahat> Short of disabling the wireless card and re-enabling it, is there any way to force the wireless access point list to refresh? (in gnome network manager)
[17:15] <atrus`> camelinahat: running 'sudo iwlist scan' might trigger it
[17:16] <atrus`> i thought in the past i'd seen that trigger some event that network-manager would pick up
[17:19] <camelinahat> atrus`, Yeah I had tried that, and while iwlist picks up the AP's unfortunately the gnome-network-manager still doesn't refresh to show them
[18:32] <AnAnt> can someone look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1154486 ?
[18:39] <jbicha> darkxst: you saw xnox's review of your system-config-printer merge proposal?
[19:16] <AnAnt> hmm
[20:42] <darkxst> jbicha, yes, will redo it against the right package in a bit
[21:35] <jbicha> darkxst: hey, sorry for the run-around, but I think we should have gnome-control-center depend or recommend on s-c-p-g instead
[21:38] <darkxst> jbicha, except doing it this way, its the same as ubuntu and other flavours
[21:38] <jbicha> I didn't realize that gnome wasn't fully replacing s-c-p
[21:40] <jbicha> since the "add printer" button doesn't work otherwise, I think we should fix the dependency problem at the source
[21:41] <darkxst> jbicha, ok
[21:41] <darkxst> btw are you seeing black backgroud in g-c-c sometimes?
[21:43] <darkxst> seems to happen only when launching via overview though. is fine when run from terminal
[22:07] <jbicha> darkxst: no, but I usually don't run the staging ppa as I like my computer working :)
[22:07] <jbicha> I usually run Settings from the terminal or from the user menu
[22:33] <darkxst> jbicha, launching it from anywhere in g-s causes the black background
[22:36] <darkxst> although works in a fresh install, but not on the systems that were upgraded from Q
[22:40] <jbicha> that's suspicious, there shouldn't be that noticable of a difference between upgrades and a clean install
[22:45] <darkxst> its not just g-c-c actually, d-conf editor has a black pane too
[22:53] <jbicha> oh, reminds me of https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=682395 but that bug shouldn't affect raring...
[22:56] <darkxst> can't reproduce with 'GTK_IM_MODULE=xim gnome-control-center'