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rbasak#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:00
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rbasak#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:00
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rbasakACTION: ALL, please look to hijack a dep-8 test from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow (Daviey, 16:24:44)16:00
Davieyo/16:00
arosaleshello16:00
Davieyjamespage: can you summarise that BP?16:00
Davieyshould it be postponed in all?16:01
smosero/16:01
jamespageOK - so I went through my WI's and postponed stuff I won't get to in the next 3 days16:01
jamespageas the is my time window16:01
jamespageadam_g, roaksoax, zul, rbasak all have WI's as well - please can you review and POSTPONE or implement prior to 13.04 pls16:02
zulack16:02
hallyn(i actually do to, which i'll postpone)16:02
rbasakOK16:02
rbasakACTION: arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU (Daviey, 16:28:55)16:03
jamespagehallyn, sorry - missed you off the list16:03
arosalesrbasak, I still need to catch up with norvald16:03
rbasak#action (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU16:04
meetingologyACTION: (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU16:04
rbasakACTION: zul to review complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu NEW (Daviey, 16:30:30)16:04
rbasak(thanks arosales)16:04
zuldid that i have my notes somewhere16:04
zulwhere should I send my notes16:05
arosalesrbasak, thanks16:05
Davieyzul: notes?16:05
rbasakHow about the Ubuntu server list? Would that be suitable?16:05
rbasakAnd where do we go from here for that?16:05
zulDaviey:  about the percona review16:05
zulrbasak:  sure16:05
rbasakThanks zul!16:05
DavieyAh, ubuntu-server list sounds GREAT16:05
rbasak#action zul to send notes from review of  complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu to the ubuntu-server list16:06
meetingologyACTION: zul to send notes from review of  complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu to the ubuntu-server list16:06
rbasakACTION: Smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring. (Daviey, 16:34:33)16:06
smosernot done. will do today.16:06
rbasakOK. Thanks smoser!16:06
rbasak#action (carried forward) smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.16:06
meetingologyACTION: (carried forward) smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.16:06
rbasakACTION: Daviey to follow up on bugs bug 1160373 and bug 1160378 (Daviey, 16:40:14)16:07
ubottubug 1160373 in xen (Ubuntu) "Support for APIC Virtualization in Xen" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116037316:07
ubottubug 1160378 in xen (Ubuntu) "TSC offset support for Xen" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116037816:07
DavieyFix released (thanks smb, zul)16:07
rbasakGreat. Thanks!16:07
rbasak#topic Raring Development16:07
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rbasak#subtopic Release Tracking Bug Tasks16:07
rbasak#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server16:08
rbasakjamespage: would you like to go through these, please?16:08
jamespageok16:08
jamespagebug 115791816:08
ubottubug 1157918 in horizon (Ubuntu Raring) "Network selection tab when starting instance renders incorrectly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115791816:08
jamespageassigned to me - the ubuntu theme for horizon is still broken - I need to hassle huwshimi16:09
jamespageroaksoax, bug 1064527 and bug 107346316:09
ubottubug 1064527 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "detect_ipmi needs improvement. detects non-existant device in nested kvm" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/106452716:09
ubottubug 1073463 in maas (Ubuntu Raring) "User-configurable files are not installed in /etc" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/107346316:09
jamespageroaksoax, likely to be fixed for raring?16:09
jamespagerbasak has bug 116213916:09
ubottubug 1162139 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Raring) "mysql-5.5 still built using GCC-4.4, should be built with the default GCC" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116213916:09
rbasakI'm made some progress but am still looking at it. None of the possible ways forward look easy16:10
jamespagerbasak, ack16:10
jamespageand bug 116376816:10
ubottubug 1163768 in ntp (Ubuntu Raring) "ntp ftbfs in raring" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/116376816:10
rbasakI may have to come back and say that a raring target is unrealistic16:10
rbasakI Looks like the ntp ftbfs is fixed16:11
roaksoaxjamespage: detect_ipmi I have a fix for it...16:11
jamespageindeed - closing bug16:11
roaksoaxjamespage: the latter, I talked to bigjools and needs upstream support to be able to do that as it is not just packaging16:12
rbasakThanks!16:12
jamespageand finally bug 112187416:12
ubottubug 1121874 in mysql-5.5 (Ubuntu Raring) "MySQL launch fails silently if < 4MB of disk space is available" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/112187416:12
rbasakThis is relatively trivial, assuming that we're happy with the log going to /var/log/upstart, since that's the only place we can log to from an upstart job that I could see (am I correct)?16:12
jamespagerbasak, sounds good16:12
rbasakIf so, I'll fix with the bigger mysql bug fix, or just on its own if I don't get that done16:12
rbasak#subtopic Blueprints16:13
rbasak#link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html16:13
jamespagesweet16:13
jamespageroaksoax, OK - defer the config files one for raring I suggest16:13
rbasakIt looks like a lot of outstanding WIs need to be marked postponed?16:13
roaksoaxjamespage: indeed16:14
rbasakjamespage: are there any blueprints you'd like to go through?16:14
jamespagelooking16:15
jamespagenope16:16
rbasakOK. Thanks for going through them and the bugs!16:16
rbasak#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:17
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jamespageas you state postpone anything that ain't going to happen in the next few days16:17
jamespageopenstack design summit in portland next week16:17
jamespageLOADS of people going16:17
Daviey+1!16:17
rbasakAny other events?16:17
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)16:18
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plarshi16:18
rbasakplars: hello! Any updates from you? Or does anyone have any questions for plars?16:18
plarsSo I have a couple of things16:18
plarsmostly on the subject of iso testing16:18
plarsI tried to run the iscsi tests for raring beta16:18
plarsand got the unauth mode to pass on one of them16:18
plarsbut for all the rest, it hung for me on reboot and I was unable to complete the tests16:19
jamespageplars, do you use my helper scripts?16:19
plarsjamespage: yes16:19
jamespagemore than likely bugs then16:19
plarsjamespage: I'm *fairly* certain I'm running them correctly, but couldn't see an easy way to debug anything past "it doesn't boot"16:19
jamespageI'll take a quick run through16:19
plarsI was wondering if I could get some help with that16:19
plarsthanks16:20
plarsOn the subject of MAAS tests:16:20
plarshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1461/info16:20
plarshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1462/info16:20
plarshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1463/info16:20
plarsI was able to run through the first one mostly - though either I was not finding some options in MAAS (possible since I've not used it much before) or the tests need a lot of updating16:20
plarsIs there a MAAS expert on the team that could help review the tests and make sure they are valid for what's currently in raring?16:21
jamespageroaksoax, please could you help plars out this this?16:21
roaksoaxjamespage: definitely, it was on my todo for this week16:21
plarsFinally, there's a whole lot of ec2 tests on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com Can someone  see that those are attempted when we get to the release candidate?16:22
jamespageroaksoax, great16:22
plarsI'd like to get the server stuff as close to 100% covered as possible for the raring release16:22
plarsthis would be the week leading up to April 2516:22
jamespageplars, sure - utlemming normally deals with the ec2 testing16:22
plarsawesome16:22
plarsthat's all I have16:22
rbasakThanks roaksoax and jamespage for helping plars with QA.16:23
utlemmingplars: that tests are running16:23
plarsjamespage: I'll also try the iscsi tests again on todays image, so if you get something different from me then we'll know it must be something on my end16:23
utlemmingplars: they are on the build server jenkins instance16:23
utlemmingplars: but IS has yet to enable pushing them to the public instance16:23
utlemmingplars: I'll get with you on the EC2 testing16:23
plarsutlemming: fair enough16:23
jamespageutlemming, do we need to disable them in the old QA setup?16:23
plarsutlemming: ok, sounds good16:23
rbasakThanks utlemming!16:23
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:24
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smbNothing to report this week (nothing I can remember at least ;-P). Would there be questions?16:24
rbasakThanks smb. Does anyone have any questions?16:24
jamespagesmb, do you know if there are plans16:24
smbthere are many16:24
jamespagesmb, to provide the raring 3.8 kernel on precise16:24
jamespagelike with did with 3.5?16:25
smbjamespage, Yes I afaik that is the plan16:25
jamespagesmb, hmm - OK - I think we need to consider what we do with the important DKMS packages for server16:25
jamespageI'd like to table that we look at upgrading things like openvswitch to the latest releases that support 3.816:26
jamespageI'm concerned that we are going to get into cherry pick hell trying to keep up with kernels every 6 months16:26
jamespagei.e. openvswitch would bump to 1.9.0 in 12.04 for example16:26
smbjamespage, that might be simpler to keep up with than just fixing the build issues. openvswitch might be more affected there than other dkms packages16:27
smbiscsi_target could be another one to look for, though the block layer changes a little slower imo16:28
jamespagesmb, OK - I'll draw up a list an review/propose where we might go next then :-)16:28
smbjamespage, ack16:28
rbasakOK. Thanks smb!16:28
rbasak#topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:28
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jamespagesmb, it needed an update for raring :-)16:28
smbjamespage, slower not not... :-P16:29
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rbasakI have no updates. I'd like to just mention though that my mongodb patch is just a workaround to make it work. I need to look again at actually making it performant - I suspect I destroyed ARM performance in my alignment workaround.16:29
rbasakAny questions for me?16:29
rbasakI guess not.16:30
rbasak#topic Open Discussion16:30
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rbasakI had one question. Are we tracking outstanding merges to make sure that we don't ship (or are at least aware of) packages that are older than Debian?16:30
rbasakI did exim4, and have puppet upload pending review, both of which picked up bugfixes from Debian16:31
jamespageI've not been that hot on it lately16:34
jamespageits hard to track due to the mixture of sources from unstable and experimental16:34
rbasakI wondered if we should keep a list of what Debian version of a package we're happy with for each package16:35
rbasakThen it might be easier to track it, and for a Debian revision we've opted not to merge, we won't be bothered by it.16:36
rbasakAnyway, just a thought for next cycle maybe.16:36
rbasakAny other items for open discussion anyone?16:36
rbasak#topic Announce next meeting date and time16:36
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rbasakThe next meeting will be at Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:00:00 +0000. The chair will be yolanda.16:36
rbasak#endmeeting16:36
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr  9 16:36:50 2013 UTC.16:36
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rbasakThanks everyone!16:36
Davieythanks rbasak16:37
jamespageta rbasak16:37
jsalisbury#startmeeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Apr  9 17:00:39 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
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jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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ppisatinothing to report this week.17:01
ppisati..17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:01
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:01
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:01
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jsalisburyI'll post updates from ogasawara17:02
jsalisbury[LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork17:02
jsalisbury[LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html17:02
jsalisbury|| apw       || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || hardware-r-delta-review                     || 2 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || foundations-r-secure-boot                   || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || foundations-r-aarch64                       || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements || 1 work item ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury|| ckt       || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 6 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury|| ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 3 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || hardware-r-kernel-version-and-flavors       || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || mobile-power-management                     || 3 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury|| ppisati   || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury|| rtg       || hardware-r-delta-review                     || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury|| sforshee  || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisburyThe above summarizes the remaining work items for the 13.04 cycle.  I17:02
jsalisburywill begin assigning some of the ckt phatblet-kernel-maintenance work17:02
jsalisburyitems to specific individuals on the team who are already doing the17:02
jsalisburywork.17:02
jsalisbury..17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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jsalisburyComing off Beta Freeze last week, we have since rebased Raring to the17:03
jsalisburyv3.8.6 upstream stable kernel and uploaded.  With Kernel Freeze in17:03
jsalisbury~2days, we will perform one more upload prior to Kernel Freeze.  All17:03
jsalisburypatches submitted after Kernel Freeze must adhere to our SRU policy.17:03
jsalisburyOnly critical bug fixes for the release will warrant an upload.17:03
jsalisburyImportant upcoming dates:17:03
jsalisbury * Thurs Apr 11 - Kernel Freeze (~2 days)17:03
jsalisbury * Thurs Apr 18 - Final Freeze (~1 week)17:03
jsalisbury * Thurs Apr 25 - Ubuntu 13.04 Final (~2 weeks)17:03
jsalisbury..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)17:03
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sconklin== 2013-04-09 (weekly) ==17:03
sconklinCurrently we have 73 CVEs on our radar, with 5 CVE retired this week.17:03
sconklinSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:03
sconklinOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
sconklin..17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)17:04
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sconklinStatus for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 9):17:04
sconklin  *   Lucid - In Prep; (14 commits)17:04
sconklin  * Precise - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (170 commits)17:04
sconklin  * Quantal - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (225 commits)17:04
sconklinCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
sconklin  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
sconklinFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:04
sconklin  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:04
sconklinFuture stable cadence cycles:17:04
sconklin  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock17:04
sconklin..17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:04
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:05
jsalisbury#endmeeting17:05
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr  9 17:05:00 2013 UTC.17:05
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kamalthanks jsalisbury!17:05
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