[16:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
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[16:00] <rbasak> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:00] <rbasak> ACTION: ALL, please look to hijack a dep-8 test from https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-r-seeded-qa-workflow (Daviey, 16:24:44)
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <arosales> hello
[16:00] <Daviey> jamespage: can you summarise that BP?
[16:01] <Daviey> should it be postponed in all?
[16:01] <smoser> o/
[16:01] <jamespage> OK - so I went through my WI's and postponed stuff I won't get to in the next 3 days
[16:01] <jamespage> as the is my time window
[16:02] <jamespage> adam_g, roaksoax, zul, rbasak all have WI's as well - please can you review and POSTPONE or implement prior to 13.04 pls
[16:02] <zul> ack
[16:02] <hallyn> (i actually do to, which i'll postpone)
[16:02] <rbasak> OK
[16:03] <rbasak> ACTION: arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU (Daviey, 16:28:55)
[16:03] <jamespage> hallyn, sorry - missed you off the list
[16:03] <arosales> rbasak, I still need to catch up with norvald
[16:04] <rbasak> #action (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:04] <meetingology> ACTION: (carried forward) arosales to follow up with Norvald regarding SRU
[16:04] <rbasak> ACTION: zul to review complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu NEW (Daviey, 16:30:30)
[16:04] <rbasak> (thanks arosales)
[16:04] <zul> did that i have my notes somewhere
[16:05] <zul> where should I send my notes
[16:05] <arosales> rbasak, thanks
[16:05] <Daviey> zul: notes?
[16:05] <rbasak> How about the Ubuntu server list? Would that be suitable?
[16:05] <rbasak> And where do we go from here for that?
[16:05] <zul> Daviey:  about the percona review
[16:05] <zul> rbasak:  sure
[16:05] <rbasak> Thanks zul!
[16:05] <Daviey> Ah, ubuntu-server list sounds GREAT
[16:06] <rbasak> #action zul to send notes from review of  complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu to the ubuntu-server list
[16:06] <meetingology> ACTION: zul to send notes from review of  complexity of packaging perconia for Ubuntu to the ubuntu-server list
[16:06] <rbasak> ACTION: Smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring. (Daviey, 16:34:33)
[16:06] <smoser> not done. will do today.
[16:06] <rbasak> OK. Thanks smoser!
[16:06] <rbasak> #action (carried forward) smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.
[16:06] <meetingology> ACTION: (carried forward) smoser to reach out to juju-core and discuss what integration with ubuntu image meta data can be done for Raring.
[16:07] <rbasak> ACTION: Daviey to follow up on bugs bug 1160373 and bug 1160378 (Daviey, 16:40:14)
[16:07] <Daviey> Fix released (thanks smb, zul)
[16:07] <rbasak> Great. Thanks!
[16:07] <rbasak> #topic Raring Development
[16:07] <rbasak> #subtopic Release Tracking Bug Tasks
[16:08] <rbasak> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-r-tracking-bug-tasks.html#server
[16:08] <rbasak> jamespage: would you like to go through these, please?
[16:08] <jamespage> ok
[16:08] <jamespage> bug 1157918
[16:09] <jamespage> assigned to me - the ubuntu theme for horizon is still broken - I need to hassle huwshimi
[16:09] <jamespage> roaksoax, bug 1064527 and bug 1073463
[16:09] <jamespage> roaksoax, likely to be fixed for raring?
[16:09] <jamespage> rbasak has bug 1162139
[16:10] <rbasak> I'm made some progress but am still looking at it. None of the possible ways forward look easy
[16:10] <jamespage> rbasak, ack
[16:10] <jamespage> and bug 1163768
[16:10] <rbasak> I may have to come back and say that a raring target is unrealistic
[16:11] <rbasak> I Looks like the ntp ftbfs is fixed
[16:11] <roaksoax> jamespage: detect_ipmi I have a fix for it...
[16:11] <jamespage> indeed - closing bug
[16:12] <roaksoax> jamespage: the latter, I talked to bigjools and needs upstream support to be able to do that as it is not just packaging
[16:12] <rbasak> Thanks!
[16:12] <jamespage> and finally bug 1121874
[16:12] <rbasak> This is relatively trivial, assuming that we're happy with the log going to /var/log/upstart, since that's the only place we can log to from an upstart job that I could see (am I correct)?
[16:12] <jamespage> rbasak, sounds good
[16:12] <rbasak> If so, I'll fix with the bigger mysql bug fix, or just on its own if I don't get that done
[16:13] <rbasak> #subtopic Blueprints
[16:13] <rbasak> #link http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/group/topic-raring-servercloud-overview.html
[16:13] <jamespage> sweet
[16:13] <jamespage> roaksoax, OK - defer the config files one for raring I suggest
[16:13] <rbasak> It looks like a lot of outstanding WIs need to be marked postponed?
[16:14] <roaksoax> jamespage: indeed
[16:14] <rbasak> jamespage: are there any blueprints you'd like to go through?
[16:15] <jamespage> looking
[16:16] <jamespage> nope
[16:16] <rbasak> OK. Thanks for going through them and the bugs!
[16:17] <rbasak> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:17] <jamespage> as you state postpone anything that ain't going to happen in the next few days
[16:17] <jamespage> openstack design summit in portland next week
[16:17] <jamespage> LOADS of people going
[16:17] <Daviey> +1!
[16:17] <rbasak> Any other events?
[16:18] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (plars)
[16:18] <plars> hi
[16:18] <rbasak> plars: hello! Any updates from you? Or does anyone have any questions for plars?
[16:18] <plars> So I have a couple of things
[16:18] <plars> mostly on the subject of iso testing
[16:18] <plars> I tried to run the iscsi tests for raring beta
[16:18] <plars> and got the unauth mode to pass on one of them
[16:19] <plars> but for all the rest, it hung for me on reboot and I was unable to complete the tests
[16:19] <jamespage> plars, do you use my helper scripts?
[16:19] <plars> jamespage: yes
[16:19] <jamespage> more than likely bugs then
[16:19] <plars> jamespage: I'm *fairly* certain I'm running them correctly, but couldn't see an easy way to debug anything past "it doesn't boot"
[16:19] <jamespage> I'll take a quick run through
[16:19] <plars> I was wondering if I could get some help with that
[16:20] <plars> thanks
[16:20] <plars> On the subject of MAAS tests:
[16:20] <plars> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1461/info
[16:20] <plars> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1462/info
[16:20] <plars> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1463/info
[16:20] <plars> I was able to run through the first one mostly - though either I was not finding some options in MAAS (possible since I've not used it much before) or the tests need a lot of updating
[16:21] <plars> Is there a MAAS expert on the team that could help review the tests and make sure they are valid for what's currently in raring?
[16:21] <jamespage> roaksoax, please could you help plars out this this?
[16:21] <roaksoax> jamespage: definitely, it was on my todo for this week
[16:22] <plars> Finally, there's a whole lot of ec2 tests on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com Can someone  see that those are attempted when we get to the release candidate?
[16:22] <jamespage> roaksoax, great
[16:22] <plars> I'd like to get the server stuff as close to 100% covered as possible for the raring release
[16:22] <plars> this would be the week leading up to April 25
[16:22] <jamespage> plars, sure - utlemming normally deals with the ec2 testing
[16:22] <plars> awesome
[16:22] <plars> that's all I have
[16:23] <rbasak> Thanks roaksoax and jamespage for helping plars with QA.
[16:23] <utlemming> plars: that tests are running
[16:23] <plars> jamespage: I'll also try the iscsi tests again on todays image, so if you get something different from me then we'll know it must be something on my end
[16:23] <utlemming> plars: they are on the build server jenkins instance
[16:23] <utlemming> plars: but IS has yet to enable pushing them to the public instance
[16:23] <utlemming> plars: I'll get with you on the EC2 testing
[16:23] <plars> utlemming: fair enough
[16:23] <jamespage> utlemming, do we need to disable them in the old QA setup?
[16:23] <plars> utlemming: ok, sounds good
[16:23] <rbasak> Thanks utlemming!
[16:24] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:24] <smb> Nothing to report this week (nothing I can remember at least ;-P). Would there be questions?
[16:24] <rbasak> Thanks smb. Does anyone have any questions?
[16:24] <jamespage> smb, do you know if there are plans
[16:24] <smb> there are many
[16:24] <jamespage> smb, to provide the raring 3.8 kernel on precise
[16:25] <jamespage> like with did with 3.5?
[16:25] <smb> jamespage, Yes I afaik that is the plan
[16:25] <jamespage> smb, hmm - OK - I think we need to consider what we do with the important DKMS packages for server
[16:26] <jamespage> I'd like to table that we look at upgrading things like openvswitch to the latest releases that support 3.8
[16:26] <jamespage> I'm concerned that we are going to get into cherry pick hell trying to keep up with kernels every 6 months
[16:26] <jamespage> i.e. openvswitch would bump to 1.9.0 in 12.04 for example
[16:27] <smb> jamespage, that might be simpler to keep up with than just fixing the build issues. openvswitch might be more affected there than other dkms packages
[16:28] <smb> iscsi_target could be another one to look for, though the block layer changes a little slower imo
[16:28] <jamespage> smb, OK - I'll draw up a list an review/propose where we might go next then :-)
[16:28] <smb> jamespage, ack
[16:28] <rbasak> OK. Thanks smb!
[16:28] <rbasak> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:28] <jamespage> smb, it needed an update for raring :-)
[16:29] <smb> jamespage, slower not not... :-P
[16:29]  * jamespage stops hijacking rbasaks session
[16:29] <rbasak> I have no updates. I'd like to just mention though that my mongodb patch is just a workaround to make it work. I need to look again at actually making it performant - I suspect I destroyed ARM performance in my alignment workaround.
[16:29] <rbasak> Any questions for me?
[16:30] <rbasak> I guess not.
[16:30] <rbasak> #topic Open Discussion
[16:30] <rbasak> I had one question. Are we tracking outstanding merges to make sure that we don't ship (or are at least aware of) packages that are older than Debian?
[16:31] <rbasak> I did exim4, and have puppet upload pending review, both of which picked up bugfixes from Debian
[16:34] <jamespage> I've not been that hot on it lately
[16:34] <jamespage> its hard to track due to the mixture of sources from unstable and experimental
[16:35] <rbasak> I wondered if we should keep a list of what Debian version of a package we're happy with for each package
[16:36] <rbasak> Then it might be easier to track it, and for a Debian revision we've opted not to merge, we won't be bothered by it.
[16:36] <rbasak> Anyway, just a thought for next cycle maybe.
[16:36] <rbasak> Any other items for open discussion anyone?
[16:36] <rbasak> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:36] <rbasak> The next meeting will be at Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:00:00 +0000. The chair will be yolanda.
[16:36] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[16:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr  9 16:36:50 2013 UTC.
[16:36] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-09-16.00.moin.txt
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[16:36] <rbasak> Thanks everyone!
[16:37] <Daviey> thanks rbasak
[16:37] <jamespage> ta rbasak
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Apr  9 17:00:39 2013 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/raring
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <bjf> o/
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <cking> \o
[17:00] <kamal> \o
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <sconklin> o/
[17:01] <smb> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <ppisati> nothing to report this week.
[17:01] <ppisati> ..
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> I'll post updates from ogasawara
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-distro-team/+upcomingwork
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-raring/canonical-kernel-distro-team.html
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || apw       || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || hardware-r-delta-review                     || 2 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || foundations-r-secure-boot                   || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || foundations-r-aarch64                       || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || foundations-r-upstart-user-session-enhancements || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || ckt       || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 6 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || ogasawara || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || hardware-r-kernel-version-and-flavors       || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || mobile-power-management                     || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || ppisati   || hardware-r-kernel-config-review             || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || rtg       || hardware-r-delta-review                     || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || sforshee  || foundations-1303-phablet-kernel-maintenance || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> The above summarizes the remaining work items for the 13.04 cycle.  I
[17:02] <jsalisbury> will begin assigning some of the ckt phatblet-kernel-maintenance work
[17:02] <jsalisbury> items to specific individuals on the team who are already doing the
[17:02] <jsalisbury> work.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Raring Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Coming off Beta Freeze last week, we have since rebased Raring to the
[17:03] <jsalisbury> v3.8.6 upstream stable kernel and uploaded.  With Kernel Freeze in
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ~2days, we will perform one more upload prior to Kernel Freeze.  All
[17:03] <jsalisbury> patches submitted after Kernel Freeze must adhere to our SRU policy.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Only critical bug fixes for the release will warrant an upload.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * Thurs Apr 11 - Kernel Freeze (~2 days)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * Thurs Apr 18 - Final Freeze (~1 week)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * Thurs Apr 25 - Ubuntu 13.04 Final (~2 weeks)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin> == 2013-04-09 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 73 CVEs on our radar, with 5 CVE retired this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Quantal/Precise/Oneiric/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:04] <sconklin> Status for the main kernels, until today (Apr. 9):
[17:04] <sconklin>   *   Lucid - In Prep; (14 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin>   * Precise - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (170 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin>   * Quantal - In Prep; 2 upstream releases; (225 commits)
[17:04] <sconklin> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <sconklin>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <sconklin> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <sconklin>   * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <sconklin> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <sconklin>   * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaringRingtail/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <sconklin> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Apr  9 17:05:00 2013 UTC.
[17:05] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-09-17.00.moin.txt
[17:05] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-04-09-17.00.html
[17:05] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury!