| mwhudson | er, morning? | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| chilts | afternoon | 00:13 |
| Atamira | are there any linux users in christchurch? or businesses even that use linux? | 08:44 |
| olly | Atamira: egressive (now part of catalyst) | 08:59 |
| Atamira | ooo | 08:59 |
| olly | or at least they do open source, so it would seem surprising if linux isn't involved | 08:59 |
| Atamira | sweet | 08:59 |
| Atamira | do they have a lug in chch? | 08:59 |
| olly | looks like there is (or was) a canterbury lug | 09:01 |
| Atamira | oh cool thanks olly | 09:01 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:16 |
| ajmitch | afternoon | 19:18 |
| ibeardslee | afternoon? where are you atm? | 19:20 |
| ajmitch | the US | 19:22 |
| ojwb | morning | 19:37 |
| lifeless | Atamira: there are linux folk in Christchurch, yes. | 20:26 |
| lifeless | Atamira: the lug seems dead, but there is tvic, and many folk that just do it without getting social | 20:27 |
| snail | lifeless: when i was down there there were a bunch of folks at uni using linux | 20:34 |
| lifeless | I should hope so :) | 20:35 |
| snail | comp sci / physics / astronomy / chemistry | 20:35 |
| snail | are you at uni? | 20:35 |
| lifeless | there's probably 10-15 K folk | 20:35 |
| lifeless | in the christchurch region | 20:35 |
| lifeless | and probably 2K home Linux users. | 20:35 |
| lifeless | snail: me, LOL, no. | 20:36 |
| lifeless | snail: I keep dallying with the idea of going back and getting some paper for the wall | 20:36 |
| snail | i have paper for the wall, i'm just too lazy to hang it | 20:37 |
| lifeless | I dropped out back in 1995 - I started uni at 16, which - hindsight - was too early : I hadn't learnt how to apply myself to anything | 20:38 |
| snail | i have trouble leaving... | 20:38 |
| * ibeardslee did one uni paper, put him off the idea of trying to study information systems after being 'in the business' for a number of years. | 20:39 | |
| ibeardslee | seriously a 200 level paper should be doing something better than teaching visual basic for applications with ms access | 20:41 |
| snail | i don't support anyone else is working with https://tuakiri.ac.nz/ ? | 20:45 |
| chilts | morning | 21:02 |
| hads | The CLUG list is still going | 21:07 |
| lifeless | oh look, Yet Another Federated Login system | 21:10 |
| thumper | morning | 21:14 |
| snail | lifeless: i see your cynicism and raise you one government department, four CRIs and six universities | 21:27 |
| lifeless | snail: Is it at least standards based? | 21:28 |
| lifeless | and not roll-your-own-standard? | 21:28 |
| G | lifeless: hmmmm interesting, kind of in the same category myself, the arguements against doing higher education earlier didn't work at the time | 21:28 |
| snail | lifeless: yep, shibboleth / internet2 based | 21:28 |
| lifeless | snail: well, thats something :) | 21:29 |
| lifeless | G: when nothing has been *hard*, you have no basis for comparison | 21:29 |
| snail | lifeless: until you have to explain to a theology prof why your standard is named after the first recorded incident of ethnic cleansing... | 21:30 |
| lifeless | G: and then the uni curve is steep, so you get so far in - e.g. a couple years, and then bam, its like a phase change. | 21:30 |
| G | should one be worried about the fact that they are still advertising a December '12 outage as a future event | 21:30 |
| snail | G: as it happens i'm having a phone call with them this morning about that every thing (amongst others) | 21:31 |
| G | lifeless: yeah, my problem was the reaction etc was more "Are you insane?" etc, instead of "well if you stay you'll be better of because X, Y, Z" | 21:31 |
| lifeless | G: stay where? at high school? I'd already passed 7th form math and compsci, had no reason to stay | 21:45 |
| mwhudson | mornign | 21:47 |
| G | lifeless: yeah, I'd done 7th form math, but I do kind of wished I just switched schools and did 7th form anyway | 21:47 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: highbank in raring uses linux-image-generic. | 21:48 |
| mwhudson | lifeless: interesting | 21:49 |
| lifeless | mwhudson: saw it go by in #u-d | 21:49 |
| mwhudson | on the subject of education, /me is glad that i avoided (a) getting pushed up a year at any point (b) doing compsci at uni... | 21:49 |
| thumper | lifeless: highbank | 21:53 |
| thumper | ? | 21:53 |
| mwhudson | calxeda arm server thingy | 21:53 |
| mwhudson | i admit i can never remember which codename refers to which bit | 21:54 |
| G | talking of ARM, HP Moonshot looks neat, will be interesting to see the ARM based blades/cartridges/'term' that come out | 22:19 |
| * ibeardslee is waiting to see what sort of real x86/64 'desktop replacement' the 64bit ARM will be able to do. | 22:22 | |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: the desktop is dying, didn't you year? | 22:23 |
| mwhudson | *hear | 22:23 |
| lifeless | I should watch our internal briefing thingy for moonshot | 22:23 |
| lifeless | ENOTIME | 22:23 |
| ojwb | mwhudson: i think it's more that they're trying to kill the desktop... | 22:25 |
| G | "The desktop is dead, long live the desktop?" ;) | 22:25 |
| ibeardslee | The desktop ain't really dying so much as morphing into other devices | 22:26 |
| ibeardslee | for a lot of people the desktop has turning into a laptop being used as a desktop | 22:27 |
| ibeardslee | s/turning/turned/ | 22:27 |
| G | yep - although unless I can find a new laptop that does what I want, I'll be replacing my laptop with a Desktop | 22:27 |
| ibeardslee | and media centres and game consoles are replacing the other functions | 22:27 |
| ibeardslee | G: My Ultralap has replaced my home PC. | 22:28 |
| lifeless | G: what do you want out of a laptop? | 22:28 |
| G | I'd love to find a laptop that *gasp* a) only has a discrete graphics, or b) a descrete graphics device with the actual option to turn the integrated off (i.e. a non-muxless design) | 22:29 |
| lifeless | G: HP probably has something, or failing that Alienware | 22:29 |
| G | hmmmm good point on Alienware | 22:29 |
| lifeless | G: what form factors are ok for you ? | 22:30 |
| G | lifeless: to be honest, anything that isn't too small of a screen (definately no less than 14") | 22:30 |
| lifeless | G: ok, so you want a behemoth | 22:30 |
| G | it's almost always hooked up to external display | 22:30 |
| lifeless | what about http://www8.hp.com/nz/en/products/laptops/product-detail.html?oid=5212912 | 22:34 |
| lifeless | Discrete: AMD Radeon HD 7570M (1 GB GDDR5 dedicated) | 22:34 |
| ibeardslee | HP are good that if you care enough you can get a laptop without the legacy OS | 22:36 |
| G | lifeless: ohhh that looks like something I could live with :) | 22:36 |
| G | lifeless: except that has the Integrated, so the question if it's actually able to disable the Intel chip | 22:37 |
| * ojwb has been slightly underwhelmed with the linux compatibility of his hp laptop | 22:38 | |
| lifeless | G: well, I just started looking ... | 22:38 |
| ojwb | the wireless card only has an out of tree driver which crashes the kernel | 22:38 |
| lifeless | ojwb: sadface :( | 22:38 |
| ojwb | it claims to have overheated each time it reboots too - i think there's some windows thing which must reset something to stop that | 22:38 |
| lifeless | ojwb: My 9470m is pretty much perfect, compat wise. | 22:39 |
| ojwb | it does run hot too, but it hasn't overheated every time | 22:39 |
| ojwb | oddly I discovered the wife of a friend in the UK has a seemingly identical model, but with a different built in wireless which works | 22:39 |
| G | lifeless: hmmm, the 8570w might be more me tbh | 22:40 |
| G | it has the nVidia Optimus - which iirc normally comes with the BIOS option to disable | 22:40 |
| mwhudson | G: i didn't think that it was possible to get newer intel mobile chips without the gpu in them... | 22:40 |
| ojwb | ibeardslee: i've actually just bought my first desktop since moving to NZ 5 years ago | 22:41 |
| G | mwhudson: yeah, but some you can disable in BIOS (AFAIU) | 22:41 |
| lifeless | G: if I had a discrete chip in this I would check for you | 22:44 |
| G | lifeless: no problem | 22:44 |
| lifeless | G: but HP is pretty sane about allowing customers to do WTF they want with their hardware, assuming it is capable ofit. | 22:44 |
| lifeless | [of course, I have to claim that, working there and all] | 22:44 |
| G | lifeless: yeah, as I understand it, the hardware vendors (i.e. AMD) changed the spec, and went from a user's choice to 'no getting around this' | 22:45 |
| lifeless | well, don't get an AMD chipset :) | 22:46 |
| G | hmmm so it looks like the 'w' models may be want I'm looking for | 22:49 |
| G | but at that price it'd be cheaper to build a basic desktop, and just use a tablet for mobility | 22:53 |
| * ojwb contemplates a small desktop full of helium with a tablet bolted to the side | 22:54 | |
| G | ojwb: you'd need a UPS unit in that configuration | 22:56 |
| ojwb | ah, i have that part covered | 22:56 |
| ojwb | I'll produce the helium by fusing hydrogen, and use the heat generated to power it | 22:57 |
| ojwb | what could possibly go wrong... | 22:57 |
| mwhudson | i don't think they make tokamaks that fit in your pocket yet | 22:57 |
| ibeardslee | a hole bigger than Taupo? | 22:57 |
| mwhudson | or inertial confinement lasers | 22:57 |
| G | ojwb: hmmm, I like that idea | 22:57 |
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