[00:27] hello everyone [00:29] hello wade|shull [00:29] hello RobbyF [00:30] are you playing with the porting side of touch or the programming [00:30] ? [00:30] I just installed 13.04 and QtWebKit is throwing an unknown error [00:30] playing with the live device [00:30] like it actually says - 'Unknown Error' [00:30] ok [00:32] sorry :( [00:32] me too [00:32] killing me [00:32] pretty sure 13.04 isn't nearly as ready [00:32] I'm not getting any wifi module working ect. [00:32] when I tried in 12.10 I had different plugin problems [00:33] maybe I should go back to 12.04 [00:33] haha [00:33] its insane [00:33] sorry, I'm referring to on the device, not desktop [00:34] oh [00:34] well I see something about qtwebkit 13.04 something about deleted [00:34] and I seems to be defeted [00:34] so I will try something [00:35] without a working version of qtcreator and the sdk I can't finish my apps anyway [00:35] so I might as well play with installing different systems [00:35] :) [00:35] lol [00:35] what were you making? [00:36] working on a couple of different apps [00:36] not the core ones [00:36] I am not smart enough for that [00:36] wade: what's te issue? That qtcreator is not opening or that you can't use qtWebkit? [00:36] I was working on a SoundCloud app [00:36] and then a Trello [00:36] QtWebKit itself is throwing an error [00:37] when I run my app inside of QtCreator when I run the app [00:37] and it is the nice handing 'unknown error' [00:37] hahaha [00:37] oh well wiping now and putting on 12.04 [00:37] try sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5-dev libqt5webkit5-qmlwebkitplugin [00:37] ohh I didn't know those [00:38] well [00:38] I did [00:38] sudo apt-get install libqtwebkit* [00:38] I found them with apt-cache search webkit [00:38] and it grabbed those [00:39] I will try again before I wipe it out though [00:39] the command you gave is not for the qt5 [00:39] ok sweet [00:39] would be great if this works :)\ [00:39] booting up right now [00:39] It tries to install qt4 libraries [00:40] ahh it does have both libraries [00:40] I think you should best remove libqtcore4-perl libqtwebkit-qmlwebkitplugin libqtwebkit4-dbg libqtwebkit4-perl libsmokebase3 libsmokeqtcore4-3 libsmokeqtgui4-3 libsmokeqtwebkit4-3 [00:40] that are the ones that tried to install with your command [00:41] normally webkit is already installed [00:41] well strangely when I ran that [00:41] it said the -dev was [00:42] but the -qmlwebkitplugin wasn't [00:42] With be both are [00:42] let me load qtcreator and see what I get now [00:42] You need that one for qtcreator to recoginse them [00:42] this would make my night for sure [00:42] I searcht for this myself a whole day with an other library [00:43] I was also missing the -plugin [00:43] still a fail [00:43] hmm [00:43] oh well [00:43] libqt5webkit5 had an update just minutes ago [00:43] hehehe [00:44] At least last hour [00:44] Are you on the edgers repo or on 13.04? [00:44] 13.04 [00:45] try adding http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu [00:45] and http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper/ubuntu [00:45] to your repo's [00:46] then do a apt-get update [00:46] a apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [00:46] and then a apt-get dist-upgrade [00:46] I already have the ubuntu-sdk [00:46] Then you'll have the latest version of everything needed for sure [00:47] Also the qt5-edgers? [00:47] ubuntu-sdk is adviced in the tutourial but not actually needed anymore thats why I added it. [00:48] btw, if you add it to pastbin, I want to give it a try [00:48] I think that is why I am going to go back to 12.04 [00:48] and start over [00:48] that way I will get edgers [00:48] No, just add the edgers [00:49] it works to on 13.04 [00:49] ok [00:49] I will give it a shot [00:49] everything works better on 13.04 than on 12.10 [00:49] all the dev's are also on 13.04 [00:51] sorry didn't help [00:51] wiping it out [00:51] it's no big deal [00:51] If you just post the qml somewere I will try it for you [00:51] I only made this computer for making apps [00:51] I know the qml is fine [00:51] that part I do know [00:51] Yes, to test the setup [00:52] If if works on my setup [00:52] crap I can't send you all this [00:52] it is a huge app [00:52] see it worked in 12.10 [00:52] then tabs started acting funny [00:52] put it on pastebin [00:52] so I installed 13.04 [00:53] and the tabs act fine but not the WebView [00:53] so now I am going to 12.04 [00:53] I can give you a cut down version I guess hold on [00:53] ok [00:56] You can just past it on pastebin.com without an account. Just something that should work but doesn't with you. [00:57] yeah I editing out like my access code and stuff [00:57] for soundcloud [00:57] offcorse [00:58] http://pastebin.com/kynfF54U [00:58] that is as simple as it gets [00:58] it will work I bet [00:58] but someone I broke it [00:58] I am good at that :) [00:59] Yes it works as it should with me. [00:59] hehehe awesome [00:59] well really that is fine [00:59] that is good [00:59] My setup is 13.04 with the two repos I just told you [01:00] then installed ubuntu-sdk and the two packages I told you earlier [01:00] that should do it [01:01] Have you tried to delete these: libqtcore4-perl libqtwebkit-qmlwebkitplugin libqtwebkit4-dbg libqtwebkit4-perl libsmokebase3 libsmokeqtcore4-3 libsmokeqtgui4-3 libsmokeqtwebkit4-3 [01:01] That are the ones that you installed that weren't necesary [01:02] ok I will work on it [01:02] If you wanted to make a clean install, i'd install 13.04 [01:02] I am semi slow at linux [01:03] ok [01:03] then sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk notepad-qml [01:03] from the website [01:03] ok [01:03] I might do that [01:03] and then sudo apt-get install libqt5webkit5-dev libqt5webkit5-qmlwebkitplugin [01:03] just start over with 13.04 and run the command they say to do for 12.10 [01:03] yes [01:03] thanks labsin I am going to do that [01:04] give me a bit and I will tell you how it goes [01:04] oh and do a apt-get dist-upgrade now and then [01:04] ok [01:04] cause 13.04 is still in Beta [01:04] I will have to write a note for myself [01:04] once it's released it's no longer needed [01:04] well I am only running it for making apps :) [01:05] right now I am chatting with you on a windows machine - I know I know, please don't hate me [01:05] :D [01:05] I have some other things to do [01:05] thanks for all you help [01:05] If you do that and have libqt5webkit5-dev and libqt5webkit5-qmlwebkitplugin installed it should work [01:06] if you are around when I am done I will let you know how it goes [01:06] if you need to find some other things. Usefull commands are apt-file (you need to install this and look online for how to use it) and apt-cache search. [01:07] thanks again [01:07] you're welkom [01:10] It's 3 am here, so I'd better go to sleep. [01:27] just testing.. [01:27] working [01:28] :) thanks [01:32] ok people, but calls and 3g can't only works on nexus... [01:34] does the browser work for anyone? mine is galaxy nexus...the app doesn't even open [01:37] noobix, in my i9100 works, not superlative, but works [01:38] ok [01:42] not sure if related....i've got Ubuntu SDK 0.1~bzr20130204-0ubuntu1~quantal1~test4 installed...I now have an update notification for 0.1.40~quantal1 [01:42] safe to upgrade? [01:48] noobix, almost [01:49] k, almost is good enough I guess...tx [01:56] well labsin I am back to my orginal problem [01:56] so I think I give up === Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee [03:34] Hey, trying to ubuntu phone app tutorial on website, but it does not work. [03:35] I'm using ubuntu 13.04 [03:48] Hello all [03:48] I am looking for word from anyone with a current build on Nexus 7 [03:48] What's new? [03:49] Anyone? [03:50] I am looking for word from anyone with a current build on Nexus 7 [03:57] I am looking for word from anyone with a current build on Nexus 7 [03:57] Aotom: we've seen the question... [03:57] You might have to wait a while longer. [03:58] Have you recently installed a daily? [03:58] thanks for answering [03:58] Nope, I haven't installed yet, I just came from an intro session :) [03:58] And now I'm off to lunch [03:59] Ok well, thanks anyways [03:59] cheers, have a nice lunch [05:09] Thanks :P [05:09] It was pretty good. [07:30] good morning [07:44] Any Touch devs here? [07:44] I asked jounih about packaging for Software Center and he wasn't sure how it would work. [07:45] Are debs going to be usable on Touch? [08:00] icedwater, right now and in the short term at least Touch is plain Ubuntu underneath so packages are deployed as deb [08:00] no idea about long term [08:02] Hmm. Thanks. [08:07] I have two questions I hop someone can help me with. They're general in nature and nowhere to be found VIA Google (as far as I can find). [08:07] Is anyone available? [08:08] don't ask if you can ask, just ask [08:10] Alight...Thanks. 1) Is there an official release schedule chrt for Ubuntu Touch like with the regular desktop release charts? 2) After the developer preview will updates be constantly given ike any other OS or will support be stripped and kept only for Canonical developed devices? [08:10] Thanks. [08:12] adamshumpisxxx: i personally don't know the answer, hope someone else can help you out. the other option, probably more effective, is to ask this question in the mailing list. more eyes will see it [08:13] OK. Can you link me to said mailing list? [08:15] adamshumpisxxx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Contribute#Where_to_discuss [08:16] If anyone has the answer to my above questions you can PM me at the same username on Ubuntu Forums. [08:51] is the 13.04 touch zip working ? [08:52] this page now have a zip file based on 13.04 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130408/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [08:52] sorry: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/20130408/ === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:10] om26er, I don't know the answer, but i'll certainly try installing it and see what happens, and i'll answer you within 30 mins or so [09:11] steve_fi, i am downloading too ;) [09:11] ;D [09:28] boots, but its not as stable as the quantal one om26er [09:28] steve_fi, which device did you try on ? === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [09:39] om26er, Asus Transformer Pad TF101 [09:40] om26er, using quantal from about a week ago is totally stable, albeit some problems with the fonts, but the raring crashed twice in about 5 minutes of use [09:41] my tablet's battery is down, i'll test once i have a bit of charge on it [09:41] om26er, the contacts page seems to be missing for me and the Wifi shows no networks, but I can do it using adb, also when I say crashed, the gui simply reloaded [09:42] om26er, I used the same stock CM10.1 build that I used with quantal last week === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === jishnu7 is now known as jishnu_busy === jishnu_busy is now known as jishnu7|busy === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [11:04] Just completed "About This Phone" design: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AboutThisDevice#Phone [11:06] mpt: should that design not contain Phone Number too? [11:07] davmor2, I haven't been told that phone number needs to be anywhere. If it does, perhaps a "Phone" panel (together with call waiting etc) would be better. === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:08] davmor2, that would be 'About this SIM' (in most cases) ;) [11:09] mpt: Ah fair enough. As long as there is a place for it somewhere that's okay :) [11:10] davmor2, usually looking up the number is supported (or not) strictly through the operator [11:11] I don't know what "supported" or "through" means there :-) [11:12] But like I say, there isn't a place for it until someone tells me. [11:12] brendand: in most phones you find it in the about dialog hence the question [11:12] davmor2, i've never seen that. sometimes it's in contacts === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [11:15] mpt: shouldn't all designs be min or more the same on phone and desktop so that you get approximatly the same view on a really big phone or tablet then on a desktop? [11:16] labsin, no, firstly because the primary input device is different, and secondly because the common screen sizes are very different. [11:16] brendand: every android phone, Settings → About device → Status lists phone number, ios has something similar, on windows phone Setting → Applications → Phone, Blackberry it's in about phone etc etc etc [11:16] mpt: and a tablet? [11:17] davmor2, actually in iOS its in contacts as 'My Number' [11:17] labsin, the same first reason. [11:18] brendand: I'm pretty sure I've seen it in the setting app somewhere too, but that was someone else showing me their phone I've never had one, so I could be wrong :) [11:18] davmor2, brendand: Settings > Phone [11:19] It's even editable. I don't know why. [11:19] mpt: thanks for that [11:20] brendand: now do you see why I asked :) [11:20] davmor2, brendand: Questions like that can be answered by exploring my settings comparison survey. [11:20] mpt, that's really weird. perhaps it's pre-filled somehow [11:20] mpt: is there a list somewhere of all these wiki's [11:21] labsin, yes. :-) [11:22] mpt, i can't view that for some reason - is it public? [11:22] mpt: I just noticed it wasn't there and thought I would ask, I was pretty sure it would of been thought of. But the About page seems to be the right place was all :) === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [11:23] brendand, works for me in an Incognito window. [11:25] mpt, but you created it right? maybe it's a permissions issue? [11:25] mpt, when i enter that specific url i just get redirected to a blank page [11:25] brendand, that's why I tested it in an Incognito window, to rule out permissions issues. [11:26] mpt, you don't get a login page when doing that though? [11:26] Correct. [11:26] mpt: can't open it too [11:27] mpt, i'm forced to login [11:27] odd [11:28] I just unshared and reshared it [11:29] I don't get something with the settings tho. Wasn't it the goal to scale all the apps from a phone layout through bigger screan to a window on the desktop to take full adventage of a convergence device? That's what it stays on the SystemSettings wiki. [11:30] But fi the timeanddate is still just like how it's now. Is that going to change? [11:30] labsin, I said "these settings, and their categories, will be shared across form factors whenever practical". I didn't say the design would be the same. [11:31] ohw [11:31] Sorry, maybe that's a bit unclear [11:31] I was referring to the settings themselves, e.g. which background you choose, not the UI for choosing it [11:31] I see [11:31] If you want to see how a phone settings design would look on a PC, try Gnome 3.8, where (for example) the background chooser is a panel with a giant button. It's ridiculous. [11:32] I do get that fi a horzontal layout is better on the desktop and that there should be less lists etc. [11:32] Or (for example) the Privacy panel scrolls off the bottom of the screen despite having truckloads of empty space. [11:33] mpt: totally right [11:34] Because of the tiny screen, phone designs have shorter labels, and therefore more explanatory captions. They also have more scrolling and more separate screens, and therefore fewer tabs and navigation lists. [11:36] mpt: idd, I hate to keep scrolling with the scroll wheel on a pc [11:36] Right, it's faster than using scrollbar arrows, but still much slower than scrolling on a touchscreen. [11:39] mpt: you'll also have to think about where the phone options would come when you dock the phone. Should some phone options still be accessible? and where would they go :) [11:40] labsin, as in dock in a charger, or dock to a PC? [11:40] as a pc [11:40] true [11:40] Ubuntu for Android is probably a starting point there [11:41] I'll have to wait till 14.04 at least probably. [11:42] * ogra_ would expect phone specific setting panels to show up in the sidestage if in desktop mode [11:45] Hmm, I just tried that Workflowy URL in Epiphany and it gave me a login page too. [11:46] That's annoying. [11:48] mpt: I get the login page on Workflowy [11:53] heya, is there any major difference in functionality between the raring and quantal daily images? [11:53] i.e. is there any functional reasoning behind switching to the raring ones? [11:54] steve_fi, development should happen on the development distro :) [11:54] note that raring will also only be a very temporary thing ... S will become the default dev release [11:55] yeah, I kinda figured that was coming :) [11:56] in quantal nearly all packages came from PPAs ... in raring many are in the archive already ... for S it is expected that all of them come from the archive ... [11:56] ah ok [11:57] same goes for the image builds ... they will slowly migrate over to the generic ubuntu image builders [11:57] (they are currently coming from a specific internal canonical builder) [12:04] does anyone know if the sources in the gallery app in the core/ folder will become part of the sdk (like DataSources etc.) === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === wiliam_ is now known as waa === waa is now known as wiliam === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === _salem is now known as salem_ === jishnu7|busy is now known as jishnu7 [12:45] Hi, can anybody help with this error "no suitable EGLConfig found" ? === jishnu7 is now known as jishnu7|busy [12:53] P3T3: you'll probably have to provide more info on that [12:53] where, with what, while doing what?... [13:03] labsin, I know you need more details, I have problem with HP Touchpad, MWC demo boots, but daily finishes with blackscreen [13:04] my logcat http://pastebin.com/ir3Gdk1K talks about EGLConfig not loaded [13:09] can't help with that. Sorry [13:10] labsin, nevermind ;-) === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [13:20] ARGH !!! [13:20] !? [13:21] sergiusens, do you have any idea where build/envsetup.sh comes from ? [13:21] whoever wrote that should get sent a POSIX shell handbook [13:21] * ogra_ cries [13:23] (/me actually had written something quite different than "sent a POSIX shell handbook" above ... but corrected that sentence since this is a family friendly channel) [13:27] ogra_: so on this galaxy S is there a way I can update the touch version without altering the kernel/drivers that the devs have fixed so nicely? [13:28] you can try ... no guarantees though [13:29] additional to the android bits the hw specific image contains the platform-api and libhybris parts ... if there were updates the ubuntu side needs you can be screwed [13:29] *additionally [13:33] ogra_: so it might be worth me taking my time to do my own port so I can update it on a regular basis then maybe? [13:34] well, you should make sure that the porter of the hw image does regular updates if something in the two bzr branches change [13:34] s [13:34] rsalveti, ! [13:35] ogra_: hey! [13:35] finally on :-) [13:35] rsalveti, do you have any idea where build/envsetup.sh comes from ? this is a massive mess of bashisms and will make it very hard to automate in a POSIX based environment [13:35] is that from us, CM or google ? [13:36] ogra_: I believe from both, but changed by CM [13:36] ogra_: do we need to change that? [13:36] not something we're planning to package or include at the distro [13:36] well, i would prefer to use POSIX indeed , just looking through it ... its 1700+ lines though [13:36] ogra_: not worthy investing your time there [13:37] rsalveti, the android builds use it on the livefs builder [13:37] right [13:37] don't we have bash available there? [13:37] i only did my tests in a terminal yet, doing them automated revealed alll the mess now [13:38] ogra_: right [13:38] i think we even have bash in the chroots, not sure ... else we would have to make livecd-rootfs depend on bash (which is super ugly though) [13:38] well, you can try to change that, but it's a huge work I'd guess, as the script is quite large (and not sure if we also have more than just that at the build system) [13:39] its the only thing we srouce atm [13:39] *source [13:39] right [13:39] and we'd need to get that accepted at CM upstream if possible later on [13:39] ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/phablet-android$ checkbashisms build/envsetup.sh.new 2>&1 |wc -l [13:39] 84 [13:40] i'm down from 600 lines to 84 in 20min of work ... but these were all low hanging fruit [13:40] right [13:40] not sure i want to actually go on here :) [13:40] * ogra_ still ponders [13:41] ogra_: :-) [13:48] ogra_: rsalveti that is what we source, but there are certainly a lot more scripts inside build that are used [13:49] after you lunch and brunch, anybody can make something get sourced [13:49] yeah [13:49] well, thats the point, you cant source it on a non bash env [13:49] s/on/in/ [13:50] * ogra_ votes that hardcoded bash scripts shouldnt use the .sh extension but be .broken instead :P [13:51] sergiusens, so i guess in your jenkins jobs you actually force bash as shell to make that work when autobuilding ? [13:52] ogra_: yes... I just switched to bash on my workstation too since I got tired of mistakenly sourcing with zsh [13:52] well ... [13:55] ogra_: yeah, we could of fixed it, but it was just too much... although it would probably make building a lot faster [13:57] ogra@anubis:~/datengrab/phablet-android$ for file in $(find build/ -name *.sh); do echo "############### $file #################";checkbashisms $file;done 2>&1|wc -l [13:57] 311 [13:57] its about 300 changes ... [13:57] (in the build/ dir) [13:58] not sure there are other bits that get sourced from elsewhere though [13:58] the big majority is in envsetup.sh though [14:02] i doubt it will speed up much ... but it will make it wrk for automation easier and also support other shells === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader === jishnu7|busy is now known as jishnu7|away === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [14:43] bom dia galera [14:44] tentei instalar o ubuntu phone em galaxy x e nao passa mais da tela do google,oq fazer? [14:44] english ? === w00t is now known as feedr === feedr is now known as w00t [14:49] oSoMoN: what's the easiest way to see what all the properties of QtWebKit.experimental are? [14:52] bfiller: I don’t know of any other way than to look at the code [14:52] bfiller: let me find an online reference to it [14:54] bfiller: http://code.metager.de/source/xref/WebKit/Source/WebKit2/UIProcess/API/qt/qquickwebview_p.h#255 [14:54] oSoMoN: thanks! [14:57] I got a brand new Nexus 7 tablet with build JOP40D and phablet-flash -b -l complains about "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device" [15:07] sergiusens: https://code.launchpad.net/~davidhackerdvm/session-manager/add_moto_config_files/+merge/157014 failed at i386 autolanding === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [15:20] bfiller: if you want to checkout the raring build, check http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/using-phablet-tools-to-install-raring-image.html [15:21] tmoenicke: ping, I still have a keyboard bug [15:21] pong [15:21] mhall119: ^ [15:22] tmoenicke: on my app, if there's a clickable widget below the OSK, pressing keys on the OSK will trigger the onClicked on the widget below [15:22] even if there's a Popups.Dialog over it, clicking elsewhere on the dialog doesn't cause the event to fall through, only clicking on the keyboard does [15:25] mhall119: which device is it? [15:25] nexus 7 (grouper) [15:28] hmmm, maybe it's not the keyboard.... [15:29] well now this is weird === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:30] tmoenicke: are you talking about a fix for 1133705 [15:31] pmcgowan: could be related. i have a package with the new keyboard soon which should fix this [15:32] mhall119: ^ [15:32] tmoenicke: I think maybe we can rule out the keyboard for my issue..... [15:32] I'm getting a video of it [15:32] ok [15:32] it's uploading to U1 now, I'll share it once it's there [15:32] tmoenicke: let me know if you have a package for testing [15:32] Hmmm a lot of folks are asking development questions about Qml on #ubuntu-app-devel [15:33] are qml/ubuntu touch dev experts idle there? [15:33] s/are/do/ [15:33] pmcgowan: yep i will [15:33] mhall119: cool [15:33] tmoenicke: tl;dw is that touch events are falling through even my Popups.Dialog below a certain y value on my screen [15:33] which also happened to be under the OSK, which is why I thought it was an OSK bug [15:34] hello [15:35] any one there [15:35] xnox: not too many, I will ping some to join [15:35] pmcgowan: thanks. [15:35] aquarius: U1 is making me grumpy :( [15:36] pmcgowan: it is very low traffic =) [15:36] can any one tell that msi enjoy 10 plus support ubantu or not [15:36] waq: check the touch/devices wiki page [15:38] its not there [15:39] waq: Then it's not currently supported/ no one has ported it yet [15:41] pmcgowan: tmoenicke: can you see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zk-u2hr4MM& ? [15:42] mhall119: it says it is currently unavailable [15:42]