[02:48] <derekv> ggs
[02:48] <derekv> =p wrong chat
[13:19] <rick_h_> ok, I'm going to sound like a google fanboi or whatever, but wtf MS and company giong after android. You can have access to the source/android withuot the google bits, you just don't get access to the google bits.
[13:20] <rick_h_> iOS you don't get access to ANYTHING
[13:20] <brousch> context?
[13:21] <rick_h_> sorry, assumed everyone's been seeing the anti trust complaints brought up in the EU by MS, Nokia, Oracle, etc
[13:21] <rick_h_> http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/04/09/google-microsoft-antitrust/2066403/ for instance
[13:24] <brousch> They are desperate
[13:26] <snap-l> rick_h_: Microsoft is using Google paranoia to try to get some anti-trust shit started.
[13:26] <snap-l> Any port in a storm, and all.
[13:44] <jrwren> if I was ms, I'd be kicking and scratching like that too.
[13:45] <jrwren> EU made them ship a version of their OS without browser, without media player - and for what?
[13:45] <jrwren> to waste time really.
[13:45] <jrwren> and cost court fees and stuff.
[13:45] <rick_h_> so the 'share the pain' idea then?
[13:45] <jrwren> Its pretty arguable that GOOG is even more entrenched in search than MS ever was in desktop computer.
[13:45] <jrwren> yes.
[13:45] <jrwren> share the pain.
[13:45] <brousch> I really can't blame MS for going after Google on mobile
[13:45] <jrwren> The government is crazy - it needs to beat up huge corporations equally.
[13:45] <rick_h_> I think the stats show it's not equal though
[13:46] <jrwren> i blame the EU
[13:46] <rick_h_> MS had over 95% back then if I recall
[13:46] <rick_h_> but yea, EU fail
[13:46] <rick_h_> google share end of '12 67%
[13:48] <snap-l> I do find it strangely satisfying that MS is bitching about OSS though.
[13:48] <rick_h_> MS is still over 90% market share according to wikipedia
[13:48] <snap-l> That's desktop
[13:49] <snap-l> They're nowhere near that in mobile
[13:49] <rick_h_> oh definitely
[13:49] <snap-l> and they're noticing that mobile is the new PC
[13:49] <rick_h_> but I'm comparing MS when they got in trouble with EU vs google's share of search
[13:49] <snap-l> I don't think that's a valid comparison
[13:50] <snap-l> you can switch search engines with a few keystrokes
[13:50] <snap-l> you can't change your OS nearly as easily.
[13:50] <rick_h_> ok, well just addressing jrwren above. :P
[13:50] <rick_h_> " Its pretty arguable that GOOG is even more entrenched in search than MS ever was in desktop computer."
[13:51] <rick_h_> this does seem to be a little bit like MS going after canonical by using it's free OS to go after music purchases, file storage users, etc
[13:56] <jrwren> the case isn't about google phone share, its about google search share.
[13:56] <jrwren> ms is going after canonical?
[13:58] <jrwren> I don't see where MS is bitching about OSS.
[13:58] <jrwren> snap-l: you reading between the lines somehwere?
[14:01] <jrwren> http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste
[15:26] <snap-l> jrwren: There was a mention of Android in that article.
[15:27] <jrwren> android is open source again?
[15:33] <brousch> :P
[16:37] <snap-l> Reminder: MUG Meeting tonight.
[16:38] <rick_h_droid> party
[16:44] <jhansonxi> A funding campaign for a 3D scanner (supports Linux): http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/photon-3d-scanner
[16:44] <greg-g> I'm lazy, are the designs all freely licensed?
[16:45] <jhansonxi> greg-g, are you referring to the scanner?
[16:45] <greg-g> yeppers
[16:47] <jhansonxi> No info about licensing so I think not.  Some of devs have open source experience.
[16:48] <jhansonxi> It's small but big enough for capturing 3D meshes of small models and household items for use in Blender.
[16:51] <jcastro> greg-g: thinking of you!
[16:51] <jcastro> http://i.imgur.com/VDPR0EI.jpg
[16:51] <greg-g> jhansonxi: sounds neat, I just have a policy against funding anything that isn't Freely licensed :)
[16:52] <greg-g> jcastro: you and you shavers, denying your manhood ;)
[16:52] <jcastro> :)
[16:53] <rick_h_> lol
[16:57] <rick_h_> so when we we move to Austin now? At least it should have better food than KC
[16:58] <greg-g> wait, google fiber in Austin now?
[16:58] <rick_h_> "mid-2014"
[16:58] <greg-g> also, KC has pretty good BBQ, not as good as Texas, I admit, though ;)
[16:59] <greg-g> hrmmmmmm, I doubt I can swing that with Carrie :)
[16:59] <rick_h_> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57578651-93/google-fiber-heads-to-austin/
[17:09] <Blazeix> well, if we have to move CHC due to Caribou issues, i suggest moving it to Austin, TX.
[17:09] <rick_h_> hah!
[17:12] <greg-g> hey, we're making changes anyways, just rip the bandaid off and do them all at once!
[17:12] <rick_h_> but it's not portland :P
[17:12]  * rick_h_ hates TX
[17:12] <greg-g> the only good thing in TX is a buddy of mine who moved to Austin recently
[17:13] <brousch> Sounds hot
[17:13] <rick_h_> I do hear Austin is unlines most of TX, but there's the whole heat issue
[17:13] <brousch> Too hot
[17:13] <rick_h_> yep
[17:25] <snap-l> But just think of it: you could saddle up some of the insects and fly to work
[17:25] <snap-l> It'd be like riding a pegasus, except 100x creepier
[17:28] <greg-g> snap-l: you ever tried to suggest music to the somafm djs?
[17:32]  * greg-g loves the heat
[17:33] <snap-l> greg-g: No, I haven't the foggiest how to do so
[17:34] <greg-g> there are emails for the djs listed, snap-l, so I'll just do that, just wondering if you know they are generally receptive/unreceptive (nevermind what their website says)
[17:34] <greg-g> Folk Forward has a really limited set of artists so far, I could send him like 20 names and it'll keep the same feel but be much less annoying (ugh, Ben Howard again?!)
[17:54] <rick_h_> greg-g: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104537541227697934010/posts/ZctvqrYf4sy !!! /me wants!
[17:55] <greg-g> rick_h_: that's awesome
[17:57] <jrwren> rick_h_: hahaha, you are gonna build that, aren't you?
[17:58] <rick_h_> jrwren: I mean come on, bottle of wine, some crackers. Ride bikes down to the park withthe wife. Tell me that doesn't get you badass husband points!
[17:58] <greg-g> haha
[17:58] <greg-g> I normally just use my pannier, but this is sexier
[17:58] <rick_h_> fold out table
[17:58] <brousch> Who can pick one of these up for me? http://blog.djangocircus.com/post/47543083800/django-pony-unchained-hoodies
[17:58] <jrwren> yup.
[17:59] <jcastro> that is awesome
[21:03] <snap-l> Linode just upped the memory on their offerings
[21:03] <snap-l> $20 for 1GB
[21:03] <brousch> nice
[22:49] <snap-l> Howdy.
[22:49] <rick_h_> party party
[22:50] <greg-g> I'm on a tall building roof with lyz (pleia2), it is super nice out here in SF, I'm kind hot in the sun
[22:50]  * rick_h_ looks out into the rainy 40deg day
[22:51] <greg-g> hey, we don't get many nice days here
[23:03] <snap-l> WE're out here at MUG. :)
[23:56] <snap-l> Hello weeds