[02:48] ggs [02:48] =p wrong chat [13:19] ok, I'm going to sound like a google fanboi or whatever, but wtf MS and company giong after android. You can have access to the source/android withuot the google bits, you just don't get access to the google bits. [13:20] iOS you don't get access to ANYTHING [13:20] context? [13:21] sorry, assumed everyone's been seeing the anti trust complaints brought up in the EU by MS, Nokia, Oracle, etc [13:21] http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2013/04/09/google-microsoft-antitrust/2066403/ for instance [13:24] They are desperate [13:26] rick_h_: Microsoft is using Google paranoia to try to get some anti-trust shit started. [13:26] Any port in a storm, and all. [13:44] if I was ms, I'd be kicking and scratching like that too. [13:45] EU made them ship a version of their OS without browser, without media player - and for what? [13:45] to waste time really. [13:45] and cost court fees and stuff. [13:45] so the 'share the pain' idea then? [13:45] Its pretty arguable that GOOG is even more entrenched in search than MS ever was in desktop computer. [13:45] yes. [13:45] share the pain. [13:45] I really can't blame MS for going after Google on mobile [13:45] The government is crazy - it needs to beat up huge corporations equally. [13:45] I think the stats show it's not equal though [13:46] i blame the EU [13:46] MS had over 95% back then if I recall [13:46] but yea, EU fail [13:46] google share end of '12 67% [13:48] I do find it strangely satisfying that MS is bitching about OSS though. [13:48] MS is still over 90% market share according to wikipedia [13:48] That's desktop [13:49] They're nowhere near that in mobile [13:49] oh definitely [13:49] and they're noticing that mobile is the new PC [13:49] but I'm comparing MS when they got in trouble with EU vs google's share of search [13:49] I don't think that's a valid comparison [13:50] you can switch search engines with a few keystrokes [13:50] you can't change your OS nearly as easily. [13:50] ok, well just addressing jrwren above. :P [13:50] " Its pretty arguable that GOOG is even more entrenched in search than MS ever was in desktop computer." [13:51] this does seem to be a little bit like MS going after canonical by using it's free OS to go after music purchases, file storage users, etc [13:56] the case isn't about google phone share, its about google search share. [13:56] ms is going after canonical? [13:58] I don't see where MS is bitching about OSS. [13:58] snap-l: you reading between the lines somehwere? [14:01] http://thejh.net/misc/website-terminal-copy-paste [15:26] jrwren: There was a mention of Android in that article. [15:27] android is open source again? [15:33] :P [16:37] Reminder: MUG Meeting tonight. [16:38] party [16:44] A funding campaign for a 3D scanner (supports Linux): http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/photon-3d-scanner [16:44] I'm lazy, are the designs all freely licensed? [16:45] greg-g, are you referring to the scanner? [16:45] yeppers [16:47] No info about licensing so I think not. Some of devs have open source experience. [16:48] It's small but big enough for capturing 3D meshes of small models and household items for use in Blender. [16:51] greg-g: thinking of you! [16:51] http://i.imgur.com/VDPR0EI.jpg [16:51] jhansonxi: sounds neat, I just have a policy against funding anything that isn't Freely licensed :) [16:52] jcastro: you and you shavers, denying your manhood ;) [16:52] :) [16:53] lol [16:57] so when we we move to Austin now? At least it should have better food than KC [16:58] wait, google fiber in Austin now? [16:58] "mid-2014" [16:58] also, KC has pretty good BBQ, not as good as Texas, I admit, though ;) [16:59] hrmmmmmm, I doubt I can swing that with Carrie :) [16:59] http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57578651-93/google-fiber-heads-to-austin/ [17:09] well, if we have to move CHC due to Caribou issues, i suggest moving it to Austin, TX. [17:09] hah! [17:12] hey, we're making changes anyways, just rip the bandaid off and do them all at once! [17:12] but it's not portland :P [17:12] * rick_h_ hates TX [17:12] the only good thing in TX is a buddy of mine who moved to Austin recently [17:13] Sounds hot [17:13] I do hear Austin is unlines most of TX, but there's the whole heat issue [17:13] Too hot [17:13] yep [17:25] But just think of it: you could saddle up some of the insects and fly to work [17:25] It'd be like riding a pegasus, except 100x creepier [17:28] snap-l: you ever tried to suggest music to the somafm djs? [17:32] * greg-g loves the heat [17:33] greg-g: No, I haven't the foggiest how to do so [17:34] there are emails for the djs listed, snap-l, so I'll just do that, just wondering if you know they are generally receptive/unreceptive (nevermind what their website says) [17:34] Folk Forward has a really limited set of artists so far, I could send him like 20 names and it'll keep the same feel but be much less annoying (ugh, Ben Howard again?!) [17:54] greg-g: https://plus.google.com/u/0/104537541227697934010/posts/ZctvqrYf4sy !!! /me wants! [17:55] rick_h_: that's awesome [17:57] rick_h_: hahaha, you are gonna build that, aren't you? [17:58] jrwren: I mean come on, bottle of wine, some crackers. Ride bikes down to the park withthe wife. Tell me that doesn't get you badass husband points! [17:58] haha [17:58] I normally just use my pannier, but this is sexier [17:58] fold out table [17:58] Who can pick one of these up for me? http://blog.djangocircus.com/post/47543083800/django-pony-unchained-hoodies [17:58] yup. [17:59] that is awesome [21:03] Linode just upped the memory on their offerings [21:03] $20 for 1GB [21:03] nice [22:49] Howdy. [22:49] party party [22:50] I'm on a tall building roof with lyz (pleia2), it is super nice out here in SF, I'm kind hot in the sun [22:50] * rick_h_ looks out into the rainy 40deg day [22:51] hey, we don't get many nice days here [23:03] WE're out here at MUG. :) [23:56] Hello weeds